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- │/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/┌────────────TABLE OF CONTENTS:──────────────┐\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\│
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- │/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/│1. Introduction - RBCP │\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\│
- │\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\│2. The 618 Scene: Chatterbox BBS │/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/│
- │/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/│3. The 618 Scene: The Hit Man War │\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\│
- │\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\│4. The 618 Scene: Hack-Phreak Scene of 618? │/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/│
- │/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/│5. The 618 Scene: Miscellaneous │\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\│
- │\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\│6. How To Piss Off RBCP - by Colleen Card │/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/│
- │/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/│7 What People Are Saying About The PLA │\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\│
- │\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\│8. This Issue's Total Loozer Award │/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/│
- │/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/│9. This Issue's Featured Support Sites │\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\│
- │\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\│10.Classifieds Section │/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/│
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- │ Completed On August 8th, 1995 │
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-
- Wow, this PLA issue is going to be a doozie. As usual, longer and even more
- meaningless. First of all, I want to inform everyone of the little change the
- stupid bastards at the voicemail company in Austin made. They totally changed
- voicemail software (no longer the easily hacked Aspin) and relocated their
- offices to downtown which meant, without warning, my voicemail number changed.
- This all means, of course, that my plan of having a permanent number that
- wouldn't change for a long time went out the window. Even for me, being a
- "valued" customer of over seven months, they wouldn't refer the calls from my
- old number to my new number. So, the new PLA Voicemail number is 512-703-8910.
-
- I finally got my brand new shiney fridge magnet from Roy, New Mexico the other
- day, direct from their gift shop! They even sent back my change (in cash) and
- they sent back the stamps I had enclosed for postage. (The magnet was a little
- smaller that I'd anticipated.) They also included their business card and a
- receipt with a hand written note on it, "Thanks! We enjoyed doing mail order
- business with you!" Thank you, Cactus Flower Gift Shop! I feel so cool...
-
- In the past few weeks, I've been doing a lot of bbsing in the 618 (Alton, IL)
- area. I don't know WHY I started calling around there, but I did and you're
- about to be treated to a four part series about the total lameness of that
- entire area. I encourage anyone who lives there to MOVE OUT before it's too
- late! Get ready to meet the PHREEKER scene of 618... As well as the christian
- bbs scene and a few hillbillies. First, we bring you the Chatterbox BBS...
-
- ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
- │ The Chatterbox │
- └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
-
- Welcome to ChatterBox BBS!
-
- \\\\l////
- ( O O )
- ----oOOo---U---oOOo----
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- Last people who decided to call:
-
- Number Handle Language Time Date Speed ##
- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════
- 3916 Hit Man #103 Hillbilly 14:30 07/31 14400/LAPM/V.42bis 3
- 3917 Zensless1 #80 English 14:39 07/31 14400/LAPM/V.42bis 4
- 3918 Morbid Death #34 English 15:42 07/31 2400 1
- 3919 Captain Picard #97 Valley 16:22 07/31 14400/LAPM/V.42bis 1
-
- Auto message by: Chatty #1
- ***************************
- Nice day, isn't it?
- ***************************
-
- * Welcome New User to ChatterBox BBS *
-
- You have connected to ChatterBox BBS !!! It is located in Belleville,
- Illinois which is just east of St. Louis. Our phone number is (618) 277-8040.
- We thank you for calling us and hope you find this board to be useful and
- entertaining! We offer online games, email, message bases, and a complete
- file area.
- Please feel free to use all of the time you are given. There are
- NO FEES and NO RATIOS, and only a few rules. Below is a disclaimer of
- legalities and rules for the board. READ THEM, but don't let this get in
- the way of having a good time and using the resources of the board. These
- rules can be followed easily by using common sense and being tolerant of
- others. If you have any problems please feel free to email me and let me
- know.
-
- 1) NO swearing, cussing, or offensive language! [<-- Isn't all of that
- 2) NO pornography or X-rated material! the same?? -RBCP]
- 3) The golden rule is the supreme rule of the board.
- (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!)
-
- Follow these rules and we can ensure a good quality board for
- everyone. Anyone disobeying these rules will be punished by having their
- access to this system denied. The systems operator of the board has final
- say in all disputes. The SysOp also holds the right to deny access to this
- system to anyone that does not comply with these rules.
-
- Thanx, your SysOp
- Chatty
-
- Welcome to ChatterBox BBS.. I hope you like it here,
- we have a few on-line games, and more on the way...
- We have a few files, right now, am busy working on getting
- the games working.. I hope you like the board.. Feel free
- to look around.
-
- YOU WILL be VOICE validated, before your
- access will be raised.
-
-
- A.) You MUST give your FULL name, address and phone #
- before validation. This MUST be Your REAl name, REAL
- address, and your REAL phone Number.
-
- Absolutely NOBODY will be validated unless they give
- a Voice Number where we can Call you back and Voice
- Validate you.
-
- B.) State where you got this #.
-
- C.) Give 3 peoples names on boards that we can contact that
- will tell us info about you, and if a sysop, what board
- they are a sysop of.
-
- Anyone not answering these three question, will NOT BE VALIDATED
- and possibity of being deleted. Anyone NOT leaving Feedback with
- the required info, will be deleted Automatically.
-
- But if you answered these correctly you will be voice validated
- and if it is the right #, your access will be raised..
-
- Thanx for your time...
-
-
- That is, more or less, what you see when you log onto Chatterbox BBS. The
- ChatterBox Incident has to come first, even though all this started with the
- Hit Man incident which is next in the series. It started when Hit Man needed
- my home phone number in Texas so he asked the sysop of Chatterbox for it and
- it was given to him. Just a few weeks before all this, Zak had logged on to
- this bbs using all of my info which I had given him permission to do. The
- sysop, being extremely paranoid of everything (he's a christian), always voice
- validates everyone, so Zak was using my info so he could get an account just
- to cause trouble there. Zak has a habit of using my alias when he causes
- trouble, as many sysops in 618 can testify.
-
- A little about Chatterbox...It's run by fifteen year old, sligtly overweight
- Amanda Eyer, whose goes by the alias Chatty and her DAD, Scott Eyer, who goes
- by the alias of Scott The Believer. It's one of those bbses where you're not
- allowed to say any cuss words, not allowed to express your views because they
- may differ from the sysop's and of course you're not allowed to express any
- disbelief in the existance of some guy named God. When I called there, I
- uploaded a GIF of the bible being used as toilet paper (which should be
- included in this archive, by the way) and I made some innocent little post
- about Jesus being dead.
-
- Anyway, this didn't make either one of the sysops happy and both of them spent
- the day praying and calling up all their brothers & sisters of the church to
- get a group prayer for me going or something like that. It turns out that I'm
- not the only courrier for satan that they've dealt with in the past. Nobody
- likes them, their both always getting harrassing mail, their bbs has been
- hacked and the user list (names & passwords) been downloaded and distributed.
-
- Apparently, Chatty was gullible enough to give someone the access to view the
- user list and he/she captured it and distributed it everywhere. I would
- include it in this file but it'd be pointless because all the passwords have
- been changed and if you want a user's phone number, all you have to do is
- e-mail Scott The Believer for it and he'll give it out, no problem. Oh yeah,
- that's what I was getting at. Scott gave my home voice number to Hit Man and
- this whole shebang started up. Ah, but first you have to read some private
- mail from The ChatterBox, just to get an idea of how lame they really are...
- First here's an amusing piece of mail from Chucky #91 to Chatty #1, written
- on Monday, July 3, 1995:
-
- I say well, because I tried to page you and you must be asleep. Today was
- great. Though my work is still cut out ahead of me. Played volleyball at
- longacre for about 4 hours had fun. And things made me think.
- Just standing there and seeing so many people. There were so many people
- on the courts you couldn't see the sand, it was packed. However though there
- were tons oh people having fun, laughing [Cand screaming I noticed things. On
- one court there were around 12 blacks and no whites. On the other court there
- were 6 whites and no blacks. Side by side there they were all having fun, but
- not true interaction. Each side played their games and had fun.
- Standing around I noticed there were only two watching, out of around
- about 50, that were mixing. My and another black girl. Every now and then I
- looked at the blacks staring at me in wonder, and I even got the sane looks
- from the whites too. But the most beautiful thing I noticed that GOD was
- watching too. Though I felt a bit worried that one of the two races wou
-
- [Somehow the rest got cut off...The next mail is from an irate user.]
-
- To.......... Chatty #1
- Title....... Well
- Pirate: Iam Death #4
- Date: Mon Jul 03 00:17:27 1995
-
- Then just delete all of us becouse I could care less about being on your
- board. I also want you to stop calling my house, and all of my friends.
-
- [And now you're about to see how Scott The Believer treats all of his
- users and how paranoid their family really is. The following are
- responses Scott left to New User Feedback...]
-
- To.......... Gif Master #60
- Title....... Humm....
- Pirate: Scott The Believer #5
- Date: Wed Jun 21 22:43:52 1995
-
- Who the heck are you? You say you are Jason, but when we called Jason's phone
- number, he said he NEVER called here.
-
- So, who are you? You are not jason, so who are you and WHY would you call in
- and say you were hm, HUH?
-
- Scott The Believer
-
- To.......... Demonchild #46
- Title....... HI
- From: Scott The Believer #5
- Date: Mon Jun 12 06:09:48 1995
-
- RE: DEMONCHILD
-
- »My name isDEMONCHILD I wish to join your bbs.
-
- Well, hi there. The newuser letter said that you were to give me your REAL name
- here, not your handle. AND in the info about you it asked for your handle
- first, then it asked for your FULL real name, and you and your "Brother is it"
- just gave your real first name and not your FULL name. I asked Vertico to tell
- me what his real last name was, but he didn't do it. MAybe he didn't even read
- my mail, or didn't know how to answer back to me. To reply back to this letter,
- when it comes to the system prompt, just hit "A" for Autoreply to the author,
- and you will be replying to my mail. ALSO, to end and send a mail, after you
- write one, just hit return (Enter) to get to the begining of a NEW line, and
- then type /S to save your mail/letter/post. If you have any questions, just
- E-mail me.
- Scott The Believer
-
- [Scott was probably just freaked out about his alias or something. Here's
- a few comments that were made in general private mail:]
-
- To.......... Markus #17
- Title....... well,
- Pirate: Scott The Believer #5
- Date: Mon Jun 19 05:58:09 1995
-
- »Thanks my friend. Are you going this weekend to Promise Keepers? I'll talk to
- »you later.
-
- And no, I am not going to Promise Keepers. I am just not to hip to that
- movement. I think it just pumps you up, fires you up, but really don't give you
- any real value for Christian Living. Case in point, Rick Taylor. Came back from
- there last year, really fired up, wanted everyone to go. Then for about 6
- months I never even saw him in Church, then maybe they came once a month for
- awhile. Now look at them, up and quit the whole Church. I am just not sure PK
- is all it is cracked up to be......
-
- To.......... Lestat #76
- Title....... humm...
- Pirate: Scott The Believer #5
- Date: Sun Jul 02 07:59:35 1995
-
- »umm.....I think it was two days ago.. you got me in chat...
- »that wasn't me it was my sister. I am not usually that hostile. Sorry if she
- »angered you..
- »:)
- »Lestat
-
- Well, I see you still have that line noise, huh? NO, I wasn't angry, and I
- didn't cut you off, I guess that call waiting or line noise finally got the
- best of our comm programs, cause it cut us off automatically.
-
- No problem here, I just couldn't figure out why I was getting a ring, ring from
- your phone. I should have gotten a busy signal. See, the problem is that we
- have a VERY hostile user here that we deleted a couple of months ago, and she
- is still trying to call in under fake accounts. That is why I was checking to
- see if you were calling from your phone, I am too cheap to get caler ID. :)
-
- [And the hostile user in question, of course, is Martini. Scott's big
- security thing is calling up a user while they're on the phone to see
- if the phone is busy, just to make sure it's really them. Since a lot
- of people don't want to tie up their phone, they get booted off when
- Scott does this. So that's what their private mail looks like. After
- I was deleted, I logged back on to ask why. Here's what I wrote and
- also the responses that I got from both Chatty & Scott The Believer.]
