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dr-digest             Friday, June 9 2000             Volume 01 : Number 167



Re: (dr) is there a better seat?
Fw: (dr) is there a better seat?
Re: (dr) is there a better seat?
(dr) Used Parts for sale...
(dr) Seat
Re: (dr) Seat
(dr) Any 1994 dr 650's Out There?

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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 01:15:09 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (dr) is there a better seat?

On Thu, 8 Jun 2000 23:40:51 -0500 "Bob" <[e-mail]> writes:
> The seat on my 96 DR350 (5000 miles) is killing me if I ride on the
> street for more than 10-20 miles. I think it is the original seat
> foam & cover. Any advice? Or am I a whiner?
>
>  Thanks
> Bob
>

Bob,

This is from an article I wrote in 1995.  It still hold pretty true.

Al Roof

Promoter - The Honda Hoot Carolina Dual Sport Adventure Ride
Founder & President - The Blue Ridge Pathfinders Motorcycle Club, Inc.
Office Manager/Special Events Coordinator - Suzuki-Kawasaki of Gastonia
Public Relations Officer - The North Carolina Off-Highway Vehicle
Association, Inc.
Alternate State Representative - The National Off-Highway Vehicle
Conservation Council, Inc.

SEATS
Pick up just about any DR test or hop-up article penned by the western
press and youÆll see an extra tall, extra long Baja Products/Ceet saddle
kit bolted on.  TheyÆll tell you that it drastically improves the DRÆs
ergonomics and is far more comfortable than stock.  Maybe in the deserts
of the west, but not on our tight, technical eastern trails.  I tried
riding with one for over a year, but the extra height moves a large part
of the center of gravity (you) too high and your perched so high that you
can forget dabbing when the going gets tough.  I can assure you that when
300 pounds of motorcycle leans over past itÆs balance point the rascal is
going down...hard!

The dimensions of the stock seat are the best for eastern off-roading.
As long as youÆre constantly moving around, as you do off-road, comfort
is not a problem.  But hit a twenty mile road section and youÆll be
begging for mercy from the vinyl covered torture device.  At the very
least, remove the foofy little buddy strap before it induces a terminal
case of monkey butt.

A couple of years ago, Mike Corbin and company introduced a funky looking
seat that they claimed offered all day comfort.  They were wrong!  In
just a few short miles, the average riderÆs thighs will begin to cramp
from fighting the exaggerated forward slant of the seatÆs front section.
To make matters worse, the thing is so wide that you have to adopt a
bowlegged stance when standing and loose all sense of control on the
trail.

Fear not, there may be hope!  Tom Seymour and the folks at
Saddleman/Travelcade are introducing an off-road line of very trick seat
kit that have firm foam topped with a layer of space age medical-tech gel
like that found in wheel chair seats, Spenco bicycle seat covers and
gloves.  The movement of the gel stimulates circulation at contact points
thereby eliminating so called hot spots

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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 06:11:46 -0500
From: "Ron Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: (dr) is there a better seat?

>Your reference to the Travelcade gel relief is noted. I do not know what
>other set-up they offer, but the strap-on seat pad (shaped somewhat like a
>saddle's top view) is useless. It is nice as long as you are not
>accelerating, decelerating or trying to move around on the bike.
>
>Ron
>
>
>>Fear not, there may be hope!  Tom Seymour and the folks at
>>Saddleman/Travelcade are introducing an off-road line of very trick seat
>>kit that have firm foam topped with a layer of space age medical-tech gel
>>like that found in wheel chair seats, Spenco bicycle seat covers and
>>gloves.  The movement of the gel stimulates circulation at contact points
>>thereby eliminating so called hot spots
>your message.
>


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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:33:41 -0400
From: "William C. Mitchell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) is there a better seat?

>     The seat on my 96 DR350 (5000 miles) is killing me if I ride  on the
>street for more than 10-20 miles. I think it is the original seat foam  &
>cover. Any advice? Or am I a whiner?    Thanks Bob

Suzuki logo gel seats made by Travelcade are available through the dealers
accessory catalog. For the DR350 there is a spandura cover model and an all
vinyl cover model. I bought one with the all vinyl cover and it is so
slippery I wish I had bought the spandura one. I think they are the same
price, about $175. Mine feels much better than the stock seat, no more numb
groin, and it should get better as it breaks in. I would imagine the
spandura is broken in when new.

