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dr-digest            Sunday, June 11 2000            Volume 01 : Number 169



RE: (dr) plug colour
Re: (dr) metal shavings in oil !
(dr) Vent tee mod & popping
RE: (dr) Vent tube mod & popping
(dr) Dual Sport Ride

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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 14:27:12 -0700
From: "Jesse Kientz   www.kientech.com" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) plug colour

HI Wesley, you have three circuits in the carb the Idle, (pilot), midrange
(needle) and main Jet. You can be rich in one and lean in another.  To find
out which is which you can put a piece of tape on the stationary portion of
the throttle and then put another piece on the movable portion of the
throttle at 1/4 open another at half and another at 3/4 open position. Then
find some seldom used road and put about 10 miles on it at 1/4 throttle then
check the plug color. Do the same thing at the other positions to see where
you are running black and where you are running white. What is your jetting
sizes now?

Regards,
Jesse Kientz
http://www.kientech.com/

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From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]On
Behalf Of Wesleyjohn
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 10:21 AM
To: Dr
Subject: (dr) plug colour


from jesse's last replay, told me that the plug would be black if rich and
white if to lean, on my plug, the electrode and core is white, but the outer
(metal bit) is black. am I to lean or to rich.
Wez
DR350SP 94
Mods in progress


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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:19:04 -0400
From: "Richard Fantini" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) metal shavings in oil !

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Haven't actually messed with a DR kicker assembly before... but you may =
also want to check that the return spring is installed properly.  If =
it's not preloaded correctly, it can cock itself sideways and rub =
against the gear behind it.

- -Rich
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com <[e-mail]>
    To: Bob <[e-mail]>; dr list <[e-mail]>
    Date: Saturday, June 10, 2000 5:10 PM
    Subject: RE: (dr) metal shavings in oil !
   =20
   =20
    Hi Bob,  check the shaft that the kick start idle gear is on for =
looseness.  It meshes with the gear behind the clutch. Also check the =
gear on the kick start shaft for loosness.  Let me know what you find =
and we can go from there.
   =20
    Regards,
    Jesse Kientz
    http://www.kientech.com/=20

   =20
    -----Original Message-----
    From: [e-mail] =
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Bob
    Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 11:49 AM
    To: dr list
    Subject: (dr) metal shavings in oil !
   =20
   =20
    I just picked up a 96DR350SE (5000 miles) and when I changed the oil =
there were metal shavings rather large abound the strainer & in the oil =
from the sump! The previous owner added a kick starter to the bike and I =
think he put something together wrong. I'm going to change the oil again =
and take the side cover with the kick start off to check it out. Any =
other suggestions?
    =20
    I guess that's the chance you take with used bikes.
    =20
    Bob
    =20

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Haven't actually messed with a DR =
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
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    Bob,  check the shaft that the kick start idle gear is on for=20
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    <P><FONT size=3D2>Regards,<BR>Jesse Kientz<BR><A=20
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    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
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[mailto:[e-mail]]<B>On Behalf=20
    Of</B> Bob<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 10, 2000 11:49 =
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!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I just picked up a 96DR350SE =
(5000 miles)=20
    and when I changed the oil there were metal shavings rather large =
abound the=20
    strainer & in the oil from the sump! The previous owner added a =
kick=20
    starter to the bike and I think he put something together wrong. I'm =
going=20
    to change the oil again and take the side cover with the kick start =
off to=20
    check it out. Any other suggestions?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I guess that's the chance you take with used=20
    bikes.</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 16:09:18 -0400
From: "Gary Douglas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Vent tee mod & popping

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I did the carb to tank vent tube "tee" modification to prevent bogging =
in the rough stuff, and found that I then had popping on decceleration, =
and the bike just didn't seem to have quite as much midrange. I capped =
off the tee and, sure enough, popping went away and the bike had it's =
regular amount of power. Hmmm.
  Gary
  '99 DR350SE

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decceleration, and the bike just didn't seem to have quite as much =
midrange. I=20
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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:53:14 -0700
From: "Doug B" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) Vent tube mod & popping

Gary...

By reading your message below message and then the other one where you
describe the popping going away after you capped off your tee, I'm sure you
tee'd the wrong line.  Below, in your first message, you say "tube that goes
from the right side of the carb back to the gas tank petcock."

The line that goes to the petcock from the right side of the carb is a
vacuum line that operates the petcock, only allowing fuel to flow while the
engine is running.  After looking at both of my DR's, I can see a line that
exits the right side of the carb, near the top, and goes up, it's only about
4 inches long and is a vent line.  Apparently this is the line to vent, with
a tee and another hose going down I presume...

Sounds like you need to move to tee to the vent line and remove it from the
vacuum line, eh?
:)


Doug
94 DR350SE
97 DR350SE


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From:     Gary Douglas [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent:    Friday, June 09, 2000 4:10 AM
To:    Doug B
Subject:    Re: (dr) Vent tube mod & popping

<<<Regarding the T-vent mod...what problem does this solve?>>>

   It's pretty common with DR's that the engine will bog for a second when
you hit some really choppy whoops. It's caused, I'm told on this list, by
gas going up into the vent line (tube that goes from the right side of the
carb back to the gas tank petcock)  and getting trapped there for a second.
The mod, which several people on this list have done, is to cut that line in
the middle and put in a plastic tee with a drain hose. If your DR doesn't do
it, great! Of course, maybe you're just not riding fast enough ;-)
   Enjoy that DR!
     Gary Douglas





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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:01:54 -0400
From: "SWAMPY!" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Dual Sport Ride

Just a reminder about the Devil's creek Dual Sport Ride And Adventure Tour
coming up July 29/30 in Brooksville, Florida.

Go to http://www.geocities.com/mrktm/creekflyer.html
to learn more about it and to download an entry form.

Swampy
A14 KLR650
KTM RXC620
XT225


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