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dr350-digest         Tuesday, December 7 1999         Volume 01 : Number 215




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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 11:09:06 -0600
From: Trail Rider <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergonomics...

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> ..anyone else feel hunched over standing up on the pegs on the dirt-DR?? The
> seat/bar/pegs seem wrong for standing.. great for sitting.  I want to stand
> more to let my legs soak up the ruts... Iv'e seen Thumpers Goliath Gear bar
> elevators.. it looks ugly... I'm using Renthal Jimmy Button High bars, they
> helped alot.. I'm 6 foot.   Anyone other taller DR riders do any mods???

  I'm also 6 feet with a 32 inch inseam and I also feel hunched over
when standing.  I went with some aluminum bars with the CR high bend.
The ergos are very similiar to my '85 CR125R now.  I feel much more
comfortable standing but I agree that it still feels like it needs
something more.  I don't want to get too radical with changes but I bet
replacing the triple clamp would help.  Unfortunately I don't see any
after-market stuff and I bet that's not going to be a cheap and simple
modification.

- --
Scott Aldrich
'98 Suzuki DR350SE
'85 Honda CR125R
'74 Yamaha DT125A

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 12:14:08 -0800
From: "Bob Ralston" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergonomics...

Guy,

I too am using the Renthal Jimmy Button High Bars and went with the Baja
Products Seat.  Both of the these changes made a big difference.  I still
feel like the pegs are in the wrong place for standing, but with the changed
bars and seat, the transition from sitting to standing is much smoother. Now
if I could just make the bike handle the So Cal desert whoops I would be
pretty happy.

Bob

93 DR350S - FMF PowerCore IV, Airbox Mods, Progressive Springs, Solid Peg
Mounts, IMS Tank + All the street legal stuff removed.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: <[e-mail]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 10:25 AM
Subject: (dr350) DR ergonomics...


> ..anyone else feel hunched over standing up on the pegs on the dirt-DR??
The
> seat/bar/pegs seem wrong for standing.. great for sitting.  I want to
stand
> more to let my legs soak up the ruts... Iv'e seen Thumpers Goliath Gear
bar
> elevators.. it looks ugly... I'm using Renthal Jimmy Button High bars,
they
> helped alot.. I'm 6 foot.   Anyone other taller DR riders do any mods???
>
>
> Guy
>
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 12:22:54 -0800
From: "Jesse Kientz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergonomics...

Hi  Scott, Just a tip that I used, the applied racing clamps have the option
of taller bar mounts that are also offset so that you can move the bars
forward some as well as higher. the only downside is if you get too carried
away your cable's will be too short but you can get longer ones from motion
pro. Another trick that I tried was to install an aftermarket throttle and
single cable.  What a relief! I didnt realize the total difference it made
until I rode another DR TG weekend we were riding up a trail about 3 miles
to the top so on the gas all the way up and I thought my hands were going to
cramp up. We then traded bikes and rode another 40 miles that day and no
more problem this kit I put together goes for  $44.00 and is easy to put on
and you don't have to whittle the grip off.

Regards Jesse
- -----Original Message-----
From: Trail Rider <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Cc: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergonomics...


>
>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> ..anyone else feel hunched over standing up on the pegs on the dirt-DR??
The
>> seat/bar/pegs seem wrong for standing.. great for sitting.  I want to
stand
>> more to let my legs soak up the ruts... Iv'e seen Thumpers Goliath Gear
bar
>> elevators.. it looks ugly... I'm using Renthal Jimmy Button High bars,
they
>> helped alot.. I'm 6 foot.   Anyone other taller DR riders do any mods???
>
>  I'm also 6 feet with a 32 inch inseam and I also feel hunched over
>when standing.  I went with some aluminum bars with the CR high bend.
>The ergos are very similiar to my '85 CR125R now.  I feel much more
>comfortable standing but I agree that it still feels like it needs
>something more.  I don't want to get too radical with changes but I bet
>replacing the triple clamp would help.  Unfortunately I don't see any
>after-market stuff and I bet that's not going to be a cheap and simple
>modification.
>
>--
>Scott Aldrich
>'98 Suzuki DR350SE
>'85 Honda CR125R
>'74 Yamaha DT125A
>
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 12:37:14 -0800
From: "Jesse Kientz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergonomics...

Hi Bob, You ought to try the Kouba links they soften up those ripples
significantly I found that out this Thanksgiving weekend Also you may need a
little stiffer front springs than the progressive. The 43kg/mm spring in the
Race Tech three spring kit seems to correct a lot of problems in most of the
DR's with riders over 180lb's hope this helps.

regards Jesse
http:/kientech.com
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bob Ralston <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
<[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergonomics...


>Guy,
>
>I too am using the Renthal Jimmy Button High Bars and went with the Baja
>Products Seat.  Both of the these changes made a big difference.  I still
>feel like the pegs are in the wrong place for standing, but with the
changed
>bars and seat, the transition from sitting to standing is much smoother.
Now
>if I could just make the bike handle the So Cal desert whoops I would be
>pretty happy.
>
>Bob
>
>93 DR350S - FMF PowerCore IV, Airbox Mods, Progressive Springs, Solid Peg
>Mounts, IMS Tank + All the street legal stuff removed.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <[e-mail]>
>To: <[e-mail]>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 10:25 AM
>Subject: (dr350) DR ergonomics...
>
>
>> ..anyone else feel hunched over standing up on the pegs on the dirt-DR??
>The
>> seat/bar/pegs seem wrong for standing.. great for sitting.  I want to
>stand
>> more to let my legs soak up the ruts... Iv'e seen Thumpers Goliath Gear
>bar
>> elevators.. it looks ugly... I'm using Renthal Jimmy Button High bars,
>they
>> helped alot.. I'm 6 foot.   Anyone other taller DR riders do any mods???
>>
>>
>> Guy
>>
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:38:08 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergonomics...

