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dr-digest         Wednesday, January 12 2000         Volume 01 : Number 003



(dr) [DR350] - What about the DR400z ?
(dr) Re: (dr350) Suzuki Canada
RE: (dr) [DR350] - What about the DR400z ?
Re: (dr) Re: (dr350) DR650 - Stalling
(dr) Re: (dr350) Suzuki Canada
RE: (dr) [DR350] - What about the DR400z ?
RE: (dr) [DR350] - What about the DR400z ?
RE: (dr) Switching to the DR list...
(dr) DR650 pages...
(dr) Mid-term grades...
(dr) dr650...Ventura Pack System
(dr) RE: (dr350) sat for month won't start
Re: (dr) DR-350 Seat for Touring
Re: (dr) DR-350 Seat for Touring

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:06:51 +0100
From: Tim Bosseloo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) [DR350] - What about the DR400z ?

Hello list,

Anybody already had the occasion to ride the new one ?
What are your impressions ?
Don't you think the price is too high now ?

Tim - DR350

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:08:12 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (dr) Re: (dr350) Suzuki Canada

In a message dated 01/10/2000 5:38:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< www.suzuki.ca >>

I couldn't get the page for the DRZ400SY. It just wouldn't load.
What I really want is to dress up my '99 dr350se with black plastic like the
Canadian model. Looks like I need side panels, fenders and the light shroud.
Any ideas of where I can get them?

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:27:57 -0800
From: "Guy Schneider" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) [DR350] - What about the DR400z ?

The DR400z should be called the DR400L - for late.  I sold my 350 in Nov.
expecting them to be released in Dec. as originally suggested by my dealer.
They have yet to show but I did finally get word from American Suzuki, after
personally demanding to speak to the VP NA Sales, that the bikes are in Los
Angeles now, will be allocated to dealers this week and will show up in the
showrooms next week.  I would imagine that every bike is already spoken for
so you should see the bikes out and about real soon - at least here on the
Wst Coast.  The DRZ400 and DRZ400E are the first to be released with the
DRZ400S showing up in March.

All information I have read (which unfortunately is not much) is very
positive.  Additionally, I have had the privilege of speaking with Rodney
Smith about the bike and he loves it.  Suzuki has hired Mike Kudrowski out
of retirement to race the bike in the GNCC series.  Like all new products, I
am sure it will take a year to work out the bugs but I think Yamaha has
paved the way and this bike should be a good one out of the blocks.  I have
heard it produces 48HP out of the box.  I have also not heard very many good
things about the suspension other than they took the suspension of a 97
RM250 - I don't know if this is good or bad?.  Specs indicate the kick start
version will weigh 248lbs. and the electric start version 262 lbs.  I have
also heard the the electric start version will offer a kick start kit for
about $250 so you can remove the starter.  The kick start version will not
be convertable.  It has been really frustrating because the dealers either
have no clue about these bikes or have been instructed not to talk until
they are released.

Regarding cost - this is the least expensive bike in its category.  A Yamaha
WR400 will run you $6700 out the door and are tough to find.  A KTM 400SXC
will run about the same.  The Honda XR400 is about the same price as the DR
($6000) but its air cooled and will likely be decommissioned next year by a
water pumper.  A good used DR350 will run about $2500 but when you add a
pipe, a Vortex box, suspension work, carb jetting, sprokets and new tires,
your into it for $4000 min and its still a 350 with a rapid declining value.

The net result, I should have not sold my 350 until the 400 arrived that way
I wouldn't be riding the pine during the best time of the year.  For those
who love to turn the wrench as much as they love to ride (me included) the
350 will remain a shop favorite for a while longer and so this may be your
best investment.  For me, if the 400 dosn't show next week, I am going out
and buying the WR because I just cant wait for that electric start model any
longer.

Regards,

gts

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]On
Behalf Of Tim Bosseloo
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 12:07 PM
To: dr mailing list
Subject: (dr) [DR350] - What about the DR400z ?


Hello list,

Anybody already had the occasion to ride the new one ?
What are your impressions ?
Don't you think the price is too high now ?

Tim - DR350

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:45:41 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (dr) Re: (dr350) DR650 - Stalling

In a message dated 00-01-11 11:35:59 EST, you write:

<<  Also, the hose was filled with gas when it was disconnected which seemed
suspicious.  Something cheap to try. >>

The gas in the hose forms a very effective seal, preventing the vent from
venting, just like the p-trap under your sink. If the vent don't vent, the
gas don't flow into the float bowl. Routing the vent hose down will allow all
gas in the line to clear out and keep the vent open. The usual way for gas to
collect in the vent line is by doing a series of jumps.

Don Sprinkle

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:51:06 -0700
From: "Shayne Seefeldt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Re: (dr350) Suzuki Canada

Try > http://www.suzuki.ca/en/bike/dr350se.htm


I just saw all the info there on the 400 even though the web address is dr
350!!!

To get the fenders and others in black call Blackfoot Motosports at
1-800-665-6735 or long distance at 1-403-287-9318. I don't know if they can
help but they are a "Mega Dealer".

Shayne.

