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exotica-digest         Wednesday, May 20 1998         Volume 02 : Number 112



In This Digest:

(exotica) Elvis Costello on FAS in the Guardian
(exotica) Looking for Shatner & Nimoy videos
(exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?
(exotica) SPACE ROCK KLAUS SCHULZE DIG IT
Re: (exotica) Tretchikoff Styling...
Re: (exotica) Tiki
Re: (exotica) Big and not so big ten inch...records
Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?
(exotica) Frankly speaking
Re: (exotica) Frankly speaking
(exotica) Beach Boys Exotica
(exotica) Sinatra, Exotica, and the Other Elvis
(exotica) Sinatra's last words: ``I'm losing it''
(exotica) Dear Exotica, I didn't ever think I would write you, but...
Re: (exotica) Dear Exotica, I didn't ever think I would write you, but...
Re: (exotica) Dear Exotica, I didn't ever think I would write you, but...
Re: (exotica) Sinatra's last words: ``I'm losing it''
(exotica) 10 inches of joy
(exotica) Barbarella Reissue
Re: (exotica) SPACE ROCK KLAUS SCHULZE DIG IT
(exotica) 2 New CD's you just GOTTA have!
(exotica) 3 Motor Music releases
(exotica) Mr. Lucky Goes Latin
(exotica) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 23:26:55 -0500
(exotica) Re: Mr. Lucky Goes Latin
Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?
Re: (exotica) Dear Exotica, I didn't ever think I would write you, but...
Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?
(exotica) Tretchikoff Styling...
(exotica) Phuture Lounge playlist - 17 May

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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 22:13:41 -0800
From: "mighty recording corp." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Elvis Costello on FAS in the Guardian

Under my skin
Frank Sinatra was the singers' singer. Elvis Costello explains the magic
that will never fade away

My mam tells me that one of my first words was "skin". I was not an
especially precocious child, I couldn't say whole sentences, but I knew
how to request that I've Got You Under My Skin be played on the family
record player. Then again, I might have been listening to that song
since I was born, as both my parents were (and are) great admirers of
Sinatra. When you listen to something so young, it obviously goes in
deep.

Although, as I grew up, it was natural to be caught up and distracted by
the wonderful music of the moment, Sinatra never seemed square or
old-fashioned. As it says on the lapel badge I once found in a junk
shop: 'It's Sinatra's world. We just live in it.' Granted, he wanted
little to do with beat music or rock'n'roll, but remember this: Sinatra
may have occasionally enjoyed clams but, unlike Elvis Presley, he was
never persuaded to sing their praises. When I started earning money, I
invested in some old familiar Sinatra albums and found that they spoke
very clearly about the adult things I was just beginning to understand.

In the last few days I've been thinking about those special recorded
moments, the finesse that lies beyond the popular landmarks of New York,
New York or My Way. Top of any list would have to be I've Got You Under
My Skin - that famous moment when Sinatra re-enters after the solo with
"Don't you know, little fool. . ." For me, this is the greatest single
moment in recorded music.

I think the best tribute one can pay to Sinatra is to remember some of
these special moments. Ask 10 people to pick 10 favourite songs, and
they'll probably all give you different answers. That is also part of
the genius - there was so much to choose from. Some fantastic recordings
ended up as outtakes because his standards were so high. A while ago I
was looking for a really good vocal version of My One And Only Love, and
someone told me there was a Sinatra version. It turned out to be an
absolutely brilliant reading of the song that had been added to a
compilation CD as a bonus. It had been sitting in the vaults for over 40
years because for some reason it didn't fit into the plans at the time.
This version seems to bridge the gap between the forties and the more
world-weary sound of the later years.

It is said that Sinatra went through a short period without success and
in vocal crisis in the early fifties, and recovered in the mid-fifties.
People say his voice was changed by experience, but I also wonder
whether he made a conscious decision to sing lower. The lowest part of
each melody at times almost became a spoken note. It gave him a great
sense of tragedy and intimacy - from that moment people began to feel he
was their friend, that he was singing just for them.

Yet most of this depth of feeling, this sense of tragedy, was coded,
because the lyrics speak largely in romantic conventions. Some of them
would be hackneyed if you read them aloud, but he transformed them into
poetry. The lyrics don't explain the complexity of life, as people now
attempt to: the door closes or it fades to black before things get
really sticky. In Sinatra's versions, it is the music that expresses the
unspoken details.

