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exotica Digest            Wednesday, 26 June 1996      Volume 02 : Number 005

In this issue:

    Re: LES AND CAPITOLISM
    Re: The Ten Thousand Fingers of Dr. T
    Re: LES AND CAPITOLISM
    Eden Ahbez
    Music For The Future
    The Music The Music !
    Danny Guglielmi
    Where do I find this stuff ?!?!?!?!?!?!
    Re: Eden Ahbez
    Re: Eden Ahbez
    Re: Where do I find this stuff ?!?!?!?!?!?!
    Ken Nordine "Love Words"
    Re: Sweet Smell and Beyond
    Re: Skin Diver Suite
    Re: Sweet Smell and Beyond
    Re: Sweet Smell and Beyond
    Re: Where do I find this stuff ?!?!?!?!?!?!
    Re: Sweet Smell and Beyond
    Re: Where do I find this stuff ?!?!?!?!?!?!
    Re: LES AND CAPITOLISM
    Yma Sumac review (6/24 show)
    Last call for Seven Golden Men
    Re: Danny Guglielmi
    Bas and Enzo

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From: "Laura Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Date: 24 Jun 1996 18:15:39 -0400
Subject: Re: LES AND CAPITOLISM

                      RE>>LES AND CAPITOLISM                       6/24/96

I have QUE MANGO on vinyl...is that a rare one?
[e-mail]

- --------------------------------------
Date: 6/23/96 5:39 AM
To: Laura Taylor
From: [e-mail]
Wait till you read Skip Heller's notes for the Cd reissue of Baxter's "Que
Mango" -- they absolutely rule!  It'll really make you wonder why he didn't
get to do the Capitol comp notes.

Ashley



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From: [e-mail] (Johan Dada Vis)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 19:34:22 +0100
Subject: Re: The Ten Thousand Fingers of Dr. T

i was very disappointed with this soundtrack; i guess it may appeal to
people who saw this film when they were a child, but musically speaking
(compared with "the wizard of oz" for exemple) it is quiet dull. it is
available (on lp only i think) from "www.wfmu.org"

= Johan |)/\|)/\ Vis

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:54:14 -0400
Subject: Re: LES AND CAPITOLISM

It is a hidden treasure of an album that has been sorely neglected and not
sought after (as Skip Heller has noted - possibly due to the the "budget"
feel that has gone along with the 101 Strings albums).  It is in fact one of
the hardest to come by Les Baxter albums around - i've only seen one copy for
sale in 10 years of record shopping!  However I think you'll soon see that
once more people discover this forgotten masterpiece that your vinyl copy
will shoot up in value.

Ashley

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From: [e-mail] (Jack Diamond)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:57:11 +0000
Subject: Eden Ahbez

>From: "D.J. Johnson" <[e-mail]>
>Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:57:49 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: Newbie question
>
>Hiya.  I'm a confessed newbie, so forgive ignorant questions, please.  I
>just got this Eden Ahbez CD called Eden's Island.  What's the scoop on him?
>Where does he stand in the history of this music?  Curious stuff.
>
>Deej

Deej,

I did the review for that release for KFJC(http://www.cygnus.com/kfjc) and
to paraphrase Mickey McGowan from Incredibly Strange Music Book Vol 1;
If Jack Kerouac didn't go to San Francisco and didn't meet Dean Moriarty
BUT INSTEAD went to a tropical island and did what he did with the words he
did them with, strolling around the beaches in a robe and sandals eating
nuts and berries he would have been Eden Ahbez.

This is also the genius who composed and arranged Nature Boy that was
covered by everyone and their brother from Frank Sinatra to Esquivel that
Nat King Cole made into a "trillion seller".

Eden Ahbez is tre' cool schtuff.  Some spoken word over super cool exotic
read real exotic music as opposed to Hollywood exotica which btw I LOVE!!!
and some songs with a small vocal group.
This is really great !  Get it now ;))

Jack



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From: [e-mail] (Jack Diamond)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 19:19:24 +0000
Subject: Music For The Future

>From: [e-mail] (STEFAN KERY)
>Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 01:24:01 +0200 (MET DST)
>Subject: Re: Attileo Mineo-Man in Space with Sounds
>
>Boy did I hear it, it's one of my alltime faves. I also have another LP by

>him: "Music out of Century 21" his wife Toni wrote the music and Vincent
>Lopez conducts. It's not as good as "Man In Space..." but well worth
> owning.
>Great liner notes etc and it's also from the Seattle World Fair. The Mineo
>couple lived in Tacoma, Washington if that's of any interest. Maybe
> someone could find them?