-
- Title:
- Enter message now, max lines are 30
- Enter '/HELP' for help.
- [---=----=----=----=----=----=----=----]----=----=----=----=----=----=----=--]
- Why'd I get deleted? Well, maybe that's not really the issue here. What I
- really want to know is why did you give out my personal home phone number?
- When I first logged on here I used my real information thinking that you
- wouldn't give it out to everyone but I guess I was wrong. Was I deleted
- because I wasn't home when you called my girlfriend? I'm sorry, I was bbsing
- at a friend's house. I had no idea that wasn't allowed on here.
-
- I guess it'd be best if you forwarded this to Scott The Believer since he's
- probably mostly responsible for all this, from what I hear. I just want you to
- know that I don't appreciate any of this. It should also interest you that I
- happen to have YOUR home voice number and could give that out to plenty of
- people. Did you know that the guy you gave my number to threatens to fly down
- here and kill me all the time? If that were to actually happen, do you think
- that Scott would be legally responsible for my death? I think so.
- /s
-
- [And the responses...]
-
- Chatty #1 forwarded your mail to Scott The Believer #5
- Scott The Believer #5 read your mail on 07/31/95
-
- (1/2): Well...
- Name: Chatty #1
- Date: Mon Jul 31 07:33:49 1995
-
- RE:
-
- »happen to have YOUR home voice number and could give that out to plenty of
-
- Welll.. For your information, I already know that you have my #...
- I'm not stupid, I know who is all involved in a plot against me. But I'm not
- worried. I don't apprecaite users loggin' you in as a new user ( referring to
- posts made on Martini's board, oh.. You thougt I'd never see them, I have. )
- and you have no clue...... Well.. I have to say I also don't think it is in FCC
- regelations to give out any other users information on a post, or anything.
- They are trying to contact FCC, I know this for a fact, as he is my freind. No,
- He doesn't have access to my user log, and no, he won't ever. I made that
- mistake once with giving a guy that info, and someone loging on as him and
- getting all the info.. Alright, so if I didn't give him the #, he would have
- gone and got it from someone else.... Trust me, he knows how. I'm NOT sorry I
- am freinds with him. He's a nice guy, if you are on his good side, I'm just
- glad I am. And I wish that Martini, and everyone else wasn't mad at me, I make
- an effort to try and be nice to all of my users, but she broke a rule, and was
- in violateon of FCC. I also have to add, that I let my dad handle that, so she
- WOULDB'T get mad at me. I'm sorry I gave your #. And I'm sorry you were
- deleted, but I was given the explination that it was because there have been
- people logging in as your name. And yes we know who it was. I do read messeges
- on martini's boarde.... I'm not as dum as everyone thinks.
-
- °·. ⌠⌠ .·°
- °·. ▐@h▐D┼┼▐X .·°
-
- [I've since changed my home phone number and the last four digits are
- the initials of a well-known phone company. Get my new number, Greg,
- it's a challenge.]
-
- E-mailing Chatty #1
-
- Title:
- Enter message now, max lines are 30
- Enter '/HELP' for help.
- [-=----=----=----=----=----=----=----]----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----]
- Go back and read that message you sent me. Not one word of it made any sense.
- Learn how to spell.
- /s
- Saving...Mail sent to Chatty #1
-
-
- (2/2): MAN<
- Name: Scott The Believer #5
- Date: Mon Jul 31 17:17:37 1995
-
- And just how did you get that number? From our users list? Humm?
- Hey, our home voice number isn't unlisted, anyone can pick up a phone book and
- get it, BIG DEAL! You think you are giving out privedledged info, or something?
- NOT! Having our phone number isn't anything, BUT making crank, obsene calls is
- ILLEGAL, and we are getting them, so we have called the FCC in Washington to
- see what can be done to go back thru the phone records and catch whoever is
- making all the calls. And to trace all new incoming calls also. We will catch
- whoever is responsible.
-
- As for you being deleted, YES, I did that. For several reasons. 1: Stupid posts
- you made concerning GOD. 2:Stupid GIF you uploaded. 3:hanging up on me when I
- pulled you into CHAT last nught. 4:Posts you made on Martini's board asking
- what you could "DO" to Chatterbox. 5: Post you made giving out Hitmans info on
- Martini's board. 6: The main reason, your association with the PLA! That right
- there was enough for me to delete you, I just deleted 2 other members of the
- PLA from here too. As soon as you read this, you will be deleted again, and we
- turned on NEWUSER PASSWORD so none of you can log back on as NEW. You are not
- welcome here, your association with Martini the JERK and your stupid posts on
- her board has seen to that. Good-bye and good ridence....
- Scott The Believer
-
- [And when I try to respond, Scott chat's with me!]
-
- Chat mode entered. You are chatting with Scott The Believer...
-
- [ME:] I bet it'll be a major inconvience for the new users with that NUP on
- here. That's funny.
-
- what is so funny about it?
-
- I think you're lame. Will users still be able to log on if your phone line
- were to somehow disappear?
-
- how will our phon line dissapear?
-
- Oh, I don't know. If you piss off God he may disconnect service. What's so
- bad about the PLA?
-
- I think he is getting mad now
-
- [And he dropped carrier on me. Imagine that. While all this is going
- on, Apok0lyps has been coming through will flying colors, capturing
- most of these posts, getting debates and voting questions started,
- and (him being the only one with an account on Chatterbox) having
- a lot of conversations with Scott The Believer. The issue being
- debated mostly, was did Scott have the right to give out my info.
- Here's a message that he posted on Roy's Place...]
-
- 6/7: ok..
- Name: Apok0lyps #3 @1
- Date: Mon Jul 31 09:13:08 1995
-
- I got a question for everyone. When you go to your doctor, he/she and you
- have a sacred trust called the doctor/patient relationship. This means that he
- can't/won't discuss ANYTHING about you with anyone else without your
- permission.
-
- The same things go on with you and your laywer. The only persons he can
- discuss your case with is other officers of the court, and they are required by
- LAW to keep what they hear a secret.
-
- Now we all know that these things get broken from time to time, but at
- leaset there are penalties in place to punish those who break these trust. So
- my question is as follows: Shouldn't a sysop be bound by the same set of rules?
- At least the ones a laywer uses. Your personal information is a very precious
- comoditity(sp) and when you entrust it to someone, you expect them to honor
- your trust. What should happen to those who violate those trust??
-
- Now stop and think of this situation: A sysop tells you you MUST leave
- correct info, and you will be voice validated. You want access to his system,
- so you comply. He KNOWS your information is correct, and you are allowed on.
-
- Next, I say you are making harassing phone calls to me, so I call some
- sysops looking for your phone number/real name. I finally stumble across one
- who will tell me. I call you make threats. But the catch is you were never
- making those calls to me. I just wanted your info. It may only work once with
- that sysop, but once is enough to ruin one life.
-
- So now, go back to the voting booth and cast your vote what should happen
- to a sysop that would violate YOUR trust.
-
- [Here's a couple of replies to Apok0lyp's mail from Scott...]
-
- (2/2): Legalities?
- Pirate: Scott The Believer #2
- Date: Tue Aug 01 20:22:49 1995
-
- Here is a legal question. RBCP called me, thinking I would answer the phone, it
- was the 2nd time he had called, I did answer it the first time. BUT the second
- time, I let my answering get it. BOOM, he called back in 2 minutes and played a
- tape of WHAT my answering maching said, Which means he RECORDED it! And if I
- had answered it voice, he would have been recording me, WITHOUT my consent.
- WHAT DOES the LAW say about that, HUH? If you are advising him, you may want to
- talk to him about it. I am keeping that tape for any future possible needs.
- Just in case this don't just END now peaceably. I am in favor of that option,
- how about you?
-
- [In this reply, Scott is replying to his new & improved answering machine
- greeting which goes something like this: "Hello! WARNING! This call is
- being TRACED by the phone company as we speak. (stutters) It is also
- being recorded, copies of which are being furnished to the FCC so please
- speak clearly so we can hear every word you say...(beeeeeep!)"]
-
- (1/2): Thank you,
- Pirate: Scott The Believer #2
- Date: Tue Aug 01 20:12:34 1995
-
- I am glad you think I can be trusted cause I am older and a Christian. I really
- don't think what I did was that wrong, I am sorry it has gotten blown out of
- proportion tho. It's not like I gave the number to someone I don't know either,
- I know greg, he was at my house Sunday night and picked Chatty up to play
- Volleyball. He was NOT a total stranger I gave that number to.
-
- BUT I saw the post where you claim that HITMAN posted his address and his phone
- number, and it was NOT his correct address or phone number. If you have it,
- please pass it to me, cause I don't believe it till I see it. We read all the
- posts (AND captured them) and I didn't see his correct address or phone number,
- except in RBCP's post. AND I still believe he got it from MY users list. AND he
- is calling up here too, against your legal advise. He listened to my answering
- machine, AND then posted what my machine said on Bogus Journey. that is really
- lame, he IS calling my house and Greg also. All I can say is that it had better
- not go on much longer, or I am calling the police. This is the stupidest thing
- I have ever seen. In all my years of BBSing, I have never seen such babies
- trying to cause trouble. AND RBCP posting my mail to him and my CHAT MODE with
- him on Martini's board is just as lame, BUT I guess that is legal too, huh?
- Maybe I should just go post ALL the PLA's phone numbers and address's in open
- posts on all the board I can, huh? That would be fun, right? yea. AND that post
- about Satans BBS, 2 gigs of Adult files, then MY VOICE number, that just about
- takes the cake. I want to know if you think this whole mess is about to END or
- it is really going to take calling the police in to end this stuff? What do you
- think? Is it about over? What do you think will end it? Just want your thought
- on this issue.....
-
- (2/2): Wow,
- Pirate: Scott The Believer #5
- Date: Sun Jul 30 23:48:18 1995
-
- I guess this thing with Martini not liking the Chatterbox and Amanda, and the
- fact that she forced us to delete her from this BBS has finally gone over the
- edge. Whatever Greg did, it did NOT warrent the PERSON who stole our users list
- to post his information in an open post for all to read. That is going WAY too
- far in my opinion, and very may well be illegal. I am sure the harrasing phone
- calls are illegal. Anything I could do to help him get to the bottom of it, I
- would have done for anyone including you if someone did that to you. AND I HOPE
- he does get to the bottom of it, and the police catch the person responsible.
- In the meantime, let me say this. I will try to keep your info as secure as
- possible, but I can't guarntee your privacy. If the same situation came up, but
- he had needed your phone number to call and see if it was you or a faker that
- had done that, I would probably give him your number for him to call and get to
- the bottom of it all. I can NOT guarentee that I will never give your number
- out, it would depend on the situation. So if you want to stay on, it is ok, and
- if you want us to delete you, thats ok too, no hard feelings either way. But I
- can't tie my hands by promising something that I can't keep. I will just say
- that I will try to not give your info out, it would have to be a good reason
- for me to do that. So you let me know what it is to be, and we will take care
- of it. We almost shut the board a few weeks ago because of user problems, and
- that is still a possibility, so it may not matter anyway, huh?
- Scott The Believer
-
- (1/1): Humm...
- Pirate: Scott The Believer #5
- Date: Tue Aug 01 06:17:59 1995
-
- what about closed systems that only allow certain people access? How do they do
- that? Are you saying we MUST allow anyone on as a user, weither we want to or
- not? If I called Martini's board, she would be required to let me on as a user?
