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dr-digest           Saturday, March 25 2000           Volume 01 : Number 081



(dr) DRZ400E Vibration and Missing
Re: (dr) GPS wiring on DR350
RE: (dr) Shock Spring
Re: (dr) GPS (more)
(dr) Florida Cycle Area Work Day
Re: (dr) GPS (more)
[Fwd: (dr) Handlebars]
Re: (dr) GPS (more)

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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 23:13:44 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (dr) DRZ400E Vibration and Missing

My bike has a weird cyclical vibration when riding on the road. It will
vibrate for a second or two then stop for three or four seconds. The faster I
ride the shorter the time between the vibrations until about 55-60 mph, then
it continuously resonates (vibrates). I have replaced the tires with M21's.
Any idea what would cause this? I still have the off idle miss as well. I did
turn the pilot screw out 2 turns from fully in and it seemed to help, but if
I turn the throttle open just a bit it will still miss for a couple of
seconds.

Thanks
Mike


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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:24:24 -0700
From: "Tom Warr" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) GPS wiring on DR350

I just attatched my Garmin III+ to my KTM Adventure.  Had to get a cross
bar, as the Magura bars don't have one (they are like ProTapers).  The
TouraTech mount (with rubber vibration isolators) attatches to that.  The
CycoActive Bar pack then attatches below the GPS, fitting just right.  It
takes a while to line everything up, and avoid tangles, but I think I got it
right.

I hard wired the unit to my battery, as has been noted.

Tomorrow, I will see how, off pavement, on roads that are unfamiliar to me,
and not on the paper map (yes, I still need one of those) show up on the
GPS.  I have constructed a route on the computer (using MapSource Roads and
Recreation, from Garmin), and I'll see how accurate the CDROM is.

By the way, this month's Motorcycle Consumer News has a comparison test of
several GPS units.  The new Garmin Emap scored the highest (mainly due to
its larger memory capacity - 14 mb, versus 1.4 mb - allowing more room for
downloading supplemental map detail) with the III+ second.  I got the latter
because it is waterproof, and the cool vibration proof mounts from TouraTech
are available for it.

New toy, or essential navigation device?  We'll see, I guess.

Tom Warr



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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:16:10 -0600
From: "Jan Bradley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) Shock Spring

Hey all,
             I talked to Progressive yesterday. Very un-knowledgable
and not much help. They only make the 420 series shock for the '96-'00
DR650SE. In fact they all but called me a liar and said they never made
a 415 series (fully adjustable, remote res) shock for that model.  I
have an article from the March '96 issue of Dirt Rider that they tested
one and it is fitted to a '96 model. The guy said he looked even in an
old book, and there was no listing for that. He even checked with
another person there!! They said that they made one for the '90 to '95
model. They couldn't have used one of these in the test because
according to them there is 2 inches difference in the shocks. Anyway,
the 420 shock that they have now, is only adjustable for preload and
rebound. Compression is automatic. There is no remote reserv. the gas
bladder is inside the shock. Sounds to me like they cut some corners to
cheapen the shock. The price is $415. The spring is progressive of
course and goes from 6.25 Kg to 6.9x Kg. No heavier spring is available.
Like I said they weren't much help. If the stock spring is 6.5 Kg, and
the Progressive starts at 6.25Kg, I never would get the sag right. I
have the stock shock preload almost all the way at the end of the
threads to get proper sag, and I am only about 195lbs!!

  There is what I have found, anyone else??

JB


>>> "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]> 03/23/00 10:24AM >>>
> I can't get the sag right on my 97 DR650.  I need a heavier
> spring.  Suzuki
> doesn't show an optional spring.  I don't  know the spring rate of
the
> stocker to compare.  What am I to do?
>
> I weigh about 250 ready to ride.
>
> Wayne Hinman

you can become Sherlock Holmes for us. Race Tech doesn't have one
either. I
don't know about Eibach. Here are the dimensions of the stocker:

Rated at 6.5 kg

Outside diameter=86mm
Inside diameter=62.57 mm
Coil diameter=11.9 mm
Length = 255 mm.

Please let me know what you find out...Jesse can you help?

