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- Thu, 1 Oct 92 04:30:03 PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and
- Newsgroup <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #267To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Thu,
- 1 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 267Today's Topics:
- AmigaNOS Internet Gateway
- Policy KISS mode on Kantronics KPC-3
- Looking for info on Granger Associates
- Online BBS for HAM radio operators
- Problems: TheNet X1GSend Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: 30 Sep 92 01:41:56 PSTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.a
- c.nz!amigans!glasgow!zoltar@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: AmigaNOSTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <01GPBC7A00CG93CDVM@HOBBES.CCA.CR.ROCKWELL.COM>
- RSHANEY%PV@HOBBES.CCA.CR.ROCKWELL.COM (Where's my chainsaw?)
- writes:>>>>Don't forget, I know hardly anything about Packet or
- Amateur Radio.>>Is the TNC the actual `Hardware' as such like
- the Packet hardware,>>and the radio setup?>>Yes, that is the
- hardware. You connect your 500 to the TNC, run the>terminal
- program, and you are (in theory) ready to go. (You'll have
- to>learn some of the ins and outs of packet, but just monitoring
- is pretty>easy.) I run on an A3000 and a PK-88, total setup
- time was about two>minutes.*Wow* Not long to setup at all!!!
- :)>I'd save AmigaNOS until after I learned more about packet.
- It'll be>easier to set up that way.Yup, I am goin gto the
- Amateur Radio meeting this week here... I willtry and ge ts ome
- help in getting into the scene, who knows,maybe soon we can chat
- over the airwaves!! Or can we? Can I chatto you from here in New
- Zealand?Grant--
- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
- \/ Grant Thoms (Zoltar) Co-Sysop of `Silent Imperium' BBS
- // Zoltar@Glasgow.Amigans.Gen.NZ\X/
- ---- Standard Quote: `Insert $10 for the
- next 0.5 seconds' *** Opinions expressed are my
- own
- ***\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
- \/\/\------------------------------Date: 1 Oct 92 03:10:28
- GMTFrom:
- sun-barr!sh.wide!wnoc-kyo!astemgw!kenji@ames.arpaSubject:
- Internet Gateway PolicyTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduLyndon Nerenberg
- (lyndon@unbc.edu) wrote:: As for SB/EX formatting: just what
- kind of archaic software are you running?: Those aren't NNTP
- commands :-)Why not just run news on the radio using TCP/IP?In
- Japan we've running it for more than 2 years and no technical
- problemarises - we made it USENET-compatible and we use SMTP to
- encapsulatenews articles. Period.W0RLI or WA7MBL or whatever (no
- offense intended to the authors) BBSsoftware packages are just
- JUNKS considering connecting them toother networks. While legal
- issues still remain, I think there's noreason why hams have to
- use those archaic incompatible programs.Every time I see
- proposals of "censorship" or "moderated gateway" Iget
- disappointed. Isn't ham radio for cyberspace pioneers?--Kenji
- Rikitake, JJ1BDX/3 <kenji@tom.astem.or.jp>
- <kenji@rd.macrofield.or.jp>
- <...!uunet!reseau!kenji>------------------------------Date: Wed,
- 30 Sep 1992 17:23:10 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvaac!hpcvaac.cv.hp.com!crh@network.UCS
- D.EDUSubject: KISS mode on Kantronics KPC-3To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduI just purchased a Kantronics KPC3 low
- power TNC which I intend to usewith NOS (wg7j104), a FT-470 and
- an HP95LX for a fully portable TCP/IPstation.In setting up the
- KPC3 for TCP/IP I found what I believe is a major'bug' in the
- firmware (5.0). The unit is designed to maintain thecurrent
- mode through power cycles. If, while in KISS mode, you send
- aparam command to set txdelay (param <iface> 1 xx) or slottime
- (param<iface> 3 xx) the unit will perform a hard reset upon the
- next powercycle.There is a work around, however, simply set
- these two parameters whilein the TERMINAL interface mode and
- then switch to KISS mode. (Rememberto remove the param
- statements from your autoexec.nos file, the firstcouple of time
- I didn't. :-) I also set persistence in the TERMINAL mode.This
- info has been placed on the Kantronic
- BBS.-------------------------------------------------------------
- ------------Ron Henderson WA7TAS phone:
- (503) 750-2439Corvallis Site Telecom or HP
- Telnet 750-2439Hewlett-Packard Co. email:
- crh@hp-pcd (inside HP)1000 NE Circle Blvd. MS 4UP6
- crh@cv.hp.comCorvallis, Oregon 97330
- hplabs!hp-pcd!crh-----------------------------------------------
- --------------------------------------------------------Date:
- Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:19:56 GMTFrom:
- news.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!ddsw1!hp1.holl.com!dave@network.UCSD.EDU
- Subject: Looking for info on Granger AssociatesTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1992Sep16.191500.13943@mercury.cair.du.edu>
- awinterb@diana.cair.du.edu (Art Winterbauer) writes:>In article
- <1992Sep16.151447.25272@novell.com> jscherer@novell.com
- writes:>>I have a "Black Box" that I am trying to figure out
- what it does.>>The label on it says: ScanCom 6710 RME, Granger
- Associates. It has >>an ext. ant. connection, a db25 data
- connection, rx,tx,tc-data lights, >>and external power
- connection. >>>>Can anyone give me a number to Granger, or
- tell me what this thing >>might be?>>>>Why, it's obvious. It's
- a Sports Data Radio. You plug in an antenna,>apply power, and
- tune to the nearest sporting event being broadcast.>Sports data
- are automatically collected and transmitted via the db25>data
- connection to your computer for storage and analysis. :-)>How
- does that work? Is the data broadcast on FM subcarrier? Is
- thecompany still in business?--
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~ \ David Vrona N9QNZ 708.680.2829 Internet:
- dave@hp1.holl.com / / Hollister Incorporated
- UUCP: {well connected}!ddsw1!hp1!dave \ \ 2000 Hollister
- Drive Opinions expressed are my own and not / /
- Libertyville, IL 60048-3781 those of Hollister
- Incorporated. \
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~------------------------------Date: 29 Sep 92
- 18:44:42 +1700From: lub001.lamar.edu!lairdpg@rice.eduSubject:
- Online BBS for HAM radio operatorsTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduThis
- is a short post to remind you of a free service to amateurs who
- are alsocomputer hobby oriented. The HAM Connection BBS is
- online for your free useand enjoyment 24 hours per day.
- Downloads on first call/Message conferencesif you have something
- you wish to sell or discuss. Up to 57600 baud filetransfers.
- Data: 1-409-833-1795 / 24 hours / 7 days per week / 14.4k Baud
- 8,N,1Located in South East Texas. System : The HAM Connection
- Server Please give us a call, we need your support!
- -Grady-----------------------------------------------------------
- -------------------| INTERNET: lairdpg@lub001.lama.edu |
- Interstellar thought - *NEVER* *NEVER* | |
- FIDONET: 1:3811/360@fidonet.org | trust a naked bus driver!
- || The HAM Connection 1-409-833-1795
- |----------------------------------------|| 14.4K
- V.42BIS/V.32BIS - DEDICATED TO AMATEUR RADIO/ 73's es cul de
- N5UYH
- |----------------------------------------------------------------
- --------------|The opinions expressed here are those of the
- author and not Lamar
- University|------------------------------------------------------
- ------------------------
- ------------------------------Date: 30 Sep 1992 16:00:38
- -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Problems: TheNet
- X1GTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduTry a faster eprom. It worked just
- fine here and when I burned a slowereprom I had the exact same
- symptoms. I think I know have a 27512-2 (Intel)and it works
- fine in the MFJ-1270b. There is also a THENET X1F node
- thatwe're running since that version was out in a Paccomm Tiny 2
- and it hasn'tlocked up yet. Ron
- N8FOW------------------------------Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 19:30:13
- GMTFrom:
- usc!wupost!gumby!destroyer!cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualbe
- rta.ca!alberta!adec23!ve6mgs!mark@network.UCSD.EDUTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences <1a3cd1INNhhn@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>,
- <1992Sep27.181726.8929@ve6mgs.ampr.org>,
- <1992Sep28.172323.15265@cbfsb.cb.att.com>Subject : Re: Internet
- Gateway Policywa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey)
- sez:>I've been doing the above crossposting of selected articles
- from Internet>to packet, and visa versia. for some time now. By
- hand. I filter out>stuff the FCC might be unhappy with by
- hand.It is a familiar story.>I estimate I crosspost about one
- out of a thousand articles I see onI am more around 1 in 15 or
- so at times.The problem here is determining what is interesting.
- Also, you tend topost replies rather than original questions so
- the ability to digestand edit is important. If not, then
- complaints start filtering throughthat you are the cause of the
- overload on the packet system :-)Maybe the key here is to have
- this moderated data, many of us still willnot trust it, but at
- least the ratio of data that makes it through canbe higher.>of
- corrodination might be possible (segment by topic, maybe), (like
- I'll>do the mod files, you do sci.space.news of interest, or
- such). So we>don't have redundant stuff clogging things up.The
- problem is that the best the amateur community can do for
- segmentby topic on USENET is to have r.r.a.misc, r.r.a.packet
- making it anightmare trying to figure out who is responsible for
- which topic.Still sounds like we need a small group of people
- dealing with this,setting up BIDs and format standards for the
- information so that itcan be handled efficiently.Do we have any
- volunteers to take on the job of running a
- moderatedgroup/mailing list that would be willing to colate the
- editorialworks from several individuals (duties will be stomping
- on duplication,generating unique BIDs, ensuring articles are
- broken into 4K or so blocks,taking **** from individuals that
- feel your editorial decisions are bogus,or from making mistakes
- in judgement by missing a swear or two :-) ).The various groups
- of interest that should be handled: ARRL and other bulletins: -
- Keps - DX - propogation - ARES/RACES - SAREX - Ham Fest
- announcements Solar Reports (already handled by Cary Oler at the
- moment, you too can be on his mailing list ...) Mod
- information and tech reports Reviews New ideas: - new circuitry
- and ideas - packet protocols Short wave reports - SCDX -
- schedules Messages from packet Others?I'd volunteer, as editor,
- but first I will have to talk to my networkneighbors first, as I
- am a hitchiker, to determine what they feel aboutthe load I will
- be producing ... Also, I suspect my current MX recordwill be
- changing again shortly ... :-( Anyone more suitable willing
- tovolunteer to be this clearing house?We also should have
- volunteers to handle the subset information (there alreadyare
- several of you out there already doing this, and you know who
- you are)and do some format adjustment perhaps as well as making
- sure content isOK.Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark
- -sk-------------------------------Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992
- 17:14:17 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unoma
- ha.edu!cwis!pschleck@network.UCSD.EDUTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences
- <1992Sep27.181726.8929@ve6mgs.ampr.org>,
- <1992Sep28.172323.15265@cbfsb.cb.att.com>,
- <1992Sep29.193013.1905@ve6mgs.ampr.org>Subject : Possible Radio
- Newsgroup CFD? (was Re: Internet Gateway Policy)In
- rec.radio.amateur.packet, mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn)
- writes:>wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey) sez:>>I've
- been doing the above crossposting of selected articles from
- Internet>>to packet, and visa versia. for some time now. By
- hand. I filter out>>stuff the FCC might be unhappy with by
- hand.>It is a familiar story.>>I estimate I crosspost about one
- out of a thousand articles I see on>I am more around 1 in 15 or
- so at times.>The problem here is determining what is
- interesting. Also, you tend to>post replies rather than original
- questions so the ability to digest>and edit is important. If
- not, then complaints start filtering through>that you are the
- cause of the overload on the packet system :-)>Maybe the key
- here is to have this moderated data, many of us still will>not
- trust it, but at least the ratio of data that makes it through
- can>be higher.>>of corrodination might be possible (segment by
- topic, maybe), (like I'll>>do the mod files, you do
- sci.space.news of interest, or such). So we>>don't have
- redundant stuff clogging things up.>The problem is that the best
- the amateur community can do for segment>by topic on USENET is
- to have r.r.a.misc, r.r.a.packet making it a>nightmare trying
- to figure out who is responsible for which topic.>Still sounds
- like we need a small group of people dealing with this,>setting
- up BIDs and format standards for the information so that it>can
- be handled efficiently.>Do we have any volunteers to take on the
- job of running a moderated>group/mailing list that would be
- willing to colate the editorial>works from several individuals
- (duties will be stomping on duplication,>generating unique BIDs,
- ensuring articles are broken into 4K or so blocks,>taking ****
- from individuals that feel your editorial decisions are
- bogus,>or from making mistakes in judgement by missing a swear
- or two :-) ).>The various groups of interest that should be
- handled:> ARRL and other bulletins:> - Keps> - DX> -
- propogation> - ARES/RACES> - SAREX> - Ham Fest
- announcements> Solar Reports (already handled by Cary Oler at
- the moment, you> too can be on his mailing list ...)> Mod
- information and tech reports> Reviews> New ideas:> - new
- circuitry and ideas> - packet protocols> Short wave reports> -
- SCDX> - schedules> Messages from packet> Others?How about FAQ's
- and Elmers lists?>I'd volunteer, as editor, but first I will
- have to talk to my network>neighbors first, as I am a hitchiker,
- to determine what they feel about>the load I will be producing
- ... Also, I suspect my current MX record>will be changing again
- shortly ... :-( Anyone more suitable willing to>volunteer to be
- this clearing house?To be a moderator, you need some time on
- your hands, a reliable mailreceiving site (that will be stable
- for several years into the future)and the ability to absorb
- those once-in-a-blue-moon 30MB mail bombs whensomeone's
- misconfigured news server causes submissions to be mailed toyou
- from hundreds of duplicate sites. You also need to understand
- thesecurity-through-obscurity moderation mechanism.>We also
- should have volunteers to handle the subset information (there
- already>are several of you out there already doing this, and you
- know who you are)>and do some format adjustment perhaps as well
- as making sure content is>OK.>Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark -sk-This
- subject has been brought up by several different people in
- severaldifferent forums. The overwhelming desire for a combined
- filtered- gateway *AND* condensed information group for the
- rec.radio.amateurheirarchy is apparent. Since Mark has sort of
- volunteered to be amoderator (hi Mark!) perhaps we could
- undertake a formal Call forDiscussion for this newsgroup idea?
- Something like a rec.radio.news orrec.radio.info or
- rec.radio.announce. I'm sure if we included theexistence of
- authorized guest editors to contribute via the
- moderationmechanism (like with news.answers) we could spread the
- amount of workaround. Guest editors who themselves post
- periodic information articlescan take advantage of cross-posting
- so that the additional bandwidthimpact of this new newsgroup
- would be minimal. I can offer my services as a contributing
- editor and I can provide ahost in Middle America to collect the
- votes. If someone else is willingto undertake the construction
- of a CFD and CFV series of announcements(consult
- news.announce.newusers for more info) we could undertake
- thisproject.So, is there anyone else on the net that wants to
- translate talk intodecisive action?73, Paul W. Schleck,
- KD3FUpschleck@unomaha.edu------------------------------End of
- Packet-Radio Digest V92 #267******************************Date:
- Fri, 2 Oct 92 04:30:04 PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and
- Newsgroup <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #268To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Fri,
- 2 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 268Today's Topics:
- Converse/Chate Nodes ftp site for
- Macintosh SoftKiss? G8BPQ 6.0
- G8BPQ V6.0 available via FTP info
- request for "poor man's packet"
- Kantronics 3 Packet-Radio Digest V92 #267
- Problems: TheNet X1G rsgb
- gb2rs news 4th october 1992 Using the FT47
- for packet (2 msgs) Who runs WAMPES
- ?Send Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: 1 Oct 92 12:03:04 CSTFrom:
- tulane!agwbbs!Angelo_Glorioso_Iii@ames.arpaSubject:
- Converse/Chate NodesTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduHere is a copy of
- the
- docs.------------------------------------------------------------
- ------------------ New> TheNet Converse Node Firmware, written
- by DL8ZAW and now in use in the U.S., enables a TNC-2 toactas a
- networking conversational or QSO node. It appears on the
- network nodetables in the same manner as other nodes and
- supports multiple on-lineconferences (called circles in this
- text) between keyboard users. It canbeconnected to in the same
- manner as any network node. The following is based on a
- description written in German by DF3AV,translated by W9BVD and
- adapted to the WashDC area. The 27256 EPROM fits into a TNC-2 or
- clone (TNC-200, Tiny-2, MFJ-1270/1274,PK-88, etc.). The
- ConverseNode can be stand-alone or used within the AX.25node
- network either connecting to a multiple node stack through its
- RS-232port, through its radio port or both. A sysop terminal
- can be connected tothe RS-232 port instead of another TNC
- running networking software. TheConverseNode is a terminal node
- only and does not, itself, do networking.Itmakes node update
- broadcasts to make itself known to the network. The nodecan
- support 256 Channels of communication, each with two or
- moreparticipants in each Channel "circle". The operating
- parameters are set inthe firmware and cannot be changed by the
- sysop. These parameters arelocated in the same place as the
- parameters of TheNet firmware and can bemodified at the time the
- EPROM is programmed. Each participant in a circle receives all
- the information from every otherparticipant in the circle with
- each packet identified as to sender. Aparticipant can switch
- channels, leaving the others in the circle. They arenotified of
- his departure. If the new channel selected is unoccupied,
- anewcircle is created with one participant. On the new channel,
- the user canInvite other users to join him there. If the
- channel is occupied, thatcircle of users is notified of the
- arrival of the new station. Usingmulticonnects with
- multi-SSIDs, a user can hold simultaneous conversationson up to
- 15 channels. (This last is an exercise in mental stamina!)On
- first connecting with a ConverseNode, the user is placed on
- Channel 0,which is, in effect, the calling channel. As an
- example, assume a ConverseNode in the stack at the DCA nodes
- asDCCONV:K3AF-9. It is connected by RS-232 port with the other
- 8 DCA nodesandit has an RF port on 145.63. N4VA is vacationing
- near Front Royal andwantsto chat with anyone in the Washington
- area. He has long since becomedisillusioned with the CQ feature
- on the network nodes. (Explanations will have a ">>" placed
- before them, requests are in lowercaseand responses are in upper
- & lower case. >>First, N4VA connects with the node in Front
- Royal that has system links. c stp ******CONNECTED TO
- STP:W3CSG-1 c dcconvCONNECTED TO DCCONV:K3AF-9>Mini-Convers Type
- /? for help*** >> He has been automatically routed to the
- ConversNode at K3AF-9, probably>>thru the primary route of STP >
- STP4 > FDK4 > DCA3 > DCCONV. The network>>may have routed his
- connect thru #FDK2 and #DCA1 but that's notimportant. >> He is
- now logged on the DCCONV on Channel "0" and all text entered
- is>>transmitted to every other station on that channel, with the
- exception of>>text that is preceded with the command "/". >> He
- is prompted for input by the three: *** /help >>He enters the
- "HELP" command DCCONV:K3AF-9> /? Help /HELP
- Help /EXIT Terminate converse session /BYE
- Terminate converse session /QUIT
- Terminate converse session /CHANNEL n Switch to Channel
- n /INVITE user Invite (user call) to join your channel
- /WRITE user text Send text to one user only on the channel
- /MSG user text Send text to one user only on the channel
- /WHO List all users on the node and their channel
- numbers *** >>He is prompted for input by the ***>>He wants to
- know what other stations are logged on to the ConverseNode /who
- >> He might receive the following in reply from the node. User
- Circuit ChannelK4UW DCA:K3AF
- 1KD3FU DCA2:K3AF-2 35N7OO
- AZSE:N7OO-10 35K3AKK DCA4:K3AF-4 1W9BVD
- DCA3:K3AF-3 1N4VA STP:W3CSG-1
- 0*** >>The conversation on channel 35 is KD3FU working N7OO thru
- the stack of>>nodes and out the NATCAP 10 meter node to AZSE in
- Arizona.>>The circle on channel 1 is composed of K4UW, W9BVD and
- K3AKK, each coming>>in on a different node.>>N4VA sends the
- following command: /channel 1 >> At K4UW, W9BVD and K3AKK the
- following appears on the screen: ***N4VA signed on >>The circle
- now has four participants and all four screens might look
- like>>this: <K4UW>: Good morning, Larry. Where are you coming
- in from?<N4VA>: I'm connected in from STP. I'm sitting at the
- cabin with acomputeron my lap. See you have quite a gang on
- here this morning.<K3AKK>: Hi, Larry. Didn't know you were
- mountaineering this weekend.<W9BVD>: Hello, Larry and we missed
- you at the meeting on saturday.<N4VA>: OK, guys. I wasn't
- feeling well this weekend and decided tocome out here and try
- and shake a cold by sitting in front of a roaringfire. >>While
- this has been going on, KD3FU and N7OO on channel 35
- have>>disconnected. There is no indication of this on channel
- 1. If a station>>on channel 1 issued a /WHO command he (and
- only he) would get the list of>>stations currently connected to
- the node with their channel numbers. >>K4UW may make a private
- comment to W9BVD during the roundtable without>>the other
- participants seeing it.>>K4UW types: /msg w9bvd Must be nice
- with nothing to do but sit in front of a fire! >>The text would
- print only on W9BVD's screen: <*K4UW*> Must be nice with nothing
- to do but sit in front of a fire! >>If one of the stations sent
- a /WHO command and found KC3XC to havechecked>>in on channel 0,
- he could invite him to join the channel 1 conversation>>by
- typing: /invite kc3xc >>KC3XC would get the invitation to switch
- to channel 1 and would send: /channel 1 >>All the participants
- on the channel 1 circle would see: ***KC3XC signed on >>When
- leaving the circle, each participant would send: /quit or /exit
- - - - - -
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
- ------------sorry for the double spacing there.. If you need the
- code, just let meknow.. I will talk with the SysOp here and see
- if he can upload it for you.73 de Angelo-- Via DLG Pro
- v0.992Internet:angelo_glorioso_III@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US
- Usenet:rex!agwbbs!angelo_glorioso_III Packet:N5UXT @
- N5UXT.#NOLA.LA.USA.NA Tcp/ip:N5UXT.AMPT.ORG
- [44.108.2.13]------------------------------Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992
- 16:20:40 GMTFrom:
- dog.ee.lbl.gov!news!avalon.nwc.navy.mil!usenet@network.UCSD.EDUSu
- bject: ftp site for Macintosh SoftKiss?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduHello all, I want to build the Macintosh
- TNC featured in the latest 73magazine, but the internet address
- given in the article is wrong. Sodoes anyone know where I can
- ftp the SoftKiss control panel from???73,
- jan.------------------------------Date: 1 Oct 92 12:11:30
- CSTFrom:
- swrinde!sdd.hp.com!wupost!tulane!agwbbs!Angelo_Glorioso_Iii@netwo
- rk.UCSD.EDUSubject: G8BPQ 6.0To: packet-radio@ucsd.edu Someone
- earlier in the week mentioned a FTP site for G8BPQ
- PacketSwitching Software.. If possible, can someone let me know
- where it is.ThanksAngelo-- Via DLG Pro
- v0.992Internet:angelo_glorioso_III@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US
- Usenet:rex!agwbbs!angelo_glorioso_III Packet:N5UXT @
- N5UXT.#NOLA.LA.USA.NA Tcp/ip:N5UXT.AMPT.ORG
- [44.108.2.13]------------------------------Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992
- 18:41:39 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun.tamu.edu!cs.tamu.edu!kurt@network.UC
- SD.EDUSubject: G8BPQ V6.0 available via FTPTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1992Sep22.152636.21121@news.uni-stuttgart.de>,
- gross@ifsws1.sozialforschung.uni-stuttgart.de (Frank Grossmann
- [DL1SBR]) writes:|> |> version 6.0 of the G8BPQ node switch is
- available|> from ifsws1.sozialforschung.uni-stuttgart.de
- 141.58.162.1|> /pub/g8bpq/bpq406.zipHas anybody been able to get
- this? I timeout when I try to FTP there.Or, is there another
- site that has it? I'm awaiting a bugfix for
- FBB/TEXNETinteraction.73/Kurt-- Kurt Freiberger, wb5bbw
- kurt@cs.tamu.edu 409/847-8607 fax:409/847-8578Dept. of
- Computer Science, Texas A&M University DoD #264: BMW R80/7
- pilot"We preserve our freedom using three boxes: ballot, jury,
- and cartridge." *** Not an official document of Texas A&M
- University ***------------------------------Date: 1 Oct 92
- 12:07:26 GMTFrom:
- bonnie.concordia.ca!hobbit.ireq.hydro.qc.ca!vaillan@uunet.uu.netS
- ubject: info request for "poor man's packet"To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1992Sep28.203455.19992@news.columbia.edu>
- jdl@lena.cc.columbia.edu (John Louie) writes:>hi,>>I've just
- read an article about a kit, that would cost about 30 dollars to
- >make, which gives you packet on the mac. (_73 amateur radio
- today_ oct >'92)>>in that same issue I see a small p/review
- (for PacComm's Baymod-9 $65) >and an ad for Tigertronics's
- BayPac model BP-1 ($50). Does anybody have >any experience
- with these products? Apperently, via software and by use >of
- the computers serial line chip, the cost of getting on the air
- with >packet is greatly reduced. I was wondering if you lose
- any features? as >compared to say the full blown TNC's that
- cost over 100 dollars?>>also, any pointers to other kits that
- can be made for under 50 bucks >or any opinions from anyone that
- has made or tried any of the above>greatly appreciated.>>john
- N2RJEI am using a Baypack BP-1 on an old (very old) Phillips Ibm
- compatiblewithout problems. My radio is an Icom Ic-w2a.Clem.