Bill Mitchell
98 DR350S



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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 13:16:29 EDT
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Subject: (dr) Used Parts for sale...

Black steel DR-S speedo/tach guard: 10$

Aluminum barkbusters: $20

plus shipping..

Guy

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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 17:04:57 -0400
From: "Gary Douglas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Seat

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<<<The seat on my 96 DR350 (5000 miles) is killing me >>

   I think most of us know exactly what you mean. I think the real fault =
is the shape of the seat. That sharp transition from horizontal to =
vertical, compounded by vibration, hurts!!  I was amazed at the price of =
those kinda silly padded bicycling shorts (try $50-75), but right next =
to them at the bike shop were practically the same thing, but meant =
specifically to be worn as underwear, and they were $20-$25. Basically =
padded, boxer length underwear. I tried them out on a 100 mile 2 hour =
ride, and was happy with how much they helped. They eliminated about 75% =
of the pain.  I don't go on a long ride without them now.
   Anybody have an online link to see / buy the Travelcade seat?

Gary "Numb-butt" Douglas
So. Burlington, VT

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but=20
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meant=20
specifically to be worn as underwear, and they were $20-$25. Basically =
padded,=20
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happy with how much they helped. They eliminated about 75% of the pain.  =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">   Anybody have an online link =
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buy the Travelcade seat?</DIV>
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 22:55:03 +0400
From: "Colin Parkes" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) Seat

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I read somewhere that Suzuki actually got "the Spanish Inquisition" in =
to design the original seat....
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary Douglas=20
  To: [e-mail] ; Bob=20
  Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 1:04 AM
  Subject: (dr) Seat


  <<<The seat on my 96 DR350 (5000 miles) is killing me >>

     I think most of us know exactly what you mean. I think the real =
fault is the shape of the seat. That sharp transition from horizontal to =
vertical, compounded by vibration, hurts!!  I was amazed at the price of =
those kinda silly padded bicycling shorts (try $50-75), but right next =
to them at the bike shop were practically the same thing, but meant =
specifically to be worn as underwear, and they were $20-$25. Basically =
padded, boxer length underwear. I tried them out on a 100 mile 2 hour =
ride, and was happy with how much they helped. They eliminated about 75% =
of the pain. I don't go on a long ride without them now.
     Anybody have an online link to see / buy the Travelcade seat?

  Gary "Numb-butt" Douglas
  So. Burlington, VT

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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 09, 2000 =
1:04 AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> (dr) Seat</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D2><<<The seat on =
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  (5000 miles) is killing me >></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">   I think most of us know =
exactly=20
  what you mean. I think the real fault is the shape of the seat. That =
sharp=20
  transition from horizontal to vertical, compounded by vibration, =
hurts!! =20
  I was amazed at the price of those kinda silly padded bicycling shorts =
(try=20
  $50-75), but right next to them at the bike shop were practically the =
same=20
  thing, but meant specifically to be worn as underwear, and they were =
$20-$25.=20
  Basically padded, boxer length underwear. I tried them out on a 100 =
mile 2=20
  hour ride, and was happy with how much they helped. They eliminated =
about 75%=20
  of the pain. I don't go on a long ride without them now.</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">   Anybody have an online =
link to see=20
  / buy the Travelcade seat?</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 19:41:30 -0500
From: "vaughn.spears@home" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Any 1994 dr 650's Out There?

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Hello to the dr list,

I recently purchased a used 1994 dr 650.  It had 8.1k on the clock, appears
to be stock and in xlnt condition.  I subscribed to the list about a week
ago (after buying the bike) and have found it to be very useful!

The bike is mostly a joy to ride.  I bought it primarily for fun in the
dirt, but havn't had it in the dirt yet! . . . I'm having too much fun on
the country/mountain roads and state highways!!  The only negatives after a
week (and 500 miles) of getting used to it are:

1.)  The seat (Ouch!)
2.)  Flairing similar to the KLR650 would be useful
3.)  Somewhat heavy (not sure how it will handle in tight spots)
4.)  1st gear needs to be geared a little lower
5.)  Difficult to find aftermarket stuff for the older dr 650's

I'm curious . . . are there any more 94 dr 650's out there or has anyone
owned one??

Thanks,
Vaughn Spears
'94 DR650

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