- I don't know about all those legalities, yes, If I refused to let someone on
- just because they were Black or Japeneese, I would probably be sued for it. BUT
- I do know that RBCP was deleted for posts and actions he did here, for his
- attitude about this board. ZAK and Zensless1 both TOLD me to delete them unless
- I could guarntee then 100% security, that I would NEVER EVER let out their
- info. They asked me to delete them if I could not guarntee that, so I did
- delete them at their request. You on the other hand, I have NEVER had a problem
- with, so even tho you are PLA, you are welcome here. I only delete a user that
- I have a real problem with and then only after I warned them about it. But you
- don't have to worry, I have had NO problem with you.
-
- But I would like to know one thing. Why is it so wrong for me to give out a
- to post a users info like he did in an open post? Where did he get that info
- for one thing? And why is it ok to post that in an open post, yet I get raked
- over the coals for giving out 1 phone number to 1 user? What about systems that
- have 20 co-sysops, that all have access to the users list? So would it have
- been alright if I just made hitman a co-sysop, and gave him access to ALL the
- users info? I just don't understand this, it is beyond me how everyone thinks I
- did something wrong. I see nothing wrong with what I did, BUT I see all kinds
- of wrong with RBCP posting info in a post. I just don't get it....
- Scott The Believer
-
- (1/1): Redbox...
- Pirate: Scott The Believer #5
- Date: Mon Jul 31 06:22:53 1995
-
- Well, there is other factors that you don't know yet about Redboxchilipeper. We
- have always considered his account VERY suspicious. Calling from texas, then he
- wouldn't give us his voice number to validate him for NOTHING 2 months ago. so
- we deleted him then. NOW 2 months later he calls and freely gives us his
- number. I heard he posted a post on Martinis board asking what he could "DO" to
- the chatterbox BBS. Yesterday, he called our board, made some rather rude post
- concerning GOD, saying he is dead, etc, Uploaded a GIF showing a toilet with
- the Bible being used as toilet paper, knowing we are Christians, he was trying
- to get under our skin, IF IT WAS EVEN HIM CALLING. See, we still consider his
- accound a possible fake account. While he was on-line, I called his data phone,
- busy. BUT immediatly when we broke contact, it was still busy. Was it him,
- possibly not. So I called his voice number, got his wife. She said RBCP wasn't
- home, and that he does all his BBSing from his house, so it wasn't him, but
- someone else calling in using his name. Probably the same person who stole out
- user list. when he was on-line, I pulled him into chat too, as soon as he saw
- that I was wanting to talk, hd immediatly hung up on me. NOW after all this
- went on, then hit-mans story about redbox posting HIS info in a post, hey, I
- didn't feel very concerned about keeping his phone number private. AS a matter
- of fact, I deleted him from our system. And I really don't feel bad about
- giving Hitman his phone number, sorry if you feel I did the wrong thing.
-
- As for our user list being an inside job, you are partially correct. We think
- it was ripped off by "A Girl" who started dating a Guy. This guy was on our
- board, good friend of Chattys, and had a 255 access. She had several friends
- who she had given 255's to. well, this Girl logged on as this Guy, cause she
- had found out his password to get onto the system. Once on as him, with a 255,
- she got the users list. Simple as pie. NOW NOBODY has a 255 but Chatty and me.
- And we have proof that they were calling in as other people, using our users
- list to log in as whoever they wanted to, and stir up trouble. Heck, they even
- tried to log in as ME and Chatty, using our Passwords that were ONLY in that
- users list, except we changed them. I tell you what, weither we shut this bbs
- down or keep it running is still up in the air. How far hitman's problem goes
- may deceide that for us. AND we have also been getting phone calls at Midnight,
- and 3 AM, hang-ups, alot of them, and we are thinking of calling the phone
- company and let them trace them. This whole thing is really stupid, and my wife
- has had about al that she will take of this crap. It might turn ugly, who
- knows. But I still say that I can't promise total security for your info, but I
- will use my discression as to who would get it, and it would have to be a darn
- good reason, fair or not?
- Scott The Believer
-
- [Ha, my WIFE?? That'll be the day. (He talked to Colleen Card.) Anyways,
- during all the conversing, Apok0lyps convinced Scott that perhaps a
- public apology would put a stop to the harrassment.]
-
- Date: 4:23 am Wed Aug 2, 1995 Number : 121 of 121
- From: Apok0Lyps Base : Private Mail
- To : Redboxchilipepper Refer #: None
- Subj: apology Replies: None
- Stat: Normal Origin : Local
-
-
- Ok, after some masterful calls, I convinced STB that the harassment should
- stop, provided he APOLOGIZES to you and the PLA, and also agrees to NEVER give
- out a users info without that users consent.
-
- Now, if you ask me, I think Scott has seen the error of his ways
- (halajueia brother, ok I can't spell it) and should be left alone. But good
- ole Greg.....well, he (IMHO) could apologize all day and get no mercy.
-
- It was cool, I told STB that he would most likley get harassed day and
- night for a long time unless he said sorry. He figured it would "just go away
- in time" but I told him all about Chris Tomkinson and he then replied with
- "well, what do you think I should say in this apology?" :) He was gonna mail
- it to you on Roy's Place, but I told him a PUBLIC POST on his board would be
- much better. It's in you xfer section. CYA
-
- apok0lyps
-
- [And the following appeared in Chatterbox's System Annoncements sub...]
-
- < Q-scan And The Sysop Now Speaks 1 - 4 msgs >
-
- 4/4: Apology!
- Pirate: Scott The Believer #2
- Date: Tue Aug 01 22:40:53 1995
-
- Chatty and I want to apologize to Redboxchilipeper for what went on this week.
- We gave out his home phone number to another user, and being new sysops didn't
- realize that we were doing a great injustice. Looking back, we see that we
- should NOT have given it out, and we will never give out any user info without
- their consent FIRST. Of course our user list had been hacked and is all over
- the area anyway, we didn't think it was that bad a thing to do. BUT we are
- sorry this happened, and we will never do that again. Hope this satisifies the
- PLA, RBCP, and anyone else who had doubts about our security. As of NOW, Chatty
- and I are the ONLY 2 who have access to the user list, and it will remain that
- way. Security will be tight from now on.
-
- Sorry RBCP........
-
- Scott The Believer
- And Chatty
-
- [1] [And The Sysop Now Speaks]
- Read:(1-4,^4),? :
-
- [My reply to it...]
-
- Fine, apology accepted, and a good move on your part, as well as mine, I
- guess. I suppose that I'll apologize for the anti-religeous comments and GIFs
- I uploaded to your system then. I promise you that I will make a point never
- to call your bbs or your voice number again. From everything I've heard,
- though, a lot of people don't like you because you're both so big brotherish
- about the way you run your bbs, so if you receive annoying calls, be assured
- that they're NOT from me or Zak or any other member of the PLA.
-
- One thing I think you didn't realize while rattling off my unlisted home
- phone number was that Mr. Carson who's such a fine citizen on your bbs, has
- been threatening to fly down to Texas, find me, rape my girlfriend and shoot
- me. While I know he's probably all talk and in reality works the graveyard
- shift in a crappy motel, that's not exactly the type of person I want having
- my phone number. The day after you gave it out, Greg started calling me and
- threatening me every time he received a prank call. I hate to break this to
- Greg, but I'm not the only one who hates him. Anyway, I'm rambling, have a
- nice life without me in it anymore. You should take off that NUP because
- that's really a hassle for legitimate users and I heard some weirdo a few
- years back got nailed to a tree for suggesting a NUP.
- Peace,
- RBCP
-
- [And that's more or less the end. The next day I called up Bogus Journey,
- one of the few cool boards in 618, to see this public post by Chatty.
- Or was it STB? They use the same accounts...]
-
- 48/50: hey RBCP
- Name: Chatty #178 @6851
- Date: Tue Aug 01 19:02:10 1995
-
- You are the cool one, aren't you. I had a guy tell me you wasn't making any
- Voice calls to Illinois, guess he was wrong, huh? I guess it really takes
- something simple, stupid and pathetic to entertain you, huh? We got capture
- files from Martini's board, and here. Really boring reading, I must say. Too
- bad you (and the rest of your PLA losers) don't have a life.....
-
- Scott The Believer
-
- ßogus Journey ßßS
- (618)656-7266 23½ Hours/Day 14.4k WWIV 4.23
- IceNet @6851 TAZnet @6863 TerraNET @6863
-
- [Sometime during all this Zak, who at the time still had a valid account
- on Chatterbox, left feedback to Scott saying, "Somebody just called my
- house and hung up on me! Can I have your user list?" and he got deleted
- for it. Also, a few other users (Zenzeless?) were deleted because they
- told Scott if their security couldn't be guaranteed on that system,
- they didn't want accounts there.]
-
- I really meant what I said about not bothering Scott anymore, by the way.
- Since he was smart enough to make a public apology, I suppose I can respect
- that enough to leave him alone. He will continue to be harrassed daily,
- though. Not because I'm encouraging or doing it myself, but because of the way
- he treats people who call there. There's nothing I can do about that. So
- Scott, lighten up a little. As Colleen Card keeps pointing out to me, Scott
- didn't apologize because he was sorry, he apologized because he was being
- harrassed and wanted it to stop. Oh and if anyone ever wants to give the
- Chatterbox BBS a call to talk about good, wholesome, christian and family
- values, you can reach their bbs at 618-277-8040. And of course you shouldn't
- ever harrass these people because they have the power of the lord behind him.
- And although I would never give out their home voice phone number in a mag
- that's distributed nationally, you could probably dial 618-555-1212 and ask
- directory assisstance for Scott's number in Belleville and they would give it
- to you, but I wouldn't encourage that either.
-
- ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
- │ The Hillbilly of 618 │
- └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
- In the above section you heard alot about a guy named Greg Carson aka The Hit
- Man and how he was so hard up for my home voice number. (It's been awhile, by
- the way, and he still hasn't used all of his amazing resources and money to
- get my new phone number.) About 75% of the 618 users don't like Greg. It
- started in a post where he started going off about how much money he had, how
- nice of a house he had and the nice cars and job he had. I THINK that's how it
- all started, I'm not really responsible for this war, I just contributed a lot
- to it. I never got around to doing a public records search to see if he really
- owned all these amazing toys or if his rich daddy just bought it all for him.
- Of all the posts to lose, I lost that one and I'm too lazy to go look for it,
- but here's a bunch of other posts to give you an idea of the whole story. Keep
- in mind that this guy is supposed to be 21...
-
- 31/78: come on BABIES
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Sat Jul 22 12:42:31 1995
-
- You dont Know anything about ME! Before FUCKING with a PRO go look me up
- I will be waiting with FIREPOWER and wont be the first person I SHOT!
- yes think what you want BUT I REALLY am CRAZY!!! Ill FUCKING KILL YOU!
- Open your mouth and put it on the sidewalk and then stomp the back of
- you head ank kill you! I am laughing at this!! I LOVE IT! COME GET ME
- I have been BORED for so LONG-Get everybody you can more for my 2 Dogs
- My rottweiler will love it!
-
- SEE YOU BABIES AROUND
-
- 29/78:
- Name: Zak #4
- Date: Sat Jul 22 03:16:12 1995
-
- If the hit man keeps it up, I;ll just have to *32 him.
-
- 32/78: Hey, asswipe
- Name: Stormhawk #8
- Date: Sun Jul 23 14:39:36 1995
-
- You think you're so cool, just because of what you have, not because of what
- you are. I respect people, not possesions. When you prove yourself worthy of
- being respected, I MIGHT respect you. By the way, large dogs don't scare me,
- can you say PEPPER MACE?
- and also, I'm infinitely more mature than you, lose.
-
- 37/78:
- Name: Redboxchilipepper #11
- Date: Mon Jul 24 23:53:41 1995
-
- Hit Man, I'm in Texas and can mess up your life just as well as anyone in
- Illinois. Will your rotweiler gallop down here and bite my ass?
