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dr350-digest        Monday, September 27 1999        Volume 01 : Number 174




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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:24:52 EDT
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Subject: (dr350) DR350 mods

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In a message dated 9/24/99 5:10:21 PM Central Daylight Time,
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<<  have a lot of cohorts who
 can't ride for sh*#, but they sure do have tons of "stuff" on their bikes.
They will never
 get back the cash or all the headaches that they dumped into it either.  >>

 The thing you dont seem to be getting is that many of us love to wrench as
much as ride (or almost).  As for covering up for a lack of riding ability I
would point out that the most highly modified machines on the planet are also
riden by the best rider. If your theory held true the pro riders would be
riding somthing like Yamaha RT180's to prove their ability to handle a piece
of crap.

Just a thought
Mike A.
Nashville


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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 18:03:45 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Heston LaMar)
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Tis true Wayne!  A few simple mods like jetting & airbox hacking are worth the small $$.  The
rest is just fluff or trying to compensate for a lack of skills.  I have a lot of cohorts who
can't ride for sh*#, but they sure do have tons of "stuff" on their bikes.  They will never
get back the cash or all the headaches that they dumped into it either.  Riding, riding and
more riding is how to outrun 90% of your competitors.  If you are not crashing a lot at first,
you aren't pushing yourself hard enough.  Can't wait to hear the feedback from this one ;-)

Heston
94 350SE

Wayne Marsula' wrote:

> Gino,
>         I must agree with you. All you do by "upgrading" a
> stock
> bike is spend money you will never recoup. It is generally
> more cost effective to just buy a larger bike if the smaller
> one doesn't have what you feel you need. Many times you will
> also decrease the reliability as well. There are some mods
> that can be made that should be done, such as a K&N air
> filter. But I think that most of the mods done are just so
> the owners can say, "my bike has all these mods, does
> yours", whether they really need them or not. Learning how
> to ride the bike properly will help them keep up better
> anyway.
> Wayne Marsula'
> Escondido, CA
>         (I know I'll hear lots back on this one, so go
> ahead!)
>
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:39:37 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (dr350) DR350 mods

Heston,

I think the only thing you should expect to hear from this comment is a
loud round of applause.

Dave
(2) 1990 DR350's

Heston LaMar wrote:
>
> Tis true Wayne!  A few simple mods like jetting & airbox hacking are worth the small $$.  The
> rest is just fluff or trying to compensate for a lack of skills.  I have a lot of cohorts who
> can't ride for sh*#, but they sure do have tons of "stuff" on their bikes.  They will never
> get back the cash or all the headaches that they dumped into it either.  Riding, riding and
> more riding is how to outrun 90% of your competitors.  If you are not crashing a lot at first,
> you aren't pushing yourself hard enough.  Can't wait to hear the feedback from this one ;-)
>
> Heston
> 94 350SE

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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:52:15 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (dr350) basic riding skills

Rod, Chuck,

When I was young I subcribed to the popular dirt bike magazines (Dirt
Rider, Dirt Bike, etc...).  They frequently had short "hot to ride"
articles that I found to be most helpful.  Tips like, line yuur bike up
at a right angle when crossing logs, slide far back on the seat when
going down a steep hill, avoid riding in ruts left by other riders, and
so ans so on..... The articles focused on basic skills, that once you
were aware of them, they could be practiced.  I haven't looked at
current magazines, but maybe they have some similar articles.

Dave
(2) 1990 DR350's

Rod K wrote:
>
> Great question! I sure would appreciate an answer as well.
...........................................
> > Where's the best place to learn good off road riding techniques?
> > Chuck Vokac PCB, FL

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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:56:00 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (dr350) Water and hot engine

Pablo,

I have NEVER (~30 years) experienced any engine problems on any
motorcycle engine resulting from riding through water.  True, the water
will create a lot of steam from contact with the hot engine, but that
shortly dries.

Don't worry...

Dave
(2) 1990 DR350's
Pablo wrote:
>
> Is it dangerous for the motor (when it is very hot), to cross a river?I have
> heard that it can break a motor and as me, today I have crossed a river of
> 50-60 cm (+- 20-25 in) of depth (and the motor was very hot) (the water
> covered the crankcase and part of the cylinder during 6-7 seconds), I am
> concerned.
> Also, later, during a while, the motor was fuming a lot.
> Is it dangerous or can I be calm?
>
> Bye

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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:59:09 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (dr350) New rear

I just went for my first ride today with the new Kouba Link and heavier
spring on my rear shock.  What a difference! I'm not sure which made wa
responsible for the change (most likely the combination) but the change
is remarkable.

Next will be the cartridge emulator kit and new springs for the forks.
I am anticipating great things.....