That would be amazing, he might still be alive !
Tacoma Washington you say, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I've got a record on that same Seattle Worlds Fair label with spoken word
by Vincent Price.  He's talking about THE FUTURE with all sorts of soaring
and buzzing electronics going on...yum yum.  Hi Ford !!!
Damn right about that Eden Ahbez bein' a masterpiece ;)))))))
It's on BLUE VINYL.
I can't remember if it's the same record you're talking about Stefan.
I don't think it is.
This is composed and conducted by Alexander Lazlo and it's stamped/signed
on the back cover.  _Very nice_ ;)))))))))

Man in Space with Sounds-Attlieo Mineo-Great shit.

Jack Diamond
[e-mail]
Seller of high end exotica and lounge vinyl



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From: [e-mail] (Jack Diamond)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 19:25:15 +0000
Subject: The Music The Music !

One of the top polyensian restaurants on the continent - Mai Kai (located  at
>3599 North Federal Highway in Fort Lauderdale)
>They are now celebrating 40 years in business (opened in 1956!)...this place
>is well worth a visit...Truly a Tiki Nirvana!

Ashley !

But you didn't mention the music !

Jack



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From: [e-mail] (Jack Diamond)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 19:31:53 +0000
Subject: Danny Guglielmi

>From: "kevin king" <[e-mail]>
>Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:13:42 -0500
>Subject: Danny Guglielmi
>
>Apparently another favorite of Mamie Eisenhower, besides the Three
>Suns, was Danny Guglielmi - or so the quoted letter in the liner
>notes would have you think.  I picked up Adventure In Sound featuring
>Multiple Instrumentation by Danny G. and vocals by Dena (his wife).
>The sound of this is very reminiscent of Les Paul and Mary Ford (a
>slightly sexier Mary Ford), but weirder, spacier.  Has anyone heard
>of this?

Right here Kevin ;)

I love when "they say that".  Multiple Instrumentation.

Danny's main instrument was the violin but you'd never know it.
Very fucked up pop music that we all love.
Mamie Eisenhower was a beatnik let me tell you.  I bet she partied ;)
And Dena on vocals !
A much richer Mary Ford, more in the line of a fatter and richer sound of
Julie London BUT I think it's really the Les Paul angle they were
following, still an original sound imho.

Half the record are instros and the other half are these _very sultry_
vocals with Danny "in the background".
They must be screwing with the fidelity though...isn't there echo and
reverb on that LP ?

Jack
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Jack Diamond)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:01:32 +0000
Subject: Where do I find this stuff ?!?!?!?!?!?!

Hello,

My name's Jack and I sell alot of the music that you hear spoken of
on this mailing list that is not availble on CD and _there is alot_
believe you me !

Many of the records I have for sale are on rec.music.marketplace.vinyl and
have a full desription as to the sounds that lie within the grooves.
You can see what I'm talking about if nothing else ;))

I know the music well becaue I also have a 3 hour radio show every Sunday
morning from 9AM-12Noon on 89.7FM KFJC in Los Altos Hills CA

Many of the people on this mailing list are regular customers of mine such
as johan devis, kevin king, ashley warren.

If you'd like to be on my e-mail mailing list which is the 1st place I send
my lists out to BEFORE they get to Usenet then please drop me a line and
let's talk music...1 of my most favorite things to do ;))))))

I sell in the genres of but not limited to;

Crime/Spy Jazz,Exotica,Outer Space Exotica,Moog,Musique Concrete
Blaxploitation, TV and Film Soundtracks, cartoon music, instro pop guitars
like Easy Project and Sound Gallery & John Barry Seven!, Spoken Word,
Beatnik Poetry, 1950's West Coast Jazz like Gerry Mulliagn and Chet Baker,
Bud Shank, Bob Cooper, Pete Rugolo, Johnny Mandel, Quincy Jones..........
60's pop jazz cha cha mambo organ instro and sooooooo much more !
Esquivel, Les Baxter, Dick Hyman, Sitar, Guitar, Tape manipulations