-
- 38/78:
- Name: Zak #4
- Date: Tue Jul 25 02:06:11 1995
-
- He's rich, remember he can afford to hire a rotweiller in texas to go bite you.
-
- 40/78: OK
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Tue Jul 25 20:09:23 1995
-
- RE:
- BY: Redboxchilipepper #11
-
- Im am getting scared! Blow me awAy-Kill me-It wont phase me! Because you wont
- do a FUCKING thing you Loser!!!!
-
- Again I will repeat myself- BRING IT ON! or just SHUT THE FUCK UP
- Show me your actions not your Pathetic WORDS!!
-
- 42/78: Hit Man
- Name: Maynard #19
- Date: Wed Jul 26 00:15:43 1995
-
- Is that man sane?
- Guess he has lots o faith in his dog.
- Hey, maybe his dog will pay his phone bills!
-
- 43/78: Ok DICKHEAD
- Name: Pepsi-Man #32
- Date: Wed Jul 26 04:42:38 1995
-
- RE: Hit Man
- BY: Maynard #19
-
- You dont know about The Real Greg Carson reputation Do you people?
- He shoot someone in Cahokia about 3 years ago... A part of a gang in
- O'fallon which the cops could hardly break up. So many friends that he
- never had to do any fighting. His friends did all the deeds untill one
- stud make fun of his brohter-He shoot that bastard! WEll thats the
- O'fallon rumor. As for that number its a HOTEL... I guess he sure
- got you guys!
-
- 46/78:
- Name: Zak #4
- Date: Wed Jul 26 09:12:10 1995
-
- Yes, he really got us. I REALLY put faith in a number he posted himself. Hey,
- Hit Man, i can shoot a chololate chip off the tip of your weiner from 100
- yards! so ha!
- hey butthead, gangs are cool or something. huh uhh yeah
-
- 48/78:
- Name: Zensless1 #13
- Date: Wed Jul 26 14:19:16 1995
-
- RE: OK
- BY: The Hit Man #27
-
- I shouldnt sayt anything and just let you go into debt for the next decade of
- yourlife but you really dont wanna fuck with Zak or RBCP cause they will
- seriously fuck your little world over....
-
- 49/78:
- Name: Redboxchilipepper #11
- Date: Wed Jul 26 16:58:27 1995
-
- Maybe we should give Hit Man Jack The Ripper's phone number. JTR used to have
- the same attitude towards us.
-
- 54/78: Some more
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Thu Jul 27 19:25:06 1995
-
- Did you read that post! See how stupid it is, REALLY! Just do it!
- Blow up my house?Fuck my wife?into debt because of Zak or RBCP?
- Just do it! Heres your point to show all of us in BBS Land what you
- are made of! Come on pussy! Will that give you some more reasons!
-
- 63/78: no hard feelings.....
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Sat Jul 29 01:15:53 1995
-
- I want to ask a question though....WHO IS RBCP AND ROY? And who is THE PLA?
- I just would like to know....Well I guess I will see you all around...
-
- 66/78:
- Name: Zensless1 #13
- Date: Sat Jul 29 09:44:28 1995
-
- You will find out soon enough....
-
- 69/78: let's see..
- Name: Apok0lyps #5
- Date: Sat Jul 29 10:41:04 1995
-
- You scream and yell, threaten everyone here, and people are supposed to
- tell you where/invite you to their party?? I think not. Disturbing shit is all
- fine and well, but noone wanting you around them is the price you pay.
-
- Oh well, gotta sleep, had days keggin on the morrow.
-
- 70/78: You
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Sat Jul 29 16:38:17 1995
-
- You are the ones calling me names! Bring your threats to reality!
- You are the ones who invited me and now will not tell me where it is!
- Just like kiddies, ALL TALK!! Keep on talking, I guess you guys are
- good at it. I got work to do-Month End-Be back when it slows down!
-
- 71/78:
- Name: Redboxchilipepper #11
- Date: Sat Jul 29 22:50:39 1995
-
- Hitman, read the issues of PLA and you'll have a pretty good idea of what's in
- store for your future. And then some.
- Name: Redboxchilipepper #11
- Date: Mon Jul 24 23:55:04 1995
-
- So, somebody post Hit Man's info so I can get te remote access call forwarding
- set up and going to 1-900-999-GINA.
-
-
- 7/21: la la la
- Name: Master #23
- Date: Wed Jul 26 00:49:01 1995
-
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- RN : Greg Carson
- Strt: 140 Ludwig Drive
- City: Fairview Hts, IL 62208 (USA)
- PH : 618-398-7124
- Datp: 618-398-7189
- Age : 21 M (12/18/73)
- Comp: Other
- PW :
- Last: 07/25/95 07/18/95
- Msgs: P=31 E=4 F=5 W=5 D=0
- Log : 20 0 I=0
- UpDn: U=0=0k D=0-0k
- Baud: 14400
- SL : 60
- DSL : 60
-
- Uedit :
-
- [That was the information that Hit Man put in his account on Martini's BBS.
- After finding out that Greg Carson had put down his real work number, I
- gave directory assisstance a call to get his home phone number, got some
- other basic info, turned it into an ANSI and posted it a few times...]
-
- ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
- │ │
- │ ┘ │ │ / │ Phone Losers of America Special Report ┘ │ │ / │ │
- │ ┌──┘ │ ┌── │ The Greg Carson Fan Club Newsletter! ┌──┘ │ ┌── │ │
- │ ─┘ ───┘ ─┘ ─┘ July 30, 1995 ─┘ ───┘ ─┘ ─┘ │
- │\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/│
- │ Work Information: Home Information: │
- │ Fairfield Inn Greg & Carolyn Carson (wife)│
- │ 140 Ludwig Drive 34 Concord (he OWNS it! :) │
- │ Fairview Heights 62208 Fairview Heights, IL │
- │ 618-398-7124 or 618-394-1774 │
- │ 618-398-7189 │
- │ He works there in the mornings. Other Information: │
- │ When he's not working, annoy Hitman's brand of computer is a │
- │ the boss & other employees Smith & Wesson, his wife is extremely│
- │ $59.95 a night/single? Ripoff! overweight and wears hair curlers, │
- │ his wrotweiler's name is FiFi and │
- │ STAY TUNED FOR MORE UPDATES WHEN WE Greg likes to put on leather and │
- │ GIVE AMERITECH A CALL TO REVEAL ALL take him for walks. │
- │ OF HIS PHONE ACCOUNT INFORMATION!!! │
- └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
-
-
- 73/78: Alright Free Advertising
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Sun Jul 30 14:22:13 1995
-
- Yes The Fairfield Inn by Marriott in Fairview Heights! Go stay, WEll I guess
- you POOR boys cant stay there! WEll there is the trailway motel in Fairview
- for you!
-
- 77/78:
- Name: Zak #4
- Date: Mon Jul 31 02:57:58 1995
-
- Nice fucking try hit man. We love you! You've been victimized by the PLA!
- Oh yeah, tomorrow, I'm carding a room at the Fairfield Inn and I'm going to
- steal a towel..
-
- 8/21: Personally,
- Name: Martini #1
- Date: Wed Jul 26 01:04:47 1995
-
- I don't know why he thinks he is so cool... Oooooh wow, a $60,000 house,
- yipee, our house cost $220,000. He's probably just trailer trash bull
- shitting his way around to boost his ego. Most likely he has low self esteem
- and calling people childish names, and other frivolish words makes him feel
- strong, so just let him do his little thing. People get their kicks in
- awkward ways. Although his isn't awkward, it's just flat out pathetic. Hey
- hit man, you should go to this party coming up on Saturday, then see how tough
- you are... It's just an invitation, not a threat.
-
- Name: Redboxchilipepper #11
- Date: Wed Jul 26 17:02:00 1995
-
- Bring your gunz, hit man, you hillbilly!
-
- Name: Spastic Chicken #2
- Date: Sat Jul 22 11:56:19 1995
-
- shut up you stupid, harmless, low-life fuck...
-
- 4/28: HA HA HA
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Sat Jul 22 13:23:32 1995
-
- Look at yourself-Your the STUPID LOW-LIFE!!!!
- Find me please and then have a 9mm hole in you!!!
- NO I would rather you desroy something and then have you ASS
- thrown in Jail-That would be KICK-ASS! Yeah thats my Plan
-
- 5/28: Question for all My loves
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Sat Jul 22 13:27:28 1995
-
- Does anyone else like PISSING people off? I love it- Making people so MAD
- Getting under there skin, Knowing that they are being plotted and talked
- about in ways to hurt him(me)I love it that you all are being so kind and
- talking about me. I bet you all get together and say-Lets blow his cars up,
- destroy this, hurt him-I got insurance-I also have friends-Yes me The
- biggest DICKHEAD! I have loyal friends! Thats why I am the HIt Man!
- Thats is why I am An Asshole to......WELL ASSHOLES!
-
- Respect is earned NOT GIVEN!!!!
-
- 7/28: Play with myself
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Mon Jul 24 14:25:04 1995
-
- I will repeat again-HOw old are? I am only 21-ok 21
-
- I am very proud of myself! I have went through more changes with my lifestyle
- in 5 months that it will take you 10 years!
-
- So you see YES I am cool! You know it! The Elite(you will always think of me)
-
- 9/28: good
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Tue Jul 25 20:21:03 1995
-
- Good Im waiting! YOu people should stop before it gets out of hand!
- I will shoot you! Dont Fuck your life up because of me! Chill out!
-
- Fucking LOSERS!!
-
- 10/28: Heh, I'm laughing at you..
- Name: Martini #1
- Date: Wed Jul 26 01:08:31 1995
-
- Posting that, is a very big mistake, on your part. The stupidity of some
- people overwhelms me. Please, keep going, you entertain me like no other can
- possibly do.
-
- 13/28:
- Name: Redboxchilipepper #11
- Date: Wed Jul 26 17:03:02 1995
-
- Are you going to fly down here and shoot me, Hit Man? I'll give you my
- adress.
-
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Thu Jul 27 19:45:37 1995
-
- I will be coming down there in about 2 or 3 months ok E-mail it to me!
-
- 17/28: Where is the party
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Thu Jul 27 19:47:36 1995
-
- I need to know where the party is! I hope I can get on here to find out
- where it is....I could not get on long enough the other days to read a
- anything. Just kept logging me off, Sorry about after the 10th time you
- get sick of trying.
-
- Try and call back later on Friday to see where the party is..
-
-
- 18/28:
- Name: Zak #4
- Date: Fri Jul 28 11:38:54 1995
-
- Right? You think we're gonna tell you where the party is after you're showing
- your iq as 12 and being manly and threatening to shoot people in the butts?
-
- 4/15: Welfare SUCKS
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Thu Jul 20 22:58:55 1995
-
- Section 8 housing to be specific! One of my friends has a 250,000 dollar
- house but cant sell it even at 125,000 and was willing to get rid of it
- to me for just what he owes(around 89,000) Down with them all!!
-
- 16/20:
- Name: Redboxchilipepper #11
- Date: Wed Jul 26 17:04:28 1995
-
- Yes, he certainly does have friends, he just has to loan them all money to
- keep them. Nobody will be his friend unless he takes them out to eat and buys
- them stuff.
-
- 17/20: Sure
- Name: Dark Shadow #14
- Date: Thu Jul 27 03:04:09 1995
-
- why not, after all, "Big Bad Hitman has lots of money. Hit man can buy life."
- uh, huh, "Taz hate Water!!" too...
-
- 6/11: Digging my grave
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Sun Jul 30 15:20:37 1995
-
- I just keep digging myself a bigger hole everytime I call-I just will have
- to be stopped by some force! A big box of pepper should do it! HA Ha Ha
-
- See I just cant stop! What should I do? I need help! No one can do anything
- about it! I am who I am! An Asshole to Assholes!