Dave
(2) 1990 DR350's

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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 16:11:11 -0700
From: Wayne Marsula' <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr350) DR350 mods

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/24/99 5:10:21 PM Central Daylight Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> <<  have a lot of cohorts who
>  can't ride for sh*#, but they sure do have tons of "stuff" on their bikes.
> They will never
>  get back the cash or all the headaches that they dumped into it either.  >>
>
>  The thing you dont seem to be getting is that many of us love to wrench as
> much as ride (or almost).  As for covering up for a lack of riding ability I
> would point out that the most highly modified machines on the planet are also
> riden by the best rider. If your theory held true the pro riders would be
> riding somthing like Yamaha RT180's to prove their ability to handle a piece
> of crap.
>
> Just a thought
> Mike A.
> Nashville

Mike,
Nice thought, but you are talking apples and oranges. When
it comes to racing, anything goes. For sport riding, things
are different. Mods for comfort are one thing, mods to make
a bike go faster are another. If your stock bike isn't fast
enough for you, then get a bike that is faster. That is more
cost effective. If you want to do it "just for fun" go
ahead, if you have the money to burn.
Wayne

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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 01:30:30 +0200
From: "Pablo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr350) Water and hot engine

>Pablo,
>
>I have NEVER (~30 years) experienced any engine problems on any
>motorcycle engine resulting from riding through water.  True, the water
>will create a lot of steam from contact with the hot engine, but that
>shortly dries.
>
>Don't worry...

I have heard that the strong difference of temperature (water- hot engine),
it causes that the components of the engine suffer an abrupt
dilation-contraction (A friend with a DR650 commented that in an occasion
his bike fell in a river, and that at the little time he observed that the
crankcase was broken....could that be the cause? ). (It is as if you
introduce a hot glass in cold water... it is very easy that the glass
breaks).

Thank you for your answer, Dave.  Well, 30 years are a lot of experience,
and your answers will be reliable :)
Bye (and, other time, sorry for my english)




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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 19:41:34 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (dr350) DR350 mods

In a message dated 9/26/99 6:09:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Mike,
 Nice thought, but you are talking apples and oranges. When
 it comes to racing, anything goes. For sport riding, things
 are different. Mods for comfort are one thing, mods to make
 a bike go faster are another. If your stock bike isn't fast
 enough for you, then get a bike that is faster. That is more
 cost effective. If you want to do it "just for fun" go
 ahead, if you have the money to burn.
 Wayne >>

 I would have to respectfully disagree wayne. I also own a Husky 510 wxe
which I love to ride on wide open trails. It has massive power and great
Stability at speed. But in the tight wooded trails of the east this big dog
becomes a bull in a china shop. It just cant turn as nimble as a smaller
lighter bike. When I moved to Tennessee from out west I decided I needed
another bike for the woods. I looked at several different machines and
dicided to buy a KTM 300 EXC. Before I could do this I went on a ride with my
motorcycle club. One of the members wanted to try my Huskey. I said no
problem. As fate would have it his bike was a 94 DR 350. I cant help it, I
fell in love with this underpowered weak legged machine. I went down and
bought one the next week and saved a couple grand to boot. Now with the money
I have saved I can set this bike up to work for me and cure the bikes short
commings. The KTM is an awsome machine but you still would have to spend
money to set it up unless you just happen to be the right weight and hieght.
I respect your desire to ride a stock bike but that just would not work for
me.

P.S. Jessee and Gino are the DR gods!

Mike A.
Nashville

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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 20:35:21 -0500
From: charles w vokac <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr350) track riding

I stopped by the local motocross track and watched a few riders.  One guy
was about 15 and was shredding on a YZ125.  Another guy was riding a
CR250 and still another was on a CR125.  I'd love to try out the DR on
the track and see what it can do.  I have very little skill and have
never been on a track - let alone over big jumps and whoops.  My bike has
stock suspension and exhaust.  I have a knobby on the front and a Pirelli
MT21 on the rear.  Also, I'm too big for the bike (6'5 -220 lbs).  Is
this a bad idea?

Chuck Vokac - 92 DR350S

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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:03:15 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Heston LaMar)
Subject: Re: (dr350) Water and hot engine

I have heard tale of people cracking blocks doing so, but never seen it
myself.  I have been
riding cycles since I was 10 (almost 19 years now).  I guess if your
motor was just steaming
hot and you blasted into freezing cold water, it might be possible.
However, a lot of these
tales you here are also probably due to intrinsic manufacturing
inconsistencies in those
blocks.  Like a slight flaw in the block that cracked more easily under
such circumstances.
Water is one of the most fun things for me and well worth the very
minimal risk.  Anyone else
have an engineering background that might could better explain this
worry??

Heston
94 350SE

Pablo wrote:

> Is it dangerous for the motor (when it is very hot), to cross a river?I have
> heard that it can break a motor and as me, today I have crossed a river of
> 50-60 cm (+- 20-25 in) of depth (and the motor was very hot) (the water
> covered the crankcase and part of the cylinder during 6-7 seconds), I am
> concerned.
> Also, later, during a while, the motor was fuming a lot.
> Is it dangerous or can I be calm?
>
> Bye
>
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