Drop me some mail thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Jack
[e-mail]

PS  Thank you Lazlo



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From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 22:58:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Eden Ahbez

At 06:57 PM 6/24/96 +0000, you wrote:
>I did the review for that release for KFJC(http://www.cygnus.com/kfjc) and
>to paraphrase Mickey McGowan from Incredibly Strange Music Book Vol 1;
>If Jack Kerouac didn't go to San Francisco and didn't meet Dean Moriarty
>BUT INSTEAD went to a tropical island and did what he did with the words he
>did them with, strolling around the beaches in a robe and sandals eating
>nuts and berries he would have been Eden Ahbez.
>
>This is also the genius who composed and arranged Nature Boy that was
>covered by everyone and their brother from Frank Sinatra to Esquivel that
>Nat King Cole made into a "trillion seller".
>
>Eden Ahbez is tre' cool schtuff.  Some spoken word over super cool exotic
>read real exotic music as opposed to Hollywood exotica which btw I LOVE!!!
>and some songs with a small vocal group.
>This is really great !  Get it now ;))
>
>Jack

Hey Jack, what happened to Eden Ahbez anyway?  Is he still alive?

Bryan


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From: [e-mail] (Erik Gilbert)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 23:37:51 +0000
Subject: Re: Eden Ahbez

>Hey Jack, what happened to Eden Ahbez anyway?  Is he still alive?

if i recall correctly, eden died in a car crash. perhaps in late 94 or
early 95, can't quite remember which.

erik



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From: [e-mail] (Matthew Baron)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 23:05 CDT
Subject: Re: Where do I find this stuff ?!?!?!?!?!?!

YES!  Please put me on your mailing list.

Matt
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Matthew Baron                     | Q: How many Computer Scientists does
 University of Minnesota @ Duluth  |    it take to change a light bulb?
 Email: [e-mail]        |
 URL: http://www.d.umn.edu/~mbaron | A: None.  It's a hardware problem.

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From: [e-mail] (Johan Dada Vis)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 19:35:09 +0100
Subject: Ken Nordine "Love Words"

is Ken Nordine's "Love Words" (on Dot) the same as "The voice of love" (on
Hamilton)?

= Johan |)/\|)/\ Vis

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 01:25:40 -0400
Subject: Re: Sweet Smell and Beyond

It seems odd to mention Jim Hall and Kenny Burrell and not Grant Green, one
of my favorites right alongside those two.

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 01:33:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Skin Diver Suite

Leo Diamond's "Subliminal Sounds" is really great - sort off eerie and
reminds me of "The Versatile Henry Mancini". Unlike that one however,
"sounds" has a great cover which sports a "winkie" image of a blinking eye.
I've seen more than one cover where the eye has fallen off.

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From: Clark Draper <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:12:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Sweet Smell and Beyond

And we all seem to be forgeting Wes Montgomery!

At 01:25 AM 6/25/96 -0400, you wrote:
>It seems odd to mention Jim Hall and Kenny Burrell and not Grant Green, one
>of my favorites right alongside those two.
>
>

*******************
Clark W. Draper III
Federal Funds Infomation for States (FFIS)
Washington, DC
202-624-5382
[e-mail]
*******************


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:36:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Sweet Smell and Beyond

At 01:25 AM 6/25/96 -0400, you wrote:
>It seems odd to mention Jim Hall and Kenny Burrell and not Grant Green, one
>of my favorites right alongside those two.
>

I guess they were speaking more in terms of guitarists who have appeared on
movie soundtracks than guitarists in general.  What film scores did Grant
Green appear on?

Bryan


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From: [e-mail] (alison reid)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:15:43 -0400
Subject: Re: Where do I find this stuff ?!?!?!?!?!?!

Hi Jack,

I'm Teresa and I got your message.  Sounds great.  Also sounds like you
know your stuff.

I'm helping Alison Reid (a producer/director) put together a documentary
film on lounge music and if you have any info for us that you think we
should include, we'd love to know it.  So far (i'm doing the research by
the way), we have talked to pretty much everyone I know of, Yma Sumac,
Esquivel, Denny, Baxter's (affiliates), Del Rubio's, and the list goes on
and on, but we may have excluded someone who you think is cool or obscure.
Even if the musicians or performers are not well-known, we want to talk to
them too!!

