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Subject: dr-digest V1 #11
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dr-digest Wednesday, January 19 2000 Volume 01 : Number 011
(dr) Ta Da... The DR400
RE: (dr) [DR350] - What about the DR400z ?
Fwd: (dr) DR350 cartridge emulators
Re: Fwd: (dr) DR350 cartridge emulators
(dr) Project DR650...Centerstand found...
Re: (dr) Ta Da... The DR400
Re: (dr) Project DR650...Centerstand found...
Re: (dr) Project DR650...Centerstand found...
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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:07:43 -0800
From: "Arne Larsen" <nookie@telus.net>
Subject: (dr) Ta Da... The DR400
From Suzuki...
The DR-Z400 and DR-Z400E are identical except for the electric starter on
the "E" version (the one we tested). According to Suzuki, the electric
starter adds 13 pounds of weight. The kick start DR-Z400 has a claimed dry
weight of 249 pounds, while the DR-Z400E weighs in at 262.3 pounds. The dual
sport (the "S" model) weighs in at 291 pounds dry.
O.K., O.K... You want more? Check it out.
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/firstride.html
Cheers,
Arne
KLR650 Listmeister
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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:13:21 -0800
From: "Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com" <jesse@rvi.net>
Subject: RE: (dr) [DR350] - What about the DR400z ?
Well Guy, You should be in the saddle by now let me know what you think. I
stopped by the local Suzuki shop and they were assembling a new DRz400E
looks pretty nice.
Regards Jesse
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From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On
Behalf Of Guy Schneider
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 1:28 PM
To: dr@lists.xmission.com
Subject: RE: (dr) [DR350] - What about the DR400z ?
The DR400z should be called the DR400L - for late. I sold my 350 in Nov.
expecting them to be released in Dec. as originally suggested by my dealer.
They have yet to show but I did finally get word from American Suzuki, after
personally demanding to speak to the VP NA Sales, that the bikes are in Los
Angeles now, will be allocated to dealers this week and will show up in the
showrooms next week. I would imagine that every bike is already spoken for
so you should see the bikes out and about real soon - at least here on the
Wst Coast. The DRZ400 and DRZ400E are the first to be released with the
DRZ400S showing up in March.
All information I have read (which unfortunately is not much) is very
positive. Additionally, I have had the privilege of speaking with Rodney
Smith about the bike and he loves it. Suzuki has hired Mike Kudrowski out
of retirement to race the bike in the GNCC series. Like all new products, I
am sure it will take a year to work out the bugs but I think Yamaha has
paved the way and this bike should be a good one out of the blocks. I have
heard it produces 48HP out of the box. I have also not heard very many good
things about the suspension other than they took the suspension of a 97
RM250 - I don't know if this is good or bad?. Specs indicate the kick start
version will weigh 248lbs. and the electric start version 262 lbs. I have
also heard the the electric start version will offer a kick start kit for
about $250 so you can remove the starter. The kick start version will not
be convertable. It has been really frustrating because the dealers either
have no clue about these bikes or have been instructed not to talk until
they are released.
Regarding cost - this is the least expensive bike in its category. A Yamaha
WR400 will run you $6700 out the door and are tough to find. A KTM 400SXC
will run about the same. The Honda XR400 is about the same price as the DR
($6000) but its air cooled and will likely be decommissioned next year by a
water pumper. A good used DR350 will run about $2500 but when you add a
pipe, a Vortex box, suspension work, carb jetting, sprokets and new tires,
your into it for $4000 min and its still a 350 with a rapid declining value.
The net result, I should have not sold my 350 until the 400 arrived that way
I wouldn't be riding the pine during the best time of the year. For those
who love to turn the wrench as much as they love to ride (me included) the
350 will remain a shop favorite for a while longer and so this may be your
best investment. For me, if the 400 dosn't show next week, I am going out
and buying the WR because I just cant wait for that electric start model any
longer.
Regards,
gts
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From: owner-dr@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-dr@lists.xmission.com]On
Behalf Of Tim Bosseloo
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 12:07 PM
To: dr mailing list
Subject: (dr) [DR350] - What about the DR400z ?
Hello list,
Anybody already had the occasion to ride the new one ?
What are your impressions ?
Don't you think the price is too high now ?
Tim - DR350
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:06:12 CET
From: "Mauro Regusci" <mauro4fun@hotmail.com>
Subject: Fwd: (dr) DR350 cartridge emulators
Hi Mike,
so far my 2 years experiance with Emulators can tell here's my advices:
- - Use 15w oil as suggested on Race Tech specs
- - With forks collapsed and springs out set the oil level at 130mm (5")which
is ~520ml per fork.