The best moments occur during the ballads, in the minute decisions he
made. Take the Rodgers and Hart song Dancing On The Ceiling. I imagine
it was written as a whimsical, clipped thirties dance number. He added
one crucial word to the lyric - "all" in "all through the night" - and
he drags it out to give a sense of longing. It's very subtle - one word
transforms a polite, charming song into something so descriptive and
erotic.

Only The Lonely is my favourite album. It contains a revival of an old
Bing Crosby number. Early on, Sinatra must have looked up to Crosby and,
when he developed his adult style, he went back and re-recorded songs
like What's New? He had respect for the past, but the confidence to give
the song a complete new identity.

The albums In The Wee Small Hours, Only The Lonely and No One Cares form
a mighty trilogy. Many of the songs show Sinatra's ability to build up
the drama in a restrained way and then provide a wonderful knock-out
blow in the last eight or 16 bars. A prime example is Goodbye, the
Gordon Jenkins song - it starts so melancholy and restrained, and when
he finally releases that tension it comes as a shock. But it's never
overwrought because he always has it under control.

Many fans will prefer the swinging records, the brashness of the
sixties, the prouder man singing Come Fly With Me. It's not my favourite
period, but you can't help falling for the charm and vitality, as he
throws those words around. He's chasing shadows away, chasing the bad
stuff of life away.

On the last occasion I saw him perform, at the Albert Hall in 1983, he
was being slated for the quality of his voice. But then again, you could
go back to 1957's Live In Seattle recording and hear how he learned to
turn his then rare vocal frailty into an asset in When Your Lover Has
Gone. With even less voice at the Albert Hall, he sang songs like Here's
That Rainy Day and Don't You Worry About Me back-to-back - stoic,
I'll-carry-on songs. He talked his way through three or four of them;
then, just as we were about to give up on him, he unleashed a knockout
The Lady Is A Tramp with all the energy he'd reserved. It was like a
cunning boxer's technique.

A couple of years earlier I was fortunate enough to hear Sinatra in
wonderful voice at the Festival Hall. In the middle of the concert he
typically acknowledged the composers of a song. I found myself holding
my breath as he mentioned Ira Gershwin followed by Van Duke. I then knew
he was going to make a rare performance of I Can't Get Started. You
always hope your favourite singers will sing your favourite songs, but
you resign yourself to hearing the most popular. This was unbelievable
luck.

When I bought the souvenir programme, there was a huge list of every
song he'd ever sung in England, and I found he'd never performed it in
England before. That's when you go peculiar and begin to feel a weird
sense of connection. Sinatra had that ability to make it feel as if a
song was for you, even though you knew that two-thirds of the audience
felt the same.

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

article posted at;
http://reports.guardian.co.uk/articles/1998/5/18/1706.html
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 02:31:39 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Looking for Shatner & Nimoy videos

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I am looking for best possible source copies of the following videos:

- --William Shatner performing "Rocket Man" at 1978 Science Fiction Film
Awards; this is a legendary clip, long circulating among collectors of
weirdness. I have a copy, but it's a grainy, 4th-gen dub. Need better
quality copy.

- --Leonard Nimoy performing any musical number on any TV show; in
particular, I understand he performed on the Mike Douglas show several
times.

Need ASAP. Will pay $$ for copies of above or swap CDs or exotica of
equivalent value.

Please reply directly to me - NOT TO THE LIST
Thanks!

Irwin Chusid
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 00:55:18 -0700
From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?

Bear in mind that I am quite fond of Frank Sinatra, and think he is an
immense and irreplaceable talent. (I am however getting a bit tired of
his ongoing eulogy.) I will furthermore add for the sake of clarity thatI
favor
a wide-range of topics on this list and do not wish to impose any firm
guidelines
upon it. Whatever comes up and is interesting, let's dig into it.  But I
have been
wondering.....

How "exotic" is Ol' Blue Eyes, anyway?

Is Sinatra -talk in keeping with the spirit of an exotica-flavored list?
Isn't Sinatra unexotic in the same way Janis Joplin (With all respect to her
immense talent
and influence) is unexotic. Isn't the word "Unexotic" rather unexotic? One
reflects upon the
recent semantic examination of the term "Exotica."