Let me know what you think, thanks.

Teresa
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:43:53 -0400
Subject: Re: Sweet Smell and Beyond

Don't know that any of them actually appeared on film soundtracks. I think
we're just off on a tangent.

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From: Darrell Brogdon <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:45:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Where do I find this stuff ?!?!?!?!?!?!

At 12:15 PM 6/25/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Jack,
>
>I'm Teresa and I got your message.  Sounds great.  Also sounds like you
>know your stuff.
>
>I'm helping Alison Reid (a producer/director) put together a documentary
>film on lounge music and if you have any info for us that you think we
>should include, we'd love to know it.  So far (i'm doing the research by
>the way), we have talked to pretty much everyone I know of, Yma Sumac,
>Esquivel, Denny, Baxter's (affiliates), Del Rubio's, and the list goes on
>and on, but we may have excluded someone who you think is cool or obscure.
>Even if the musicians or performers are not well-known, we want to talk to
>them too!!
>
>Let me know what you think, thanks.

Teresa,
I think you intended this message for Jack Diamond, not me.  We corresponded
about the soundtracks from "Seven Golden Men", correct?  I sent you an e-mail
on this subject yesterday.

Darrell Brogdon
<[e-mail]>

DARRELL BROGDON <[e-mail]>


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From: "Laura Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Date: 25 Jun 1996 14:10:34 -0400
Subject: Re: LES AND CAPITOLISM

                      RE>>LES AND CAPITOLISM                       6/25/96

are you refering to QUE MANGO?
you can reply to me at:
[e-mail]
btw, do you live in Florida?  I live in Tampa and am wanting to go to
Lauderdale to see this Tiki restaurant!

- --------------------------------------
Date: 6/24/96 9:31 PM
To: Laura Taylor
From: [e-mail]
It is a hidden treasure of an album that has been sorely neglected and not
sought after (as Skip Heller has noted - possibly due to the the "budget"
feel that has gone along with the 101 Strings albums).  It is in fact one of
the hardest to come by Les Baxter albums around - i've only seen one copy for
sale in 10 years of record shopping!  However I think you'll soon see that
once more people discover this forgotten masterpiece that your vinyl copy
will shoot up in value.

Ashley



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From: [e-mail] (Laurence Roberts RD)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:34:57 -0700
Subject: Yma Sumac review (6/24 show)

I went to see Yma Sumac at the Great American Music Hall in San Francisco
on Monday, June 24.  While I in no way regret attending, the event was far
from perfect.  The audience was big drag on my enjoyment of the event.  Rock
and roll has ruined audiences, who think it's acceptable to be rude, loud,
drunk, foulmouthed, and in general annoying.

The opening act was Steven Kent, a solo digeridoo performer who was quite
good.  It was the first time I've seen a digeridoo played live.  Considering
the events of later in the night, the audience was surprisingly well-behaved.

Yma's band was a six-piece group -- piano, electric guitar, electric bass,
drum set, percussionist, and synth player (playing a cheesy DX7.)  They
started out playing a couple of jazz pieces.  During the second piece,
people started yelling "Yma, Yma" and other comments.  The pianist/bandleader
stood up and scowled.  Someone yelled "you guys are great, but you're not
Miss Sumac."  This seemed to placate the bandleader a bit, but he still
seemed rather flustered, starting and stopping one piece after another,
and glancing towards the stage door in hopes that Yma would appear.
Eventually she did, wearing a yellow dress with green gauzy cape.  The
cleavage went to her waist, and the dress nearly slipped from one of her
shoulders as she walked onstage.

About half of the songs she sang were old songs from her albums -- as
she said "this is a song I recorded two thousand years ago."  The new
songs apparently had English lyrics.  She spent some time between numbers
shuffling through sheet music on top of the piano, and sang the new songs
holding pages of lyrics in her hand.  As she did this one time, the pianist
said "She wrote all these songs herself, words and music."  He added,
"I just arranged them," which got a disapproving look from Yma, and there
was a long pause before she consented to start the song.

