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Subject: dr-digest V1 #168
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dr-digest Saturday, June 10 2000 Volume 01 : Number 168
(dr) Vent tube mod & popping
Re: (dr) Vent tube mod & popping
RE: (dr) First DRZ Impressions.
RE: (dr) Vent tube mod & popping
(dr) 94 DR650 (& freakin MIME format!!)
(dr) plug colour
(dr) metal shavings in oil !
RE: (dr) metal shavings in oil !
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:48:02 -0400
From: "Gary Douglas" <GDouglas@peoplepc.com>
Subject: (dr) Vent tube mod & popping
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I just did the in-line tee modification to the carb/tank vent hose to =
prevent bogging in the really ough stuff (which it was doing), and now =
when I get off the throttle it has a light "pop pop pop" on =
deceleration. Is that an expected side effect? It sounds kinda cool, but =
I'm much more concerned about what's going on in the engine to cause =
that. Is there now a vacuum "leak" causing a lean mixture on =
decceleration?
Gary in VT
'99 DR350SE
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I just did the in-line tee modification =
to the=20
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it was=20
doing), and now when I get off the throttle it has a light "pop pop pop" =
on=20
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I'm=20
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Is there=20
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decceleration?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> '99 =
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 19:46:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: john miller <weekendtoy98dr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (dr) Vent tube mod & popping
- --- Gary Douglas <GDouglas@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> I just did the in-line tee modification when I get
> off the throttle it has a light "pop pop pop" on
> deceleration. Is that an expected side effect? Is
> there now a vacuum "leak" causing a lean mixture on
> decceleration?
> Gary in VT
Gary I do not think the t-vent mod will cause this.It
was probably there before.Do you have an aftermarket
muffler?A vacume leak in the exhuast or lean mixture
will cause popping on decel.I noticed it was more
prevailant when I had the CV carb on it.After the
pumper install it seems to have been reduced
drastically.
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 19:50:34 -0700
From: "Doug B" <dbragg@seatac.net>
Subject: RE: (dr) First DRZ Impressions.
Tell me about your impression of the digital instrumentation on the DRZ S
model.
Doug
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From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com] On
Behalf Of Don Forgays
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 9:46 AM
To: list (E-mail)
Subject: (dr) First DRZ Impressions.
I wrote to the list on Friday about purchasing a new DRZ400S. I returned
here on Monday with some e-mails curious about my impressions of the new
ride. My two best friends have 2000DRZ400E's, which are the dirt dual sport
models. While playing at their shop, we have had a couple of fun races,
which may be amusing/ interesting to some people. First, my buddy has a
heavily modified Kawasaki 250 dirt bike. The next door neighbor has a
heavily modified 91 Porsche 911 C4 Alchemy, with less then 10,000 miles on
the clock. In a dead heat of a 1/4 mile, my friend on the 250 not only beat
him, but was able to pass him and pull in front of him before the end of the
run. The same bike raced my buddy on his DRZ400E, and was amazed that the
DRZ actually stayed just barely ahead of that bike! Sunday, my DRZ buddies
and I spent the whole day in Swanton, Vt riding, and also made some
comparisons between the DRZ-E and the DRZ-S. On the road we raced in a
straight line. The two bikes seemed very evenly matched, neither could pull
away from the other, (by the way, that was up to 90MPH and the bike still
had more!) We swapped off a couple of times, and it is obvious that the "S"
model is a lot smoother and better mannered, not surprising given the
differences between the two. In Swanton, there is a place to ride with 3
sandpits and miles of tight hard packed wooded trails connecting them. It is
obvious that the dirt DRZ excels here, but the "S" model really did not show
any weaknesses though. Keep in mind that they are running MT 21's, and I
have the milder factory Bridgestone's on... Please don't forget, I loved my
95 DR350SE, but in my opinion, the 2000 DRZS is worth every penny. All the
rumors you have heard are true! I was hitting 60+MPH in sand, and running up
to 50MPH in tight woods. The DRZ was smooth and agile the whole time, and
never once complained. The one and only thing that bothers me about the bike
is its lack of a tachometer, (which the dirt models don't have anyway). The
power band is smooth and excessive, and I never once gave it full throttle
in the sand pits, or on the trail. IMHO, if you love your DR350, I would
stay with that, let's face it, its a great bike. If you have some $$$ to
burn, and you want to try something new, I give the new DRZ two thumbs up.
Smooth, lots of power, forgiving, all dressed up in a very attractive
package. By the way, earlier some of the list members were praising Jessie
for his contributions to the list. For what it is worth, high on my list of
reasons not to buy the DRZ was the fact that Jessie does not currently ride
one, (as far as I know). His wealth of information about these bikes is
absolutely priceless. I also give an Amen!
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 20:17:49 -0700
From: "Doug B" <dbragg@seatac.net>
Subject: RE: (dr) Vent tube mod & popping
Regarding the T-vent mod...what problem does this solve?
