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The inconsistency of propaganda logic.

Posted by: Siamak ( UK ) on September 19, 1997 at 14:57:49:

In Reply to: The [ideal] function of the state posted by Mike Bednarz on September 18, 1997 at 09:57:38:

: And I suppose anarchy-socialism would last for a very long time, huh?

Maybe, maybe not. It all depends on the will of the people and of course how deep rooted the capitalist brainwashing of the general public is.

By the way, I can't work out why all American-influenced capitalist appologists associate anarchism with socialism. Just think about it, even your own capitalist proaganda identifies socialism with tight social and economic control. Whereas anarchism is defined as a "no-rule" system. So it does not make sense to associate the two systems in this way. The urge to absorb the cold-war propaganda has obviously blinded you to the inconsistency of its logic!

: The [ideal] function of the state in my fairly libertarian view is only to protect the rights of individuals, to Insure more ristrictive governments don't come into being, and to offer justice in court via jury of our peers. No military (citizens "militia"), no national education, road ways, or housing (all would be privitized).

Go on. Dream on....

: It would be unconstitutional to meddle with the capitalism, thus business would lose much intrest in campains and spending would regulate itself just like the rest of capitalism.

So this is a libertarian view of capitalism is it? Give capital unrestricted freedom to exploit the working people. Do not meddle with monopolies, cartels etc. when they fix prices to rub the consumer. Let industries build anywhere they wish and dispose of their waste anyway they want and polute the planet as much as they want. The libertarian view of this kind is very similar to that of Milton Friedman's which inflicted so much atrocities in Chile after the American-backed coup d'Θtat of the early 70's which overthrew the elected government and initiated a blood bath in that country.

Now Mr "libertarian" capitalist, tell me what happens if there is an irreconcilable conflict between workers and capitalist. Whose rights is the state going to protect? The same goes for conflict between expantionaist capital and local communities who don't want their environment to get poluted by the encroaching industries. Do you think the individual local residents should be protected against the unfettered capital or not? And who is going to provide protection for them? presumably your private police force? But who pays the police? Could be the capitalist or the local prople. Or both may have their own privately owned police force to protect them. In which case the two forces could clash if negotiations don't get anywhare. Extend the scenario to the whole globe, and we could be living in the state of constant war under your preferred system.

As you can see my friend, your libertarian views are more akin to "anarchism" than any socialist theory could be.

: I'm glad Mark da Cunha made this informative Rand/Capitalism site.

But Mark was clever enough to let somebody else answer my reply to him. perhaps he had anticipated somebody will bring up the inherent inconsistencies within his theory which would complicate things for him.


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