Not that it is really all that important either way. The death of Frank
Sinatra COULD NOT have gone unnoticed on this list. Whether we devote future
threads to Sinatra or not is of little consequence.  Related or not to the
"spirit" of the list, the discussion is interesting and should be welcome.
It is.  I'd just like to see the idea spun around a bit - just for fun.

Any takers?



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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 01:05:05 -0700
From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) SPACE ROCK KLAUS SCHULZE DIG IT

It's German (or could you tell?) Released in 1980. Has a 23 minute track
called
Synthasy. Other songs are also brutishly long.

That's all I know about this'n. Anyone have the poop on Klaus?

Anyone? Anyone?

1980 BRAIN RECORDS GERMAN RELEASE KLAUS SCHULZE "DIG IT" THIS LP WAS
DIGITALY RECORDED. THIS DISC HAS 4 LONG SONGS INCLUDING THE 23:10 MIN.
SYNTHASY

Any



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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 04:03:46 -0600 (MDT)
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tretchikoff Styling...

As I said in an earlier mailing, these paintings are EVERYWHERE. Just last
night it popped up on EastEnders, the popular British soap, in the vicar's
homeless refuge.

Jill "Mingo-go"
>
>>Dozens of people will be thrilled to know that you can also see it in
>>the background in the models' flat in "Carry On Loving", in its native
>>context and era.
>
>It also pops up in the Peter Cooke/Dudley Moore comedy BEDAZZLED and an
>episode of MONTY PYTHON.



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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 04:05:28 -0600
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki

>in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas....
>
>Another tasty LA location was the evocative Bahooka Ribs &
>        Grog in the San Gabriel Valley town of Rosemead, featuring
>        classic, extraordinary "tiki bar" decor that was little altered
>        for the film.

Bohooka is a pretty amazing tiki joint. I've been there too. If you are
looking for tiki bars, the LA area is full of 'em. Always email Otto at Tiki
News for the latest and greatest finds...

Jill "Mingo-go"



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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 06:11:53 PDT
From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Big and not so big ten inch...records

My copy of "Music For Peace of Mind" (Revel w/ Hoffman)is a 10". Lacking
a cover, though. Anyone got one for sale?


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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 06:16:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?

Is Sinatra exotic?.... in the sense of Martin Denny, Baxter, Peter Thomas,
Yma Sumac, ... no.  But in the sense of Scott Walker, Serge Gainsbourg,
Elvis, etc. yes.

Sinatra was one of those people who was on the verge of kitsch - especially
Las Vegas kitsch - but somehow turned it all around and made it into a fine
art.  I think Dino (just by his attitude) is a much more exotica
personality.  The same goes for Sammy (especially the Candy Man period).

The Sinatra image is exotica, in that he was an image before being a man.
The hard-drinking, swinging, hedonistic, devil-may-care, bar singer.  And
besides he was surrounded by Exotica during his Capital years, no?  Martin
Denny was part of the capital gang (am I correct?), Yma Sumac, etc. -

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 15:00:25 +0100
From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Frankly speaking

The Late Frank Sinatra

There's no doubt that he had talent, excellent pitch and 'poifect diction',
but I don't think he was more than occasionally Exotic.  There have been
several tribute programs on UK TV which have included segments of b/w
film of bobbysoxers waiting Osmondesquely to see him in the 40's, and
it looked like his 'poifect diction' was not their high priority :-)

Now his daughter Nancy, was very often Exotic.....  It's a shame to see
that the passing years can be unkind.

I hope that the gap left by Frank's demise is unfilled.  I shudder to think
that at this moment, Harry Connick Jr may be plotting some sort of
foray into Frank's limelight......

Hugh.

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 07:42:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Frankly speaking

>
>I hope that the gap left by Frank's demise is unfilled.  I shudder to think
>that at this moment, Harry Connick Jr may be plotting some sort of
>foray into Frank's limelight......

I don't think anyone can or will fill Sinatra's shoes.  It is not only
because of his talent, but that he was in the right place at the right
time.  Similar to Elvis & The Beatles. This goes beyond good art or bad
art, or is he or not worthy of his talents - he sits on a place of time
that was extremely culturally important.

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:13:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: "David J. Strauss" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Beach Boys Exotica

You know, I wrote on Brian Wilson's connection to exotica a few months
back for New York Observer. If you have AOL, you can do a search for it.
It's in connection to the Pet Sounds Box Set.