- VE2HQJ-- Clement Vaillancourt, | Institut de
- Recherche d'Hydro-Quebec Analyste, |
- Varennes, P. Quebec, Canada, J3X 1S1 Division Informatique
- scientifique| Tel:+1 514 652 8238 Fax:+1 514 652 8309
- vaillan@ireq.hydro.qc.ca | Radio-amateur:
- VE2HQJ@VE2CSC.PQ.CAN.NA------------------------------Date: 1 Oct
- 92 22:08:43 GMTFrom:
- netnews.upenn.edu!hp800.lasalle.edu!kupiec@RUTGERS.EDUSubject:
- Kantronics 3To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduDoes anyone have any
- comments (good or bad) about the Kantronics3 TNC? This is the
- one that is VHF+ and retails for ~$100.A comparison to a PK-88
- would also be helpful. If I get enoughreplies I will summarize
- to the net.Thanks.-- \/\ Bob Kupiec - Amateur Radio: N3MML
- UUCP: (Machine is down, please) /\/\//\/\ Internet:
- kupiec@hp800.lasalle.edu (use INTERNET address.)
- /\/\/\\/\/\ LaSalle University, 20th St. & Olney Ave.,
- Philadelphia, PA /\/\/\//\/\/\ Self-Quote: "I'm MS-DOS
- free: never had it, never will."
- /\/\/\/\------------------------------Date: 1 Oct 1992 22:10:56
- -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #267To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI have a PK-232 problem
- (I am in contact with AEA, but would like a second opinion): I
- just installed the latest ROM upgrade and added the MBX
- maildrop. If I post several (more than one) messages to my
- maildrop for reverse forwarding, the polling/receiving PBBS,
- KB1BD-4, gets a "Bad" from me and disconnects. Thus it picks up
- one message at a time. The BBS is running the latest version
- of PRMBS. According to AEA (who asked me to send a log that
- showed the problem) the BBS sends an acknowledgement in the form
- of "RCVD #nnnn...." and AEA says it should only be sending me
- "F>" and nothing else. AEA says "Tell the sysop to suppress
- that message." KB1BD says "No can do. No one else has this
- problem..." Anyone know any workarounds? Thanks, in
- advance. 73, Gerry P.S. What software are you using folks
- that puts all those >>>>> infront of the quoted stuff? Gotta be
- automatic, no? --__________________________Gerry
- Jurrens_____________________________Gerald J. Jurrens N2GJ |
- Black holes are where God divided by zero!P.O. Box 147
- | Internet : n2gj@phsbbs.princeton.njKingston, NJ 08528-0147 |
- Packet : N2GJ@KB1BD.NJ.USA.NOAM(609) 924-6431 home | GEnie
- : G.JURRENSMATHTECH, Inc. | C$ :
- 70550,2020(609) 520-3847 office | AT&T Mail: GJURRENS (The
- opinions expressed herein are mine, and only mine...)-----Gerry
- Jurrens, Princeton High School BBSDNS:
- n2gj@phsbbs.princeton.nj.us UUCP:
- ...!princeton!phsbbs!n2gjDisclaimer: Author bears full
- responsibility for this
- message.------------------------------Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992
- 11:20:24 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!usc!rpi!clarkson!cheetah.ece.clarkson.edu!tadd@network
- .UCSD.EDUSubject: Problems: TheNet X1GTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edumgb@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil writes:>I've run
- into a problem with this version that I would be interested
- in>knowing whether anyone else has experienced.>Specifically...
- it is crashing. I have tested it with 3 different>Paccomm
- Micro-Powers, and what appears to happen is that the
- bank>switching signal from pin 16 of the SIO is getting loaded
- down and>then the whole thing bombs. This is a guess based on
- the loss of the>flickering STA led, and a total lack of response
- from either the HDLC>or serial port. Need to put a scope on
- it, but have not done so yet.>This symtom seems to occur right
- after a coldstart SOMETIMES. When you>turn the tnc on, the sta
- led comes on solid, starts to flicker, gives>one bright "flick"
- and then dies... other times, you get the same thing>but after
- the bright flick, it continues to run. This may in some way>be
- related to the specific tnc (??) and not the code itself... at
- this>point it is hard for me to say.. but I'd be curious to know
- if anyone>else has seen it.>Thanks,>Mark BitterlichMark, You
- might lift pin 16 of the SIO and wire to it in free space. Then
- the load will be only one device. I've been jumpering pin 16
- and 23, and pins 24 and 25 on the SIO while lifting pins 16 and
- 25. This causes the STA and CON lights to show RS232 control
- line activity for matrix diagnostics. Pin 16 and 25 are free
- for wiring too now. Tadd, KA2DEW
- tadd@cheetah.ece.clarkson.edu>mgb@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil>wa3jpy@wb4
- uou.nc.usa.noam [Amateur Packet Radio
- address]------------------------------Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992
- 20:15:30 +0000From:
- pipex!demon!tedb.demon.co.uk!ted@uunet.uu.netSubject: rsgb gb2rs
- news 4th october 1992To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduGB2RS NEWS
- BROADCASTGood morning. It's Sunday the 4th of October and here
- is the GB2RS newsbroadcast, prepared by the Radio Society of
- Great Britain.This week we have news for Jamboree on the Air
- stations, microwaveenthusiasts, repeater keepers and RSGB
- members in Shropshire; plus all theusual DX, contest, rally,
- propagation and club news.The 35th Jamboree On the Air takes
- place over the weekend of Saturday the 17thand Sunday the 18th
- of October. Scouts and Guides all over the world will beusing
- amateur radio to celebrate their shared interest. Any
- participatinggroup may obtain a full list of JOTA stations by
- sending a largeSelf-Addressed Stamped Envelope to Sylvia Manco,
- RSGB, Lambda House, CranborneRoad, Potters Bar, Herts, postcode
- EN6 3JE.The next RSGB Microwave Round Table meeting has been
- arranged for Sunday the18th of October. This meeting is the
- scheduled Autumn event of the Southernseries, now held at a
- range of venues across the south of England. The venueis the
- Flight Refuelling Amateur Radio Society Club, Wimborne, Dorset,
- whichis signposted from the Wimborne by-pass. The meeting will
- start between 10.00and 10.30am. It will feature an open forum;
- items under construction andcomplete stations; a bring and buy
- sale; a calibration and alignment session,and a short
- presentation. Further details can be obtained by telephoning
- TedJewell, G4ELM, on 0730 892462All RSGB members should by now
- have received October's Radio Communication.There are several
- items concerning licensing: The attention of those in chargeof
- speech, RTTY or TV repeaters is directed to the article Repeater
- FranchiseUpdate on page 8. This deals with the Letter of
- Authority to Operate, validuntil the 31st of March 1993.
- Repeater groups who need this letter willreceive it soon. The
- only group which will not receive this letter is GB3BM.We
- apologise to the GB3GC group who were incorrectly listed in the
- RadComarticle as not having responded. Page 6 of the same
- edition invites commentson a proposal to introduce Aeronautical
- Mobile into the UK Amateur RadioLicence. Also on page 6 is a
- request for data from VHF operators to assist theRSGB in
- preparing its submission to the Spectrum Review being carried
- out bythe Radiocommunications Agency.Attention RSGB members in
- Shropshire:The new RLO for Shropshire is David Whalley, G4EIX,
- whose address is: 1 LeesFarm Drive, Madeley, Telford,
- Shropshire. His telephone number is 0952 588878.Now some items
- of HF DX news from the weekly RSGB DX News Sheet which isedited
- by Brendan McCartney, G4DYO. From Turks and Caicos,the Turks and
- CaicosAmateur Radio Society will sign VP500CC from Friday the
- 9th to Monday the 12thof October from Grand Turk to commemorate
- Columbus's landfall on that island500 years ago. From Swaziland,
- a group of UK amateurs will sign 3DA/G3SXW,3DA/G3TXF and
- 3DA/G4FAM from Saturday the 10th to Sunday the 18th of
- October.They will cover the nine HF bands 160 to 10 metres using
- CW only. Specialeffort will be made to use grey-line LF openings
- into Europe. Sunrise time is0320 GMT and sunset is 1600 GMT.
- Check these frequencies:- 1833, 3503, 7003,10103, 14023, 18073,
- 21023, 24893 and 28023 kHz. They will listen between oneand two
- kilohertz HF. From Minami Torishima, JA1KJW will be active
- asJA1KJW/JD1 from Iwo Jima from today until the 14th of October,
- on the 80 to 10metre bands.Rally news now, and we know of three
- events for today Sunday the 4th.The Blackwood and District
- Amateur Radio Society Rally is being held at theOakdale
- Community College, Blackwood, Gwent. Doors open at 10.30am and
- theevent features traders, a bring and buy. Talk-in is on
- channel S22. The GreatLumley Radio Rally is being held at the
- Community Centre, Great Lumley, NrChester-le-Street, County
- Durham. Doors open at 11am, 10.30am for disabledvisitors. The
- event features trade stands, a bring and buy, and
- refreshmentsare available. The Wincanton Radio and Electronics
- Rally is being held at theWincanton Racecourse, Somerset. Doors
- open at 10.00am and the event featurestrade stands, car boot
- sale and refreshments will be available. Talk-in willbe on
- channel S22.There are three events for next Sunday the 11th of
- October.The Armagh and Dungannon and District Amateur Radio
- Society Rally is to beheld at the Gosford House Hotel,
- Markethill, County Armagh. Doors will open at12.00 noon. The
- event features the usual traders, a bring and buy
- andrefreshments will be available. Talk-in is on channel S22.
- Further details canbe obtained from GI8RLE, by telephoning 0762
- 870423.The Hornsea Amateur Radio Club Rally will be held at the
- Floral Hall, Hornsea,North Humberside. Doors will open at 11am,
- 10.30am for disabled visitors. Theevent features trade stands, a
- bring and buy. Further details can be obtainedfrom G4IGY, by
- telephoning 0964 533331.The South Devon Radio Club's
- 'Computercation 92' Computer and Radio Rally isto be held at the
- Hillhead Camp Site, Dartmouth Road, Brixham, Devon. Doorswill
- open at 10.00am and the event features trade stands, car boot
- sale andrefreshments. Talk-in will be on channel S22 via GB4CPU.
- Unlimited freeparking and overnight camping. Further details can
- be obtained from G6ZRM bytelephoning 0803 522216.Next some dates
- for your diary.The Conference of the World Association of
- Christian Radio Amateurs andListeners will take place on Friday
- the 9th to Sunday the 11th of October, atthe High Leigh
- Conference Centre, Hoddesdon, Herts. Further details
- areavailable from G4EZU, by telephoning 0474 533686. The
- Leicester Amateur Radioand Electronics Exhibition will take
- place at the Granby Halls, AylestoneRoad, Leicester, during
- Friday the 23rd and Saturday the 24th of October. Seethe centre
- pages of October's RadCom for further details.HF Contest news
- now:During Friday the 9th of October, the next leg of the RSGB
- QRS CumulativeContest will take place. This event features slow
- Morse and further detailscan be found in July's RadCom. Next
- weekend, Saturday the 10th and Sunday the11th, sees the VK-ZL CW
- Contest. September RadCom page 14 has further details.Also next
- Sunday the RSGB's 21/28MHz Telephony Contest will take place
- between0700 and 1900GMT. See April RadCom page 66 for further
- details.Next the VHF/UHF Contest news:The next RSGB event is the
- 1.3 and 2.3GHz Cumulative next Tuesday the 6th ofOctober. It
- runs from 1930 to 2200GMT and June RadCom has further
- details.And now the solar factual data:This week we cover the
- period 21st to 27th September. Although the quiet sideof the sun
- was looking our way with no flare activity of any note, the
- spotnumbers and solar flux levels hardly changed. Despite this,
- ionospheric levelsrose and HF band conditions considerably
- improved up to the best for over ayear. Sun spot counts have
- been reasonably steady and meaned around 107. Thesolar flux
- levels slightly rose over the week and averaged 114 units but
- theday-to-day variations were very small. The geomagnetic Ap
- indices have beenbasically quiet most of the time and averaged
- 7.5 units, though the 24th and27th were down to only 3 units -
- very quiet. The state has been nil, nothingto report, throughout
- the period. The radio quality indices improved up toexcellent,
- with the Fort Collins and Tokyo circuits being extremely good.
- TheMoscow circuits were the poorest but even so, they were above
- normal all theperiod. The aa indices, as supplied by the British
- Geological Survey for theperiod 15th to 21st September, gave a
- daily average of 31.6 nanoTeslas.However, the 17th was very
- disturbed with some aurora, and levels averaged91.9 with periods
- up to 136 nanoTeslas.Now the ionospheric data for England and
- Wales:The F2 daytime critical frequencies at Slough, as reported
- by Appleton,averaged 9.1MHz with levels hardly changing day to
- day. Peak level times arenow about 1400 hours. The darkness hour
- lows averaged 2.7MHz but there havebeen some periods when the
- ionosonde was unserviceable.Now the ionospheric data for the
- north:The F2 daytime critical frequencies at Irkutsk averaged
- 8.0MHz and thedarkness hour lows 2.9MHz. The Ap estimated
- planetary Ap index which is givenin GB2RS data is derived from
- magnetometers at College, Alaska; Goose Bay,Newfoundland;
- Loring, Maine; Boulder, Colorado and Upper Heyford, UK.And
- lastly the solar forecast:This week, the more active side of the
- sun will be looking our way and solarflux levels are expected to
- be about the 120s. Geomagnetic activity isexpected to be mainly
- unsettled to quiet levels. Ionospheric MUFs duringdaylight are
- expected be about 24MHz. and the darkness hour lows 18MHz,
- with14MHz being best for east/west contacts around midnight.And
- that is the end of the solar information.Finally in the main
- news, the licence issuing agency, SSL, has informed theSociety
- that as of last Wednesday morning, the latest callsigns issued
- were inthe G0 S M and G7 N T series, and Novice calls in the 2 0
- A D and2 1 B C series.You're listening to GB2RS, the news
- broadcasting service of the Radio Societyof Great Britain,
- transmitting in the 80, 40, 6 and 2 metre
- bands.------------------------------Date: 1 Oct 92 12:19:52
- GMTFrom: mcsun!uknet!icsbelf!johna@uunet.uu.netSubject: Using
- the FT47 for packetTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduHi all,I have an FT
- 470 which I wish to use with my PacComm Tiny-2 for packetradio
- use. So far I have managed to connect the radio to the TNC andam
- able to connect to only a few stations. When I monitor my
- owntransmitted audio on a scanner, the audio is at a very low
- level in comparison to that of the other radios I use for
- packet. My TNC is connected directly to my FT 470 without any
- special interfacing and I think that it needs some interface to
- provideaudio at the correct level for the FT470.Has anyone an
- experience in interfacing the FT 470 to a TNC, if soI would be
- grateful for details of how you went about it. Thanksin advance
- !!!--
- =================================================================
- ============ John Agnew, johna@icsbelf.co.uk
- ICS Computing Group Ltd, ...!uknet!icsbelf!johna Belfast
- (N.I) Gi6IRL@GB7TED.GBR.EU [44.131.15.11]
- ------------------------------Date: 2 Oct 1992 01:35:34 GMTFrom:
- usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.in
- s.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!au297@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- Using the FT47 for packetTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn a previous
- article, johna@icsbelf.co.uk (John Agnew) says:>Hi all,>>I have
- an FT 470 which I wish to use with my PacComm Tiny-2 for
- packet>radio use. So far I have managed to connect the radio to
- the TNC and>am able to connect to only a few stations. When I
- monitor my own>transmitted audio on a scanner, the audio is at a
- very low level in >comparison to that of the other radios I use
- for packet. >>My TNC is connected directly to my FT 470 without
- any special >interfacing and I think that it needs some
- interface to provide>audio at the correct level for the
- FT470.>>Has anyone an experience in interfacing the FT 470 to a
- TNC, if so>I would be grateful for details of how you went about
- it. Thanks>in advance !!!>>>>>-- >
- =================================================================
- ============> John Agnew,
- johna@icsbelf.co.uk> ICS Computing Group Ltd,
- ...!uknet!icsbelf!johna> Belfast (N.I)
- Gi6IRL@GB7TED.GBR.EU [44.131.15.11] > If you receive an
- answer to this problem, please let me know.. A friend ofmine is
- having a similar problem!.. Thx!! :) -- ZZzzz-Ya!