My DR (a 94 w/ 12k miles of hard off road usage) does not have this
mod...should I do it?
I am retiring the '94 and replacing it with a '97.
Doug
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From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com] On
Behalf Of john miller
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 7:46 PM
To: dr@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: (dr) Vent tube mod & popping
- --- Gary Douglas <GDouglas@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> I just did the in-line tee modification when I get
> off the throttle it has a light "pop pop pop" on
> deceleration. Is that an expected side effect? Is
> there now a vacuum "leak" causing a lean mixture on
> decceleration?
> Gary in VT
Gary I do not think the t-vent mod will cause this.It
was probably there before.Do you have an aftermarket
muffler?A vacume leak in the exhuast or lean mixture
will cause popping on decel.I noticed it was more
prevailant when I had the CV carb on it.After the
pumper install it seems to have been reduced
drastically.
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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:57:27 -0700
From: lisab@mountain-inter.net
Subject: (dr) 94 DR650 (& freakin MIME format!!)
Vaughn -
Before I bought my 97 DR650, I had a 95 (basically, a 94 with
a wake-up button). I added a small windscreen (the Slipstream
'Spitfire' works well) for on the pavement, and a 14t front sprocket
for in the dirt. If you could use a second rear wheel, let me
know. I picked up an extra so that I didn't have to change tires
for serious dirt play - recently turned disc, new carrier bearing,
lightly-used sprocket, and no dings - but it won't fit the 97.
By the way, (please excuse the yelling, but) WHY DO YOU GUYS
SEND MESSAGES IN 'MULTI-PART MIME FORMAT???' Some days, I could
read 'War and Peace' in less time than it takes me to scroll
through that gibberish. Just thought I'd ask ...
Lisa :)
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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 18:20:39 +0100
From: "Wesleyjohn" <Wesleyjohn@totalise.co.uk>
Subject: (dr) plug colour
from jesse's last replay, told me that the plug would be black if rich and
white if to lean, on my plug, the electrode and core is white, but the outer
(metal bit) is black. am I to lean or to rich.
Wez
DR350SP 94
Mods in progress
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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 13:49:13 -0500
From: "Bob" <rmaki@usinternet.com>
Subject: (dr) metal shavings in oil !
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I just picked up a 96DR350SE (5000 miles) and when I changed the oil =
there were metal shavings rather large abound the strainer & in the oil =
from the sump! The previous owner added a kick starter to the bike and I =
think he put something together wrong. I'm going to change the oil again =
and take the side cover with the kick start off to check it out. Any =
other suggestions?
I guess that's the chance you take with used bikes.
Bob
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I just picked up a 96DR350SE (5000 =
miles) and=20
when I changed the oil there were metal shavings rather large abound the =
strainer & in the oil from the sump! The previous owner added a kick =
starter=20
to the bike and I think he put something together wrong. I'm going to =
change the=20
oil again and take the side cover with the kick start off to check it =
out. Any=20
other suggestions?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I guess that's the chance you take with used=20
bikes.</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 14:10:58 -0700
From: "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" <jesse@rvi.net>
Subject: RE: (dr) metal shavings in oil !
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Hi Bob, check the shaft that the kick start idle gear is on for looseness.
It meshes with the gear behind the clutch. Also check the gear on the kick
start shaft for loosness. Let me know what you find and we can go from
there.
Regards,
Jesse Kientz
http://www.kientech.com/
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From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 11:49 AM
To: dr list
Subject: (dr) metal shavings in oil !
I just picked up a 96DR350SE (5000 miles) and when I changed the oil there
were metal shavings rather large abound the strainer & in the oil from the
sump! The previous owner added a kick starter to the bike and I think he put
something together wrong. I'm going to change the oil again and take the
side cover with the kick start off to check it out. Any other suggestions?
I guess that's the chance you take with used bikes.
Bob
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D20190521-10062000>Hi=20
Bob, check the shaft that the kick start idle gear is on for=20
looseness. It meshes with the gear behind the clutch. Also check =
the gear=20
on the kick start shaft for loosness. Let me know what you find =
and we can=20
go from there.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Regards,<BR>Jesse Kientz<BR><A =
href=3D"http://www.kientech.com/"=20
target=3D_blank>http://www.kientech.com/</A></FONT> </P>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
owner-dr@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of</B> =
Bob<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
Saturday, June 10, 2000 11:49 AM<BR><B>To:</B> dr =
list<BR><B>Subject:</B> (dr)=20
metal shavings in oil !<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I just picked up a 96DR350SE (5000 =
miles) and=20
when I changed the oil there were metal shavings rather large abound the =
strainer & in the oil from the sump! The previous owner added a kick =
starter=20
to the bike and I think he put something together wrong. I'm going to =
change the=20
oil again and take the side cover with the kick start off to check it =
out. Any=20
other suggestions?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I guess that's the chance you take with used=20
bikes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bob</FONT></DIV>
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