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- WeenieFest '92: A Meeting With John Markoff
- Co-Author of CYBERPUNK: Outlaws and Hackers on the Computer Frontier
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- "Boston Computer Society General Meeting, Wednesday, January 22, 7:30pm.
- Katie Hafner, co-author with husband John Markoff of _Cyberpunk_, talks
- about computer ethics [ya, right] and computer crimes. _Cyberpunk_
- details the stories of three computer hackers: Kevin Mitnick, an expert
- phone phreak, who carried his hacking to obsession [isn't that a perfume?]
- and addiction-wreaking havoc [holy SHIT!] with computer networks and
- top-secret research; Pengo, from Germany, who penetrated US military
- computers and sold information to the Soviet Union; and Robert Morris,
- a Harvard and Cornell graduate, who released a virus [WORM!] program that
- crippled thousands of computers on Internet. This discussion may change
- how you think about computer accessibility [sure changed MY life..jeesh]."
-
- That's how the advertisement appeared in the Boston Computer Society's
- UPDATE mag (without my bracketed snide comments, of course). Knight Lightning
- informed me of this meeting via electronic mail, and I read it the DAY it was
- happening. I had read about half of the book CYBERPUNK, and I know most of you
- have already checked it out. Yes, it is a piece of shit. A great deal of the
- info is *fabricated*, and the authors attempt to explain hacking as a "social
- disorder"...on par with juvenile delinquency.
-
- True, a lot of hacking is just kids screwing around, but there is MORE to
- the scene than just that. What about the violation of civil liberties going on
- by the federal government and its agents? What about privacy on the nets?
- What about the REAL DRIVE behind most of the hacking going on today... the
- search for TECH KNOWLEDGE? These topics were NOT covered adequately in the
- book.
-
- Seeing this meeting as a GREAT opportunity to grill Ms. Hafner and to hear
- what members of the BCS had to say, I attempted to quickly mobilize the entire
- RDT crew into attending. Alas, I was the *only* person able to make it. "What
- the hell," I figured, "I'm sure there'll be plenty of other people there who'll
- make the discussion lively and *heated*." Boy, was I wrong...
-
- For starters, Ms. Hafner was unable to attend. Instead, her husband and
- co-author, John Markoff showed up. I had never been to a BCS meeting before,
- and figured that the members would be relatively intelligent about computers
- and computer ethics. Well, about 80 people filled the lecture hall, and ALL of
- them were older than me (and I'm 24 by the way). Looked like mostly yuppie
- trash ("Gee, I just bought this 486...I wonder what it does. Guess I'll join
- the BCS!") and some old professor-types. Suddenly, I felt a chill...
- *Weenie-alert* Two bozos behind me were trying to discuss how to write an
- MS-DOS CONFIG.SYS file:
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- "Bob, my computer is all messed up. Doesn't work."
- "Gee, well, maybe you need one of those set device equals things!"
-
- NOTE: ALL quotes are REAL...Yes, truth is stranger than fiction...
-
- Oh well...Finally, John Markoff came on-stage looking a lot like Dustin
- Hoffman. He started out by talking for 15 minutes on the definitions
- of "hacker," "cracker," and "cyberpunk." This is when my migraine started (a
- small throbbing pulse in my left temple). He discussed the origin of the term
- "cyberpunk" and made MANY references to *BILL* Gibson. Guess he wanted to
- stroke himself and make his "personal" relationship with Gibson known to all.
- Then, he talked in DETAIL about how HE figured out who set loose the Internet
- worm. "I told them to 'finger RTM'... and the name Robert T. Morris popped
- up." Boy, some SERIOUS tech wizardry going on there. Markoff patted himself
- on the back for about 10 minutes more. He also seemed proud of his dealings
- with Cliff Stoll (as he plugged THE CUCKOO'S EGG about 5 times). Stroke,
- stroke, stroke. He seemed really *proud* at having discovered all this info
- about the computer underground (even though his book is ONLY about *THREE* case
- studies!!!).
-
- "We wanted to get inside these cultures..."
-
- Well his book was basically just a REPORT of WHAT HAPPENED (not even
- factual half the time)... NOT about the CULTURE... NOT about what really made
- these people tick... NOT about what REALLY ATTRACTS people to the computer
- underground. He was just a *reporter*, looking for a scoop. Nothing more.
-
- After describing his book, he opened up the presentation to discussion.
- The FIRST question was by some BCS dork:
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- "Do you know anything about the printer-ROM virus used in the
- Iraqi computer systems?"
-
- I got a sick feeling in my stomach. Markoff talked about this for 10 minutes
- with comments by other BCS members thrown in. ARRRGH. Anyway, the NEXT
- question was a real winner:
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- "What about those computers that took the Turing test recently..