- | -TSA- Member: (KB8NHT) ...Jim | <: Dies
- Irae :> | COMBAT ZONE BBS-> usr1118a@tso.uc.edu
- <- |
- (513)367-1522------------------------------Date: 2 Oct 1992
- 01:18:51 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Who runs
- WAMPES ?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduJust asking who is running
- wampes ?Im just getting sorted out with it .. just to test..
- First thoughts are itsa bit Antiquated compaired to WNOS ok
- very stable but much out of touchwith the latest tech.. PM-NOS
- is nice But it has not got an AX25 Autorouterit seems to use the
- NetRom which is dead in these parts.Ok if there is any one with
- wampes and you have any config tips hintsand doc's can you
- please post them ... I know the wampes author is notlikely to
- ever make even the simplest install guide, well thats life.
- ah!anyone got any helpfull info then
- ??barry.------------------------------Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92
- 17:15:13 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!
- cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!alberta!adec23!mark@
- network.UCSD.EDUTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences
- <1a3cd1INNhhn@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>, <BvAnp3.1Hv@tegra.com>,
- <343@unbc.edu>xg.ubc.Subject : Re: Internet Gateway
- Policyvail@tegra.com (Johnathan Vail) sez:> Many moons ago I
- suggested adding a field like "X-Amateur-Callsign: "> to email
- and new articles. This would be done by hams for stuff>
- suitable to be forwarded automatically.OK, and X-Amateur-Bid: I
- hope too, forgot the details, but I remember thesuggestion.>
- Many people pointed the obvious ease at how this could be
- forged. So> what. At least this is a starting point for trust
- and can be used to> seperate certifiable stuff from articles
- that are not suitable for> gateway.I agree, but I can wonder out
- loud that we may not be saving the dedicatedgateway operators
- any trouble as they will read everything and pass nothing ...(It
- won't for me).But, then Lyndon/VE7TCP sez:>Giving someone a
- false sense of security will only get them into trouble.>Program
- a neophyte gateway operater to think that
- "X-Amateur-Approved">is OK then he probably will. That won't do
- anything to save his *** when >this posting makes it through the
- gateway.I doubt, with the regulations in W or VE land, that we
- will EVER see automatednews to packet gateways (mail to packet
- `maybe' with some form ofauthentication). I think that the only
- way this will happen is for someoneto gateway the messages and
- then forge their own address :-}>Wishful thinking is not reality
- - don't confuse the two. If you really>want to do something
- productive, start by looking at technology such as>public key
- authentication.On packet ... against the regs ... carry this to
- r.r.a.policy orprivate e-mail if you disagree.Over usenet (news)
- HAH! I'l make a naughty article, and Approve it fordistribution
- by acknowledging any encrypted authentication responsesand make
- you extremely happy.>As a sidenote to those talking about
- writing "naughty bits" filters, howSee my Summary:I think,
- Lyndon, you are too pessimistic about what people are capable
- of.But I agree somewhat with your criticism if you (or others)
- could point toa good RFC for doing this `safely'.Lets say the
- mail list message goes out, then a authentication message
- goesback (we are assuming that many of the gateway operators are
- NOT directlyon the wire, so e-mail level authentication), and
- then the message goes ontopacket. I'l lay odds the delay would
- be up to two days (as the moderatorwould also have to read it to
- ensure it is OK, and he works regular hours).`SOLAR STORM
- WARNING THIS AFTERNOON, HIDE UNDER SHEETS UNTIL 3PM TODAY'My
- offer is still open to run a mailing list to the gateway
- operators thatwant to start up this service. Send me e-mail
- indicating which messages ofinterest you would be willing to
- clear for the community, or if you areinterested in receiving a
- mail list feed. I'l see what happens ...Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark
- -sk-------------------------------Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 16:52:22
- GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!
- cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!alberta!adec23!mark@
- network.UCSD.EDUTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences
- <1a3cd1INNhhn@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>,
- <1992Sep27.181726.8929@ve6mgs.ampr.org>,
- <342@unbc.edu>cs.ualSubject : Re: Internet Gateway
- Policylyndon@unbc.edu (Lyndon Nerenberg) sez:>No joy. Any foole
- can forge moderated postings. The buck, as always, stops>with
- the gateway operator.Actually, there is joy. I doubt any self
- respecting fool would let ANYmessage (- SOLAR reports :-) go
- through automatically, but it would be niceif one can feel that
- the article has been poured over by at least oneindividual
- `possibly' to make the duties of us crazed enough to read allthe
- articles in r.r.* groups just to find the tidbits ... Many
- have(personally) indicated they would prefer a mailing list
- (also forgeable,but at least out of sight, out of mind).>As for
- SB/EX formatting: just what kind of archaic software are you
- running?>Those aren't NNTP commands :-)I may take this as a
- personal attack :-) My gateway has always offeredflow through
- sans the SB/EX stuff with even some imaginative BID handlingfor
- packet. Now if I were only in an area that had packet
- connectivity :-}The advantage of this format is any joe that
- wished to gateway articles needonly feed the article verbatum
- via his terminal emulation package and he befine !?Now, if that
- were an attack on the packet system, well, what can I say
- ...Maybe we set up the articles to look like SMTP messages to
- the packet board?Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark
- -sk-------------------------------End of Packet-Radio Digest V92
- #268******************************Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 04:30:03
- PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #269To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Sat,
- 3 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 269Today's Topics:
- ftp site for Macintosh SoftKiss? info
- request for "poor man's packet" Packet path
- to Chicago, IL: Telemetry Standards
- Using the FT47 for packetSend Replies or notes
- for publication to: <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription
- requests to: <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't
- solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 08:29:35 -0400 From:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu
- .edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!aw0g
- +@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: ftp site for Macintosh SoftKiss?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduThe SoftKiss software from the 73 artical
- is available fromakutaktak.andrew.cmu.edu [128.2.35.1].
- ------------------------------Date: 30 Sep 92 03:14:36 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!gatech!pitt!darth!n3eop!paul@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- info request for "poor man's packet"To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edujdl@lena.cc.columbia.edu (John Louie)
- writes:> and an ad for Tigertronics's BayPac model BP-1 ($50).
- Does anybody have > any experience with these products?
- Apperently, via software and by use > of the computers serial
- line chip, the cost of getting on the air with > packet is
- greatly reduced. I was wondering if you lose any features? as
- > compared to say the full blown TNC's that cost over 100
- dollars?First of all, you lose the ability to turn off the
- computer and let the TNC operate as a digi, mailbox, etc. As
- the computer does all the bit manipulation in the Baycom/Poor
- Man's Packet (software TNC) method, you need your computer on,
- and running the software, to be able to do anything at all on
- packet.All stand-alone TNCs can do some operations without a
- host computer; namely, digipeat other signals, and can be used
- with a "dumb" terminal (something I'm doing now... the computer
- is obviously being used to reply to you...). The newer TNCs
- also have a "mailbox" function which is essentially a mini BBS.
- All these functions are built into the box.Is it worth the extra
- $50-$75? I think so; you might
- not.------------------------------Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:51:38
- GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unoma
- ha.edu!cwis.unomaha.edu!rerickso@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Packet
- path to Chicago, IL:To: packet-radio@ucsd.edu73,
- RonAK0N------------------------------Date: 2 Oct 1992 11:10:49
- -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Telemetry
- StandardsTo: packet-radio@ucsd.edu GreetingsI'm looking to
- update the proposed amateur satellite telemetry downlinkand
- archive standards, prior to publication.Is there anyone out
- there with experience in the fields who'd like tosupply some
- input? Joe W3/G3ZCZjkasser@stdads.las.loral.com
- ------------------------------Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:38:00
- GMTFrom:
- usc!sdd.hp.com!hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvaac!hpcvaac.cv.hp.com!crh@network
- .UCSD.EDUSubject: Using the FT47 for packetTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1ag916INNq8d@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, au297@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
- (Jim Evers) writes:|> |> In a previous article,
- johna@icsbelf.co.uk (John Agnew) says:|> |> >Hi all,|> >|> >I
- have an FT 470 which I wish to use with my PacComm Tiny-2 for
- packetFor those that may have missed it Sept of last year :-)
- :>In article <1991Sep27.033057.22510@agate.berkeley.edu>
- ajk@garnet.berkeley.edu (Adam Jacobs N2LAW) writes:>>>>1. Does
- anyone have the exact wiring specifications for the Yaesu>>side
- of the cable to the TNC? Is "where do I plug it in" a
- stupid>>question? Presumably the MIC and EAR jacks, but how is
- the MIC jack>>configured -- if it's (as the manual specifies) a
- 2-conductor>>micro-mini phone jack, then what do I do with the
- PTT signal? Or is>>there something else I should know? I can
- wire the cable all right,>>but I have no appetite for blindly
- trying configurations on an>>expensive piece of equipment. Do I
- have to open the unit up?>>The FT470 is wired like an Icom. You
- connect the audio from the TNC>to the tip of the mike plug
- through a capacitor and connect the PTT>to the tip with a
- resistor. The Icoms and Yaesus use a "leaky ground">to generate
- PTT. The problem with this approach is there is a
- tradeoff>between rapid PTT and audio level and response. Typical
- values are>.1 ufd and 2.2 k ohms. The RC time constant limits TR
- turnaround.>>A better scheme is to use a tiny audio transformer
- sideways like so,>>>TNC PTT----------))))))))))))------------>
- radio tip (audio)> ============>TNC AF
- OUT-------))))))))))))----X--------> radio sleeve (gnd)>
- |>TNC
- GND--------------------------|>>You can rip a suitable
- transformer out of an old transistor radio or>buy one from Radio
- Shack.>>>2. Suppose I want to run the HT off a 12V external
- power supply.>>Where do I feed the power? Not the battery
- terminals, I hope. I>>would have expected a DC power jack
- somewhere on the unit, but again I>>don't see anything except a
- mysterious looking rubber
- plug-which-might->>hide-a-jack-but-I'm-afraid-to-pull-it-and-look
- . The manual, again,>>says nothing about this.>>The 2 meter
- only model does have a power jack under the rubber plug, but>the
- 470 doesn't. There's a place on the board for one, but Yaesu
- recomends>that you use a PA-6 module instead. This is a module
- that mounts in place>of the battery and contains regulators for
- running the radio and charging>a battery connected to the bottom
- of the PA-6. This is a really nice>accessory and well worth the
- price.>>>3. Anything else (useful modifications, hints,
- caveats) I should know>>about the FT-470 (or PK-88?)>>Just the
- standard remarks that you should carefully set the audio
- level>so you wind up with a 3 khz deviation for your tones.
- Don't exceed that>level or many units will have trouble decoding
- your packets. Make sure>you have the power saver on the 470
- turned off when you run packet or>you'll miss the first part of
- every packet. This can drive you nuts>because everything seems
- to be working but nothing prints.>>One last note. Use a separate
- antenna and use shielded cables on your>TNC. Otherwise the RFI
- and RF feedback will ruin your packet operation.>>Gary KE4ZVRon
- WA7TAScrh@cv.hp.com------------------------------Date: 2 Oct 92
- 13:37:27 PSTFrom:
- swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.n
- z!amigans!glasgow!zoltar@network.UCSD.EDUTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences
- <01GP5X9FB5DC94MTES@HOBBES.CCA.CR.ROCKWELL.COM>,
- <zoltar.0784@glasgow.amigans.gen.nz>,
- <1992Sep28.161606.11206@nessie.mcc.ac.uk>Subject : Re: AmigaNOS
- on A500In article <1992Sep28.161606.11206@nessie.mcc.ac.uk>
- john@goshawk.mcc.ac.uk (John Heaton) writes:>>Oh dear, Hmm..
- sounds like I would be just a tad out of reach of using
- >>it,seeing as I only have 2 drives and 1 meg of memory..
- (sigh..)>Hmmmm, I thought it was just the UK hams who ran Amiga
- from floppy. >>I will compile a cut down version of AmigaNOS if
- you want..>That would be great!! There are a lot of amigas out
- there that only runon a meg.. I am going to the local Ham meet
- this coming Monday andI will see if someone can help me with
- tutoring to get me started...Cheers, and 73's (is that right?)
- Maybe someone could post a list of Ham grrets..
- :-)Cheers,Grant--
- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
- \/ Grant Thoms (Zoltar) Co-Sysop of `Silent Imperium' BBS
- // Zoltar@Glasgow.Amigans.Gen.NZ\X/
- ---- Standard Quote: `Insert $10 for the
- next 0.5 seconds' *** Opinions expressed are my
- own
- ***\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
- \/\/\------------------------------End of Packet-Radio Digest
- V92 #269******************************Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92
- 04:30:02 PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #270To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Sun,
- 4 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 270Today's Topics:
- Internet Gateway newsgroup cfd? Wyse
- model 50 pinoutsSend Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 21:55:12 GMTFrom:
- w3vh!rolfe@uunet.uu.netSubject: Internet Gateway newsgroup
- cfd?To: packet-radio@ucsd.edurob@phoenix.erc.clarkson.edu writes
- in article <1992Sep28.141911.4070@news.clarkson.edu>:> > > Why
- not forget this whole packet/INTERNET gateway garbage and just
- start > > connecting our litle pockets of IP activity directly
- to the INTERNET??> > How do you stop a ham user from accepting
- an offer on misc.forsale?> You don't, because there is no
- problem in that instance (i.e. it'sno different than swap nets,
- which according to an FCC advisory, areexplicitly legal.) Rolfe
- Tessem Lucky Duck Productionsrolfe@w3vh.UUCP
- 96 Morton Street, NYC, NY 10014rolfe@ldp.com
- 212-463-0029------------------------------Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992
- 20:58:07 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!swrinde!gatech!nscf!wa4phy!sam@network.UCSD.EDUSubject
- : Wyse model 50 pinoutsTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduCan someone
- please send me the modem and auxillary port pinouts for aWyse
- mod 50 terminal. I've acquired 4 of the beasts, but no docs
- forthem.Thanks...-- Sam Drinkard internet:
- wa4phy!sam@galois.nscf.org WA4PHY amprnet:
- wa4phy@wa4phy.ampr.org------------------------------End of
- Packet-Radio Digest V92 #270******************************Date:
- Mon, 5 Oct 92 04:30:04 PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and
- Newsgroup <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #271To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Mon,
- 5 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 271Today's Topics:
- Need Apple II Interfacing Info Wyse
- model 50 pinoutsSend Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: 4 Oct 1992 19:08:01 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Need Apple II Interfacing
- InfoTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI recently sold a KPC-2 to a friend
- and he wants to put put it onan old Apple II thats collecting
- dust. He needs info on the TNC to computer connection. I
- believe the Apple uses a DIN connector forserial communications
- (I haven't seen it). He is also in need ofsotware. Any
- recommendations would be appreciated as would sourcesof this
- software.ThanksRon -
- KA5LUGRON@NSULA.EDU------------------------------Date: 5 Oct 92
- 02:58:00 MSTFrom:
- usc!wupost!darwin.sura.net!spool.mu.edu!news.cs.indiana.edu!arizo
- na.edu!evax2.engr.arizona.edu!PETRISKO@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- Wyse model 50 pinoutsTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1992Oct3.205807.26458@wa4phy.ampr.org>, sam@wa4phy.ampr.org
- (Sam Drinkard) writes:>>Can someone please send me the modem and
- auxillary port pinouts for a>Wyse mod 50 terminal. I've
- acquired 4 of the beasts, but no docs for>them.>>Thanks...I was
- going to send email, but thought this might be of interest to
- everyone. Wyse can be reached at 1-800-800-WYSE. They have a
- faxbackservice available 24hrs/day, with several hundred topics
- available onall of their terminals. The pinout for a wyse50 is
- document #11307.-bill--bill petrisko
- petrisko@evax2.engr.arizona.edu aka n7lwo
- ...!uunet!4gen!warlok!gargle!omnisec!thumper!bill----------------
- --------------End of Packet-Radio Digest V92
- #271******************************Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 04:30:03
- PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #272To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Tue,
- 6 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 272Today's Topics:
- AmigaNOS 2.9g help needed.Clarification of my question
- abou - NOS 911229 2.0m SMTP mail handling
- Digi-Board 4 port SIO Ethernet driver
- FT-470 on packet
- G8BPQ 6.0 Ftp Site Help with PA0GRI NOS (KA9Q)
- 911229 2.0m Icom 229-H transmitter slow to start
- Is Anyone using MSYS ??
- Packet Survey 1992 Wyse model 50
- pinoutsSend Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: 5 Oct 1992 12:36:53 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: AmigaNOS 2.9g help needed.To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduHello,Has anybody come up with a
- documentation set for AmigaNOS yet?Does anyone know the fix to
- stop monitored information packets in thetrace mode from
- overwriting the previously printed line?73, ErichAX.25: KA6AMD
- @ WA6YBN.#SOCA.CA.USA.NAInternet:
- muschinske%39a.decnet@sunman.chinalake.navy.mil------------------
- ------------Date: 5 Oct 1992 19:30:29 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!caen!destroyer!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!po.CWRU.Edu!
- axa12@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Clarification of my question abou
- - NOS 911229 2.0m SMTP mai l han
-
- dlingTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI had previously asked whether it
- is possible for NOS to bouncemail that arrives for a
- "non-existent" user on my system.Specifically, is there anyway
- that I can have NOS check the /alias file and/or the /ftpusers
- file when mail arrives at mysystem via SMTP. If the addressee
- if not in one of those files, canNOS automatically bounce the
- mail back to the sender (again via SMTP).Is there any version of
- NOS that will do this. I have tried WG7J NOS1.04 and PA0GRI NOS
- 911229 2.0m, and cannot find anything in the manualthat will
- permit this.Does anyone have any ideas/ways for me to get around
- this, withouthaving to send the mail back manually?Ashok--
- Ashok Aiyar axa12@po.cwru.edu
- Visit the IBM-PC Sig on
- Freenet------------------------------Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992
- 19:06:23 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!gatech!nscf!wa4phy!sam@ne
- twork.UCSD.EDUSubject: Digi-Board 4 port SIO To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduI am posting this for my friend, who does
- not have access to netnews. He hasa Digi-Board Intelligent 4
- port serial card with 256k ram, and software drivers for sale.
- Asking $325.00 complete. Will ship in conus. Pleasecontact him
- direct. Call Dan Turner, WA4BRO, at 404-992-1181 between 9:00
- and5:00 Eastern time.Or, you can send him E-mail at
- ..gatech!kd4nc!wa4bro!dan-- Sam Drinkard internet:
- wa4phy!sam@galois.nscf.org WA4PHY amprnet:
- wa4phy@wa4phy.ampr.org------------------------------Date:
- Tuesday, 6 Oct 1992 11:29:00 TURFrom:
- news.univie.ac.@!blekul11!frmop11!trearn!trmetu!c70861@uunet.uu.n
- etSubject: Ethernet driverTo: packet-radio@ucsd.edu The KA9Q
- TCP/IP package for radio amateurs includes an ETHERNETdr`ver.Any
- help concerning how to access to the Un`x vers`on of th`sdr`ver
- would be h`ghly apprec`ated. Please e-ma`l to :
- c70861@TRMETU.BITNET------------------------------Date: 5 Oct
- 1992 06:35:40 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject:
- FT-470 on packetTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn response to:JOHN
- AGNEWJohn, I took the lazy way out and purchased the MFJ cable
- connectors to connect my ft470 to a KAM and a MFJ-1274. This I
- use for testing purposes from time to time. Works fine for my
- purposes. I believe QST and one of the other radio mags here
- published the instructions and schematic for the connector.
- Maybe someone else here may have the dates at their immediate
- disposal.Bob
- Bennett................p1782@vmcms.csuohio.edukf8ph@wa8bxn.oh.na.