-
- My job is to PISS you all off and I think I will have to retire after this
- job....I am doing to good of a JOB!!!
-
- 9/11:
- Name: Redboxchilipepper #11
- Date: Sun Jul 30 18:50:40 1995
-
- By the time it's over (will it ever be over now?) the Hit Man will be sorry
- that he started all this. You don't really NEED that bank account do you, Greg?
-
- (1/1): Hello
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Sat Jul 29 01:58:47 1995
-
- What did I do? I just would like to hear it from your own words,
- Please be honest-dont say because your an Asshole, Fuckhead...etc
- I want to know what I did! Why are YOU so mad, or maybe your not mad
- but what did I do that was so bad? I did not brag, everyone was telling
- me I was cool so I agreed and showed them how cool I was. Whats wrong with
- that?
-
- Wheres the party? My dogs are tough tho, but a gun does do a better job!
- Wheres the party? no one will tell me!
-
- [I guess finally he'd had enough and asked Martini to delete him...]
-
- (2/2): Delte me
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Sun Jul 30 19:58:16 1995
-
- I want to be deleted!
-
- [But she didn't delete him and the war just kept going on...]
-
- 34/35: You know..
- Name: Martini #1
- Date: Tue Aug 01 18:29:59 1995
-
- You guys want to know how much of a man hit man really is? He says, go
- ahead, i'd like to see you fuck with me. Then everyone fucks with him, and he
- runs to the police or FCC who ever and crys. No only that, but he is so much
- of a man, he had his wife call my house. Not him his WIFE. HAHAHAH, that's a
- real man if I've ever seen one.
-
- 37/39: crys
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Sat Aug 05 12:31:04 1995
-
- I wasnt crying, My wife called you on her own! I wasnt even there.
- See I want you to realize something-Every action has a reaction!
- Did you think I would stand by and do NOTHING! I dont have anything against
- the PLA or anyone of you BBSers. You did something and I did something.
- I am not going to do anything else, I should act my age and not bring myself
- so low. Yes I was being immature. So what-You are doing the same thing,
- but thats not right, I will stop and I have stopped. I just want you all to
- realize that.
-
- C-ya
-
- 38/39: No..
- Name: Martini #1
- Date: Sat Aug 05 20:51:41 1995
-
- I wasn't being immature. I was not pranking you, or chatty or whoever. I
- don't know how your lovely wife even got my number, I don't know why your wife
- even had anything to do with me. Of course she didn't. But I think she's
- very manly. Especially when she hung up on me.
-
- 39/39: She isnt here
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Sun Aug 06 07:39:34 1995
-
- Shes not here to defend herself but I dont know what went on. Whatever
- happened already happened. Its over, who cares. Life goes on.
- -She told me you hung up on her- Whats it matter Martini-forget it
-
- 33/34: ok Let me clear some things up now
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Sat Aug 05 12:20:08 1995
-
- The people I saw on welfare where drinking outside there house and would
- be up at midnight drunk walking the streets. NOt everyone on WElfare is
- doing it but some are. Another thing I did work for a farm(Keller farms)
- and would 10 hour days. Horse Radish fields, hay bails, etc... Also
- I know what hard work is! I was in A Bootcamp for 4 months where I chopped
- down trees for 8 hours-I got blisters at first but not after a few weeks
- of it. Hard work got me to where I am today! Making you all mad was that
- one part I still need to work on, I like pissing people off and it is
- a part of me I dont like, It may
-
- 34/34: It may
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Sat Aug 05 12:22:39 1995
-
- Getting too long....It may have something to do with my job, Always being
- nice and hearing people bitch all the time but I am who I am.
- Well I guess I will talk to you later. C-YA
-
-
- [Notice a slight change in attitude from just a few weeks. You can feel
- him beginning to break down... For some reason, Hitman kept e-mailing
- me as unknown. Here is a poor attempt at an apology by him in private
- e-mail on Bogus Journey...]
-
- (1/1): No Im sont
- Name: >UNKNOWN<
- Date: >UNKNOWN<
-
- I mean no Im not! If someone came to my house they would be, but I never
- threatened anyONE! I want to say Im Sorry for whatever I did to YOU
- RBCP- Im sorry-ok-Im not looking for anything in return but I just want you
- to understand that I guess Im just too GOOD at the BASHING SUB-
- Boy did I piss somepeople off just by bashing them on a BASHING SUB!
-
- Well I guess I will talk to you soon.
-
- C-YA
-
- [He's not sorry, he's just sick of us harrassing is co-workers.
- And my reply...]
-
- [---=----=----=----=----=--=----=----]----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----]
- Private annonymous e-mail isn't good enough. A public post, preferably on
- Martini's BBS, at LEAST one paragraph long and apologizing not only to me, but
- Martini, the PLA(H) and everybody else you threatened.
-
-
-
- 40/40: so the hit man decides to finally call back...
- Name: Redboxchilipepper #11
- Date: Sun Aug 06 09:26:18 1995
-
- I thought he'd just contiune to be sneak and fool us by calling in as the
- Pepsi Man, but I guess not. It certainly is amazing how his attitude towards
- us has changed in just a few weeks. He can be as nice as he wants to now, but
- I still remember the posts that said, "FUCK YOU BABIES! Bring it on, I'll
- fucking shoot you all! You're all talk! You'll never do anything. You'll never
- get my info. I'm flying down to Texas to kill you both!" Hmmmm, should I show
- mercy? I think not. Have a nice life, Hitman. You know you're lucky that the
- Ameritech office is so busy lately and I'm too impatient to sit around on hold
- for you. But just wait... You made a major mistake.
-
- Perhaps a public apology, a few paragraphs long, similar to STB's would change
- my mind...
-
- 49/50: My conversation with Mrs. Hit Man.
- Name: Martini #177 @6851
- Date: Mon Aug 07 01:41:29 1995
-
- Mrs. Hit Man: I have a proof that you've been pranking me, blah blah blah,
- hacking bbses blah blah blah, 42 calls have orginated from your house telling
- me that my husband will pay, blah blah blah.
- Martini: go to hell
- Mrs. Hit Man: OH that's it, I'm calling the FCC NOW! (click)
-
- It was amusing.
-
- 50/50: who has 42 calls
- Name: The Hit Man #370 @6851
- Date: Mon Aug 07 17:24:22 1995
-
- I will not go to your level and prank you! If(And I am Saying IF)
- I did anything it would be to go to your house and shit on your face!
-
- Again it IF I did anything witch I wont-YOu are not worth my time anymore
- ok Budweiser! Hasta Manana
-
- Enter message now, max lines are 60
- Enter '/HELP' for help.
- [---=----=----=----=----=----=----=----]----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----]
- Nope, that's not it, Hit Man. It's not that you don't want to go down to her
- level, it's just that you know whatever you do will come back on you 100 times
- worse. That's really it, isn't it? You know, for supposedly being 21, you're
- not that bright.
-
- [Finally, on August 7th, he called my bbs under the false alias of
- Marlboro Man and we got to chat, face to face...]
-
- ME: Why?
-
- HM: I have no reason-just wanted to ask what yoyu where talking to me about
- earlier when I couldnt respond
-
- ME: I was just trying to annoy you but you put me on hold on two lines at
- once. That's never happened to me before.
-
- HM: I am sorry it gets busy around here-like right now I am on the phone with
- one of my guests
-
- ME: I could help you! I'll forward all of your calls somewhere else so
- somebody else can answer the phone for you. Deal?
-
- HM: Well I cant do that then I will lose alot ob business
-
- ME: No you won't, I'll talk to your customers for you! I'll get things
- straigtened out over there.
-
- HM: Ok sure no really I wish I could but it wouldnt be good,
-
- ME: Well, I like surprising people and maybe I'd do it anyways just as a
- surprise to help you..
-
- HM: Wow you will help me-WHY?
-
- ME: I'm a nice guy.
-
- HM: I am sure you are-but I got the wrong impression then-I thought you didnt
- like me?
-
- ME: Of course I like you. I just think you should go public with a big apology
- to everybody and that would settle everything!
-
- HM: Well I am not the only one that should be apoligizing then, What about all
- the bullshit eveyone else said, I was only responding back to them
-
- ME: Well, how about a big public apology to me then for threatening to fly
- down to Texas and rape my girlfriend and shoot me?
-
- HM: Ok I am sorry about that=-I went balistic for a min. That was over the
- phone
-
- ME: I know it's over the phone I still have the recordings. Anyways, I was
- saying a PUBLIC post apology and I might leave you alone, just like Scott.
-
- HM: You have me email-why not post it-You must have captured it
-
- ME: Of course, but it wouldn't be as personal.
-
- HM: ok I gotcha I will apologize to you personally, it wasnt a cool thing to
- do but as for everyone else they need to apologize to or I will just stop
- its over and done with but I will apologize to you public to show no hard
- feelings
-
- ME: On Martini's bbs too. And the other people who've bothered you have
- nothing to do with me. They can prank you, but I can send your calls to
- Sweeden or turn off your line or ship toilets COD.
-
- HM: I understand-pranks are no big deal I have *69 or traceing going on, wont
- work for you since your out of state but I can deal with it, I will say
- sorry to you and to your girlf=riend- also how did youu know this acout
- was me?
-
- ME: It was quite obvious. But the dead givaway was when you accidentally used
- the password UBITCH one day.
-
- HM: oh yes I remember, well I have so many I didnt know what I used, Good
- memory how did you know that password, Martini TOLD YOU- SEE that is
- bogus-for real
-
- ME: What's bogus? I have sysop access there.
-
- HM: Nevermind, I didnt know that, Nvermind- I see you got your own sub now
-
- ME: Of course, I made it myself this morning out of boredom. I have to go
- wax my shoes now.
-
- [Looks like he was about to go off about sysops giving out personal info
- and try to say I'm no better than Scott The Believer until I told him I
- had sysop access there. UBITCH is the password he used on Cocktail Lounge
- and he accidentally used it on his fake account on my board so that's
- what he was talking about there. A mere 15 minutes later, I called
- Martini's BBS to find the following public post...]
-
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Mon Aug 07 20:21:13 1995
-
- I want to apoligize to RBCP and his girlfriend for some things I said over the
- phone. I was having a bad day I guess and will publicly say IM Sorry. Also I
- want to say Sorry for some of the things I said to RBCP over posts. The
- Bashing got pretty heavy and I think it got out of control.
- Talk to you all Later
-
- [Here is what I replied with...]
-
- [───═─-─═────═────═────═────═────═────┼────═────═────═────═────═────═────═───]
- Ha, what a dork. He thinks it's that easy just because it was for Scott The
- Believer. That little chat session you had, Hit Man, was with my eight year
- old little brother and I beat him up for making you think that'd I'd actually
- ever leave you alone for a minute. Wait, I don't have an eight year old little
- brother so that must have been me.
-
- Nah.... I don't thinkthat apology sounded very sincere. I think not. Nope, Hit
- Man, you're in for a life of misery. Sorry, no soap. Maybe next time you won't
- be so stupid. I'll upload a copy of my chat log with Hit Man in it and the
- funny e-mail he sent me on here after he wrote this message so everyone else
- can enjoy it, too. He actually asked me to erase his info from when I posted
- it awhile back. Hmmmm, let me see if I can figure out the commands to do that.
-
- [Then, just to be mean, I accidentally post that ANSI again with all of
- his personal information on it. When I had first logged on there, I had
- gotten the this mail from Hit Man...]