As much as many hate Mike Love,you have to admit that he's a complex and
not uninteresting figure. Ever see the footage of him at the Royal Albert
Hall, deep in his Maharishi period in in robes and long flowing hair and
completely out of his mind? He and Brian were in sympathy concerning the
cultish aspects of California.

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:42:59 PDT
From: "keir keightley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sinatra, Exotica, and the Other Elvis

In the late 70s, I was a huge Elvis Costello fan, and a fan of the new
wave renaissance of pop after the onslaught of album-oriented crock that
was most of the 70s...In NME interviews, in recording "My Funny
Valentine", and especially on an early 80s episode of Late Night with
David Letterman, Elvis Costello sang the praises of Frank Sinatra (Elvis
desperately wanted Frank to record "Kid About It", although I'd say
"Motel Matches", "Riot Act", or "Almost Blue" are more perfect
candidates).  So I had to find out why, why was Elvis, and then Joe
Jackson, and Difford and Tilbrook from Squeeze, etc., why were they all
saying "listen to Frank"?  This led me to Frank, and to crappy old,
non-rock, used records that cost a quarter, and, eventually, to what we
know now to be "exotica" (that almost never costs a quarter, now).

That's one reason Frank's exotic.  I don't need to mention that, as
President of Reprise Records, he hired Les Baxter and lots of other
exotica-pantheon members (isn't _Songs of Couch and Consultation_ on
Reprise?).

If Nancy and Lee singing "Some Velvet Morning" is exotic, then so is
_Frank Sinatra Sings for Only the Lonely_.  Because Lee (never mind
Nancy) wouldn't have been so worried about getting "straight" without
"One for my Baby", and "Angel Eyes", and and and....

Finally, to get back to Nat's "blues" question:  I'm pretty damn sure
that most "real" or "serious" Jazz-with-a-capital-J jazz fans shudder
and puke when they stumble across what we take seriously, what we love,
what we worship as musical genius (I know - I've seen it happen - well,
not the puking part).  But in its time, most of what is now exotica was
part of a bigger picture known as "jazz", mutated and warped and hybrid,
sure;  but every single one of our fave arrangers came out of the big
bands and swing arranging.  Part of the "adultness" that we love about
exotica would have been seen as "jazziness" at the time.  And here's
where the "blues" question comes in:  for white "adults" in the 40s,
50s, and 60s, the "blues" was a part of jazz.  Not the country blues of
Robert Johnson, or its electrified Chicago cousins;  but the 12-bar,
riff-based conventions of swing, that Esquivel and Mancini and everyone
cut their teeth on.  THIS is the "blues" of Sinatra, or Shirley Horn
singing "The Great City", or "Radar Blues" on _Music Out of the Moon_,
or any late-period Cal Tjader vibe-fest.

"The blues", like exotica, is a complex thing...

As someone posted a long time ago, in Vegas the "lounge" was where you
played on the way up or on the way down, and by the time Las Vegas
became Las Vegas, Sinatra was strictly main-room, top of the marquee
material.  He actually owned the lounge at the Sands, but he never
played it.  But he IS lounge.  Maybe he only cut a few tracks with gongs
and boobams - but he IS exotic.

From BossaNovaVille,
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 17:49:14 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Lou Smith)
Subject: (exotica) Sinatra's last words: ``I'm losing it''


     LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Singer Frank Sinatra's last words
were ``I'm losing it,'' according to Daily Variety senior
columnist Army Archerd in a piece to be published Tuesday.
     Archerd, in his daily column, said Sinatra's daughter Nancy
was told this by the nurse tending her father when he was rushed
to Cedars Sinai Medical Center last Thursday night where he died
of a heart attack at age 82.
     The columnist, who interviewed Nancy Sinatra, said she was
at her home watching the final episode of ``Seinfeld'' when she
received word that her father had been rushed to Cedars Sinai.



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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 08:15:40 -0400
From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dear Exotica, I didn't ever think I would write you, but...

I did not wish to comment on this, because I don't have the same feeling
about Sinatra as many do (Talented, yes, legend yes; I just didn't much care
for much of what he sang.  I do not want a truckload of e-mail trying to
convert me on this or Elvis Presley, for that matter).  However, Ella
Fitzgerald died in '96 and I don't recall the same amount of weeping and
wailing from the country.

Sigh.