- 44.70.4.113 (kf8ph @
- clevsw.ampr.org.)------------------------------Date: 5 Oct 92
- 23:05:45 CSTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!tulane!agwbbs!A
- ngelo_Glorioso_Iii@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: G8BPQ 6.0 Ftp
- SiteTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduHas anyone been able to find a FTP
- site for the new G8BPQ 6.0 Code?? Theone mentioned earlier in
- the month does not seem to be a valid address orsite..-- Via DLG
- Pro v0.992Internet:angelo_glorioso_III@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US
- Usenet:rex!agwbbs!angelo_glorioso_III Packet:N5UXT @
- N5UXT.#NOLA.LA.USA.NA Tcp/ip:N5UXT.AMPT.ORG
- [44.108.2.13]------------------------------Date: 5 Oct 1992
- 16:04:54 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!us
- enet.ins.cwru.edu!po.CWRU.Edu!axa12@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- Help with PA0GRI NOS (KA9Q) 911229 2.0mTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduHello,I hope this is the correct group to
- ask this query.I am using PA0GRI NOS 911229 2.0m on a 386
- computer usinga FTP Software type packet driver and a Cabletron
- ethernet card.I have the software configured okay, to send and
- receive mailusing SMTP, and for other microcomputers to send and
- receivemail from my computer via the POP3 server that is
- providedwith PA0GRI NOS.My users have no trouble picking up and
- sending mail throughmy computer.The problem is that if mail is
- addressed to a NON-EXISTANTUSER on my computer, the mail is not
- bounced back, but sitsin my ~\spool\mail directory is as a
- "user".txt file, where"user" is the name of the non-existant
- user.I would like to configure NOS to bounce such mail back to
- thesender, but cannot figure out how to do this. Can
- someoneplease help me?Thank you,Ashok Aiyar--
- Ashok Aiyar axa12@po.cwru.edu
- Visit the IBM-PC Sig on
- Freenet------------------------------Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992
- 01:36:36 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!gatech!nscf!wa4phy!sam@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Icom
- 229-H transmitter slow to startTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI've
- been using the 229-H in packet service for about 2.5 years now,
- and havejust recently noticed that the transmitter doesn't want
- to go to full outputpower at keydown. If I connect the mic to
- it and let it stay keyed for severalseconds, it will eventually
- come up to full power. The xmitter IS working,even tho it does
- not always come up full power. Anybody else seen this kindof
- behavior with the 229-H ?...SD .-- Sam Drinkard internet:
- wa4phy!sam@galois.nscf.org WA4PHY amprnet:
- wa4phy@wa4phy.ampr.org------------------------------Date: 5 Oct
- 92 12:06:06 GMTFrom:
- pa.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!sousa.ltn.dec.com
- !bobseg.enet.dec.com!segrest@decwrl.dec.comSubject: Is Anyone
- using MSYS ??To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduGreetings,Is anyone using
- MSYS to run a BBS service? I would very much like to talk
- tosomeone with some experience with setting up the mail
- forwarding capabilitiesin MSYS. If you know something about
- this topic please send me mail so that we can correspond. If
- there is someone that you know of who does not have access to
- the Internet, I will be happy to call them.--Bob
- Segrestsegrest@bobseg.enet.dec.com------------------------------D
- ate: 5 Oct 1992 08:06:17 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Packet Survey 1992To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edu 3 years ago I did a survey of packet radio
- users. I'd like to do thesame again, and see how packet has
- changed. Last time I received 195 responses. I'll summarize and
- post the results ifI get at least 200 responses. Question 1 to
- UsersWhat computer, software and TNC are you using? Please
- format your reply as follows (for computer processing)USER
- COMPUTER SOFTWARE TNC CALL (optional) example,
- USER PC 386 Best_Packet ABC-123 G3ZCZ Question 2 to
- PBBS operatorsHow many users does your PBBS have, what BBS
- software are you running? Please format your reply as follows
- (for computer processing)BBS SOFTWARE USER COUNT CALL
- optional example BBS BBS 3.1 27 G3ZCZ The
- call field is optional, but may supply some correllation
- betweengeographic area and equipment. Please format the reply,
- so I can process the answers by computer. Any info returned will
- not be used for generating mailing lists or anypurpose other
- than looking at the distribution of equipment/softwareand trying
- to estimate number of packet operators. Thanks Joe
- jkasser@stdads.las.loral.com------------------------------Date:
- Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:42:15 GMTFrom:
- usc!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!gatech!nscf!wa4phy!sam@network.UCSD.EDUSub
- ject: Wyse model 50 pinoutsTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edupetrisko@evax2.engr.arizona.edu (William
- Petrisko) writes:>In article
- <1992Oct3.205807.26458@wa4phy.ampr.org>, sam@wa4phy.ampr.org
- (Sam Drinkard) writes:>>>>Can someone please send me the modem
- and auxillary port pinouts for a>>Wyse mod 50 terminal. I've
- acquired 4 of the beasts, but no docs for>>them.>>>>Thanks...>I
- was going to send email, but thought this might be of interest
- to >everyone. Wyse can be reached at 1-800-800-WYSE. They have
- a faxback>service available 24hrs/day, with several hundred
- topics available on>all of their terminals. The pinout for a
- wyse50 is document #11307.Thanks bill.. have had several replys
- already.. didn't realize it just stddb-25 :) Thanks to all who
- responded.-- Sam Drinkard internet:
- wa4phy!sam@galois.nscf.org WA4PHY amprnet:
- wa4phy@wa4phy.ampr.org------------------------------Date: 5 Oct
- 92 13:08:33 GMTFrom:
- noc.near.net!news.Brown.EDU!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!jvnc.net!ne
- tnews.upenn.edu!uofs!prijat.cs.uofs.edu!bill@uunet.uu.netTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences <1a3cd1INNhhn@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>,
- <BvAnp3.1Hv@tegra.com>, <343@unbc.edu>yale.edSubject : Re:
- Internet Gateway PolicyIn article <343@unbc.edu>,
- lyndon@unbc.edu (Lyndon Nerenberg) writes:|> |> As a sidenote to
- those talking about writing "naughty bits" filters, how|> many
- of your filters will catch something like "merde merde merde"
- from|> getting through? The whole world doesn't speak english.
- You're going to|> have to come up with some pretty impressive AI
- software to catch these|> naughty bits in french, german,
- croatian, cantonese, etc., in addition|> to english.I have
- wondered about this in the past. The FCC has a list of words
- you can'tsay on the radio (or tv for that matter, remember
- George Carlin??) But thesewords are in ENGLISH. Does it say
- anywhere in the CFR what foreign words arenot allowed?? Kind of
- sounds like the same old argument "I can't defineobscenity, but
- I know it when I see it!!" Is something obscene or indecentif
- the majority of listeners can't even understand it. Benny Hill
- used tomake a lot of lewd and indecent comments (by FCC
- standards) on his programs.I honestly figure he got away with so
- much cause the average american didn'tget the joke anyway. So
- what's the definitive word here?? Are foreign naughty-bits not
- allowed??Or can we get by if we just translate all our traffic
- into Esperanto?? :-)bill KB3YV-- Bill Gunshannon
- | If this statement wasn't here,
- bill@platypus.uofs.edu | This space would be left
- intentionally blank bill@tuatara.uofs.edu |
- #include <std.disclaimer.h>
- ------------------------------Date: 5 Oct 1992 16:17:34 GMTFrom:
- dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!odin!br
- own@network.UCSD.EDUTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences
- Hansen)@A.UUCP>, <Hansen)>,
- <95001100592095628@FREDONIA>net.Subject : Re: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #196In an earlier posting HANSEN@FREDONIA.BITNET
- (John A. Hansen) writes:>Hi Folks,> This is, I know, not the
- best place to ask this question, but I thought>someone might
- have an answer. At our site the mainframe computer (an
- aging>Burroughs) is connected to office PC's in many cases by
- wire. The device>that goes on the PC end is something called a
- T-CON TDI converter manufactured>by Computer Peripheral Systems
- of Atlanta, Ga. The Unysis Corporation resells>these to our
- college and gets $175 a copy. This is one of the reasons
- that>more Pc's aren't connected to our E-Mail System.>> Thus
- it seemed to me that A. Perhaps there is a cheaper source of
- these>things than the current supplier, and B. If I obtained a
- schematic (or perhaps>reverse-engineered the thing) I could
- build one for a whole lot less than>$175. Anybody have any
- ideas on this? Thanks, John WA0PTVSounds like what you have is
- an ethernet tranciever. 'bout the lowest Ihave seen them for is
- $125. You would probably also need the actual Ethernet interface
- for you computers...Not that this has a lot to do with Packet
- radio...So, a question...Is there any KA9Q package that would
- allow for bringing up a connection,probably a SL/IP line, if and
- only if there were traffic for that connection?As in, if I had a
- computer on an ethernet, or a packet net, and wanted tosend
- traffic via LL, but didn't want to keep the LL open all the
- time, isit possible to set up KA9Q or its varieties to dial on
- demand?73's. Later.Dan(who is working on a ticket, and really
- should just go take the friggin' testand get it over with!)--
- Dan Brown brown@ins.cwru.edu------------------------------Date:
- 5 Oct 1992 07:08:27 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences (John, A., Hansen)Subject : Re:
- Packet-Radio Digest V92 #196Hi Folks, This is, I know, not the
- best place to ask this question, but I thoughtsomeone might have
- an answer. At our site the mainframe computer (an
- agingBurroughs) is connected to office PC's in many cases by
- wire. The devicethat goes on the PC end is something called a
- T-CON TDI converter manufacturedby Computer Peripheral Systems
- of Atlanta, Ga. The Unysis Corporation resellsthese to our
- college and gets $175 a copy. This is one of the reasons
- thatmore Pc's aren't connected to our E-Mail System. I cracked
- open one of these T-Con's the other day and was surprised tofind
- standard 1488 and 1489 level conversion chips, a 76LS126 and
- assortedresistors, capacitors, and diodes. I figure if I
- purchased all the chipsand parts at Radio Shack (They might not
- carry the one logic chip, but evenso) the total cost of parts
- wouldn't be more than $15. Thus it seemed to me that A.
- Perhaps there is a cheaper source of thesethings than the
- current supplier, and B. If I obtained a schematic (or
- perhapsreverse-engineered the thing) I could build one for a
- whole lot less than$175. Anybody have any ideas on this?
- Thanks, John WA0PTV------------------------------Date: Mon, 5
- Oct 1992 18:05:18 GMTFrom:
- qualcom.qualcomm.com!qualcom.qualcomm.com!karn@network.UCSD.EDUTo
- : packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences <Hansen)>,
- <95001100592095628@FREDONIA>,
- <1appquINNc5g@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>-Reply-To :
- karn@chicago.qualcomm.comSubject : Re: Packet-Radio Digest V92
- #196In article <1appquINNc5g@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
- brown@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Dan Brown) writes:|> So, a
- question...|> |> Is there any KA9Q package that would allow for
- bringing up a connection,|> probably a SL/IP line, if and only
- if there were traffic for that connection?|> As in, if I had a
- computer on an ethernet, or a packet net, and wanted to|> send
- traffic via LL, but didn't want to keep the LL open all the
- time, is|> it possible to set up KA9Q or its varieties to dial
- on demand?Yes. This has been in my version of the code (at
- least) for some time.It has gone through some changes, and I'm
- about to generalize them soit's possible it will change again.
- Currently you specify a "script"file with commands to dial a
- link when there's traffic, and anotherscript with commads to
- drop the link after a configurable idle period.I use it from
- home to talk with a Telebit netblazer at work, and itall
- functions quite well.Please don't ask about documentation, as I
- said this stuff is experimentaland in a state of flux. If you
- want to play with it, read the source.The aforementioned
- "generalization" will allow the demand-dialer featureto work
- with interfaces other than SLIP, e.g., AX.25 connections,
- whichright now are opened on demand and never closed. When I get
- all thisdone, THEN I'll document
- it.Phil------------------------------End of Packet-Radio Digest
- V92 #272******************************Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92
- 04:30:04 PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #273To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Wed,
- 7 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 273Today's Topics:
- AmigaNOS/Arexx G8BPQ
- 6.0 HELP - looking for wnos4a9
- Help with PA0GRI NOS (KA9Q) 911229 2.0m
- Need FTP site for Radix95 Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #267 PMP kit order
- returnedSend Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:00:12 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!milo.mcs.anl.gov!chbmac01.el.anl.gov!
- user@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: AmigaNOS/ArexxTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduDoes anyone know of a version of AmigaNOS
- that supports AREXX? It would bereal nice to be able to have a
- second program controll NOS, and do variousthings.These thoughts
- are only my own.
- CHBeck@anl.gov------------------------------Date: 6 Oct 1992
- 21:41:24 -0500From:
- dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.ne
- t!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!nemesis.ksu.ksu.edu!n
- ews@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: G8BPQ 6.0To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduAngelo_Glorioso_Iii@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US
- (Angelo Glorioso Iii) writes:> Someone earlier in the week
- mentioned a FTP site for G8BPQ Packet>Switching Software.. If
- possible, can someone let me know where it is.I got the G8BPQ
- code successfully last week. For those havingtrouble getting to
- the Germany site, I put the software onmatt.ksu.ksu.edufor
- anonymous FTP. BPQ406.ZIP is in directory
- incoming/ham-radio-Steve Schallehn
- KB0AGD------------------------------Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992
- 02:27:03 GMTFrom:
- dog.ee.lbl.gov!news!manta!medin@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: HELP -
- looking for wnos4a9To: packet-radio@ucsd.edu Anyone know where i
- can find the source for wnos4a9 on the internet.73,
- tedn6trfThanks in advance.------------------------------Date: 6
- Oct 92 12:50:55 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!spool.mu.edu!ag
- ate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!mucs!nessie!john@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- Help with PA0GRI NOS (KA9Q) 911229 2.0mTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduI have incorporated a subcommand (2
- actually) to the SMTP command which doesexactly what you
- require:smtp reject "gz9asd"smtp reject "iw9asd"will reject all
- messages with either gz9asd or iw9asd anywhere in the From:line,
- this was written in response to a problem of offensive messages
- .the command smtp accept "gz9asd"would remove gz9asd from the
- reject list.(This feature only exists on the AmigaNOS
- system)John.------------------------------Date: 6 Oct 92
- 18:47:44 GMTFrom:
- pa.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!sousa.ltn.dec.com
- !bobseg.enet.dec.com!segrest@decwrl.dec.comSubject: Need FTP
- site for Radix95To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduDoes anyone know of a
- FTP site for the Radix95 software?Thanks in advance......
- KD4PWU--Bob
- Segrestsegrest@dc101.enet.dec.com------------------------------Da
- te: 7 Oct 92 16:07:13 +1000From:
- munnari.oz.au!manuel!sserve!hhcs.gov.au!makinc@network.UCSD.EDUSu
- bject: Packet-Radio Digest V92 #267To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn
- article <T2uZRB1w164w@phsbbs.princeton.nj.us>,
- n2gj@phsbbs.PRinceton.nj.US (Gerry Jurrens) writes:>
- acknowledgement in the form of "RCVD #nnnn...." and AEA says it
- should > only be sending me "F>" and nothing else. AEA says
- "Tell the sysop to > suppress that message." KB1BD says "No can
- do. No one else has this > problem..." Is this the ROSE PRMBS?
- I've never used it however it soundslike the sysop of the PRMBS
- needs to define you to his box as a'BBS'. That should stop
- extranious messages.Carl.-- Carl Makin, MVS/ESA Systems
- Programmer, VAX/VMS Dabbler. Dept. Health, Housing and Community
- Services, Canberra, Australia.sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au!hhcs!makinc
- - UUCPmakinc@hhcs.gov.au -
- Internetvk1kcm@vk1kcm.act.aus.oc - Packet Radio"I'm from
- the Government and I'm here to help
- you."------------------------------Date: 6 Oct 1992 12:54:21
- -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: PMP kit order
- returnedTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI have been looking for PMP
- kits. Baycom kits could do as well. Could anybodye-mail directly
- to me any help? Thanks. Harold.
- <hsanchez@ucrvm2.bitnet>----------------------------Original
- message----------------------------On June 15 1992 I sent a $37
- cheque for a PMP kit to: Kevin Feeney PO Box 323 Newfield
- NY 14867The same day I e-mailed Andrew Payne and Kevin Feeney
- telling them in advanceabout the order to:
- payne@theory.tc.cornell.eduSince there was no reply I repeated
- the e-mail on June 24, July 9 and July 28with the same result.On
- August 19 the mail order was returned to me by the post office.
- The reason:"unclaimed".What happend to the authors of PMP,
- Feeney and Payne?Could someone e-mail directly an explanation or
- help me locating them?Thanks in advance.Harold Sanchez
- <hsanchez@ucrvm2.bitnet> Costa
- Rica------------------------------End of Packet-Radio Digest V92
- #273******************************Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 04:30:02
- PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #274To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Thu,
- 8 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 274Today's Topics:
- AmigaNOS v2.9g? ARRL RPT
- DIR Entry ARRL RPTR Directory Stinks :-(
- Internet Gateway newsgroup cfd?
- Morse reception software? WOULD APPRECIATE INFORMATION ON
- HOW TO CONNECT FT470 TO TNCSend Replies or notes for publication
- to: <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:36:04 GMTFrom:
- usc!rpi!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!psinntp!psinntp!isc-newsserver
- !bad1679@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: AmigaNOS v2.9g?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduHi Folks,I just read about amiganos v2.9g
- being out. Does anyone know where Imight find this on ftp? (I
- am hoping it might have pop3 client).Bernie-- Electrical
- Engineering, Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester,NYAx25
- Packet: NU1S @ WB2PSI.#WNY.NY.USA.NOAM (normal packet route)
- Internet (school):
- bad1679@ultb.isc.rit.edu------------------------------Date: Thu,
- 10 Sep 92 00:40:10 GMTFrom: wa3tsw@wa3tsw.ampr.org (John
- Robison)Subject: ARRL RPT DIR EntryTo:
- wb3ftp%wb3ftp@wa3dsp.ampr.orgI consider the ARRL Repeater
- Directory to be a lost cause. For three yearsin a row I sent
- them current information but they refused to accept it.
- Theyonly take input from the "frequency co-ordinators". The
- frequency co-ordinators don't have anything to do with packet.
- They don't want the added burden of passing the information on
- to the ARRL for packet operation.I was never able to get all of
- my entries correct. It always got scrambledalong the way. Even
- the one for my voice repeater on 440 is wrong. Idecided I
- didn't need the aggravation and forgot about it.I don't send
- updates anymore and I don't buy the book. The last one I
- haveseen is the 1990/1991 issue. A consciencious editor would
- have purged the221.01 entries. They don't seem to care whether
- it is accurate. Only thatit is thick enough to fetch a good
- price. I understand that this yearsdirectory left out a whole
- area of Texas. Thanks for caring but I nolonger do. Life is
- too short; since my heart attack I don't let things likethat
- bother me anymore.73, John---End of Forward smtp mail--- There
- you have it, quoting John: "This years directory left out
- a whole area of Texas." Well at least it was left out if it was
- WRONG right?!?! Look at the packet listing for 220Mhz in
- Pennsylvania. They still have listings below 222Mhz. What is the
- Editor doing at ARRL, isn't that his job to make sure its ok? I
- believe the freq below 222Mhz are nolonger ham freq correct
- :-). Just wanted to let the net know about another "BUG" in the
- great ARRL, INC. :-) I'll take John advice and say "Life is too
- short and not let this bother me also". 73 and thanks for
- reading my post, I hope you've enjoyed it as much as I have
- typing it :-) Steve-- |Stephen Urich|
- Internet:steve@zero.com | "Cattle mutilations ||NIC:
- SU2 | UUCP:beyonet!steve@cs.widener.edu | are up!"