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>From: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: (dr350) Suzuki Canada
>Date: Tue, Jan 11, 2000, 2:08 PM
>

> In a message dated 01/10/2000 5:38:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << www.suzuki.ca >>
>
> I couldn't get the page for the DRZ400SY. It just wouldn't load.
> What I really want is to dress up my '99 dr350se with black plastic like the
> Canadian model. Looks like I need side panels, fenders and the light shroud.
> Any ideas of where I can get them?

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:24:45 PST
From: "Arne Larsen"<[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) [DR350] - What about the DR400z ?

>I have also not heard very many good
>things about the suspension other than they took the suspension of a 97

I read somewhere that the front fork tubes are 49mm.  That's 11 more than my
KLR!  The front and rear are also supposed to be almost infinately adjustable
for a really tailored fit.

The Canadian MSRP is in the $6900 ballpark.

Arne... curious in Canada
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:42:58 -0800
From: "Guy Schneider" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) [DR350] - What about the DR400z ?

Thats good!  Thanks.

gts

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]On
Behalf Of Arne Larsen
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:25 PM
To: Guy Schneider
Cc: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (dr) [DR350] - What about the DR400z ?


>I have also not heard very many good
>things about the suspension other than they took the suspension of a 97

I read somewhere that the front fork tubes are 49mm.  That's 11 more than my
KLR!  The front and rear are also supposed to be almost infinately
adjustable
for a really tailored fit.

The Canadian MSRP is in the $6900 ballpark.

Arne... curious in Canada
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:30:19 -0800
From: Doug B <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) Switching to the DR list...

I received your money order today and will mail the pack tomorrow (1/12/00) via USPS mail if this is OK by you.

Doug

- -----Original Message-----
From:    Wayne Marsula' [SMTP:[e-mail]]
Sent:    Monday, January 10, 2000 12:58 PM
To:    [e-mail]
Cc:    DR350
Subject:    Re: (dr) Switching to the DR list...


>
> I've set up the new account and will begin to double-check its readiness by
> cross-posting for a few days...
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> Kurt Simpson
> List administrator

No Kurt,
      Thank YOU! I for one, and I'm sure many others, really appreciate
your hard work on the list.
      Hopefully EVERYONE will use the subject line to denote which model
their message is specific to. If not specific, just don't put any model.
Wayne Marsula'
Escondido, CA

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:52:01 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) DR650 pages...

Here are a couple of pages with good info on the DR650:

http://prcarter.home.mindspring.com/dr650set.html

I mailed Mr. Carter tonight and asked him to join our group. Notice his experience with dynojet
and factory kits...his conclusion is the Factory kit is the way to go....

Linda is in South America on her DR650 with her husband Jeff, send them an email:

http://www.aracnet.com/~anspach/

Kurt Simpson
Salt Lake City


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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:00:27 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Mid-term grades...

Jeff and Linda have posted mid-term grades on their equipment used in their South American
ride. KLR = 96 out of 100; DR650=95 out of 100...whaat? I'm prejudiced now...I said goodbye to
Oingo Boingo tonight (sad)...

http://www.aracnet.com/~anspach/interimproduct.html

Kurt


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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:44:48 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) dr650...Ventura Pack System

Another luggage option for the DR650...

http://www.ventura-bike.co.nz/english/fitments/display_picture.asp?fitment_id=335

Kurt


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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:02:23 -0000
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gu=F0mundur_P=E9tursson_S=EDmst=F6=F0vardeild=2E__?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stj=F3rn_og_rekstrarmi=F0st=F6=F0=2E?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) RE: (dr350) sat for month won't start

I have DR 350 off road ( kickstart )
When i have not rided my dr for some time I start with laing it down on the
side for ca. 15 sec., and let the fuel flow out of the carb. ( old fuel ),
then i raise the bike up agin and wait for a moment ( 1-2 min. )
then i kick it and it always lights up very soon, maiby in 10 kicks.


Best reegards,

Gu≡mundur PΘtursson
Switching tecnician / Mobile

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Simpson [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: 11. jan·ar 2000 16:49
To: Heston LaMar; DR LIST
Subject: RE: (dr350) sat for month won't start


> Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to ride my 350 for the last
> month.  Yesterday, I charged the battery all day, then went out to start
> it w/ choke wide open.  Plenty of charge, but would fire.  Switched
> petcock to prime w/ choke still wide open -- cranked-up for just a
> second, then died.  Tried every combo of choke, prime, fuel on & fuel
> off afterwards but wouldn't crank again.  Ran battery down trying (damn,
> I wish I had a kickstart too -- need the exercise).  Any ideas anyone?
>
> Heston
> 94 350SE

some folks have luck with draining their fuel bowl and filling it with fresh
fuel via
prime...

Kurt


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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:48:47 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (dr) DR-350 Seat for Touring

Corbin makes a very comfortable seat for the Dr350. It is significantly wider
than the stock seat but narrow at the front so that it doesn't interfere with
your ability to stand on the pegs when necessary.

John f.

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:45:08 -0800
From: Wayne Marsula' <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) DR-350 Seat for Touring

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Corbin makes a very comfortable seat for the Dr350. It is significantly wider
> than the stock seat but narrow at the front so that it doesn't interfere with
> your ability to stand on the pegs when necessary.
>
> John f.
>
Hello,
    Do you, or anyone on the list, have personal experience with a Corbin
seat on their DR?
    I have heard many things about lack of quality.
Wayne Marsula'
Escondido, CA

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