Kurt


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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:00:36 -0600
From: "Jan Bradley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) GPS (more)

Tom (and list),
                       I also have the GPS III+, mounted on my DR650SE.
I am using the RAM mount I purchased through CycoActive. It is an
articulated thing that mounts to a hard rubber ball mounted to the bars.
It works very well. Please let us (or me off list) know how the CD map
stuff works. I have been debating whether or not to purchase that CD or
not. I did a little bit of light off road riding the other day, and it
did just fine. I purchased mine from A-Loop and had it "hardened" (shock
proofed) at the time of purchase. I have it plugged into DC while on the
bike too. It is very handy as a speedometer and clock as the factory DR
speedo is a bit off. Having a volt meter is cool too. If anyone would
like more info or pictures (I have a digital camera), please e-mail me
direct.

JB

>>> "Tom Warr" <[e-mail]> 03/24/00 11:24PM >>>
I just attatched my Garmin III+ to my KTM Adventure.  Had to get a
cross
bar, as the Magura bars don't have one (they are like ProTapers).  The
TouraTech mount (with rubber vibration isolators) attatches to that.
The
CycoActive Bar pack then attatches below the GPS, fitting just right.
It
takes a while to line everything up, and avoid tangles, but I think I
got it
right.

I hard wired the unit to my battery, as has been noted.

Tomorrow, I will see how, off pavement, on roads that are unfamiliar to
me,
and not on the paper map (yes, I still need one of those) show up on
the
GPS.  I have constructed a route on the computer (using MapSource Roads
and
Recreation, from Garmin), and I'll see how accurate the CDROM is.

By the way, this month's Motorcycle Consumer News has a comparison test
of
several GPS units.  The new Garmin Emap scored the highest (mainly due
to
its larger memory capacity - 14 mb, versus 1.4 mb - allowing more room
for
downloading supplemental map detail) with the III+ second.  I got the
latter
because it is waterproof, and the cool vibration proof mounts from
TouraTech
are available for it.

New toy, or essential navigation device?  We'll see, I guess.

Tom Warr



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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:53:03 -0500
From: "SWAMPY!" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Florida Cycle Area Work Day

Hey Florida Riders,

Our off road brethren are working hard. If ya wanna help 'em, show up!
heck,, on the last project, I made the map of the area people recieve when
they get their permits, and if you look at that fence, I hammered a few
staples into that bad boy. Many hands make lighter work!

Don't forget to wear a WDSRC shirt!

Swampy
_____________________________________________
>Dear Sir or Madam,
>The Central Florida Trail Riders and the Florida Trail Riders have been
>working together for three years to make some much needed improvements to
the
>only State owned motorcycle / ATV Riding area in the State of Florida. Jack
>Terrell (FTR) has led the effort to acquire Federal money made available
>through the Department of Transportation federal gas tax (The National
>Recreational Trails Fund grant program) This program allows non-profit
groups
>to match federal funds with in-kind grants. Both CFTR and FTR each pledged
>grants of approximately $25,000 earning the park almost $100,000.00 worth
of
>improvements.
>The past two years have been filled with completing the contracts, planning
>the improvements, searching for donations, and general planning of the
work.
>The Division of Forestry has welcomed the improvements as their budget
rarely
>allows for any capitol improvements. Park managers Tom Willis and Wayne
Jones
>have embraced the project from the start, making significant suggestions
and
>directions as to how both park managers and users could get the most out of
>the money we have arranged for.
>The majority of the work and donated labor will be performed on the weekend
>of April 15 and 16th. Several hundred members from both groups will
converge
>on the park for two days of hard Labor. When they leave, all that use the
>park will enjoy larger safer parking area's, several new showers, lots of
>fresh paint and some major road improvements.
>The main entry road has never had a proper base laid down so one of the
>biggest projects will be rebuilding a nearly two thousand-foot section. The
>sides suffer from severe erosion and a steep hill has claimed many a
visitor
>to the park. The plans call for preparing the area and installing a lime
rock
>base, shaping the sidewalls for proper drainage and installing tiered water
>flow section with sufficient cover to help eliminate runoff.
>This project has taken many hours of hard work from a large number of
>dedicated volunteers. All of these people expected nothing in return but
the
>opportunity to let their family continue to do what they have always loved
to
>do Trail Ride.
>If you would like to know more about our group or our ongoing projects or
>would like to donate time or money to this project contact Keith Finnerty
at
>1-800-608-4404 or just come out to the Croom Cycle park in the
Withlacoochee
>State forest on 4/15-16/ 2000
> Keith Finnerty
>
>President, Central Florida Trail Riders,
>Florida Trail Riders
>Responsible Motorcyclists
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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:58:34 -0500
From: webify <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) GPS (more)

Jan Bradley wrote:
>
> Tom (and list),
>                        I also have the GPS III+, mounted on my DR650SE.
> I am using the RAM mount I purchased through CycoActive. It is an
> articulated thing that mounts to a hard rubber ball mounted to the bars.
> It works very well. Please let us (or me off list) know how the CD map
> stuff works. I have been debating whether or not to purchase that CD or
> not.