On a lighter (literally?) note there is at least one album of Sinatra's
which I found for a friend, but it took some doing.  "Great Songs From Great
Britain" (Reprise) was an album that he recorded with Robert Farnon that he
was apparently so dissatisfied with he burned the masters!  Since I am no
judge of Sinatra's material, two questions arise:

1. Can anyone flesh out this story?
2. Did he ever do that with any other albums or records of his?

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 10:13:08 -0700
From: Steve Sando <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Dear Exotica, I didn't ever think I would write you, but...

At 08:15 AM 5/19/98 -0400, Brian Phillips wrote:
>
>I did not wish to comment on this, because I don't have the same feeling
>about Sinatra as many do
(snip)  However, Ella Fitzgerald died in '96 and I don't recall the same
amount of weeping and
>wailing from the country.

Don't agree with you on Sinatra but I've thought the same thing about Ella.
And Sarah Vaughan.
EVen lovely Alice Faye!

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 13:30:39 EDT
From: Rcbrooksod <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Dear Exotica, I didn't ever think I would write you, but...

In a message dated 98-05-19 13:05:02 EDT, Brian Philips wrote:

<< I did not wish to comment on this, because I don't have the same feeling
 about Sinatra as many do (Talented, yes, legend yes; I just didn't much care
 for much of what he sang. >>

At the risk of adding to this (minor) flame.  I liked some of Sinatra's stuff
but most of it, at least to me, was slick packaging.  There are lots of great
singers but few that are musically AND vocally talented.  Take Harry Connick,
Jr.-- Sinatra-like but have you seen him play the piano?????  And keep in mind
I am not a tremendous fan of Connick (now my wife's -- that's another story).
I do appreciate his vast abilities tho.

Again, I don't want to flame too much because that is not my real intention.
It's just that I always saw the Frank as being typical "packaged" big
Hollywood/big Music Business and not necessarly the talent that other
performers/musicians had.

OK, do your worst.

Robert


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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 13:32:25 EDT
From: Rcbrooksod <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sinatra's last words: ``I'm losing it''

In a message dated 98-05-19 12:53:06 EDT, you write:

<< The columnist, who interviewed Nancy Sinatra, said she was
 at her home watching the final episode of ``Seinfeld'' when she
 received word that her father had been rushed to Cedars Sinai.
  >>

Yada, Yada  . . . . .now .  Nada, Nada.

I wonder where she was when Kennedy was shot?

Robert


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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:01:15 +0000
From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 10 inches of joy

And of course the recent Free Design comp ("Bubbles") on Siesta is
also available on double 10-inch vinyl.


Robbie

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:01:15 +0000
From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Barbarella Reissue

Just seen this is available:

> O.S.T - BARBARELLA
> DY31908 Dynovoice LP
> clear red vinyl and comes with a baby poster.

So is this the long awaited *legit* reissue?


Robbie

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 15:36:43 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) SPACE ROCK KLAUS SCHULZE DIG IT

> From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) SPACE ROCK KLAUS SCHULZE DIG IT
>
> It's German (or could you tell?) Released in 1980. Has a 23 minute track
> called Synthasy. Other songs are also brutishly long.
> That's all I know about this'n. Anyone have the poop on Klaus?

He was with Tangerine Dream in their early, early guitar noise/drone days. Went
on solo space missions after that.

I don't know about this album, but I do have his "Picture Music" (Brain 1067)
from 1974. It's all keyboards (Arp synths & Farfisa organ) with a little bit of
drums and pitter patter percussion. Minor key droney stuff, very ambient -- in
that 70's European mode. Each side is one long track. I have no idea what sort
of thing he might have been doing by 1980.

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 15:38:55 -0700
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 2 New CD's you just GOTTA have!

Hello all,

Here are 2 more new CD's that you just gotta have!

LSD, Battle For The Mind=20

CD - $15

This "internationally known speaker" tells us why LSD is a
     greater threat to America than the atomic bomb, in this
     hilarious late-'60s recording.  Also included is W. Cleon
     Skousen's "Instant Insanity Drugs," another ultra-paranoid
     rant from the same era.  Skousen is the author of such "best
     sellers" as "The Naked Communist" and "So You Want to Raise
     a Boy."
2 Insanely rare LP=92s that usually are priced WAY MORE than I care to go
into right now, on 1 CD, this CD in fact, for the un-be-lieve-a-bly LOW
PRICE of 15 measley bucks


CRISWELL "The Legendary Criswell Predicts Your Incredible Future"
    =20
CD - $15

     That spooky guy who rose out of the coffin in "Plan 9 From
     Outer Space" tells us all about the future, with 42 minutes
     of nonsequitur gems like "I predict that we will have found
     out that we are a captive planet, and have moved into the
     powerful orbit of Mars!"  Uh, yeah right pal.
Too, too funny

And the Celebrities at Their Worst Double CD is back in stock in plentifu=
l
amounts for all of you who LOVE to laugh out loud at other people's
neurotic behavior - $18, 2 CD's

Thanks!