- --Sneakers ||ARS: WB3FTP |
- Packet:WB3FTP@WA3NWL.#EPA.PA.USA.NA | ax25<->PBBS<->IPGATE
- ||Bensalem, PA |Radio:wb3ftp@wb3ftp.ampr.org[44.80.8.44]|
- TCP/IP-FTP-SMTP-UNIX |------------------------------Date: 6 Oct
- 92 15:55:16 GMTFrom:
- cbmvax!snark!beyonet!steve@RUTGERS.EDUSubject: ARRL RPTR
- Directory Stinks :-(To: packet-radio@ucsd.edu I recently bought
- the latest edition (1992-1993) of The ARRL Repeater Directory
- since I have never owned one while being a ham for 15.5 years
- and only being a member of the ARRL for 1 year (The first year
- From Feb 24, 1977 to Jan 31 1978). This book is a disgrace! :-(
- Someone is not doing their job in editing, registration of new
- updates, and coordination. There are so many errors that I am
- sorry I even bought it now. I would be ashamed to even have
- printed this if I knew what was in it. I mainly bought it for
- the Packet information but I now find that the Freq coordinators
- are the only ones allowed to submit an update for the packet
- section and most of them are ignoring any new updates. The freq
- coordinators don't want to get involved in packet updates period
- from what I have seen in the book and what I have heard. I
- recently send a bunch of TCPIP packet mail to a few listed
- fellow hams and here is one of the replys that I got:---Start
- smtp packet mail forwarded---------------------------------Date:
- Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:36:24 GMTFrom:
- munnari.oz.au!metro!ipso!dave@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Internet
- Gateway newsgroup cfd?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <718149312snx@w3vh.UUCP> rolfe@w3vh.UUCP (Rolfe Tessem)
- writes:>> How do you stop a ham user from accepting an offer on
- misc.forsale?>>You don't, because there is no problem in that
- instance (i.e. it's>no different than swap nets, which according
- to an FCC advisory, are>explicitly legal.)Last I looked, the
- world consists of considerably more than that landcovered by the
- laws of the FCC... For example, anything relating to"sale"
- items is expressly forbidden on packet radio in
- Australia.Please, don't make the assumption that USA ==
- world...-- Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU) VK2KFU @
- VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OCdave@ips.OZ.AU
- ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave------------------------------Date: 7
- Oct 92 15:17:55 GMTFrom:
- dtix!darwin.sura.net!wupost!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!news.medi
- a.mit.edu!news.media.mit.edu!monta@uunet.uu.netSubject: Morse
- reception software?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduWhere can I find
- references for algorithms to decode Morse, bothhuman-sent and
- automatic? Adapting to a variable/dynamically changingrate,
- nonuniform symbol spacing, etc. are some of the wrinkles thatno
- doubt have good solutions by now. (This is probably a FAQ,
- sorry.)A nice interface would be to take a chunk of bandwidth,
- search forlikely Morse sources within it, then present the
- traffic in a numberof separate windows for examination. I'm not
- really familiar withthe multimode packet modems sold by
- companies like AEA; perhaps theydo this (and RTTY, other text
- protocols...).Peter Monta monta@image.mit.eduMIT Advanced
- Television Research Program------------------------------Date:
- Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:28:31 GMTFrom:
- usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!unixg.u
- bc.ca!pogyk@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: WOULD APPRECIATE
- INFORMATION ON HOW TO CONNECT FT470 TO TNCTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduWell as the title say, I would greatly
- appreciate it if someone could send me some plans for connecting
- the Yaesu FT470to a tnc. Specifically the MFJ1278 or 1270.email
- to
- saloffree@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca------------------------------End
- of Packet-Radio Digest V92
- #274******************************Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 04:30:04
- PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #275To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Sat,
- 10 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 275Today's Topics:
- Adding 9600 baud modem to a PK-88 (2 msgs) ARRL DIGITAL
- COMMITTE REVISED REPORT 9/26/92 (2 msgs) ARRL
- RPTR Directory Stinks :-( gateway
- Interop
- Kantronics 3 (SUMMARY) TheNET and TCP/IP
- ??Send Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 13:58:06 PDTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!usenet.
- coe.montana.edu!news.u.washington.edu!serval!wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu!W
- EBBG@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Adding 9600 baud modem to a
- PK-88To: packet-radio@ucsd.edu I would like to add a 9600 baud
- modem to my PK-88. Does anyone know howto go about doing this?
- I would also like to add a modem disconnect header,will the
- PK-232 kit from TAPR work? Inquiring minds want to know! Thanks
- in advance and 73Geoff N7ZRR
- +--------------------------------------+-------------------------
- -------------+| Geoffrey Webb |
- Internet: webbg@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu || Systems
- Analyst/Programmer II | Bitnet: webbg@wsuvm1
- || Washington State University | Amprnet:
- n7zrr@aa7gv.#wa.usa.na || Pullman WA 99163
- | Phone: (509) 335-4213
- |+--------------------------------------+------------------------
- --------------+------------------------------Date: Fri, 9 Oct
- 1992 23:40:16 GMTFrom:
- news.acns.nwu.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!rdewan@network.UCSD.EDUSubj
- ect: Adding 9600 baud modem to a PK-88To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1687BC46E.WEBBG@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu> WEBBG@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu
- writes:> >I would like to add a 9600 baud modem to my PK-88.
- Does anyone know how>to go about doing this? I would also like
- to add a modem disconnect header,>will the PK-232 kit from TAPR
- work? Inquiring minds want to know!> Look in the latest issue of
- the "Packet Shift Register" (the official organ of TAPR) for
- details. It has blow-by-blow details for the installation of
- the modem into PK88, PK232MBX, DRSI board and others.The PK88
- installation is quite elegant. It uses the unused pins in the
- rs232 connector for interfacing with the tapr board which has to
- be in aseparate box.Rajiv aa9ch
- Address: r-dewan@nwu.eduPhone: None. Only CW.And AMTOR
- occasionally.------------------------------Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992
- 17:49:57 GMTFrom:
- usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!src.honeywell.com!skyler.mavd.honeywell.
- com!estey@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: ARRL DIGITAL COMMITTE REVISED
- REPORT 9/26/92To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduLines: 305X-Sender:
- news@src.honeywell.com (News interface)X-Nntp-Posting-Host:
- skyler.mavd.honeywell.comX-Organization: Honeywell Systems &
- Research CenterX-Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:37:42 GMT
- Report and Recommendation to the ARRL
- Board of Directors, from the ARRL Committee on Amateur
- Radio Digital Communications
- September 26, 1992 At the request of the ARRL Board of
- Directors, the ARRL Digital Committee met today with five
- elected representatives from the group of amateurs operating
- automatic HF message forwarding stations under FCC Special
- Temporary Authority originally dated July 7, 1987. What follows
- supersedes and replaces the Committee's June 13 report.
- Additional data, not available at the time of the Committee's
- June 13 meeting, included: A. Revised IARU Region 2 band
- plan resulting from the September 4, 1992 meeting in
- Curacao. B. Additional feedback from amateurs at large, and
- the STA community, received since the June 13 meeting.
- The committee is revising its previous recommendation to
- include fully-automatic, unattended operation on the IARU
- "packet priority" sub-bands and semiautomatic operation in all
- digital sub-bands. IARU Band Plan The Digital Committee, at
- its June 13 meeting, was concerned about frequency usage and
- allocation in the US. and other countries, in effect at that
- time. The September 4, 1992 IARU Region 2 meeting in
- Curacao produced a substantially revised band plan for digital
- modes. The new plan includes segments on all amateur bands
- between 80 and 10 meters for "digital modes," defined as
- including RTTY, AMTOR and packet (including new systems like
- PACTOR and CLOVER), but not FAX and SSTV. Within those
- segments, "packet priority" sub-bands were defined (except on 40
- meters) in which digital modes other than packet are permitted,
- but may not claim protection from packet. It was agreed that CW
- remains a permitted mode throughout all amateur bands. The
- Digital Committee and STA representatives believe strongly that
- no distinction should be drawn -- in terms of spectrum usage --
- between digital modes. Technology development is advancing
- quickly. Any mode could be outdated and replaced with better,
- more efficient technologies at any time. Mode-specific plans
- will limit spectrum for development, and may reserve spectrum
- for modes soon to be obsolete. For that reason, and
- in light of what follows, the Committee prefers the term,
- "automatic priority," instead of the IARU's term, "packet
- priority."The Committee believes the following recommendations
- will better align the US. band plan to the IARU Region 2
- agreement. Additional Feedback Received There is reason to
- believe that many VHF and UHF operators overlooked the QST
- survey, assuming a "below 50 MHz" issue had little effect on
- them. The impact on message traffic between widely separated
- VHF and UHF packet bulletin boards was not immediately
- understood. As mentioned in the Committee's June 13
- report, every Committee member read every written comment
- submitted by the respondents. Those comments emphasized areas of
- great concern by many amateurs, and significantly influenced the
- Committee's previous recommendation. The concerns remain quite
- valid. The Committee believes new means are now available to
- address them, while, at the same time, enabling additional
- activities and developments that will benefit amateurs and the
- public interest. A primary concern, among many amateurs is
- interference to stations under human control by stations under
- computer control. Except for a very few special situations, by
- tradition (and rule), one amateur station must not willingly or
- knowingly interfere with a contact already in progress,
- regardless of mode or the perceived importance of the
- communication in progress. Semiautomatic operation has
- been defined by the Committee as requiring a local control
- operator at the calling station, to guard against interference
- to existing communications. The station being called operates
- automatically, but on a "speak only when spoken to" basis.
- Semiautomatic operation received a 2:1 majority (those favoring
- vs. those opposed) in the QST survey. The Committee interprets
- that response as a strong vote in favor of automated message
- handling, provided it can be a "good neighbor" to other spectrum
- users. Initial survey respondents, while not favoring
- automatic operation, said (if automatic operation is permitted)
- they preferred sub-bands by a 4:1 ratio over any other proposed
- scheme. They did not favor the idea of exclusive sub-bands for
- specific modes. The STA participants point to their
- commendable record in creating a nationwide network for moving
- hundreds of thousands of messages efficiently and without
- technical difficulties. Their efforts have lived up to Part 97.1
- (a), Basis and Purpose of the Amateur Service, "Recognition and
- enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the public as
- a voluntary noncommercial communications service, particularly
- with respect to providing emergency communications."
- Countless pieces of traffic have been transported in national
- and worldwide emergency situations. Messages of a "hobby"
- nature have been an important vehicle allowing the network to be
- developed and maintained in a state of readiness. The
- technical effort required to construct this network, both in
- hardware and software technology has been considerable, and
- certainly meets 97.1(b), "Continuation and extension of the
- amateur's proven ability to contribute to the advancement of the
- radio art." Thousands of bulletin board operators
- (sysops) and tens or hundreds of thousands of digital operators
- have learned to originate, relay and deliver message traffic by
- means not previously available. Part 97.1(d), "Expansion of the
- existing reservoir within the amateur radio service of trained
- operators, technicians and electronics experts," has also been
- served. There is no question of the value provided by this
- message network to other amateurs and to the public at large.
- The Committee acknowledges the success, both technically and
- functionally, of the STA experiment. There have been a few
- reports of interference to foreign phone stations where
- international band plans conflict. There are few if any reports
- of problems with other US stations. The IARU accord minimizes
- or eliminates the concern for interference to foreign stations.
- A major concern had remained, however, that unrestricted HF
- automatic operation permitted to all General, Advanced or
- Amateur Extra class licensees, could easily result in
- interference to other stations on a completely unacceptable
- level. Subdivision of bands by rule was previously rejected, in
- part because, "it will not work on a world wide basis because of
- the differences in the rules between regions and between
- individual administrations." The IARU has now provided a
- subdivision plan which has already met with international
- approval. RECOMMENDATIONS I. The Committee wishes to
- enable as many amateur licensees as possible to contribute to,
- and enjoy, our service. The previous recommendation stands, to
- permit semiautomatic operation in any digital portion of any
- band. This privilege will permit a variety of experimentation
- and operations such as personal mailboxes and MSOs to co-exist
- with "live" users, on a non-interference basis. II. By using
- the IARU Region 2 band plan, US operation will be in compliance
- with international agreement. Since the sub-bands designated by
- the IARU as "packet priority" will offer no protection from
- interference to other users of that space, including US
- amateurs, the Committee proposes fully-automatic operation by US
- amateurs within those segments of the band, using any approved
- digital data mode. It is recommended that those segments be
- dubbed "automatic priority," as a more accurate, descriptive
- term. III No packet priority segment was specified by the
- IARU on 40 meters, yet automatic networks have been operating
- there since the beginning of the STA. As we approach the
- sunspot minimum, and the MUF lowers, 40 meters will be badly
- needed for many propagation paths. The Committee therefor urges
- approval of a small automatic priority segment from 7.100 to
- 7.110 MHz. Similarly, no digital segment was specified
- by the IARU for 160 meters. While there is little or no digital
- activity on this band, developing modes show promise of
- improving operation in this somewhat hostile (digitally)
- environment. The Committee feels it would be a valuable testing
- ground, and requests an automatic priority segment from 1810 to
- 1820 KHz. Specific frequencies recommended for automatic
- priority are listed in Appendix B IV. The Committee cannot
- overemphasize our concern for protecting other spectrum users
- from the potential interference of automatic stations. To
- this end, the recommendation for automatic operation is made on
- the basis that protection by rule will be provided in the form
- of specific sub-bands to which fully automatic operation is
- restricted. There is precedent for special use,
- by-rule sub-bands, as in 97.203(d) for beacon stations. Any
- other usage plans, within digital segments, should be by
- voluntary plan, not by rule. The requested sub-bands
- should not place an additional enforcement burden on the FCC.
- Amateurs have always been largely self-regulating. The
- committee views the requested rules not as something else the
- FCC must spend time monitoring, but rather tools to enforce
- reported infractions. V. By current standards, AX.25 is
- considered the least efficient protocol in use for digital
- modes. The STA representatives request, and the Committee
- wholeheartedly agrees, that AX.25 protocol be struck from
- 97.109(e) as a requirement, and replaced with the ability to use
- any accepted digital protocol. Because the investment
- in technology development is large, developers hesitate to
- widely publish details (competitive disadvantage) in the early
- stages. To address this issue, it is proposed that developers
- be allowed the latitude to use new protocols, during the
- development phases, so long as they file details of the
- protocol, privately, with the ARRL. VI. Because digital
- technologies are developing rapidly, the Committee proposes to
- compile, and provide to the Board, a proposal for any desirable
- adjustments to Region 2 band planning, prior to future IARU
- Region 2 conferences. VII. The Committee reinforces its
- previous suggestion that the League undertake publication of a
- tutorial-style operator's guide for HF digital operations
- clearly defining acceptable operating practices, voluntary-use
- band plans, DX windows and beacon frequencies.
- Appendix A The following is suggested wording
- for an addition to Part 97 authorizing automatic and
- semiautomatic digital mode operation. Note that RTTY, AMTOR,
- packet, CLOVER, PACTOR and future digital data modes are treated
- equally as "digital modes." 97.3 Definitions ( ) Unattended
- Digital Station - A station in the amateur service, using any
- accepted digital mode protocol for data or message transmission,
- and operated without a local control operator present. ( )
- Semiautomatic operation - A two-way communication in which the
- control operator of a locally controlled amateur station
- manually initiates, monitors and controls communication between
- that station and an unattended digital station. 97.109 (e) No
- station may be automatically controlled while transmitting
- third-party communications, except a station retransmitting
- digital radio communications using an accepted protocol on the
- 6m and shorter wavelength bands, or on 10m and longer wavelength
- bands in sub-bands where automatic control is specifically
- authorized. The retransmitted messages must originate at a
- station that is being locally or remotely controlled. 97.216
- Unattended Digital Station (a) Any amateur station licensed to a
- holder of a General, Advanced or Amateur Extra Class license may
- be an unattended digital station. (b) An unattended digital
- station may operate on any frequency authorized for digital
- transmission modes. (c) No unattended digital station may
- initiate contact withanother station or broadcast any undirected
- signal unless operating in a band or band segment where
- fully-automatic operation is authorized. (d) The transmitter of
- an unattended digital station must be equipped with a
- functioning time-out timer that will insure no signal is
- transmitted for longer than five minutes in the event of the
- malfunction of control equipment or loss of contact with another
- station. (e) Unless operating in a band segment where
- fully-automatic operation is authorized, the control operator
- initiating contact with an unattended digital station must be
- present at the local control point. The control operator must
- first ascertain that no interference will be caused to existing
- communications, must remain present for the duration of the
- contact, and must discontinue the contact if it becomes evident
- that communications with the unattended digital station is
- interfering with other amateur communications.
- Appendix B It is recommended that all
- stations under automatic control be restricted to the following
- Sub-bands... 10 M: 28.120 - 28.189 MHz
- 12 M: 24.925 - 24.930 MHz 15 M: 21.090 -
- 21.125 MHz 17 M: 18.105 - 18.110 MHz
- 20 M: 14.095 - 14.0995 MHz 14.1005
- - 14.112 MHz 30 M: 10.140 - 10.150 MHz
- 40 M: 7.100 - 7.110 MHz 80 M: 3.620
- - 3.635 MHz 160M: 1.810 - 1.820 MH
-
- ###
- _________________________________________________________________
- _____________Carl Estey | Home Mail Address:
- 276 Walnut LaneAmateur Callsign: WA0CQG |
- Apple Valley, MN 55124 | Business
- Address: Honeywell Inc.Phone: Work (612) 542-5136 | Flight
- Systems & Test Operations M/S MN15-2370 FAX (612)
- 542-6003 | 1625 Zarthan Ave. S., St. Louis Park, MN 55416
- Home (612) 432-0699 | Packet: WA0CQG @
- WA0CQG.#SOMSP.MN.USA.NA The nonsense here is of my own making
- - no one else would want
- credit!------------------------------Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992
- 21:29:32 GMTFrom:
- usc!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun.tamu.edu!cs.tamu.edu!willis@network.UCSD
- .EDUSubject: ARRL DIGITAL COMMITTE REVISED REPORT 9/26/92To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduI have two problems with the Digital
- Committee's new report, one minor,one major.The minor one is
- that in their Appendix B they forget that unattendeddigital
- stations exist above 10M. (The intent is clear from other
- paragraphs,but it's not stated in this Appendix, which purports
- to cover "... all stationsunder automatic control be restricted
- to the following Sub-bands...").The MAJOR complaint is that
- someone has decided to remove some privilegesfrom Technician
- class licenses (I guess one understands packet better if thecode
- speed is >= 13wpm).Quoted from the Report:"97.216 Unattended
- Digital Station(a) Any amateur station licensed to a holder of a
- General, Advanced orAmateur Extra Class license may be an
- unattended digital station."What a load of hooey! I'd like
- WA0CQG, Carl Estey, to present anyresaonable rationale for this
- line.Willis MartiN5SZF{note follow-ups to
- rec.radio.amateur.policy}------------------------------Date:
- Thu, 08 Oct 92 15:53:17 PDTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!cs
- us.edu!netcom.com!netcomsv!cruzio!comix!jeffl@network.UCSD.EDUSub
- ject: ARRL RPTR Directory Stinks :-(To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn
- article <BvpIw7.4Jr@zero.com> steve@zero.com (Steve Urich)
- writes:> This book is a disgrace! :-( Someone is not doing their
- job> in editing, registration of new updates, and
- coordination.(packet related complaints deleted)While we're on
- the subject of ARRL Repeater Directory bashing, there'sanother
- political bug in the directory. The ARRL has
- unilaterallydecided that there are only two type of repeaters:
- open and closed.The other published frequency lists show three
- types: open, closed,and private.Open Anyone can use
- it.Closed Club or organization membership requested (not
- demanded).Private Not soliciting for additional members.What
- this has done is given some club and organization
- sponsoredrepeaters a bad name for operating "closed" systems
- that are inreality available for anyone to use.I do not fault
- the ARRL for not accepting random input from anyham with entries
- and corrections. I maintain a small frequency listfor the
- Monterey Bay area. I average one change per week. Havepity on
- the poor guy at the ARRL and armtwist the frequencyco-ordination
- groups into supplying timely updates instead.-- # Jeff
- Liebermann Box 272 1540 Jackson Ave Ben Lomond CA
- 95005# 408.336.2558 voice wb6ssy@ki6eh.#nocal.ca.usa
- wb6ssy.ampr.org [44.4.1.86]# 408.699.0483 digital_pager
- 73557,2074 cis [don't]# jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
- uunet!comix!jeffl
- jeffl%comix@scruz.ucsc.edu------------------------------Date:
- Friday, 9 Oct 1992 13:46:09 TURFrom:
- news.univie.ac.@!blekul11!frmop11!trearn!trmetu!c70861@uunet.uu.n
- etSubject: gatewayTo: packet-radio@ucsd.edu I was told that
- hand filtering is the only possible way used to filterout an
- Ethernet logged-on user messages if the LAN is connected to a
- packetnode.Do you think it true and what is the alternative if
- not?
- <Abdul-Hamid>------------------------------Date: 10 Oct 1992
- 02:47:45 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject:
- InteropTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduHello Packeteers,is there a
- meeting point/time for ham's at the Interop in SF ?If, at what
- time and frequency ?(no packet please, hi !)Could someone
- recommend a amateur radio shop in San Francisco down town ?I
- would like to have a look....73s, Fritz DF2RF-- (-% Fritz B.
- Raab # email: fritz@multinet.DE %-)
- (-% Fa. Multinet Services GmbH # voice: +49 89 45 69 11 -32
- fax: -21 %-) (-% Bretonischer Ring 7 # ampr :
- DF2RF@DB0AAB.DEU.EU (Munich) %-) (-% D-W8011 Grasbrunn,
- Germany # Member of EurOPEN, GUUG , DIGI e.V.
