: : And I suppose anarchy-socialism would last for a very long time, huh?: Maybe, maybe not. It all depends on the will of the people and of course how deep rooted the capitalist brainwashing of the general public is.
: By the way, I can't work out why all American-influenced capitalist appologists associate anarchism with socialism. Just think about it, even your own capitalist proaganda identifies socialism with tight social and economic control. Whereas anarchism is defined as a "no-rule" system. So it does not make sense to associate the two systems in this way. The urge to absorb the cold-war propaganda has obviously blinded you to the inconsistency of its logic!
I can't win! If I say "communism" you would think I have been exposed to so much cold war propaganda that I don't even know Russia was a command-communism bearing little resembalence to what people wrote about communism. Becouse on this forum, Fassbinder and others regard socialism as a stepping stone to true (anarichist) communism, I thought it would be less confusing to call it "anarchy-socialism" showing that a socialism had 'graduated' to anarchy and was a communism. If I had said "communism" In that statement, you would have given me the usual diatribe of how brainwashed and ignorant I am by confusing "Stalinism" with communism. But It didn't work anyways becouse people like you love to argue over a single detail in a phrase-- as Fassbinders advice he gave to "Quincunx"; take a few words that show capitalism "brainwashing" or falacy of thought and chop it to peices.
: : The [ideal] function of the state in my fairly libertarian view is only to protect the rights of individuals, to Insure more ristrictive governments don't come into being, and to offer justice in court via jury of our peers. No military (citizens "militia"), no national education, road ways, or housing (all would be privitized).
: Go on. Dream on....
I would say something about social/communism right here...
: : It would be unconstitutional to meddle with the capitalism, thus business would lose much intrest in campains and spending would regulate itself just like the rest of capitalism.
: So this is a libertarian view of capitalism is it? Give capital unrestricted freedom to exploit the working people. Do not meddle with monopolies, cartels etc. when they fix prices to rub the consumer. Let industries build anywhere they wish and dispose of their waste anyway they want and polute the planet as much as they want. The libertarian view of this kind is very similar to that of Milton Friedman's which inflicted so much atrocities in Chile after the American-backed coup d'Θtat of the early 70's which overthrew the elected government and initiated a blood bath in that country.
: Now Mr "libertarian" capitalist, tell me what happens if there is an irreconcilable conflict between workers and capitalist. Whose rights is the state going to protect? The same goes for conflict between expantionaist capital and local communities who don't want their environment to get poluted by the encroaching industries. Do you think the individual local residents should be protected against the unfettered capital or not? And who is going to provide protection for them? presumably your private police force? But who pays the police? Could be the capitalist or the local prople. Or both may have their own privately owned police force to protect them. In which case the two forces could clash if negotiations don't get anywhare. Extend the scenario to the whole globe, and we could be living in the state of constant war under your preferred system.
: As you can see my friend, your libertarian views are more akin to "anarchism" than any socialist theory could be.
Yes but the courts would continue to exsist... passive anti-trust laws could exsist if carried out by the peoples jury. Aditionally Unions of all kind would protect the people from those corporations. Also bear in mind that the self-regulating aspects of capitalism would be in full force; nobody makes you buy or work for any particular entity so If you don't like what a company is doing, take your business elsewhere-- I'm sure many other companies would love you to.
: : I'm glad Mark da Cunha made this informative Rand/Capitalism site.
: But Mark was clever enough to let somebody else answer my reply to him. perhaps he had anticipated somebody will bring up the inherent inconsistencies within his theory which would complicate things for him.
Mark knew better than to talk to you.