Jack




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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 21:37:47 EDT
From: BasicHip <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 3 Motor Music releases

Has anybody heard any of these Motor Music (Germany) releases?  Please
comment, if you have.  I recall an enthusiastic response on "Latin Lounge"

1) Martin Bottcher -- Sound Kaleidoscope

2) Gary McFarland -- Latin Lounge

3) Maurice Pop -- Power Pop

Thank you


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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 22:59:26 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mr. Lucky Goes Latin

Good idea?  Bad idea?  I saw it at a book/record sale.
Brian Phillips
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 21:33:24 -0600
From: "Steven Peterson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 23:26:55 -0500

Has anyone ever heard Arthur Lyman's album, " Yellow Bird "?   It's
supposed to released June 8 on cd.   Any reviews welcome.

Steve
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 22:42:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Mr. Lucky Goes Latin

>Good idea?  Bad idea?  I saw it at a book/record sale.


i absolutely LOVE this record.  kinda quirky, very mancini.  one of my
all-time favorites.

a must have, i say.

 - kini




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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 03:41:11 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?

At 12:55 AM 19/05/98 -0700, Ron Grandia wrote:
>I have been wondering.....
>How "exotic" is Ol' Blue Eyes, anyway?
>Is Sinatra -talk in keeping with the spirit of an exotica-flavored list?

I posted about Sinatra because it was the obvious moment to do so.
But NO, I don't think Sinatra qualifies as "exotica".
IF someone thinks he does, I can see it.  I have Nelson Riddle records in
my exotica section.  There's obviously a connection. I guess I thought of
this list as more properly a LOUNGE music list and Frank is certainly a
lounge singer.
I'd rather hear about Frank here than about Mike Love... although for me
there's an interesting connection seeing as how I grew up hating both of them.
I've been on this list a few months.  A lot of the time people discuss
things that I don't consider "exotica" and it only bothers me when they try
to argue how it IS exotica.  Mike Love ain't exotica.  Mike Love ain't rock
n roll either for that matter. And as much as the Beach Boys were a surf
band and there's a connection between surf and exotica, if someone showed
me their exotica collection and it was a bunch of Beach Boys records, I'd
think they missed the point somewhere.
But then I get a little annoyed when someone shows me a Natalie Cole record
and tells me they like jazz.
All music can be connected to all music.  The basic reason I wouldn't
really want to discuss Frank as exotica is because he was a huge star, at
the centre of show biz and I'm more interested in the fringes.
Frank Sinatra JR, that's another question entirely.
I actually saw an obit where they made a point of saying how Nancy followed
in her father's footsteps but made no mention of Junior.  Poor Junior.

Nat



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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 03:38:41 -0600
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Dear Exotica, I didn't ever think I would write you, but...

At 13:30 19/05/98 EDT, you wrote:
>
>In a message dated 98-05-19 13:05:02 EDT, Brian Philips wrote:
>
><< I did not wish to comment on this, because I don't have the same feeling
> about Sinatra as many do (Talented, yes, legend yes; I just didn't much care
> for much of what he sang. >>
>
>At the risk of adding to this (minor) flame.  I liked some of Sinatra's stuff
>but most of it, at least to me, was slick packaging.  There are lots of great
>singers but few that are musically AND vocally talented.  Take Harry Connick,
>Jr.-- Sinatra-like but have you seen him play the piano?????  And keep in mind
>I am not a tremendous fan of Connick (now my wife's -- that's another story).
>I do appreciate his vast abilities tho.

Yet another exoticat in agreement with this general vibe. He is talented.
Great voice. I like the aura of Frank. The whole Vegas thang. The stories
surrounding him. But do I own his records? No. Musically, he really doesn't
interest me. I usually tell people I like "lounge" music because it is kinda
hard to describe to the average Joe what it is that I like. And Frank is
certainly one of the top lounge lizards - even though he was main circuit
material. But I would certainly not play his records in my set. Again, this
is no flame, just letting the list know that the huge onslaught of Sinatra
postings is somewhat tiresome for a few of us...