I got the MapSource CD for Christmas. The mapping program itself it as
simple as a fantastically detailed map of the US. Way more detail than
National Geographic Trip Planner or Delorme Street Atlas or Rand McNally
Trip Maker. If there is a road, even one with a bar over it that looks
seldom used, it will often times be on the CD. Huge numbers of hunter
access roads, FS special roads and all those sorts of things are listed.

To date I have only loaded the three local counties, an extremely easy
process, into my GPS III+. I loaded those at "medium" detail level. I am
totally amazed by what I see going by on the screen as I travel about.
Local names for things that I never knew the exact location are on this
software!! 15 years of living here and a GPS is teaching me my local
geography!! Realtime!!! REAL LIFE!! When zoomed in with the unit, you
can pretty much trust every curve you see coming. I believe it when I
see a curve on it, but I don't rely on it to show me every curve. So
far, if its paved its on there, if its dirt and has a number its on
there, if its dirt and has been around awhile, it is likely on there. It
includes campgrounds, trails, all sorts of good data. This software
takes a great product and makes it unbelievable. I am totally reliant on
both for traveling. I do about 25k per year on my street machine.
- --
John Hinton - Goshen, VA.
COG #3632
86 Kawasaki Concours
91 Suzuki DR250S "The Doctor"
89 Honda PC-800 Hers
86 Suzuki Savage 650 Hers
http://www.ew3d.com
http://www.mcrides.com/concours

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:11:34 -0800
From: Andrew <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Fwd: (dr) Handlebars]

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Bob,

I put the Button bars on a few days ago and the installation went pretty
smooth.  They feel good cruising on city streets around town but I
haven't had a chance to try them off-road yet (although I,ve got a trip
planned next Thursday with some friends). I'm a beginning rider and am
tall- these feel much better standing up.

Thanks for responding to my message!

Andy Campbell
99 350se

Bob Ralston wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>
> I run the Renthal Jimmy Button bars on my 93 DR350S and love them.  These
> bars were described as being as high as the Desert bars but with a Motocross
> bend.  The put me up farther on the front end and seemed to make the bike
> turn better.  I also just put on the Applied Racing top tripple clamp with
> the higher mounts and this made a huge difference in standing comfort.
>
> Bob Ralston
>
> 93 DR350S - FMF Powercore IV SA, Airbox mods, Fineline Suspension, Applied
> Racing Triple clamps, Renthal Jimmy Button Bars, Scotts and other Thumper
> Racing products too numerous to mention. Next step Vortex Airbox and swing
> arm bracing.
> >

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Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:31:52 -0600
From: Bryan Ply <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) GPS (more)

Jan Bradley wrote:
>
> Tom (and list),
    I have the GPSIII+ with the Mapsource CD, personally I think that the
CD is well worth the 80 dollars for it, the GPS main memory just list
all of the major roads, none of the farm to market(FM) road numbers, if
you install the CD then you get a list all of the roads. The only
downside is using it in big towns like Dallas.  Dallas and FT Worth are
divided into 4 sectionson the CD.  If you put all four sections into the
GPS you have used all of the ram, and cannot put any more counties into
it.  But if installing counties that dont have a lot of roads, it is
possible to install up to 13 counties into it. I uses the maps to get
more detail in the towns that I am not used to, and use Waypoint+ and
Delorme Street Atlas to download the waypoints and routes for trips.

    Jan I would like to see how you have your GPS mounted and wired up.

Thanks
Bryan

>                        I also have the GPS III+, mounted on my DR650SE.
> I am using the RAM mount I purchased through CycoActive. It is an
> articulated thing that mounts to a hard rubber ball mounted to the bars.
> It works very well. Please let us (or me off list) know how the CD map
> stuff works. I have been debating whether or not to purchase that CD or
> not. I did a little bit of light off road riding the other day, and it
> did just fine. I purchased mine from A-Loop and had it "hardened" (shock
> proofed) at the time of purchase. I have it plugged into DC while on the
> bike too. It is very handy as a speedometer and clock as the factory DR
> speedo is a bit off. Having a volt meter is cool too. If anyone would
> like more info or pictures (I have a digital camera), please e-mail me
> direct.
>
> JB

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