- %-)------------------------------Date: 9 Oct 92 18:27:30
- GMTFrom:
- haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!netnews.upenn.edu!hp800.la
- salle.edu!kupiec@ames.arpaSubject: Kantronics 3 (SUMMARY)To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn <91336@netnews.upenn.edu>,
- kupiec@hp800.lasalle.edu writes:>Does anyone have any comments
- (good or bad) about the Kantronics>3 TNC? This is the one that
- is VHF+ and retails for ~$100.Here is a summary of the responses
- I received. Thank you to all those thatresponded, and those
- that requested this information.-----------------------------
- begin enclosure
- ------------------------------------------------------------Date:
- 10 Oct 92 02:16:27 GMTFrom:
- pa.dec.com!sousa.ltn.dec.com!bobseg.enet.dec.com!segrest@decwrl.d
- ec.comSubject: TheNET and TCP/IP ??To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduGreetings,A group of local packet users are
- going to set up a TheNET node. The planis to use the TN210
- software release. Another ham told me yesterday that there was
- a newer release of TheNET that also provided some incremental
- TCP/IPsupport. He thought it was referred to as version X1G by
- G8KBB.Does anyone know anything about this? If it is real, what
- does it by me andwhere can I get it (preferably via Internet
- FTP)?Thanks in advance, any pointers are greatly
- appreciated....--Bob
- Segrestsegrest@dc101.enet.dec.com------------------------------Da
- te: (null)From: (null)There was a generally favorable review in
- this month's 73.No comparison to the PK-88,
- however.------------------------------Date: (null)From: (null)I
- have one of these units, as do several friends of mine. I have
- been veryimpressed with it, and have had no problems at all.
- Some features that I like:Small size: 0.8" x 5.2" x 5.2"low
- current... runs forever off a 9 volt battery.. >20 hours. can
- even turn off the leds via a software command to save more...
- draws about 10ma set up for max saving.room inside for a 9 volt
- battery...runs off any power supply between 6 volts DC to 25...
- supports open squelch operation... (DCD)..does 8bit WEFAX.does
- KISS, for TCP/IP support,has the Kantronics host mode... works
- with any software for the KAM...allows complete control
- remotely... (if desired)------------------------------Date:
- (null)From: (null)My friend, Eric (EES@KSUVM.KSU.EDU) has one.
- I have played with itbriefly. It has 32K static ram.Watchdog
- timer.6809 Type processor (not TNC-2 compat)Small footprintLow
- power operation (Can even turn all LCD's off)Kantronics 5.0
- Version eeprom:------------------------------Mailbox - Reverse
- Forwarding RLI type command structure Remote
- sysop control Blinks STA light when mail has arrived2
- command sets - one beginner commands / one advanced
- commandsSoftware DCD (I like it, but other neters say it is
- worthless)KA-NodeHost Mode KISS ModeAll other features available
- on KPC-2.----------------------------- end enclosure
- -------------------------------- \/\ Bob Kupiec - Amateur
- Radio: N3MML UUCP: (My machine is down, ) /\/\//\/\
- Internet: kupiec@hp800.lasalle.edu (use INTERNET address.)
- /\/\/\\/\/\ LaSalle University, 20th St. & Olney Ave.,
- Philadelphia, PA /\/\/\//\/\/\ Self-Quote: "I'm MS-DOS
- free: never had it, never will."
- /\/\/\/\------------------------------End of Packet-Radio Digest
- V92 #275******************************Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92
- 04:30:02 PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #276To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Sun,
- 11 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 276Today's Topics:
- 10 meter packet 6 meter
- packet ARRL Digital Committee Report
- ARRL RPTR Directory Stinks :-( (?)
- Comments of Digital Committee Report
- Faster Packet Is Anyone using MSYS ??
- Kantronics KPC-1? rsgb
- gb2rs news 11th october TheNET and
- TCP/IP ?? Trouble with Baycom modem
- Trouble with Baycom modem SNAFU
- Unsub What do I need?Send
- Replies or notes for publication to: <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send
- subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: 11 Oct 92 01:26:05 GMTFrom:
- mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx!rsavage@uunet.uu.netSubject: 10 meter
- packetTo: packet-radio@ucsd.edu Have people tried using 1200
- baud BPSK modems on 10 meters? (themodems they use for pacsats)
- If its legal we better take advantage of thesuperior performance
- that binary phase shift keying offers before they tryand ban
- packet. ------------------------------Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92
- 01:37:57 GMTFrom:
- mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx!rsavage@uunet.uu.netSubject: 6 meter
- packetTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduAccording to my radio shack
- technician license book 9600 baud operationis legal on 6 meters
- as long as your emission is kept at 20 khz ofbandwidth. This
- would seem to be the perfect band to build full duplexpacket
- repeaters! We could have interactive logins and internet
- accessfrom hundreds of miles away!! To quote John Lennon.
- "There is nothing that's been done that can't bedone", because
- if you go ahead and do something they can't say you can'tdo it
- because you have already done it! Though at this time I would
- notadvocate singing in non digital form.
- ------------------------------Date: 9 Oct 92 10:36:35 EDTFrom:
- psinntp!arrl.org@uunet.uu.netSubject: ARRL Digital Committee
- ReportTo: packet-radio@ucsd.edu Report
- and Recommendation to the ARRL Board of Directors, from the
- ARRL Committee on Amateur Radio Digital Communications
- September 26, 1992 At the request of the ARRL Board of
- Directors, the ARRL Digital Committee met today with five
- elected representatives from the group of amateurs operating
- automatic HF message forwarding stations under FCC Special
- Temporary Authority originally dated July 7, 1987. What follows
- supersedes and replaces the Committee's June 13 report.
- Additional data, not available at the time of the Committee's
- June 13 meeting, included: A. Revised IARU Region 2 band plan
- resulting from the September 4, 1992 meeting in Curacao. B.
- Additional feedback from amateurs at large, and the STA
- community, received since the June 13 meeting. The committee
- is revising its previous recommendation to include
- fully-automatic, unattended operation on the IARU "packet
- priority" sub-bands and semiautomatic operation in all digital
- sub-bands. IARU Band Plan The Digital Committee, at its June
- 13 meeting, was concerned about frequency usage and allocation
- in the US. and other countries, in effect at that time. The
- September 4, 1992 IARU Region 2 meeting in Curacao produced a
- substantially revised band plan for digital modes. The new plan
- includes segments on all amateur bands between 80 and 10 meters
- for "digital modes," defined as including RTTY, AMTOR and packet
- (including new systems like PACTOR and CLOVER), but not FAX and
- SSTV. Within those segments, "packet priority" sub-bands were
- defined (except on 40 meters) in which digital modes other than
- packet are permitted, but may not claim protection from packet.
- It was agreed that CW remains a permitted mode throughout all
- amateur bands. The Digital Committee and STA representatives
- believe strongly that no distinction should be drawn -- in terms
- of spectrum usage -- between digital modes. Technology
- development is advancing quickly. Any mode could be outdated
- and replaced with better, more efficient technologies at any
- time. Mode-specific plans will limit spectrum for development,
- and may reserve spectrum for modes soon to be obsolete. For
- that reason, and in light of what follows, the Committee prefers
- the term, "automatic priority," instead of the IARU's term,
- "packet priority." The Committee believes the following
- recommendations will better align the US. band plan to the IARU
- Region 2 agreement. Additional Feedback Received There is
- reason to believe that many VHF and UHF operators overlooked
- the QST survey, assuming a "below 50 MHz" issue had little
- effect on them. The impact on message traffic between widely
- separated VHF and UHF packet bulletin boards was not immediately
- understood. As mentioned in the Committee's June 13 report,
- every Committee member read every written comment submitted by
- the respondents. Those comments emphasized areas of great
- concern by many amateurs, and significantly influenced the
- Committee's previous recommendation. The concerns remain quite
- valid. The Committee believes new means are now available to
- address them, while, at the same time, enabling additional
- activities and developments that will benefit amateurs and the
- public interest. A primary concern, among many amateurs is
- interference to stations under human control by stations under
- computer control. Except for a very few special situations, by
- tradition (and rule), one amateur station must not willingly or
- knowingly interfere with a contact already in progress,
- regardless of mode or the perceived importance of the
- communication in progress. Semiautomatic operation has been
- defined by the Committee as requiring a local control operator
- at the calling station, to guard against interference to
- existing communications. The station being called operates
- automatically, but on a "speak only when spoken to" basis.
- Semiautomatic operation received a 2:1 majority (those favoring
- vs. those opposed) in the QST survey. The Committee interprets
- that response as a strong vote in favor of automated message
- handling, provided it can be a "good neighbor" to other spectrum
- users. Initial survey respondents, while not favoring
- automatic operation, said (if automatic operation is permitted)
- they preferred sub-bands by a 4:1 ratio over any other proposed
- scheme. They did not favor the idea of exclusive sub-bands for
- specific modes. The STA participants point to their
- commendable record in creating a nationwide network for moving
- hundreds of thousands of messages efficiently and without
- technical difficulties. Their efforts have lived up to Part 97.1
- (a), Basis and Purpose of the Amateur Service, "Recognition and
- enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the public as
- a voluntary noncommercial communications service, particularly
- with respect to providing emergency communications."
- Countless pieces of traffic have been transported in national
- and worldwide emergency situations. Messages of a "hobby"
- nature have been an important vehicle allowing the network to be
- developed and maintained in a state of readiness. The
- technical effort required to construct this network, both in
- hardware and software technology has been considerable, and
- certainly meets 97.1(b), "Continuation and extension of the
- amateur's proven ability to contribute to the advancement of the
- radio art." Thousands of bulletin board operators (sysops)
- and tens or hundreds of thousands of digital operators have
- learned to originate, relay and deliver message traffic by means
- not previously available. Part 97.1(d), "Expansion of the
- existing reservoir within the amateur radio service of trained
- operators, technicians and electronics experts," has also been
- served. There is no question of the value provided by this
- message network to other amateurs and to the public at large.
- The Committee acknowledges the success, both technically and
- functionally, of the STA experiment. There have been a few
- reports of interference to foreign phone stations where
- international band plans conflict. There are few if any reports
- of problems with other US stations. The IARU accord minimizes
- or eliminates the concern for interference to foreign stations.
- A major concern had remained, however, that unrestricted HF
- automatic operation permitted to all General, Advanced or
- Amateur Extra class licensees, could easily result in
- interference to other stations on a completely unacceptable
- level. Subdivision of bands by rule was previously rejected, in
- part because, "it will not work on a world wide basis because of
- the differences in the rules between regions and between
- individual administrations." The IARU has now provided a
- subdivision plan which has already met with international
- approval. RECOMMENDATIONS I. The
- Committee wishes to enable as many amateur licensees as
- possible to contribute to, and enjoy, our service. The previous
- recommendation stands, to permit semiautomatic operation in
- any digital portion of any band. This privilege will
- permit a variety of experimentation and operations such as
- personal mailboxes and MSOs to co-exist with "live" users,
- on a non-interference basis. II. By using the IARU Region 2
- band plan, US operation will be in compliance with
- international agreement. Since the sub-bands designated
- by the IARU as "packet priority" will offer no protection
- from interference to other users of that space, including US
- amateurs, the Committee proposes fully-automatic operation
- by US amateurs within those segments of the band, using any
- approved digital data mode. It is recommended that those
- segments be dubbed "automatic priority," as a more accurate,
- descriptive term. III. No packet priority segment was specified
- by the IARU on 40 meters, yet automatic networks have been
- operating there since the beginning of the STA. As we
- approach the sunspot minimum, and the MUF lowers, 40 meters
- will be badly needed for many propagation paths. The
- Committee therefor urges approval of a small automatic
- priority segment from 7.100 to 7.110 MHz. Similarly, no
- digital segment was specified by the IARU for 160 meters.
- While there is little or no digital activity on this band,
- developing modes show promise of improving operation in this
- somewhat hostile (digitally) environment. The Committee
- feels it would be a valuable testing ground, and requests an
- automatic priority segment from 1810 to 1820 KHz. Specific
- frequencies recommended for automatic priority are listed in
- Appendix B. IV. The Committee cannot overemphasize our concern
- for protecting other spectrum users from the potential
- interference of automatic stations. To this end, the
- recommendation for automatic operation is made on the basis
- that protection by rule will be provided in the form of
- specific sub-bands to which fully automatic operation is
- restricted. There is precedent for special use, by-rule
- sub-bands, as in 97.203(d) for beacon stations. Any
- other usage plans, within digital segments, should be by
- voluntary plan, not by rule. The requested sub-bands should
- not place an additional enforcement burden on the FCC.
- Amateurs have always been largely self-regulating. The c
- ommi
-
- ttee views the requested rules not as something else the FCC
- must spend time monitoring, but rather tools to enforce
- reported infractions. V. By current standards, AX.25 is
- considered the least efficient protocol in use for digital
- modes. The STA representatives request, and the Committee
- wholeheartedly agrees, that AX.25 protocol be struck from
- 97.109(e) as a requirement, and replaced with the ability to
- use any accepted digital protocol. Because the investment
- in technology development is large, developers hesitate to
- widely publish details (competitive disadvantage) in the
- early stages. To address this issue, it is proposed that
- developers be allowed the latitude to use new protocols,
- during the development phases, so long as they file details
- of the protocol, privately, with the ARRL. VI. Because digital
- technologies are developing rapidly, the Committee proposes
- to compile, and provide to the Board, a proposal for any
- desirable adjustments to Region 2 band planning, prior to
- future IARU Region 2 conferences. VII. The Committee
- reinforces its previous suggestion that the League undertake
- publication of a tutorial-style operator's guide for HF
- digital operations clearly defining acceptable operating
- practices, voluntary-use band plans, DX windows and beacon
- frequencies. Appendix A
- The following is suggested wording for an addition to Part 97
- authorizing automatic and semiautomatic digital mode operation.
- Note that RTTY, AMTOR, packet, CLOVER, PACTOR and future digital
- data modes are treated equally as "digital modes." 97.3
- Definitions ( ) Unattended Digital Station - A station in the
- amateur service,using any accepted digital mode protocol for
- data or messagetransmission, and operated without a local
- control operatorpresent. ( ) Semiautomatic operation - A
- two-way communication in which thecontrol operator of a locally
- controlled amateur station manuallyinitiates, monitors and
- controls communication between that stationand an unattended
- digital station. 97.109 (e) No station may be automatically
- controlled while transmitting third-party communications, except
- a station retransmitting digital radio communications using an
- accepted protocol on the 6m and shorter wavelength bands, or on
- 10m and longer wavelength bands in sub-bands where automatic
- control is specifically authorized. The retransmitted messages
- must originateat a station that is being locally or remotely
- controlled. 97.216 Unattended Digital Station (a) Any amateur
- station licensed to a holder of a General, Advancedor Amateur
- Extra Class license may be an unattended digitalstation. (b) An
- unattended digital station may operate on any frequency
- authorized for digital transmission modes. (c) No unattended
- digital station may initiate contact withanother station or
- broadcast any undirected signal unless operatingin a band or
- band segment where fully-automatic operation isauthorized. (d)
- The transmitter of an unattended digital station must be
- equipped with a functioning time-out timer that will insure no
- signal is transmitted for longer than five minutes in the event
- ofthe malfunction of control equipment or loss of contact with
- another station. (e) Unless operating in a band segment where
- fully-automatic operation is authorized, the control operator
- initiating contact with an unattended digital station must be
- present at the local control point. The control operator must
- first ascertain that no interference will be caused to existing
- communications, must remainpresent for the duration of the
- contact, and must discontinue thecontact if it becomes evident
- that communications with theunattended digital station is
- interfering with other amateurcommunications.
- Appendix B It is recommended that all stations
- under automatic control berestricted to the following
- Sub-bands... 10 M: 28.120 - 28.189 MHz
- 12 M: 24.925 - 24.930 MHz 15 M: 21.090 -
- 21.125 MHz 17 M: 18.105 - 18.110 MHz
- 20 M: 14.095 - 14.0995 MHz 14.1005
- - 14.112 MHz 30 M: 10.140 - 10.150 MHz
- 40 M: 7.100 - 7.110 MHz 80 M: 3.620
- - 3.635 MHz 160M: 1.810 - 1.820 MHz
- Report from ARRL Digital Committee September 26,
- 1992-------Jon Bloom, KE3Z |
- jbloom@arrl.orgAmerican Radio Relay League | Justice is
- being allowed to do whatever225 Main St. | I
- like. Injustice is whatever preventsNewington, CT 06111
- | my doing so. -- Samuel
- Johnson------------------------------Date: 10 Oct 92 14:46:07
- GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!nigel.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!hri.com!ukma!news@network.
- UCSD.EDUSubject: ARRL RPTR Directory Stinks :-( (?)To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduI am very new (still waiting for my license
- to arrive in the mail), butwhy doesn't somene in each state or
- even in smaller regions than thatjust start solliciting freqs
- and then make lists of them by areas. Thatway we could send
- them around on internet and on packet. I would be willing to
- maintain a list for the central Kentucky area where I live. Is
- this feasible?Its not like I don't understand how you all are
- complaining, but if everyonebought photocopies for a few dollars
- of lists compiled by many many peoplethen they would either
- start doing it right or stop insulting us by doing it at
- all.John----==+ John S. Roberts, Jr. Internet:
- johnr@mik.uky.edu (NeXT) +==-- --==+ 3466 Flintridge
- Drive Bitnet: johnr@ukpr.BITNET +==----==+
- Lexington, Kentucky Work: (606) 272-1417 Ham: pending
- +==----==+ 40517-1119 Work: (606) 257-6100
- DoD: 727 +==--------------------------------Date: 9 Oct 92
- 10:41:29 EDTFrom: psinntp!arrl.org@uunet.uu.netSubject: Comments
- of Digital Committee ReportTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI've just
- posted the report of the Digital Committee. This reportmakes
- recommendations to the Board of Directors. The report does*not*
- embody present ARRL policy, but rather what one committee
- isrecommending as policy. The purpose of releasing this report
- is toallow our members to consider it and to tell the Directors
- whatthey, the members, want them to do about it.If you don't
- read the report, consider the issues, and contact yourDirector
- to provide *your* input, then you lose the opportunity
- todirectly influence the outcome.-------Jon Bloom, KE3Z
- | jbloom@arrl.orgAmerican Radio Relay League | Justice
- is being allowed to do whatever225 Main St. |
- I like. Injustice is whatever preventsNewington, CT 06111
- | my doing so. -- Samuel
- Johnson------------------------------Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92
- 01:22:26 GMTFrom:
- mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx!rsavage@uunet.uu.netSubject: Faster
- PacketTo: packet-radio@ucsd.edu I am seriously considering
- getting involved in 9600 baud packet radio and Iam seeking the
- advise and wisdom of other wireless pioneers. (on thewired
- internet). What experience has there been of hooking packet
- tnc'sdirectly into multiuser computer systems? Obviously the
- computer wouldhave to running in a half duplex mode on the tnc
- ports. Does this requirespecial host modes on the tnc? What has
- peoples experience been with themore sophisticated TCP/IP
- protocols on 1200 baud packet? Ideally I wouldlike to be able to
- run a Telnet emulation on a 9600 baud tnc that could beset for
- single user access with only a small amount of network traffic.
- ------------------------------Date: 10 Oct 92 19:54:09 GMTFrom:
- ddi1!lrark!rick@uunet.uu.netSubject: Is Anyone using MSYS ??To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article <1863@sousa.ltn.dec.com>
- segrest@bobseg.enet.dec.com writes: > >Greetings, > >Is anyone
- using MSYS to run a BBS service? I would very much like to talk
- to >someone with some experience with setting up the mail
- forwarding capabilities >in MSYS. If you know something about
- this topic please send me mail so that >we can correspond. If
- there is someone that you know of who does not have >access to
- the Internet, I will be happy to call them.I use MSYS 1.13 in
- BBS service with forwarding in several directions. Thedoc file
- explains it fairly good, but I would be happy to get you
- started.You can carry this to E-Mail if you like. I travel some
- so allow time forthe messages to traverse.73 - Rick. >-- >Bob
- Segrest >segrest@bobseg.enet.dec.com-- rick@lrark.UUCP
- * bang path --> uunet!ddi1!lrark!rick *Ricky Mobley
- * lrark (501) 224-9454 *1800 Sanford
- Dr. #4 * GEnie Unix RT SysOp address LRARK *Little
- Rock, AR 72207 * WB5FDP.AR.USA.NA wb5fdp.ampr.org
- *------------------------------Date: 10 Oct 92 22:15:07 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu@network.UCSD.EDUS
- ubject: Kantronics KPC-1?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduYup, it's me
- again ... this time, with ... a new old toy!! :-)Found this guy,
- the KPC-1, at a flea fest, (yep, another one), and picked itup
- for the proverbial song. (The PKT-1 ain't workin' yet ... What
- did I haveto lose?) No manuals, no docs, no power supply, (but
- that's no biggie), nonothing but the TNC box for $20. How could
- I pass it up???? Anywayhow ... Does anyone know anything at all
- about this creature? Features, drawbacks,compatibility,
- upgradible-ness, where can I get documentation? Actually, Ihear
- that Kantronics provides documentation on MS-0DOS floppies for
- some of their TNC's. If so, how can I get it? Or if anyone has
- it, can I have it puh-lease??? :-) I hope this one works--the
- guy here told me the same thingthe guy who I bought the PKT-1
- from: "Well, I ain't never made a contact on the air with it but
- it talks to the computer ..." Maybe better luck this time?It's a
- lot smaller, so I betcha I keep it--unless someone says the
- other oneis better. Dunno.Any and all info muchly
- appreciated!!!! :-)73-- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELVRiff-Raff
- #4Internet: davros@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu"One foot in a brave new
- world, one foot still in bed ..."--Those Who Dig: "Mr.