- - Very important is the spring rate corresponding to your weight,
0.43 means 170-200lbs in full riding gear; after that you should reach a
70-84mm SAG whit 10-20mm preload. If you're out of this preload range it
means spring rate is too hard or too soft for you!
- - If you have all these parameters correct, you can begin adjusting (if
needed) compression damping by adjusting the valve spring preload or the oil
level, and rebound with oil viscosity.
I'm pretty happy with the standard adjustment, I just use to change the
spring rate depending on the terrain I ride (I have the triple rate springs
and I'm near the 170lbs limit), and I use to change quite frequently the oil
(each 50-100 hours dirt ride).
So far so good, I think Emulators are a good deal for DR350 ... if it comes
along with a good shock (I use ÷hlins)!!!
I hope these helps, have a good ride.
Mauro
'96 DR350SE
'97 TDM850
>From: MREINA@webtv.net (Michael Reina)
>Reply-To: MREINA@webtv.net (Michael Reina)
>To: dr@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: (dr) DR350 cartridge emulators
>Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:16:13 -0500 (EST)
>
> Just got my emulators in today. I already have race-tech .043 kg
>springs in with 15w oil.(that is what was in the instructions.) What
>weight oil is best to use with the emulators and .043 kgs springs?
>(instructions for the emulators says to use 10w or what is normally
>recommended in bikes manual.)
>I AM CONFUSED! Does anybody out there have any experience with these two
>fine Race-tech products, what weight oil works best, and any other tips
>or things to look out for installing these?
> THANKS and
>WELCOME to the list DR650's
>Mike Reina
>93 DR350s
>96 R1100R
>
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:50:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonathan Moon <jlmoon@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: (dr) DR350 cartridge emulators
A newbie type question:
Are the forks on later model DR350 (dual sport models)
cartridge style forks? If they are, would simply
swapping out springs be sufficient for (front)
suspension improvement?
Thanks
Jon
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:34:12 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <ajax@xmission.com>
Subject: (dr) Project DR650...Centerstand found...
Finally found a centerstand for the DR650SET as well as the excellent Laser Pro Duro
stainless exhaust. The centerstand is made by Rikki Cross, an Italian company. I'm
ordering it from M & P in Britain for $106.50 + $62.24 shipping. They say it will take 3
weeks for delivery...right...we'll see.
I'm also going to try a GIVI A-601 windscreen. Fred is shipping me a Factory jet kit and
I'm getting a K & N filter from Tim Bernard. Tim says my racks will be here in a week,
I've already received the GIVI panniers and topcase. I removed the rear rack last night
and am sending it to him with my Top of the Line Rack for fitting and powder coating to
match the racks. Fred sent me the IMS tank. Corbin should arrive any day. Bike is in a
million pieces. I'm going to drop the forks and shock and send them to Bob Bell at
Precision Concepts.
Kurt
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:47:21 EST
From: RAld277@aol.com
Subject: Re: (dr) Ta Da... The DR400
Great article!
Thanks
Mike A.
Nashville
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:39:25 -0800
From: "Arne Larsen" <nookie@telus.net>
Subject: Re: (dr) Project DR650...Centerstand found...
From: Kurt Simpson <ajax@xmission.com>
Subject: (dr) Project DR650...Centerstand found...
> Finally found a centerstand for the DR650SET as well as the excellent
Laser Pro Duro
> stainless exhaust. The centerstand is made by Rikki Cross, an Italian
company. I'm
> ordering it from M & P in Britain for $106.50 + $62.24 shipping. They say
it will take 3
> weeks for delivery...right...we'll see.
>
> I'm also going to try a GIVI A-601 windscreen. Fred is shipping me a
Factory jet kit and
> I'm getting a K & N filter from Tim Bernard. Tim says my racks will be
here in a week,
> I've already received the GIVI panniers and topcase. I removed the rear
rack last night
> and am sending it to him with my Top of the Line Rack for fitting and
powder coating to
> match the racks. Fred sent me the IMS tank. Corbin should arrive any day.
Bike is in a
> million pieces. I'm going to drop the forks and shock and send them to Bob
Bell at
> Precision Concepts.
>
> Kurt
LOL...
Trying awful hard to forget Oingo I see... =^)
Can't wait to see her in June.
Cheers,
Arne
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:36:17 -0700
From: "Tom Warr" <drwarr@montana.com>
Subject: Re: (dr) Project DR650...Centerstand found...
Sounds exciting, Kurt!
How big is that IMS tank, by the way? Does Acerbis make one for the bike?
I look forward to more updates! Thanks, Kurt.
Tom Warr
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