Early on, she said that she had been in an automobile accident recently,
and broken her arm, and had also fallen down at home, and damaged ligaments
and tendons in her legs, and was in pain, and that was the shows had
been postponed.  The audience applauded in sympathy.  She later said
that they had travelled that day, and had not had time to rehearse, and
that "tomorrow night will be better, I hope."  The apologies were
repeated at the end of the concert.

She was miked with a clip-on mike on her shoulder.  Perhaps she didn't
realize how much it picked up, since her comments to the band were
broadcast to the audience, and were generally greeted with laughter
from the ruder members.

The band was in general too loud, and occasionally drowned out Yma in
the louder parts.  When the band would play quietly and Yma was audible,
her voice was really breathtaking, and that made it worthwhile.  She can
still hit those high notes, and the "wa-wa-wa-wa" low rumbly stuff always
got a great reaction.  She should really record again.

At one point Yma muttered a comment about the band to the effect of "after
tomorrow night" and a finger drawn across the throat.

There was a bit of conflict with the band.  A couple of times, the pianist
began quietly playing for the next number as the applause died down for
the previous song.  Yma told him to stop, and to not start playing until
she signalled to begin.  After one such incident, she left the stage.
The band played a song on their own, and then she returned.  She left
the stage a couple more times later in the performance.  After one return,
some queen yelled out "Where are your shoes from, Miss Sumac?"  She had
no response except a scowl.  Eventually the pianist said "They're from
France."  The shoes were high heeled, with platforms, and Yma tottered
in them somewhat.  The comment, from a guy who was first in line for
autographs after the show, and apparently thinks he's some sort of fan,
did nothing but add to a tense situation.

Even worse, after the conflict with the bandleader over when to start,
someone said "Piano player, don't be an asshole."  The audience audibly
groaned after this affront to civility.

Perhaps if the audience had been a little quieter and more patient, the
band could have relaxed a bit and given a better performance.  But thanks
to the evils of rock and roll and the VCR, the majority of us in audiences
have to suffer the antics of fools.

Larry-bob
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 21:32:10 -0400
Subject: Last call for Seven Golden Men

In a message dated 96-06-25 13:54:36 EDT, you write:

>Teresa,
>I think you intended this message for Jack Diamond, not me.  We corresponded
>about the soundtracks from "Seven Golden Men", correct?  I sent you an
e-mail
>on this subject yesterday.
>
>Darrell Brogdon
><[e-mail]>

I'm confused.  I picked up a * SEALED * copy of Seven Golden Men the other
day for Teresa.  I have not heard any reply.  Are my messages not getting
through?  A simple "no thanks" is all that is required.  If I don't hear from
you, sorry.





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From: "kevin king" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:08:32 -0500
Subject: Re: Danny Guglielmi

> They must be screwing with the fidelity though...isn't there echo and
> reverb on that LP ?

Lots of it.  It's a very deep hi-fi.
The liner says:
*every instrument consists in toto of bass, guitar, piano and violin.
 Yet, with these four instruments he manages with the aid of
electonic trickery to achieve the  sound at times of a 40 piece
orchestra.... On the whole, this wonderful Adventure In Sound attains
a cohesiveness and sense of intimacy, coupled with a remarkable
know-how of electronic engineering perhaps unrivaled on record.*

Don't know about the 40 piece orch. bit, but there are a lot of odd
sounds on this LP.  Really love this record, wish my copy was in
better shape.


kevin

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From: "Laura Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Date: 26 Jun 1996 11:35:33 -0400
Subject: Bas and Enzo

What is available, either on vinyl or CD, by Bas Sheva?
And, as a collector, I also, like many of you, go for the non-brand names. I
like lousy-lounge singers.  Has anyone ever found anything by an Italian
singer ENZO DI TERRIZI(the spelling of the last name could be wrong, but it's
phonetic from my memory.)  It's just hilarious!  The guy saunters his way
through standards like KILLNG ME SOFTLY (tellin' ma whole-life,
withherword...) and has great wah-wah guitar.  A friend found an album called
SI, SI, SI(an Enzo original), but it was not only Enzo, but two other "Cruise
Ship" singers.  It's hysterical, and actually quite listenable!
Just curious,
Lounge Laura
[e-mail]

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