Jill "Mingo-go"



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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 03:43:53 -0600
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra?

>I posted about Sinatra because it was the obvious moment to do so.
>But NO, I don't think Sinatra qualifies as "exotica".
>IF someone thinks he does, I can see it.  I have Nelson Riddle records in
>my exotica section.  There's obviously a connection. I guess I thought of
>this list as more properly a LOUNGE music list and Frank is certainly a
>lounge singer.

>I'd rather hear about Frank here than about Mike Love... although for me
>there's an interesting connection seeing as how I grew up hating both of them.
>I've been on this list a few months.  A lot of the time people discuss
>things that I don't consider "exotica" and it only bothers me when they try
>to argue how it IS exotica.  Mike Love ain't exotica.  Mike Love ain't rock
>n roll either for that matter. And as much as the Beach Boys were a surf
>band and there's a connection between surf and exotica, if someone showed
>me their exotica collection and it was a bunch of Beach Boys records, I'd
>think they missed the point somewhere.

OK. OK. A lot of stuff that is not strictly exotica is mentioned on the
list. I would certainly agree with that. And it doesn't really bother me
either. Most of the points made in this full posting I would fully agree
with BUT...

Beach Boys are certainly not a exotica band. Very true. But there are
several tracks of theirs that could be hardly considered anything BUT
exotica. "Diamond Head" could easily be considered an exotica classic. So I
think some discussion on this band, certainly the passing out of the Beach
Boys mailing list addresses, could be considered exotica topical stuff. Also
much of their stuff is kinda weird and certainly with fringe appeal, but it
is not the "surf" stuff that they are generally "known" for. I poo pooed the
Beach Boys for many years until so many bands that I admired kept saying how
brilliant they were so I dug a bit deeper - much like Keir and his Elvis
Costello/Frank story.

Frankly, if someone showed me their exotica collection and they DIDN'T have
a couple Beach Boys records in it, I might think that they had missed the
point somewhere...

It's all subjective, but I think most of the topics posted are of interest
to several people on this list. We're all just pretty passionate about
music, aren't we?

Jill "Mingo-go"



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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 02:59:22 PDT
From: "keir keightley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tretchikoff Styling...

And there's a green woman on the cover of a 1994 Chumbawumba album whose
title escapes me...

From BossaNovaVille,
Keir

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 06:46:52 -0600
From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Phuture Lounge playlist - 17 May

Well, it is the last show of mine until the next time the station is on air.
Took place on SUnday, May 17, Subcity RAdio, Glasgow, 106.2. 3.30-5pm with
hostess DJ Mingo-go. If you have direct questions, please email me.

5TH DIMENSION "It's a Great Life"
THE FREE DESIGN "A Leaf Has Veins"
THE MONKEES "Love is Only Sleeping"
BEATLES "The Word"
BOB CREWE "Smoke (Viper Vapor)"
PETER COOK & DUDLEY MOORE "Bedazzled"
HIGH LLAMAS "Jazzed Carpenter"
A. TROVAIOLI & AF LAVAGNINO "Ku Klux Klan Sequence"
ENNIO MORRICONE "Le Foto Proibite Di Una Signora Per Bene"
PIERO PICCIONI "Mr. Dante Fontana"
ALBERTO BALDAN BEMBO "Ore 24"
JOHNNY DORELLI "Arriva La Bomba"
FRANCE GALL "Avant la Bagarre"
CURTIS MAYFIELD "Give Me Your Love"
HENRY MANCINI "Here's Looking at You, Kid"
LONNIE LISTON SMITH "Expansions"
LOVE UNLIMITED ORCHESTRA "Love's Theme"
21 TROMBONES "The Party"
I BARONETTI "Soul Finger"
FREE DESIGN "Bubbles"
NANCY SINATRA & LEE HAZLEWOOD "Summer Wine"
BURT BACHARACH "Make It Easy on Yourself"
SOPHIA LOREN "De Jour en Jour"
ENNIO MORRICONE "La Donna Gattina"
DO-RE-ME CHILDREN CHOIR "Spooky"
NANCY & LEE "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'"



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