-
- (2/2): ok I got one request
- Name: The Hit Man #27
- Date: Mon Aug 07 20:11:55 1995
-
- Please Delete my info posted on the 2 subs(or anywhere else you posted it)
-
- The HIt Man
-
- [And the Hit Man story has ended. Not exactly a good apology compared to
- Scott The Believer's, but hey, he tried, right? I really have no
- intentions of spending all my free time bothering this guy so Hit Man,
- don't worry about me unless I get REALLY bored. Apology not accepted, I
- just have better things to do. It's hard to believe all this shit happened
- in just a few weeks... (Five bucks says nobody is still reading this
- issue because they all fall asleep by now...) Now get ready to log on
- to the lamest bbs system you've ever seen. The lamest in 618? Yes, but
- worse...It's the lamest bbs in the entire WORLD. I CHALLENGE anyone to
- find a lamer bbs than the one you're about to see and send me captures
- of it. That's a DARE!]
-
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- yer gonna be deleted! INCLUDE:
-
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-
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- the new BBS. We were previously known as the Hackerz Union. The board was
- popular, however, we had our problems. Now we are back with OVER ONE GIGABYTE
- of files. The topics include: Hacking Phreaking Anarchy Virus Cracking ANSi
-
- And there is much, much more! We encourage users to upload as well as download.
- To get access to some of our file library, please use call-back verification
- located in the external programs section of the BBS. The system uses a credit
- system, so please upload rather than just asking for credits.
-
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- deletion of your account.
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- you!
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-
-
- [Feel the cheese, feel the lameness of this total wanna-be phreaker bbs. I
- ask you, what kind of real phreak bbs voice validates their users?? I've
- bbsed all over the country, seen just about every level of lameness you
- can imagine, but this is absolutely the worst "phreak" bbs I've ever come
- across, even worse than my own. And the sad thing is that I had a hard
- time getting access to it and I finally had to resort to using a fake
- alias. A few years ago I had called this board when it was called The
- Hacker's Union and it was sort of lame back then but at least the sysop
- didn't try to mislead everyone into thinking it was a big-time hacker bbs.
- The sysop's name is Phillip Wool, alias Mr. Hack aka L▐OXV▐OX▐PN and totally
- not liked by pretty much the entire 618 area code. I was at one time
- last year) considered a "good citizen" but just to see if I could stir
- things up, I left Zak a piece of e-mail on his bbs:
-
- Attr : Read
- To : Zak #19
- From : Redboxchilipepper #59
- Date : Sat Dec 10 1994 02:22 pm PST
-
- Hey, Zak, I think I've just about had it with this board. First, the sysop, Mr.
- Hack starts hacking the users' accounts and now he's switching to lame VBBS and
- not giving you access. Mr. Hack's lame questions about ESS are more than
- annoying. I think maybe I'll call the Ameritech billing office there and shut
- off his line, his parent's line and his grandparents line. Then I'll blow up
- his house. Gee, I hope he's not watching right now. Man, this is about the
- lamest, wanna-be hacker board I've ever seen in my life. "Hey, RBCP, keep
- uploading those k-k-k-k-kool text files 'cause you seem to know what you're
- talking about" Stupid Mr. Hack. Let's set his dad's car on fire. A wire from
- the back tail light into the gas tank does wonders.
-
- Oh well, talk to you later. I'll probably call back this lame board again
- tomorrow just for the comic relief. Later! *RBCP* Roy!
-
- [Heh, looking at the date in that mail, I realized that I wrote that
- mail while I was in Austin, Texas from one of the pay phones in the
- airport. A few months before, while I was living in Portland, Oregon,
- Zak had called up the phone company and ordered Call Waiting on Mr.
- Hack's board line. Normally a sysop (even a stupid one) would figure
- this out within a day, but it took Mr. Hack over a MONTH to realize
- what someone had done. Even with all the users, including myself,
- sending him pissed off feedback asking why we always get hung up on
- when we call. It wasn't until his phone bill arrived with that extra
- monthly charge on it that he figured something wasn't right. After he'd
- figured out that I'd turned on him, he deleted me and blacklisted my
- alias from his board so I send him netmail from another system:
-
- [============================================================================]
- Hi Mr. Hack!
-
- Hey, did I ever tell you that I'm thinking of becomming a psychic? Let me try
- this out on you...I predict a horrible twisted fate on your fone line. It will
- happen soon and would have already happened but somebody has been too busy
- lately doing other bad things....I'm pretty good, eh? I should get my own 900
- number? Better yet, get YOU a 900 that I could have access to and you can't.
-
- *RedBoxChiliPPepper*
-
- [Right after I wrote that, he e-mailed Andromeda (the sysop of Bogus
- Journey) and asked her if he could have all of the personal info she
- had on me. She was amused by this and forwarded the mail to me. After
- all that I kind of lost touch with the whole Mr. Hack thing until just
- last month when someone told me that he was "wanting to get Zak and
- RBCP because they're always making fun of me." (I don't think this
- issue is going to make him too happy then.) So here's what Mr. Hack's
- new & improved phreeker board looks like. We'll start with the user
- list...]
-
- Beastie #13 East Alton, IL 07/23/95 Locally
- Bucky The Wonder Plumber #12 Belleville, Il 07/24/95 14.4/V32
- Catfish #15 Cahokia, Illinois 07/31/95 14.4/V32
- Chewbac #18 Collinsville,il 07/27/95 14.4/V32
- Death Mage #4 Belleville, Il 06/10/95 9600/V32
- Dim #25 , Ha Ha 07/31/95 14.4/V32
- Eight Ball #8 Troy, Il 08/03/95 14.4/V32
- Fed Clad Madagascar #29 Highland, Illinois 08/03/95 14.4/V32
- Fiberflow #28 Troy, Il 08/02/95 2400
- Guest #5 Unknown, Unknown? 07/11/95 9600/V32
- Jay #26 Scott Afb, Il 08/03/95 9600/V32
- Joe Shambro #3 Granite City, Il 08/02/95 14.4/V32
- Kermit #21 Belleville,Il 07/30/95 14.4/V32
- L▐OXV▐OX▐PN (EXiLE) #1 Belleville, Illinois 08/02/95 Locally
- Meteor Man #11 St.Louis,mo. 06/27/95 14.4/V32
- Mr.Park #17 Alton,il 07/30/95 14.4/V32
- Mr.Xerox. #24 Bethalto,ill 08/03/95 14.4/V32
- Mr.Xerox▐? #22 Bethalto,ill 07/30/95 14.4/V32
- Primo Pyro #7 Belleville, Missouri 08/01/95 9600/V32
- Raistlain #9 Belleville, Il 08/03/95 2400
- Richard #23 Fairview Heights, Il 07/30/95 14.4/V32
- Subliminal Chaos #6 Dunno, Dunno 07/09/95 14.4/V32
- Teknorat #10 Florissant, Mo 05/24/95 2400
- Thraka #16 Belleville, Il 07/28/95 Locally
- ThΣ Pφ▐MM-$t #2 Alton, Illinois 07/27/95 Locally
- Wild Bill #20 Fairview Hts, Il 07/28/95 14.4/V32
-
- [It has always been my opinion that any phreak bbs with any kind of
- status should never be allowed to have a user who goes by the alias
- of Bucky the Wonder Plumber. Note how elite they are by using only
- the lower case i's when they type in all caps! And their user list
- boasts users from as far away as Florissant, Missouri. (Right across
- the river) I logged on as a new user under the name of Brain Strats
- and the alias Fed Clad Madagascar (and yes, Chris Tomkinson, I
- ripped that off from YOU!) Here's the feedback I left...]
-
-
- *NEW USER* Age/Sex/BD : 20 M 12/12/74
- Real name : Brian Strats Phone number : 618-654-9044
- Computer : IBM 486dx VGA 500 megz Modem type : 14.4/V32
-
- Hi, I'm calling you from highland. I'm looking for files called PLA because I
- heard there was some sort of story on highland in there. Have you heard of it?
- Do you know how to get axcess on Roy's place? The sysop there wont give me
- axcess but i don't know why. He seems like a dick. I'm really into the
- phreaking thing and i used to hhack but lost my phhone line and hhaven't much
- gotten into it lately. so i'm sort of behind the times. I have a recording of
- pay phones tones that lets me get free calls on some pay phones in town, but
- not all of them.
-
- hhmmm, what else? Not much, I'm 20 years old and looking for contacts, I guess.
- do you know a way to dial long distance for free? I think this call costs money
- from highland, but I'm not sure about that one. Also, have you ever heard of
- me? I haven't bbsed in over a year and I mostly called Fantasy Island and Tower
- of power. I don't know of any other hpvac boardrs. there's NO bbses in
- Highhland. it really sucks here. I don't have many warez, just a few games but
- they're not exactly 0day. I'm more interested in getting to know the switching
- systems in your town. Ours is lame, very old and outdated but at least we have
- caller I.D. (before you guys even did!) ha! catch ya later!
-
- ohh one more thing...I have lots of anarchy/hhack/phreak files that I got from
- a board in st. louis awhile back. They're sort of old but could be good for
- historical purposes if you want.
-
- [I tried to go for the innocent, good guy type of attitude. Soon after I
- logged on he broke in for chat (always home, go figure!) and started
- asking me questions about myself. He said before I was validated he'd have
- to talk to me voice and I told him that I'd tapped into the line of the
- hair salon downstairs and was using their line so he couldn't call me
- voice and the dork actually believed me! I turned on the capture file
- half way through the chat so here's more or less what was said...]
-
- (chat mode with Mr. Hack, already in progress...)
-
- I think it's because i'm actually in GTE territory and we're on an old crappy
- switch still. I heard you guys got upgraded a couple years back but I didn't
- hear which kind of switch. Do you know if it was 5ESS?
-
- Yes, I believe thats it! YOu seem to know of phones fairly well, am I speaking
- to a phreek?
-
- [Of course, he has no idea about anything to do with switches, he's just
- read about the 5ESS in all his "anarchy files" and recognized the name.]
-
- But of course. I really haven't been into it for a long time. my friend
- started my interest because he had a blue box that really worked but they're
- trash now. I have a tape recording of red box tones that I use all the time
- for LD from pay phones. (it's loud but it works!)
-
- I can't get a tape recorded tone to work, but when you drop a quarter in the
- phone with the volume up all of the way, you can here the CHirP!-CHiRP-CHiRP-
- CHirp-... I swear!
-
- Yeah, it's like that on a few phones around here. you're not supposed to be
- able to hear that but you do.
-
- I tried building a redbox with a tone dialer, but phucked up when soldering, a
- and now I have a 15.00 peice of-crap-tonedialer, and a boken 6.5536 MHz
- crystall.
-
- [This guy actually bought the $15 model?? Good luck with those nickels!]
-
- Those actually work? I heard about those but thhought the article was bullshit.
- you could just put the tone dialer together and say it doesn't work and they'd
- probably give you a new one.
-
- Problem is, everything is on a computer.. they'd send it back, see that it had
- been tampered with, then give me a call. I wouldn't get away with it. My
- phriends think I'm paranoid. my being paranoid will save my back! I mean, you
- can't live dangerously forever.
-
- True, better paranoid than caught. Like uh, you could buy a new one under a
- false name and take THAT one back. I dunno, just buy a new one a try again i
- guess.
-
- Oh. well, I am probably John Q. Mostpopularcustomer at radio shaq. They like
- for me to come in, cause I always buy a shitload of expensive electronics.
-
- [I almost lost it right there. I just wanted to tell him right there that
- he was stupid, but I held back. He finally decided that since I'm so
- "knowledgable" about them phone, he'd give me access to see the messages
- and to download those froody PLA files I'd heard so much about. My main
- concern was finding a lot of posts that I could capture and laugh at but
- nobody posts there. Well... there's a few that are worth seeing, but not
- much. Each sub had a total of about five posts. The only sub that had a
- lot of messages in it was the System Announcements sub. So here they are.
- To conserve space, I took out most of the indents, spaces and signatures.]
-
- Subj : Let's Get the subs going!
