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- Network Working Group H. Brodie
- Request for Comments #269 UCLA-NMC
- NIC # 7817 6 December 71
- Categories: File Transfer
- Updates: 122, 238, 172
- Obsoletes: None
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- Some Experience with File Transfer
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- At UCLA-NMC we have recently completed implementation of a program which
- utilizes UCSB's storage capability via their Simple Minded File System
- (See RFC #122 by Jim White for a description of SMFS). The use of the
- program is detailed in Appendix A.
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- We learned a number of things in the implementation effort and
- subsequent usage. We think a number of these apply towards the
- development of a net- word-wide File Transfer Protocol, and we hope to
- stimulate further dis- cussion of these issues. We discovered some
- things in the UCSB protocol that we would like to see included in the
- network-wide protocol, and we see some things that are in the currently
- proposed net protocol and are unfortunately absent from the UCSB
- protocol.
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- In the first category, is the UCSB file retrieval procedure. The user
- specifies among other things, a bit count of the number of bits to be
- retrieved in the current request.
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- Successive RTF commands yield successive pieces of the file. Portions
- of the file can be spaced over by use of the SPF command. We think that
- the ability of the user to specify the size of the "chunks" of the file
- he is about to receive, along with the ability to access any part of the
- file without having to get the entire file, is definitely an advantage.
- It makes the user programs easier to write since the problem of parsing
- the input stream virtually disappears, as the user program knows exactly
- what to expect at all times. In addition, the one request, one response
- nature of the protocol avoids the problem of sending a request and then
- receiving pieces of data of unpredictable size at unknown intervals.
- The response to each RTF gives the comforting knowledge that "they're
- still listening". This leads us to believe that there is much to be
- gained by the adoption of a one request, one response type of protocol.
- We might point out that for any significant file transfer, this does not
- seriously cut down on the overall data transfer rate, since a
- "defaulting" type of approach, as SMFS uses can be used to keep the
- request messages very small. We also have found the mandatory password
- scheme of UCSB quite easily used, and any server site, (i.e. a site
- specifically advertising file storage) can reasonably be expected, in
- our opinion, to require passwords (see also RFC #238 by R. Braden).
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- Network Working Group H. Brodie
- Request for Comments #269 UCLA-NMC
- NIC #7817 6 December 71
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- Almost immediately after starting to use SMFS we found a serious lack in
- one area. There is no way for a user to ask "what files do I have
- there?" As a matter of fact, the author suspects that there are already
- several files there which he has "forgotten" about! It is reasonable,
- perhaps even necessary, for any server to supply a nicely formatted
- character string describing the files stored there for this password, or
- user, or whatever division is used. The listing should also contain
- other pertinent information, such as date created, size etc.
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- In the meantime, UCSB is providing the SEX system with valuable "out-of-
- line on-line" storage, and we look forward to the development of a
- widely accepted file transfer protocol, implemented on a large number of
- server sites, hopefully equipped with low cost bulk storage.
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- SEX Notebook Appendix A H. Brodie
- Section 23.29 3 December 71
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- FXFER
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- FXFER is a re-entrant program written in Symbol which is used to send a
- receive file from UCSB, using their Simple Minded File System. For the
- description of the Network interface to SMFS, see RFC #122 by Jim White.
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- Files are stored there in a paged format identical to the paged format
- that the tape process uses: <header><data page><data page>... Thus a
- file which Master lists as having n pages will take 2048 n bytes of
- storage at UCSB. The user's sign-on initials are used as both the
- access and modification passwords, so that if a file is sent under on
- user's sign-on, they can only be retrieved or deleted by him.
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- Commands
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- PA - Increments "print All" counter. Different settings of this
- counter yield different levels of program trace output on
- the console.
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- NP - No print. This sets the "Print All" counter to zero.
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- DF FOO - This deletes the file "FOO" located at UCSB.
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- PF FOO - This sends the file "FOO", pointed to by the user's root
- directory, to UCSB. Only read access is needed to "FOO".
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- GF FOO - The file "FOO" located at UCSB is retrieved and put in the
- user's root (with write access). Note that it must have been
- sent by the user to have the right password.
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- RN FOO BAR - Rename the file "FOO" at UCSB to "BAR". The same password
- restrictions as with PF and GF apply. (Not yet implemented)
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- ST - Status. Tells what program is doing and how much its done.
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- X - Exit Program.
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- If the system and/or UCSB is particularly slow, then UCSBFIL may type a
- time-out message. At this point the user has the option of continuing,
- or exiting the program. The message is self-explanatory, as are most of
- the program's messages.
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- [ This RFC was put into machine readable form for entry ]
- [ into the online RFC archives by Nick Christenson 10/97]
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