- Banana-Head"------------------------------Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992
- 17:23:44 +0000From:
- pipex!demon!tedb.demon.co.uk!ted@uunet.uu.netSubject: rsgb gb2rs
- news 11th october To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduGood morning. It's
- Sunday the 11th of October and here is the GB2RS newsbroadcast,
- prepared by the Radio Society of Great Britain.This week we have
- news of the Funeral of "Dud" Charman, G6CJ; a New CouncilMember
- for Zone C; appointment of an Honorary Officer, some Special
- Jamboreeon the Air stations, microwave enthusiasts; plus all the
- usual DX, contest,rally, propagation and club news.With the
- death and funeral of Frederick J. H. ( Dud ) Charman, BEM, G6CJ,
- theSociety and the Amateur Radio movement have lost a unique
- character, whocontributed greatly to the hobby in the early and
- in-between years. CouncilMember John Forward, G3HTA attended the
- funeral on behalf of the Radio Societyof Great Britain. A full
- obituary on the life and work of Dud Charman, G6CJwill appear
- soon in Radio Communication.At the RSGB's Council Meeting held
- last month the decision that Neil Lasher,G6HIU, be invited by
- Council to be a co-opted member for Zone C under Article27 of
- the Articles of Association was agreed. This took effect from
- the 25thof September.News now of the appointment of John Irving,
- G4XJT as the Honorary Officer forthe position of Emergency
- Communications Officer. He will take up the positionwith
- immediate effect, but for the moment all communication is to be
- passedvia the Chairman of the RSGB Membership Liaison Committee,
- Clive Trotman,GW4YKL, whose address is correct in the RSGB Call
- Book. Further details of theaddress and telephone number for
- John Irving will be released as soon as theybecome
- available.Next weekend is the 35th Scout Jamboree on the Air,
- which this year has thetheme " Let's Talk". Last minute details
- and information about the event canbe obtained by telephoning
- the JOTA hotline on 071 581 9920 from Monday the12th of October
- onwards. Special stations that will be taking part this
- yearinclude GB2TWB Tower World Blackpool, at the top of
- Blackpool Tower and GB2BTat the top of BT Tower, London. This is
- part of a link-up between Scouts atTowers around the world which
- are members of the World Federation of GreatTowers. Please
- remember that the aim of the event is to enable Scouts andGuides
- to talk to and find out about each other. They should be given
- everyencouragement to do this within the rules of the
- licence.The next RSGB Microwave Round Table meeting has been
- arranged for Sunday the18th of October. This meeting is the
- scheduled Autumn event of the Southernseries.The venue is the
- Flight Refuelling Amateur Radio Society Club,Wimborne, Dorset,
- which is signposted from the Wimborne by-pass. The meetingwill
- start between 10.00 and 10.30am. It will feature an open forum;
- itemsunder construction and complete stations; a bring and buy
- sale; a calibrationand alignment session, and a short
- presentation. Further details can beobtained by telephoning Ted
- Jewell, G4ELM, on 0730 892462Now for some repeater news; We
- apologise to the GB3DS Repeater group who were incorrectly
- listed in the October RadCom article on repeaters as having
- completed the documentation but not paid the franchise. The
- payment was received by the accounts section at RSGB
- Headquarters in June but was not notified to the repeater person
- for issue of the franchise letter.Now some items of HF DX news
- from the weekly RSGB DX News Sheet which isedited by Brendan
- McCartney, G4DYO. From Canada, the Listowel DistrictSecondary
- School Amateur Radio Club will sign as VD325E from Saturday the
- 17thuntil Friday the 30th of October. This to celebrate the 25th
- anniversary ofElma Township Public School. From Fernando de
- Noronha, PP1CZ will signPY0F/PP1CZ from Saturday the 17th until
- Saturday the 31st of October. FromAntigua, JP1NWZ and JL1MUT
- will sign V2/home call from 21st to the 28th ofOctober. They
- will be active on 160 to 10 metre bands including the WARC,using
- CW and SSB. From Ascension Island, N6TJ will be active as ZD8Z
- fromTuesday the 13th to Wednesday the 28th of October.Rally news
- now, and we know of three events for today Sunday the 11th.The
- Armagh and Dungannon and District Amateur Radio Society Rally is
- beingheld at the Gosford House Hotel, Markethill, County Armagh.
- Doors open at12.00 noon. The event features the usual traders, a
- bring and buy andrefreshments will be available. Talk-in is on
- channel S22. The Hornsea AmateurRadio Club Rally is being held
- at the Floral Hall, Hornsea, North Humberside.Doors open at
- 11am, 10.30am for disabled visitors. The event features
- tradestands, a bring and buy. The South Devon Radio Club's
- 'Computercation 92'Computer and Radio Rally is being held at the
- Hillhead Camp Site, DartmouthRoad, Brixham, Devon. Doors open at
- 10.00am and the event features tradestands, car boot sale and
- refreshments. Talk-in will be on channel S22 viaGB4CPU. There
- are no scheduled rally events that we know of for next
- weekendSaturday the 17th and Sunday the 18th of October.HF
- Contest news now:During today Sunday the 11th, the RSGB's
- 21/28MHz Telephony Contest is takingplace from 0700 until
- 1900GMT. During next Sunday the 18th the RSGB's 21MHz CWContest
- will take place between 0700 and 1900GMT. See April RadCom page
- 66 forfurther details.Next the VHF/UHF Contest news:The next
- RSGB UHF event is the 432MHz Cumulatives for Wednesday the 14th
- ofOctober. It runs from 1930 to 2200GMT. This is the first of
- five to be held inthe next three months. See June RadCom page 65
- for further details. The nextRSGB VHF event is the 144MHz CW
- Cumulative for Friday the 16th of October. Itruns from 1930 to
- 2200GMT and June RadCom has further details.Special eventsDuring
- next weekend the Scottish Tourist Board Radio Amateur Expedition
- Group,will use the callsign GB2STB from Airdrie Town Hall,
- Airdrie.This is to markthe Launch of Airdrie Mod 93, the 101st
- International Gaelic Festival. All theSpecial Event locations
- operated from by the Group are open to the Public.Contact with
- the stations taking part will count towards a Certificate
- andTrophies Awards. For further information contact GM3MTH, by
- telephoning 0236440495And now the solar factual data:The period
- 28th September to the 4th October saw considerable
- magneticdisturbance due to the passage of a coronal hole, there
- was no flare activity.Very poor ionospheric conditions resulted
- and were only just recovering by thetime this bulletin was being
- prepared. Sun spot counts meaned at 136 thoughthey ranged from
- 93 up to 179 over the period. Solar flux levels averaged
- 118units and did not vary much day to day. The geomagnetic Ap
- indices reachedmagstorm levels at Wingst on the 28th at 12.03
- GMT, and by the 29th stormlevels of Ap 57 units were recorded.
- Conditions remained very unsettled up tothe 2nd October, when
- the levels then declined to quiet. The period averaged22.7
- units. The state has been no flares and no protons just a
- magnetic storm.There was a classic pre auroral enhancement of
- the HF bands leading up to the28th, then the radio quality
- indices collapsed to extremely low levels on allcircuits by the
- 29th, and were only beginning to improve by the 4th. The
- aaindices as supplied by the British Geological Survey for the
- period 22nd to28th September were quiet, with the daily averages
- for the period being 17.5nanoTeslas only equal to K3. The mean
- sunspot count for September was 62.9with the maximum of 86 on
- the 24th and 27th. and the minimum of 38 on the 8th.The smoothed
- count for March 1992 is 108 +/- 5, with the forecast
- forSeptember 1992 being 94 +/- 15. The Orionids meteor shower
- starts October 16thbut reaches its peak on the 22nd.Now the
- ionospheric data for England and Wales:The F2 daytime critical
- frequencies at Slough as reported by Appleton averaged7.3MHz but
- dropped to only 5.5MHz on the 29th, and though levels
- wererecovering by the 4th October, only 7.7MHz was recorded. The
- darkness hourlows averaged 2.1MHz and did not vary much day to
- day, with the low levels nowbeing around 05.00 hours most
- days.Now the ionospheric data for the north:The F2 critical
- frequencies are not available from Irkutsk any more, so wewill
- be using the Sverdlodvsk:- (pronounced SVAIRD-LOVSK) :- data
- which issituated at North 56 and east 61 degrees, The daytime
- levels averaged 6.8MHzand the darkness hour lows 2.4MHz. With
- satellites and fibre optic cables,taking over communication
- circuits, interest in the ionosphere is now verylow. One reason
- why observatories like Irkutsk are dropping out. Its
- onlyamateurs and shortwave broadcasters that are interested in
- the ionospherethese days.And lastly the solar forecast:This
- week, the quiet side of the sun will be coming into view, solar
- fluxlevels are expected to be about the 110s. Magnetic activity
- is expected to bequiet. Ionospheric MUFs during daylight are
- expected to reach 24MHz, thoughconditions could improve towards
- the end of the week when 28MHz may be openfor north/south paths.
- The darkness hours are expected to reach 18MHz, with14MHz being
- best for east/west contacts. And that's the end of the
- solar information.Finally in the main news, the licence issuing
- agency, SSL, has informed theSociety that as of last Wednesday
- morning, the latest callsigns issued were inthe G0 S M and G7 N
- T series, and Novice calls in the 2 0 A Dand 2 1 B C
- series.You're listening to GB2RS, the news broadcasting service
- of the Radio Societyof Great Britain, transmitting in the 80,
- 40, 6 and 2 metre bands.------------------------------Date: Sat,
- 10 Oct 1992 18:23:34 GMTFrom:
- usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!cs.ubc.ca!newsserver.sfu.ca!al
- lenm@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: TheNET and TCP/IP ??To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edusegrest@bobseg.enet.dec.com
- writes:>Greetings,>A group of local packet users are going to
- set up a TheNET node. The plan>is to use the TN210 software
- release. Another ham told me yesterday that >there was a newer
- release of TheNET that also provided some incremental
- TCP/IP>support. He thought it was referred to as version X1G by
- G8KBB.>Does anyone know anything about this? If it is real,
- what does it by me and>where can I get it (preferably via
- Internet FTP)?Try the old standby ucsd.edu,
- /hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming/tnet-x1g.zipas of a few minutes
- ago...>Thanks in advance, any pointers are greatly
- appreciated....>-->Bob Segrest>segrest@dc101.enet.dec.comAllen
- Marallenm@wizard.ucs.sfu.ca------------------------------Date:
- Sun, 11 Oct 1992 02:02:09 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!think.com!mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!bloom-picayune.mit.edu!y
- og-soggoth.MIT.EDU!brit@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Trouble with
- Baycom modemTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI just finished putting
- together a Baycom-type modem on a breadboardusing a TCM3105. I
- hooked it up to a 386 and an Icom IC-228H butI'm only getting
- about 3.6V to power the modem, I'm not sure if theserial port is
- actually being controlled by the Baycom program at all.I tried
- switching the program between COM1 and COM2 but nothing
- changes.I have been able to connect to myself though, if that
- means anything,but it won't transmit or receive anything to or
- from anyone else.Voltages on the serial port pins seem to never
- change.Has anyone had any problems like this one or could anyone
- help me outwith this?By the way, it's Baycom 1.4, and also I
- made sure there was no mousedriver or anything of the sort
- running at the same time.Thanks in
- advance,BritKB4ZBP/KTbrit@athena.mit.edu-------------------------
- -----Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 06:43:07 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!think.com!mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!bloom-picay
- une.mit.edu!yog-soggoth.MIT.EDU!brit@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- Trouble with Baycom modem SNAFUTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI'm the
- one who posted about trouble with a Baycom modem.I hooked it up
- to another PC and it seems to be working, orat least mostly,
- don't know why it didn't work before though.Now it transmits, I
- monitored the audio with an HT, but I don'tknow if it's
- receiving. Is there a way of seeing everythingthat the radio
- receives, instad of what is addressed to or fromme only? I'm
- using Baycom 1.4.Thanks again,73
- BritKB4ZBP/KTbrit@athena.mit.edu------------------------------Dat
- e: 10 Oct 1992 06:15:01 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: UnsubTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduUnsubscribe------------------------------Dat
- e: 11 Oct 92 01:50:03 GMTFrom:
- gatech!concert!uvaarpa!vdoe386!norfolk!fmathews@RUTGERS.EDUSubjec
- t: What do I need?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI am interested in
- trying out packet. I currently hold aTechnicians class license
- (KC4FKX). I have a two meter radio,antenna, and o course a
- computer (386SX @ 25 Mhz). I think Ineed a (TNC?) and software
- (any suggestions?). Is thereanything else? Frank
- Matthews Indian River High School Chesapeake, VA
- 23325------------------------------Date: 10 Oct 1992 15:23:42
- GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.e
- du!studsys.mscs.mu.edu!jason@network.UCSD.EDUTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences <BvpIw7.4Jr@zero.com>,
- <Bvtn0I.nM@news.cso.uiuc.edu>,
- <johnr.718728367@mik.uky.edu>eduSubject : Re: ARRL RPTR
- Directory Stinks :-( (?)I have a list of packet and repeater
- stations for Wisconsin. I could post itif everyone wants, but
- it is 38K. :) Is there a site where I should put it upfor
- FTP?------------------------------End of Packet-Radio Digest V92
- #276******************************Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 04:30:02
- PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #277To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Mon,
- 12 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 277Today's Topics:
- Adding 9600 baud modem to a PK-88 ARRL
- RPTR Directory Stinks :-( (?) Kantronics
- KPC-1? (2 msgs) Packet-Radio Digest V92 #276
- TCM3105 modem adjustments
- What do I need?Send Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 10:12:07 EDTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!l
- inac!att!att!fang!gator!towers!bluemoon!gerry@network.UCSD.EDUSub
- ject: Adding 9600 baud modem to a PK-88To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edu> Look in the latest issue of the "Packet
- Shift Register" (the official organ > of TAPR) for details. It
- has blow-by-blow details for the installation > of the modem
- into PK88, PK232MBX, DRSI board and others.> > Rajiv
- > aa9ch > Address: r-dewan@nwu.edu>
- Phone: None. Only CW.> And AMTOR occasionally.Have you a
- source for "Packet Shift Register"; maybe address for
- TAPR?gerry@bluemoon.rn My amateur radio callsign is K8EF, and
- mypacket radio address is
- K8EF@W8CQK.OH.USA.NA------------------------------Date: 10 Oct
- 92 23:00:51 GMTFrom:
- cbmvax!snark!beyonet!steve@RUTGERS.EDUSubject: ARRL RPTR
- Directory Stinks :-( (?)To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1992Oct9.022433.7423@col.hp.com> bobw@col.hp.com (Bob Witte)
- writes:> It seems to me that the packet stuff is evolving and
- changing so fast> that the ARRL ought to just drop it from the
- repeater directory.> It seems like a bit of a mismatch anyway
- ('course, then there's the> listing of Beacons!! Sheesh.) I
- think they should drop it if they can't handle it. Then again
- they should get rid of the beacon list and all of the other non
- repeater info. But why don't they do this? Because it would make
- the publication smaller and then they can't sell it for $6.00
- therefore they would not be making the profit by selling a
- directory that hardly changed at all since the last directory.
- Imagine if they had only the repeater info in there I would only
- buy a book once and never buy it again because it wouldn't be
- worth buying since it didn't change much in 4 or 5 years get it?
- Its all a ARRL scam to produce a half-assed directory with other
- bells and whistles with pages then last years so it looks like
- things are happening for the advertisers. Too bad the info is so
- outdated and wrong because it can't keep up with the new
- technology out there. I'll never buy an repeater directory again
- from ARRL until they catch up with the responsabilities. Whats
- the other repeater directories name that was mentioned out there
- with the "provate" repeater info?-- |Stephen Urich|
- Internet:steve@zero.com | "Cattle mutilations ||NIC:
- SU2 | UUCP:beyonet!steve@cs.widener.edu | are up!"
- --Sneakers ||ARS: WB3FTP |
- Packet:WB3FTP@WA3NWL.#EPA.PA.USA.NA | ax25<->PBBS<->IPGATE
- ||Bensalem, PA |Radio:wb3ftp@wb3ftp.ampr.org[44.80.8.44]|
- TCP/IP-FTP-SMTP-UNIX | | ------------------------------Date: 11
- Oct 92 14:08:26 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!europa.asd.cont
- el.com!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- Kantronics KPC-1?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <81482@ut-emx.uucp> davros@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Buddy Brannan)
- writes:>Yup, it's me again ... this time, with ... a new old
- toy!! :-)>>Found this guy, the KPC-1, at a flea fest, (yep,
- another one), and picked it>up for the proverbial song. (The
- PKT-1 ain't workin' yet ... What did I have>to lose?) No
- manuals, no docs, no power supply, (but that's no biggie),
- no>nothing but the TNC box for $20. How could I pass it up????
- Anywayhow ... >Does anyone know anything at all about this
- creature? Features, drawbacks,Two major problem areas. The unit
- has no hardware time out timer. Itcan lock up and melt down your
- radio. (Sad experience) Don't plan onusing it unattended without
- an outboard PTT timer. Second, it usessoftware DCD. It falses on
- noise *a lot*, you must run a squelchedradio. Naturally it's not
- software or hardware compatible with TAPRTNC2s. That means no
- nifty ROM upgrades or high speed modems. Otherthan that, it's an
- ok little box.Gary KE4ZV------------------------------Date: 11
- Oct 1992 20:40:02 -0500From:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!nemesis.ksu.ksu
- .edu!news@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Kantronics KPC-1?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edudavros@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Buddy Brannan)
- writes:>Found this guy, the KPC-1, at a flea fest, (yep, another
- one), and picked it[...]>Does anyone know anything at all about
- this creature? Features, drawbacks,>compatibility,
- upgradible-ness, where can I get documentation? Actually, I>hear
- that Kantronics provides documentation on MS-0DOS floppies for
- some of >their TNC's. If so, how can I get it? Or if anyone has
- it, can I have it >puh-lease??? :-) Old box. The KPC-1 is
- upgradable to Kantronics's current firmwarelevel, but it may
- require a minor modification. I believe the problemis in size
- of Static RAM originally installed.As Gary said, the KPC-1 does
- not have a watchdog timer. However, Ihave never had any trouble
- with my KPC-2 or my KAM keying up andburning out a radio. Nor
- have any of the other 20 Kantronics usersthat I know. (I think
- we have had this discussion before :-) )Kantronics does have a
- BBS, but I don't remember seeing any manuals on-line or hearing
- about 'manuals on disk'. (though it is not a bad idea)-Steve
- Schallehn KB0AGD------------------------------Date: 12 Oct 1992
- 03:15:27 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject:
- Packet-Radio Digest V92 #276To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn
- Packet-Radio Digest V92 #276,
- mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx!rsavage@uunet.uu.netsaid:->To quote John
- Lennon. "There is nothing that's been done that can't be>done",
- because if you go ahead and do something they can't say you
- can't>do it because you have already done it! Though at this
- time I would not>advocate singing in non digital form.Hey,
- feller!If you're gonna QUOTE John Lennon, at least make sure you
- know what he said inthe first place!What he actually wrote
- was:- "There's nothing you can do that can't be done"Go ahead
- and read it - makes a real
- difference:-)------------------------------Date: Sun, 11 Oct
- 1992 21:21:17 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!think.com!mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!bloom-picayune.mit.edu!d
- obbs.MIT.EDU!brit@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: TCM3105 modem
- adjustmentsTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI have a modem built around
- a TCM3105 connected to a 386 running Baycom 1.4,I followed the
- schematics in tcm3105.ps that I got from an ftp site.There is
- one problem: pin 7 (RXB) on the TCM3105 is connected to the
- tapon a 50Kohm pot, the pot is connected between Vcc and ground.