- From : L▐OXV▐OX▐PN (EXiLE) #1
- Date : Mon Jul 31 1995 12:21 pm CDT
-
- I will award every GOOD post with credits. Also, advertise the BBS. We need
- more users to get more files and better posts.
-
- Subj : Primo Pyro
- From : Primo Pyro #7
- Date : Mon Jul 10 1995 12:13 pm CDT
-
- I am the ultimate PYRO! I just thought I'd let you know...... okay bye!
-
- Subj : how to hack the sysops computer
- To : All
- From : Kermit #21
- Date : Sun Jul 30 1995 12:07 pm CDT
-
- you need
- 1)a ladder
- 2)a axe
-
- make friends (suck up like hell) with the sysop. so much that he either gives
- tou his address or invites you over. a while later, keep track of when his
- family member and him leave.
- watch the house untill they all leave.
- as soon as they leave, use the ladder to klimb into one of the windows.
- if his room is in the basement, go through the upstairs window anyway( it's
- funner that way) now, go into the room where he keeps his computer(S)
- and HACK EVERYTHING WITH THAT BIG AXE (computers,moniters,MODEM,disks his cosz
- chair ect.) then
- go home and call the bbs to see if it is still running. (unless your totally
- stupid, and don't know what your doing, the bbs won't work
-
- [You know, it amazes me to no end how much that post resembled PLA001.TXT
- I don't know, me and Kermit must be on the same wave length.]
-
- Subj : Let's get this started: Sending fake mail in UNIX
- From : L▐OXV▐OX▐PN (EXiLE) #1
- Date : Thu Jul 27 1995 02:05 pm CDT
-
- I have a small script file that allows the sending of mail with a fake sender
- in UNIx. It does not work, however. If anyone has experiance with UNIX script
- programming, please tell me, I need someone to take a look at it, so we can
- figure out whatz wrong.
-
- L▐NXV▐OXEN
-
- Subj : PHReeeKeRS [<-- Notice the eLeeet WaY he Speeeellz!]
- To : All
- From : Primo Pyro #7
- Date : Sat Jul 29 1995 01:12 pm CDT
-
- If there are any *REAL* PHReeeKeRS on this board who are interested in joining
- a SYNDICATION... e-mail ME, PRiMO PYRO. You will be hired by our clients to do
- certain sabotage jobs dealing with phone lines. More than likely you will be
- paid for these jobs. Any questions or if you wanna join... e-mail me!
- ||\\ //||
- || || ETALLiCA RULeZ!!!! ▒▒▓▓││PRiMO°PYRO││▓▓▒▒
-
- [Oooooooooo! Shouldn't that be SYNDiCATiON with lower case i's? I like
- the way el_jefe put it best: "These guys seem to think that phreaking
- mostly deals with blowing things up."]
-
- Subj : Boxes
- To : All
- From : L▐OXV▐OX▐PN (EXiLE) #1
- Date : Sat Jul 29 1995 02:47 pm CDT
-
- Contact CCVERIFIER on AOL for information on buying boxes. 20$ to 150$ price
- range. contact him at CCVERIFIER@AOL.COM I just thought I'd tell you all about
- this.
-
- [ "Real Phreakers who buy AOL accounts! Next on Geraldo!" ]
-
- Subj : ......
- From : Eight Ball #8
- Date : Sun Jul 30 1995 02:51 pm CDT
-
- This board is kind of gay.
-
- [Way to go, Eight Ball! He eventually got deleted for that.]
-
- Subj : Eightball.
- To : All
- From : L▐OXV▐OX▐PN (EXiLE) #1
- Date : Sun Jul 30 1995 09:27 pm CDT
-
- Well, letz see, you don't post, and hardly upload... Maybe it is not the
- board that is gay. just wait until we get more users. It's only been up fer
- less than a week!
-
- Subj : ANaRCHy iZ my FRiEND!!!
- To : All
- From : Primo Pyro #7
- Date : Sat Jul 29 1995 01:16 pm CDT
-
- As I said before in the PHReeeKeR section of the posts... We are starting a
- SYNDICATION and if you are interested in joining, e-mail me, PRiMO PYRO. You
- will be hired by others do sabotage things and prettty much reik HaVoC!!! It
- will be fun and you will more than likely get paid for the job you do. Look
- for further info on this message base and post any questions or comments.
-
- Subj : red boxing
- To : All
- From : L▐OXV▐OX▐PN (EXiLE) #1
- Date : Fri Aug 04 1995 09:29 am CDT
-
- RE: red boxing
- BY: Fed Clad Madagascar to All on Fri Aug 04 1995 07:49 am
-
- I can't get my recorded tones to work. I have used:
-
- -Quarter.WAV
- -P-80 Tone generation utilities
- -Tone-dial
-
- and about 4 other tone generators. They won't work. I am doing it wrong, and
- was wondering if anyone could explain their methods of redboxing other than
- recorded tones and the tonedialer. If anyone knows where I can buy a redbox,
- please post the place's number!
-
- [During chat, he told me how he bought a Radio Shack tone dialer and a
- crystal and tried to solder the crystal in but ended up burning a hole
- in the circuit board. I told him to go exchange the tone dialer and
- say it doesn't work and he said that'd be really stupid because they
- have his name, address and phone number on the receipt. I didn't even
- bother asking him why he didn't use false information.]
-
- Subj : Warez! I'll show you warez!
- From : L▐OXV▐OX▐PN (EXiLE) #1
- Date : Fri Aug 04 1995 09:32 am CDT
-
- AOL is the place for warez. They have the l8test stuph. I have a phull mailbox.
- I have so many warez at my disposal. I have a bunch of free packages if anyone
- is interested. Getting them from me is a hell of a lot easier than getting them
- from AOL.
-
- [Roy's Place has a special sub just for Mr. Hack called "Mr. Hack Thinks
- He's Sneaky." Here's a couple posts from that sub...]
-
- Name: Scorpion #13 @1
- Date: Tue Aug 01 13:52:08 1995
-
- Don't all you Sysops feel jealous now because I got Phil trying to call my
- board now using the name EntintyX and saying he runs the Telco X Phreekers
- groups hehehehehe. When I said go away Phil he goes who's Phil so I had to
- remind him about the 9600 and the fact that he used the same PW "rodney"
- So in conclusion the title says it all Mr. Phil "thinks" he's sneaky.
- Scorpion
-
- [Scorpion compiled a list of passwords that Mr. Hack likes to use...]
-
- Rodney John Mark Macdad Jake Jones
- Jack Jones Intity X Weirdo Reset Lonely
- VMX Phreeker Inet Diskdrive Lordchaos
-
-
-
-
- [Eight Ball had the pleasure of chatting with L▐OXV▐OX▐PN one night and was
- nice enough to send the captures to me...]
-
- 8B: You know you made the PLA's loser list?
- LX: What? What's that? I know my popularity has gone down but I don't know
- what that is. [Yes, he really said this.]
- 8B: The loser list is PLA #7 it's a list of people's real names and info and
- they distribute it so I wouldn't be surprised if you start getting prank
- calls from Alaska.
- LX: Well, I think the PLA is more talk than action. All they can do is
- harrass people on the phone all day, but they aren't true phreekers.
- 8B: Oh yeah? You haven't talked to Deter or Chris Tomkinson have you?
- LX: No, why should I have?
- 8B: Oh you'll probably see when the PLA do what they did to them to you.
-
- [Nobody is sure if L▐OXV▐OX▐PN is trying to be elite or he just doesn't know
- how to spell the word Phreeeeker.]
-
- Subj : Kermit
- To : All
- From : Marlboro Man #33
- Date : Sun Aug 06 1995 06:32 pm CDT
-
- Kermit is a buttfucking homo inbred. I caught him in bed with his dad, but
-
- Title:
-
- Enter message now (50 lines max). Type /? on a new line for menu.
- ----+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--
- Oh, be fucking quiet, Hit Man. Why do you use 12,000 different aliases
- everywhere? Are you trying to be sneaky like Mr. Hack? You know what's really
- pathetic is that I logged on to this bbs just to see what it's like and it's
- the most harmless, stupidest, lamest thing I've ever logged onto in my entire
- life. First I tried under my real name, RedBoxChiliPepper, but Mr. Hacky
- wouldn't validate me and then I went under this fake alias of Fed Clad and told
- Mr. Hack that he couldn't voice validate me because I was tapping into the
- beauty parlor's line downstairs cause I didn't have my own phone and you know
- what? The idiot believed me! Anyways, I suppose I'll be deleted, oh well. Have
- fun writing your k-rad SYNDICATION. I can't wait for THAT one to come out!
-
- Kermit? You're about the fucking stupidest person I've ever seen on a bbs. I
- just think you should know that. And the guy who's starting the amazing
- SYNDICATION? You're just about as bad. Phreaking does NOT mean going abround and
- blowing shit up. And Mr. Hack? Can you say "call waiting?" I knew you could!
- /s
-
-
- What's even worse is their hack line at 618-397-7729...
-
-
- Thank you for calling TWi$TΣD RΣA▐\iTY, another fine Synchronet BBS...
-
- ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
- │ Other Info On The 618 Area │
- └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
- Well, as if anyone cared, that's the rundown on what the 618 area is like. As
- I said before, DON'T move there, under any circumstances! As if any of the
- above three articles aren't convincing enough, it gets worse...Brent Deterding
- lives in 618! That's right, DETER! Also known as the guy who's home phone
- number is 618-288-9652. There are a few good bbses, though.
-
- Roy's Place (618-797-2339) for one. The original headquarters for the PLA and
- operated by Zak aka El_Jefe. With truely great message topics such as the "Mr.
- Hack Thinks He's Sneaky" sub and "I wish I lived in Roy, New Mexico!"
-
- Then there's the Cocktail Lounge at 618-451-8048, Martini's board, the one who
- wrote those wonderful, enlightening poems about Deter & Chris Tomkinson. And
- the place where the whole Greg Carson/Hit Man war started from.
-
- A couple other good ones are Bogus Journey (618-656-7266) run by Andromeda and
- Twist of Cain at 618-876-6042. I would put the 618 area bbs list here but since
- this PLA is already way too long, I'm going to leave it out. Hope you enjoyed
- these. (Who am I kidding...) Stay tuned next issue when we take a look at
- BBSing in Roy, New Mexico! (ahem...not)
-
- ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
- │ How To Piss Off RedBoxChiliPepper - by Colleen Card │
- └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
- Fun things to do when you call his board, or his house (If you happen to know
- how to get that number.) things to mail, things for fun. Revenage on The
- Cactus has just begun!
-
- 1. Call up his board and page him to chat. Then if he ever does chat with
- you type in all CAPS or lower case. (Actually this would probably bug
- alot of people.)
-
- 2. Call up his house day and night and ask to borrow cans of Spam, cups of
- suger, and other stupid things that aren't funny just lame!
-
- 3. Call his house and tell him Zak is coming to visit AAAAARRRRRRGGGGG!
-
- 4. Drop by his house unexpectedly alot and time him on how fast it takes to
- open the door.
-
- 5. Mail him a HUGE box full of styrafome.
-
- 6. E-Mail him Ansi.
-
- 7. Take a few days off work to stay home and watch the Sesame Street 72 hour
- marathon. (He get's bored after the first 24 hours.)
-
- ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
- │ What The Community Is Saying About PLA! │
- └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
- Erik Bloodaxe: "What a bunch of dumbasses..."
-
- Jim Bayless: (Hysterical laughter, incoherent mumbling and face twitching)
-
- Gail [Thactery]: "They're so pathetic and harmless, even I wouldn't dare to
- try and prosecute them."
-
- Scott The Believer: "May the lord help them on the path to recovery."
-
- Greg Carson aka The Hit Man: "I'm gonna fly down to Texas this weekend with my
- dog and KILL that fucking idiot!"