- did they pass? Could you explain what a Turing test is?"
-
- So maybe the BCS people WERE NOT that up on things. Maybe none of them read
- the book. Maybe none of them have ever read Phrack or 2600. Maybe ALL of them
- have their heads shoved up their butts?
-
- Finally, I made my move. I asked him:
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- "What do you think of the punishments given to convicted 'cyberpunks'?
- Do you think they're fair? What about seizure of equipment without
- charges, taking examples from Operation Sundevil?"
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- Markoff: "I think the government is just using scare tactics. It's a shame
- that equipment is seized. It's unconstitutional."
-
- Yep, that is all he had to say about it. No comments on the POLICE STATE
- that's evolving on the nets. Nothing about what's being done to *protect*
- computer users' free speech. Next question of mine:
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- "What do you think really drives 'cyberpunks'...how 'serious' do you
- think the *crime* of *hacking* is?"
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- Markoff: "It's just juvenile delinquency. Most of it has nothing to do
- with tech wizardry. It's mostly con-artists. I hope there is
- a 'fad element' to this cyberpunk thing. Hopefully they'll
- grow out of it."
-
- Yeah, this guy certainly has his damn FINGER on the PULSE of the
- underground. We're just a bunch of delinquent, juvenile con-artists. We'll
- grow out of it. Really. Man, I was steamed. What he said was full of
- *half-truths* leaving out IMPORTANT things, like the drive for exploration of
- highly complicated networks and machinery, but I wasn't going to pick a fight
- with this guy. I calmed down and asked the next question on my list:
-
- "What do you think of publications like Phrack and 2600? How do you feel
- about the E911 bust that tried to suppress Phrack?"
-
- Markoff: "I don't buy their 'exploration' excuse. I don't want people
- testing the locks on MY computer. It's just juvenile delinquency."
-
- How insightful. Completely ignored my question about the E911 affair. So
- much for understanding the underground. Ya, we all read stuff like Phrack
- and 2600 JUST so we can FUCK UP things.
-
- ***ONE interesting thing he mentioned was that MOST hacker-related crimes
- are INSIDE JOBS. Trusted people working on the INSIDE. Well, that was the
- ONLY thing he said that I totally agreed with. At least Markoff isn't trying
- to start a "Cyberpunk Witch-Hunt"...not like OTHER people (i.e., Geraldo, Don
- Ingram, etc.).
-
- This gets REAL funny now. Other BCS members seemed to have NO interest in
- talking about hacking/phreaking/civil liberties/hacker ethic/etc. ONE guy
- asked:
- "Is piracy a big problem in the US?"
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- Another asked:
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- "Do pirate bulletin boards still exist?"
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- Some *insightful* BCS member said:
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- "Yeah, but it's dangerous. Lawyers call up and check to see if you
- have copyrighted software. You can go to jail for it!"
-
- Markoff: "Yes, piracy is still rampant. I can't give you any numbers
- <cheesy smile here> but I know many exist."
-
- BCS member responds:
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- "You mean I can just call a number and get Pagemaker for free?"
-
- At this point, I vomited violently..at least my BRAIN did. Many other
- stupid questions were asked, but I won't torture you further ("What about the
- IBM/Apple merger?"...that sort of thing). I managed to get in ONE LAST
- question:
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- "What do you think of 'reformed cyberpunks'...for nstance, the security
- consulting company 'Comsec' formed by ex-LOD members?"
-
- Markoff: "I think that any company that hires them should know what they're
- getting into. I'm skeptical. *I* wouldn't hire them."
-
- You should know that at this point MOST of the BCS dorks laughed out loud,
- in annoying, weenie-like chuckles of mirth. It took all of my strength not to
- get up and crack skulls. So much for intelligent discussions. Actually,
- throughout MOST of the meeting, people were laughing for no apparent reason.
- Guess they knew something I didn't?
-
- In the final analysis, the meeting confirmed my suspicions that Markoff is
- just a reporter trying to make a buck. Cashing in on half-truths. Not at all
- interested in the "cyberpunk's" point of view. Not interested in the ETHICS
- and MORAL RAMIFICATIONS of hacker busts. He's just reporting the "news." At
- least he wasn't trying to stir up a "witch-hunt"...but then again, he isn't
- contributing much to the awareness of the underground and what it "really"
- means...hacking is NOT a sickness...it is NOT something to "grow out of"...
- it means freedom of speech...freedom to explore (to an extent..heh) and the
- DESIRE to explore. MUCH more than juvenile delinquency. I hope someone writes
- a book from that perspective someday.
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- I also got an insight into the BCS community. Clueless. Need I say more?
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- I hope you enjoyed this file. Look for more "Special Reports" in the near
- future.
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