In a message dated 99-12-07 13:27:16 EST, you write:

<< ..anyone else feel hunched over standing up on the pegs on the dirt-DR??
The
 seat/bar/pegs seem wrong for standing.. great for sitting.  I want to stand
 more to let my legs soak up the ruts... Iv'e seen Thumpers Goliath Gear bar
 elevators.. it looks ugly... I'm using Renthal Jimmy Button High bars, they
 helped alot.. I'm 6 foot.   Anyone other taller DR riders do any mods???
  >>

I am over 6 ft. and have the same problem. I had an old Maico that just
begged you to stand up but the DR is a real "sit down" bike. I have seen some
things that attach to the handlebar mounts that move the bars one inch up and
one inch forward but they were $89 so I will not be getting them right away.
Has anyone tried these? How did they work? Are these the Thumper bar
elevators or another product?

Don Sprinkle
'94 DR

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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 00:11:09 -0000
From: "Andrew Spooner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr350) DR 350 airbox modifications

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The price between the two is somewhat different especially with the =
shipping costs to me in the u.k.=20

I'd also appreciate some advice on the following, apart from being a pig =
to kick when cold (20 mins sometime) my bike runs like a dream until I =
open the throttle fully. It then feels like the bike is being starved. =
I'm worried about changing the settings because other than this the bike =
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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 16:44:33 -0800
From: Wayne Marsula' <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr350) DR ergonomics...

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> ..anyone else feel hunched over standing up on the pegs on the dirt-DR?? The
> seat/bar/pegs seem wrong for standing.. great for sitting.  I want to stand
> more to let my legs soak up the ruts... Iv'e seen Thumpers Goliath Gear bar
> elevators.. it looks ugly... I'm using Renthal Jimmy Button High bars, they
> helped alot.. I'm 6 foot.   Anyone other taller DR riders do any mods???
>
> Guy


Guy,
    I'm 5'11" and I just put some taller bars on that I got at the local
shop. They are about 1.5" taller than stock, and now I can stand
straight up and not have to reach down for the bars. Easy fix.
Wayne Marsula'
Escondido, cA

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 20:06:23 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (dr350) DR ergonomics

Jesse, Don, Bob, Scott, Chris... Thanks for the feedback...  Bob, I don't
think I want a taller seat heighth but I saw tall seat foam is available, Don
yes those are Thumpers 89$ bar elevators,  Jesse, I called Applied Racing
it's 145$ for the taller more forward upper triple clamp... pricey.... is it
worth it to me on these stock damper rod forks??... I'll have to think about
it...  I have thought of cutting the footpegs off and welding them lower by
1/2 ".... shouldn't go too low... I'd like to  try or buy? or design simple
bar risers that bolt in between the bars and the clamp.. just a 1/2 to 3/4 "
and I think standing for a longer period would be possible for me ...

Thanks guys,

Guy

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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:49:05 -0800
From: "Jesse Kientz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr350) DR 350 airbox modifications

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Hi Andrew, I want to thank you again for the long distance call. I will =
come as close as i can to answer your Question. the stock airbox flows =
134.3 cfm with a freshly cleaned airfilter element. It flows about 142 =
cfm with the access door removed and it flows about 145 cfm with the =
airfilter element totally removed and the door off. The vortex airbox =
flows 265cfm with a freshly oiled aifilter element. It is obvious that =
it is superior to the stock airbox. these tests were done on an orfice =
centered flowbench set at 24inches watercolumn . For a look at this test =
pull up my website and the letter from rst racing heads is there to look =
at.  It sounds like your dr needs to be jetted up a little a        jx =
needle and spring and possibly a richer main for the open throttle lag. =
Do you have a aftermarket freeflowing exhaust on your bike? if so it for =
sure is running lean. Get back to me and may be we can get your starting =
and flat topend corrected without much cost to you other than some jets.
Regards Jesse
Http:/kientech.com  (website)

- -----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Spooner <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 4:13 PM
Subject: (dr350) DR 350 airbox modifications


    Can anybody advise me on how much difference their is between a new =
Vortex airbox versus a cut out standard Suzuki airbox with a k+n filter.
   =20
    The price between the two is somewhat different especially with the =
shipping costs to me in the u.k.=20
   =20
    I'd also appreciate some advice on the following, apart from being a =
pig to kick when cold (20 mins sometime) my bike runs like a dream until =
I open the throttle fully. It then feels like the bike is being starved. =
I'm worried about changing the settings because other than this the bike =
runs great.


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flowbench set=20
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flat topend=20
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Jesse</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The price between the two is =
somewhat different=20
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    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd also appreciate some advice on =
the=20
    following, apart from being a pig to kick when cold (20 mins =
sometime) my=20
    bike runs like a dream until I open the throttle fully. It then =
feels=20
    like the bike is being starved. I'm worried about changing the =
settings=20
    because other than this the bike runs great.</FONT></DIV>
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