-
- Mr. Hack: "You know, I think they're pretty cool..."
-
- Tr1be: "y0y0y0y0y0! You think the PLA will write a text file that will detail
- how to turn on your modem?"
-
- Mr. Rogers: "Can you say `stupid'? I knew you could!"
-
- ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
- │ And This Issue's Feature Loser/Dork/Gimp is... (Drum Roll Please!) │
- └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
- ╓──┐ ╓──┐ ╥──┐ ╥ ┬ ╥─┐ ╓──┐ ╥─┐ ─╥─ ╓──┐ ╥
- ╟──┤ ║ │ ║ │ ╙──┤ ╟─┴┐ ╟──┤ ╟─┴┐ ║ ║ │ ║
- ╨ ┴ ╨ ┴ ╨──┘ ╙──┘ ╨──┘ ╨ ┴ ╨──┘ ─╨─ ╨ ┴ o
-
- It's been a tough one to decide, with nominees like Scott The Believer, Chatty,
- and Kevin Christmas/Jack The Ripper (who is long overdue, by the way!) but
- Andy Babbin has got to be the biggest idiot this side of the world. I'm sure
- that Hit Man could have made it here if I hadn't decided to dedicate an entire
- article to him. Too bad, Hit Man, maybe next time...
-
- Who Is Andy Babin and How Did He Cross Paths With PLA?:
- ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────
- The whole Andy thing began when a friend was over and we were bored so he says
- "Hey, let's call this girl I know...Anna!" So we give her a call but rather
- than her answering, her brother Andy answers. So I give him the usual harrass-
- ment and the only part of the conversation I really remember is:
-
- ANDY: "You know, I could shoot a chocolate chip off the tip of your penis from
- a thousand yards?!"
- RBCP: "What??"
- ANDY: "You heard me."
- RBCP: "Uhhh, Andy? That really wasn't that funny, I think you need to work on
- that one or something."
- ANDY: "But it's true, though!"
-
- I never did figure that one out so the next day I ask my friend in e-mail about
- Andy and I get the following reply: (More of a thesis than a reply if you ask
- me!)
-
- "Andy is Anna's older brother who is like 26 and still lives with mommy and
- daddy. Anna graduated last May with my class. Anna believes very much in
- supernatural happenings and wishes to be a part of anything mysterious or would
- otherwise make her believe to have supersensory powers. Andy Babin is 'all man'
- in his book. There's not a deer he can't shoot cause their ain't a gun he
- don't own. He likes to burp, fart, drive a red and white ugly truck with a
- big camper and Anna drives an old Chevy Celebrity. Andy is crude, obnoxious,
- and fitting of the stereotype you were exposed to by talking to him on the
- phone. Her dad is hard core into short wave radio and her mom...well, I think
- she likes to play a round or two of that Windows Jezball and Windows Tetris
- before taking herself and Anna to Catholic church where Anna is in the choir.
- Well...that's about all the information I could think of that could in the
- slightest be possibly relevant. There is a guy named Matt in Austin that she's
- lusted after for years cause they were on the 'same wave length' and she
- regretts losing contact with him if you REALLY wanna be cruel..hehe...anyways.
- I'll owe you if you really do something spectacular!" END OF MAIL.
-
- Kind of sounds like a suped-up Dino Allsman, eh?
-
- How Can I Get In Touch With Andy Babbin?:
- ────────────────────────────────────────
- Well, if you're not able to find Andy at your local NRA meetings, you could
- write him a letter at Andy Babin, 6702 Whitewing Dr., Corpus Christi, TX 78413
- or you could call him at 512-991-0217. If he's not home then Anna is always
- willing to talk, especially if you three-way on a 900 psychic line.
-
-
- ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
- │ This Issue's Featured Support Sites │
- └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
- Here are the systems that have decided to throw out all their morals and carry
- the Phone Losers texts on their computers since the last issue. See if YOU can
- make this list by next issue! Also at the end of this text you'll find our new
- FTP site which has a very extended text & zine section as well as the new Web
- page which has been provided by the editors of Delirium. Thanks, Apothesis!
- Geez, what's with this sudden 618 surge?? Guess it's the Chatterbox publicity.
- If you're a PLA site and haven't been added to the list yet, e-mail me! And if
- I forgot to ad you to the list, tough doo doo.
-
- 219-365-1096 Suburban Wasteland...........................Crown Point, Indiana
- 403-342-1458 Plad Banana.............................Red Deer, Alberta, Canada
- 408-883-9535 Land of Rape & Honey...................................California
- 409-899-5793 Stinky's Bar & Grill..............................Beaumont, Texas
- 410-437-3858 Command Tech...................................Pasadena, Maryland
- 510-935-5845 Temple of the Screaming Electron.......................California
- 601-332-2446 BadLands..................................Greenville, Mississippi
- 607-785-1427 Up In Smoke......................................................
- 618-451-8048 Cocktail Lounge............................Granite City, Illinois
- 618-667-8363 The Corner Pocket..................................Troy, Illinois
- 618-746-0049 Birdland...........................Scott Air Force Base, Illinois
- 618-876-6042 Twist of Cain..............................Granite City, Illinois
- 618-877-5348 Total Chaos................................Granite City, Illinois
- 708-251-3868 Poison Pen.................................Chicago Area, Illinois
- 801-278-2699 Lies Unlimited...............................................Utah
- 803-772-3893 Hacker's Heaven..........................Columbia, South Carolina
-
- International Sites:
- ───────────────────
- +44-1-91-454-6978 The Doc..............................South Shields, England
- +32-2-757-0776 Digital Fuse........................................Belgium
- _______________________________________________________________________________
- ---Phone Losers Of America Headline News---
- ______________________________________________________________________________
-
- Here's an interesting news article submitted by Apotheosis of Delirium:
-
- TRUE MORTIFICATION: AT&T mailed information on their "True Rewards"
- program to 175,000 customers. But when patrons called the printed
- toll-free number to get details, they were greeted with "Are you
- ready to get naked? If you want hardcore, uncensored, explicit sex
- now, then come and -- mmmmm -- take it!" Apparently, a printing error
- substituted AT&T's number for a phone sex number. "People have been
- calling and expressing their dissatisfaction," an AT&T spokeswoman
- noted. But not everyone is dissatisfied: "It hasn't been bad for
- business," said a spokeswoman for Amtec Communications, the company
- that provides the phone sex service. (AP) ...No, really: I'm just
- calling so I can get more frequent flyer miles.
- ______________________________________________________________________________
-
- [Here's some article I found in the Corpus Christi Caller Times...]
-
- The classic victims of service automation are probably telephone operators. At
- one time, every call required a human switch, but then, as calling volumes
- surged, massive automation was required. The number of operators has dropped
- to 60,000 from 250,000 in 1956 and is still dwindling; in the past 15 months
- alone, AT&T Corp. has slashed its total by 25 percent. The sheer pace of
- automation takes its toll. "It seems like every day they're telling us there
- is something new to 'mech,'" says Addie Brinkley, an AT&T operator since 1957
- in Modesto, California.
- ______________________________________________________________________________
- "I took a year of Spanish in high school and I only know enough to harrass
- the AT&T operator." -Zak
- "I love being a shit." -RBCP
-
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- ▄██ ▀█ ██ ▀▀▄██ ▀██▄ ▀██▄ ██ ▀██▀ ██ ▄██ ██ ▄██ ▀██ ▀██▄
- ┌───███─────██──▄█─██────▀██───▀██──██───██─────██──██▀▀▀▀─██───██────▀██────┐
- │ ▀█▄▄▀ ▄██▄ ▀█▄▀▀▄ ▀▄▄█▀ ▀▄▄█▀ ▄██▄ ▄██▄ ▄██▄ ▀█▄▄▀ ▀█▄▀██▄ ▀▄▄█▀ │
- │Psychic Sadomasochists Hotline! Coming│HELP WANTED: Fairfield Inn in Fair-│
- │soon! Real BDSM lifestyle participants│view Heights, Illinois has openings│
- │who are also versed in various psychic│for a new night man! Please call us│
- │arts will be offering telephone consul-│at 618-398-7124 or 618-398-7189 to│
- │tations. Call 1-800-4-FETISH for further│schedule your interview today! Or│
- │information on all your fetish needs!│drop by 140 Ludwig to fill out an│
- │────────────────────────────────────────┤application. The last fucker that│
- │Do you have experience with telephones? │worked here, Greg, kept having his│
- │Southwestern Bell NEEDS you! Now accept-│little friends call here and bother│
- │ing applications for security personell.│me and all the other employees. Not│
- │SWB has had major problems with huge│to mention how much he ran up our│
- │surges in fraudulent calling and we need│phone bill with all those 900 sex│
- │your help in catching these fiends. If│line calls. Can YOU keep your mind│
- │interested, call Ken at 1-800-800-8900.│on your work? If this sounds like│
- │Refs & background check required...│the job for you, please stop by!│
- ├────────────────────────────────────────┴───────────┬───────────────────────┤
- │You too can put your own ad in the PLA Classifieds! │Like, everybody have a│
- │All you have to do is send your ad to the classified│fucking great time at│
- │department at rbcp@big12.metrobbs.com or you could│Defcon without me. I'm│
- │phone in your ad at 512-703-8910. Ads are $60 a word│too fucking poor to│
- │and all charges will be billed to your parents.│make it this year.-DTMF│
- ├─────────────────────────────────────────┬──────────┴───────────────────────┤
- │Are you lonely? Do you have absolutely no│ *** KEVIN CHRISTMAS EATS IT! *** │
- │friends at all? Do you enjoy hanging out├──────────────────────────────────┤
- │on illegal 800 confs, but you're so lame│Pinkerton Rent-A-Cops are now tak-│
- │that nobody will give you conf info be-│ing applications for armed guards│
- │cause all you do is tone at them? Well,│at many local AT&T buildings to│
- │have I got the line for you! Call the│stop kids from breaking into the│
- │DefCon Voice Bridge at 801-855-3326. Even│AT&T vans and romping around in│
- │though toning doesn't work so well, you│trash bins. Help is needed immedi-│
- │can still sit there and play your K-Cool│ately so apply today. 901k plan,│
- │MOD files, yell at people and tell them│benefits, all you can eat donuts,│
- │all how lame they are and that they know│$4.26 / hour. For more information│
- │nothing compared to you. Call it today!│call Pinkerton at 618-397-7729.│
- ├─────────────────────────────────────────┴──────────────────────────────────┤
- │WANTED: Submissions for PLA95FAL.TXT! The new updated PLA Phone Directory is│
- │going pretty good but I still need some more numbers for it. Also needed are│
- │cool FTP sites, web pages and internet e-mail addresses. Send anything! RBCP│
- └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
- ┌─────────────Contact─The─Phone─Losers─Of─America─Nearest─You!───────────────┐
- │ Voice: │ Data: │
- │ 512-703-8910 PLA Voicemail System │ 618-797-2339 Roy's Place │
- │ 314-995-1261 Zak's VMB System │ 512-883-7543 Whombat Communications │
- ├──────────────────────────┬─────────┴───────────────────────────────────────┤
- │ U.S. Mailing Address: │ FTP Sites/Web Sites: │
- │ Phone Losers Of America │ FTP.FC.NET............pub/deadkat/phreaking/PLA │
- │ P.O. Box 3642 │ ETEXT.ARCHIVE.UMICH.EDU...pub/Zines/PhoneLosers │
- │ Corpus Christi, TX 78463 │ Web......HTTP://www.compumedia.com/~jnoonan/PLA │
- ├──────────────────────────┴─────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
- │ Internet: rbcp@big12.metrobbs.com (To contact RedBoxChiliPepper) │
- │ cactus@basenet.net (To contact Zak a.k.a. el_jefe) │
- │ collcard@big12.metrobbs.com (To contact Colleen Card) │
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