- Varying thepot chages the wave of the data sent to the computer
- by the TCM3105, (I'mnot sure how to describe the difference
- technically, but) it goes frompredominantly "high" to
- predominantly "low" (as if I were changing thetime constant of a
- capacitor circuit in there somewhere, or something ofthe sort).
- How can I calibrate the pot to the right position? I
- supposethere is only one point where the data received will make
- any sense to thecomputer.Thanks for any help,73 de
- BritKB4ZBP/KTbrit@athena.mit.edu------------------------------Dat
- e: 12 Oct 92 05:23:58 GMTFrom:
- agate!rsoft!mindlink!a3853@ames.arpaSubject: What do I need?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edu>I am interested in trying out packet. I
- currently hold a>Technicians class license (KC4FKX). I have a
- two meter radio,>antenna, and o course a computer (386SX @ 25
- Mhz). I think I>need a (TNC?) and software (any suggestions?).
- Is there>anything else?Hi Frank,Thats about all you need. As for
- the TNC you need to decide if you want to gopacket only for
- would you like to be able to operate other digital modes nowor
- in the future ie RTTY, AMTOR etc on HF as well as packet for
- VHF. If youwant to go packet only the AEA PK88 is a fine TNC. If
- you want to go to amulti mode unit then the Kantronics KAM, AEA
- PK232, or MFJ 12??. All are goodunits. My personal preference is
- the KAM. As for software you can use anyterminal program you
- would use with a telephone modem but there are someadvantages to
- using software dedicated to packet..rtty...etc. Hostmaster IIis
- an excellent program put out for the KAM but it's a commercial
- package andI'm not sure what it currently retails for. In the
- shareware market Lan Link2.0 is quite recent, it lacks a little
- in the user friendly category but itis an excellent program with
- alot of useful features. Drop me a note if youwant to try and
- have trouble locating it locally.Jim Sollows
- VE7JLS------------------------------Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992
- 03:42:37 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.iastate.edu!sknapp@network.UCSD.
- EDUTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences
- <Bvtn0I.nM@news.cso.uiuc.edu>,
- <1992Oct9.022433.7423@col.hp.com>, <BvxH9H.Crn@zero.com>Subject
- : Re: ARRL RPTR Directory Stinks :-( (?)In article
- <BvxH9H.Crn@zero.com> steve@zero.com (Steve Urich) writes:>In
- article <1992Oct9.022433.7423@col.hp.com> bobw@col.hp.com (Bob
- Witte) writes:> I think they should drop it if they can't handle
- it. Then again they> should get rid of the beacon list and all
- of the other non repeater> info. But why don't they do this?
- Because it would make the publication> smaller and then they
- can't sell it for $6.00 therefore they would> not be making the
- profit by selling a directory that hardly changed> at all since
- the last directory. Imagine if they had only the repeater> info
- in there I would only buy a book once and never buy it
- again> because it wouldn't be worth buying since it didn't
- change much in> 4 or 5 years get it? Its all a ARRL scam to
- produce a half-assed> directory with other bells and whistles
- with pages then last years> so it looks like things are
- happening for the advertisers. Too bad> the info is so outdated
- and wrong because it can't keep up with> the new technology out
- there. I'll never buy an repeater directory> again from ARRL
- until they catch up with the responsabilities.THE REAL SCAM is
- that is costs $$ to be in it as well as to buy it. While Iwill
- agree that the ARRL is all we have lobbying for us in congress,
- theycould do a better job with a few things....For those with
- the '92 (blue) directory make this addition to the IOWA
- pagesunder central:Ames WA0KHF 147.375 + CARC oaeAnd if you are
- near Ames, give us a
- shout!___________________________________________________________
- _____________ Steven M. Knapp Computer
- Engineering Studentsknapp@iastate.edu President
- Cyclone Amateur Radio ClubIowa State University; Ames, IA
- Durham Center Operations
- Staff------------------------------End of Packet-Radio Digest
- V92 #277******************************Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92
- 04:30:04 PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #278To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Tue,
- 13 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 2Today's Topics:
- Adding 9600 baud modem to a PK-88 ARRL RPTR
- Directory Stinks :-( (?) (3 msgs)
- Kantronics KPC-1? (2 msgs) KPC-3 power
- jack PSK on 10 meters
- TAPR TAPR Deviation Meter
- Planned ???Send Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:05:28 GMTFrom:
- news.acns.nwu.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!rdewan@network.UCSD.EDUSubj
- ect: Adding 9600 baud modem to a PK-88To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI
- wrote: >Look in the latest issue of the "Packet Shift Register"
- (the official organ Mea Culpa. It should be "Packet STATUS
- Register". This is the kindof errors I make after fooling
- around with shift registers.BTW, TAPR's phone number is (602)
- 749 9479. Great organization.Rajiv
- aa9ch Address: r-dewan@nwu.eduPhone: None. Only CW.And
- AMTOR occasionally.------------------------------Date: Mon, 12
- Oct 1992 19:45:41 GMTFrom:
- tcsi.com!iat.holonet.net!bwilkins@uunet.uu.netSubject: ARRL RPTR
- Directory Stinks :-( (?)To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduThe ARRL
- compiles lists that are sent in by the recognized local
- repeatercoordinators. This is done once a year. In Northern
- California there areover a hundred changes just to the voice
- repeater listings. About a 10 -15 percent update.Does one really
- need a directory to operate packet ?I dont think so...Nodes will
- tell you of Routes....BBS s have files of info if you just
- look.Northern Amateur Relay Council of California publishes a
- Local RepeaterDirectory twice a year. Four Dollars postage paid.
- PO BOX 60531 Sunnyvale,CA 94088-0531What kind of digital
- activity should be published ?Network Nodes KaNodes BBS
- PacketCluster TCP.IP serversin other words service
- providers....Should the 5000 home digis in nor calif be
- published ? NOTBob Wilkins n6fri <editor Northern California
- Repeater Directory>------------------------------Date: Mon, 12
- Oct 1992 22:48:12 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hp-col!bobw@network.
- UCSD.EDUSubject: ARRL RPTR Directory Stinks :-( (?)To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edusknapp@iastate.edu (Steven M. Knapp)
- writes: [stuff Deleted ] > THE REAL SCAM is that is costs $$ to
- be in it as well as to buy it. While I> will agree that the ARRL
- is all we have lobbying for us in congress, they> could do a
- better job with a few things....> What? My UHF machine is in
- the directory and I am sure that I didn't pay any money for
- that. Bob KB0CY bobw@col.hp.com
- ------------------------------Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:21:56
- GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!scd.hp.com!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!news1.boi.hp.com!jhays@
- network.UCSD.EDUSubject: ARRL RPTR Directory Stinks :-( (?)To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article <Bw0xK6.2CI@iat.holonet.net>
- bwilkins@iat.holonet.net (Bob Wilkins n6fri) writes:>>What kind
- of digital activity should be published ?>The frequencies and
- modes should be documented in the repeater
- directory,co-ordination gives legitimacy in disputes.On another
- note, we need to adopt a "highest and best use" philosophyon
- co-ordination --- i.e. a public service club with large
- membership shouldget precedance for a repeater pair, before 2
- people who want a privaterepeater to yak 10 minutes a day on the
- way to work whent hey could easilyoperate simplex, or use a
- shared repeater.John KD7UW-- John D. Hays [KD7UW]
- |Email: [UUCP] ...!hplabs!hpdmd48!jhaysFirmware
- Engineer | [INTERNET]
- jhays@boi.hp.comBoise Printer Division | [GEnie]
- HAYSBoise, Idaho |
- [Compu$erve]
- 72725,424------------------------------Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992
- 19:00:18 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!scd.hp.com!hplextra!hpl-opus!hpnmdla!alanb@network.UCS
- D.EDUSubject: Kantronics KPC-1?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn
- rec.radio.amateur.packet, steve@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve
- Schallehn) writes:>davros@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Buddy Brannan)
- writes:>As Gary said, the KPC-1 does not have a watchdog timer.
- However, I>have never had any trouble with my KPC-2 or my KAM
- keying up and>burning out a radio. Nor have any of the other 20
- Kantronics users>that I know. (I think we have had this
- discussion before :-) )I did. My !@#$%^&! KPC-2 locked up in
- transmit -- it was over a day before I noticed. Fortunately the
- power supply failed first and actedas an (expensive) fuse for
- the radio. I did some experimenting, and found that the KPC-2
- occasionally locks in transmit when power is first turned on.
- Evidently there was a momentary power failure when I was not at
- home.I had always assumed that there WAS a timer in the box.
- All the otherTNC's have them. Why doesn't Kantronics include a
- warning in the manual?AL N1AL------------------------------Date:
- Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:46:26 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cis.o
- hio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnewsc!cbfsb!
- cbnewsb.cb.att.com!wa2ise@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Kantronics
- KPC-1?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <14580038@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com> alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan
- Bloom) writes:>I did. My !@#$%^&! KPC-2 locked up in transmit
- -- it was over a day >before I noticed. Fortunately the power
- supply failed first and acted>as an (expensive) fuse for the
- radio. >>I did some experimenting, and found that the KPC-2
- occasionally locks >in transmit when power is first turned on.
- Evidently there was a >momentary power failure when I was not at
- home.My KPC2 _once_ got stuck in transmit mode for a day or so.
- In my case, theradio took it OK, and so did the power supply.
- This probably wiped outactivity on the freq in my area. But I
- only run 8 watts (about half getsout of the 50 feet of RG58).
- Haven't had it happen again for a couple
- years.------------------------------Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92
- 05:04:04 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!stanford.edu!EE.Stanford.EDU!usenet
- @network.UCSD.EDUSubject: KPC-3 power jackTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduI just bought a Kantronics KPC-3 and tried
- to dothe battery mod. I discovered that the externalpower jack
- was defective and when the externalpower plug was not attached,
- the 9V batterywas not connected.... This happened on
- twosuccessive TNC's! Kantronics promises tosend me a new
- working jack. If anyone hassimilar problems, they might call
- Kantronicstech support. I would be curious to knowif anyone has
- successfully done the modificationor if all units have defective
- power jacks.Edward
- (KM6IQ)plumer@isl.stanford.edu------------------------------Date:
- 12 Oct 1992 08:19:26 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: PSK on 10 metersTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn Packet-Radio Digest #276, rsavage
- writes:>Have people tried using 1200 baud BPSK modems on 10
- meters?There were some articles on this in the May and September
- issues of QEX, reprinted in the October 1991 issue of Packet
- Status Register. The authors (W9UWE, KB6BT and K2RDX) report
- excellent performance as well as monitoring operation from
- Japan, Philippines and Australia on 15 meters, where 1200 baud
- operation is legel on that band.He further suggests 9600 bps
- operation on 6 meters. In much of the western US, there is a
- 4800 bps backbone which has been in operation for several years
- on this
- band.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
- Bob Nielsen W6SWE Internet: rnielsen@tapr.ampr.org ++
- ax.25: w6swe@wb7tpy.az.usa.na ++ Tucson, Arizona
- amateur IP: 44.124.12.16 ++
- CIS: 71540,2364
- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
- -----------------------Date: 12 Oct 1992 08:33:40 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: TAPRTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn packet-radio digest #277, gerry K8EF
- writes,>Have you a source for "Packet Shift Register"; maybe
- address for TAPR?The name of the newsletter is "Packet Status
- Register". TAPR can be reached at:Tucson Amateur Packet
- RadioP.O. Box 12925Tucson, AZ 85732Phone 602-749-9479(Office
- hours 10am - 3 pm, Tues-Fri)FAX 602-749-5636Internet:
- tapr@tapr.ampr.orgBob Nielsen, W6SWEPresident, Tucson Amateur
- Packet
- Radio++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
- Bob Nielsen W6SWE Internet: rnielsen@tapr.ampr.org ++
- ax.25: w6swe@wb7tpy.az.usa.na ++ Tucson, Arizona
- amateur IP: 44.124.12.16 ++
- CIS: 71540,2364
- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
- -----------------------Date: 13 Oct 92 01:40:58 GMTFrom:
- pa.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!sousa.ltn.dec.com
- !bobseg.enet.dec.com!segrest@decwrl.dec.comSubject: TAPR
- Deviation Meter Planned ???To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduA friend of
- mine loaned me a few back copies of QEX this past week and I
- cameacross something that I would like to find out more about.
- In the January 1992edition there was an article titled "TAPR
- Deviation Meter Planned". In the article Lyle Johnson, WA7GXD,
- described TAPR plans to build a microprocessorbased deviation
- meter with a built in 2 meter receiver for around a $100 inkit
- form.I would really like to find out what the status is on this
- project. For example, how is the prototype work going, when
- will the kit be available andhow much has the kit cost
- projection grown. I pulled his address out of theInternet
- callserver and tried to call hime this evening with no luck as
- hisphone number is unlisted.If anyone knows anything about this
- project, I would like to hear an update...--Bob Segrest,
- KD4PWUsegrest@dc101.enet.dec.com------------------------------End
- of Packet-Radio Digest V92
- #278******************************Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 04:30:02
- PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #279To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Wed,
- 14 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 2Today's Topics:
- CNC this year ? DJ-F1T to Heath
- TNC-1 cable question KPC-3 power jack
- Newsreader for KA9Q NOS on PC? (2 msgs)
- SETI info request TAPR Deviation
- Meter Planned ??? tcp/ip configuration
- Trouble with Baycom modem
- Wanted: Used TNCSend Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: 13 Oct 92 12:22:40 GMTFrom:
- mcsun!uknet!acorn!agodwin@uunet.uu.netSubject: CNC this year
- ?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduCan someone tell me when the ARRL
- Computer Networking Conference is tobe held, this year ? And
- when the minutes are published ?I shan't get to the conference,
- but I'd like to know when I can order acopy of the
- minutes.-adrianAdrian Godwin : agodwin@acorn.co.uk :
- adrian@fangorn.demon.co.uk : g7hwn@gb7khwObDisclaimer : I
- believe this rubbish .. don't imagine that anyone else
- does.------------------------------Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 04:58:39
- GMTFrom: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx!mwgordon@uunet.uu.netSubject:
- DJ-F1T to Heath TNC-1 cable questionTo: packet-radio@ucsd.edu
- Does anyone have the pinouts for the speaker and mic jacks on
- theAlinco DJ-F1T? I have to make up a cable to interface it to
- aHeathkit TNC-1. Is the push-to-talk a simple connection to
- ground or voltage,or is this one of those impedance changing
- circuits that are sopopular among the handhelds? How do you
- wire these? Also, does the TNC-1 have a watchdog timer on the
- PTT line?Thanks much,Mike Gordon N9LOI
- 99681084@uwwvax.uww.edu------------------------------Date: Tue,
- 13 Oct 1992 22:34:28 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!spool.mu.edu
- !umn.edu!umeecs!nova!chiner@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: KPC-3 power
- jackTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI had no problems installing the
- battery in the KPC-3. Works fineoff the battery, or the jack.
- Nice TNC.--Chris Hiner chiner@nova.gmi.eduSignature file
- temporarily unavailableAbort, Retry,
- Fail?------------------------------Date: 13 Oct 1992 17:47:50
- GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!spool.mu.edu!agate!usene
- t.ins.cwru.edu!po.CWRU.Edu!axa12@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- Newsreader for KA9Q NOS on PC?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduCan
- someone suggest a good news reader that can be used in
- conjunction with NOS on a PC? I will be using PA0GRI NOS 911229
- to contact the NNTP server and download news. I am simply
- looking for a good system to read and manage news with - i.e
- read news, expire articles, andprepare articles for
- posting.Suggestions for news readers would be much
- appreciated.Any tips on setting up news with Ka9Q NOS would also
- be helpful.Thank you,Ashok-- Ashok
- Aiyar axa12@po.cwru.edu Visit the
- IBM-PC Sig on Freenet------------------------------Date: Tue, 13
- Oct 1992 18:13:30 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.e
- du!umn.edu!umeecs!eecs.umich.edu!ayman@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- Newsreader for KA9Q NOS on PC?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduaxa12@po.CWRU.Edu (Ashok Aiyar) wrote:>>Can
- someone suggest a good news reader that can be used in
- conjunction >with NOS on a PC? I will be using PA0GRI NOS
- 911229 to contact the >NNTP server and download news. I am
- simply looking for a good system >to read and manage news with -
- i.e read news, expire articles, and>prepare articles for
- posting. Article: 2398 of news.software.readers From:
- nikki@trmphrst.demon.co.uk (Nikki Locke) Subject: News/mail
- reader for DOS Organization: Trumphurst Ltd. Lines: 33 Date:
- Wed, 16 Sep 1992 18:32:41 +0000 Message-ID:
- <716694839snx@trmphrst.demon.co.uk>[...]The connection software
- is based on Phil Karn's excellent KA9Q program, and the news
- reader is based on snews from John McCombs.I did not
- particularly like the user interface of snews, so I wrote my
- owncombined newsreader and mailer. It is written in C++, and
- uses my own SAA compliant text mode user interface toolkit.If
- there are any other people out there who use DOS to access the
- news, and they would like to try my news program, the latest
- version is available for public ftp from
- :ftp.demon.co.uk:/pub/trumphurst/cppnws16.zipLater versions
- (with different numbers) will also be made available inthat
- directory as they are released.At present, the documentation is
- contained solely in the on-line help file. Also, cppnews
- requires the unbatch, expire, addgroup and rmgroup programs from
- the snews distribution.---Nikki Locke |
- | nikki@trmphrst.demon.co.ukTrumphurst Ltd.
- | Tel: +44 (0)691-670318 | nikki@cix.compulink.co.ukPC and Unix
- consultancy | Fax: +44 (0)691-670316 |
- nikki@kewill.co.uktrmphrst.demon.co.uk is NOT affiliated with
- ANY other sites at demon.co.uk.Demon.co.uk is a dial-up
- subscription access point to the Internet.--Ayman I. Kayssi
- | ayman@eecs.umich.eduEECS
- Department
- +------------------------University of Michigan
- | (313)
- 764-8033------------------------------Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992
- 19:59:26 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!scd.hp.com!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!news1.boi.hp.com!jhays@
- network.UCSD.EDUSubject: SETI info requestTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <MACRAKIS.92Oct13133518@lakatos.osf.org> macrakis@osf.org
- (Stavros Macrakis) writes:>In article
- <1992Oct12.223750.3820@wam.umd.edu> sra@nxstep.com (Rich
- Andrews) writes:>> Well, NASA has finally started SETI on a
- large scale. Have any lists or> ftp sites begun carrying any
- of the discussions?>>I understand that there are some political
- problems in setting up>appropriate net domains. Although the
- NIC suggested .xt>(extra-terrestrial), this is likely to be
- rejected by some user sites,>who'd rather see the existing
- domains become subdomains of more>universal names.>>On the other
- hand, IP has been extended to work over>very-large-latency
- connections. Testing is ongoing, but slow.
- The>alpha-centauri.xt domain has not yet received its copy of
- the protocol>suites.>> -s>Several shuttle missions and the MIR
- space station have had 'packet radio' onboard,I don't think any
- of them have run IP (maybe some of the OSCAR Satellites?) yet
- ---however, I don't think the domain has been resolved, though
- any amateur operationis probably on net 44 (amprnet --- Amateur
- Packet Radio Net) and domain ampr.org.KA9Q's implementation
- handles fairly-large-latency connections now.John
- (kd7uw@kd7uw.ampr.org)-- John D. Hays [KD7UW] |Email:
- [UUCP] ...!hplabs!hpdmd48!jhaysFirmware Engineer
- | [INTERNET] jhays@boi.hp.comBoise
- Printer Division | [GEnie]
- HAYSBoise, Idaho | [Compu$erve]
- 72725,424------------------------------Date: 13 Oct
- 1992 09:53:17 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: TAPR
- Deviation Meter Planned ???To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn
- Packet-Radio Digest V92 #278, Bob Segrist, KD4PWU asked about
- the status of the TAPR Deviation Meter.This project is still in
- work, but has been out-prioritied by some upgrades to the TAPR
- 9600 bps modem and Metcon-1. There have also been a few
- problems with the pll/synthesizer, so the completion has not
- been as uneventful as we would have wished. At this time, I
- unfortunately cannot project a date that the kit would be
- available. Soon, I hope. The price projection is unchanged,
- but when the design is complete, we will be able to definitize
- things. When we get there, we will let everyone know (PSR,
- CompuServe, Internet, ham magazines, etc.)I wish there was more
- to report, but hang in
- there.Bob++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
- ++ Bob Nielsen W6SWE Internet: rnielsen@tapr.ampr.org ++
- ax.25: w6swe@wb7tpy.az.usa.na ++ Tucson,
- Arizona amateur IP: 44.124.12.16 ++
- CIS: 71540,2364
- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
- -----------------------Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:49:51 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!think.com!rpi!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!psinntp!psinn
- tp!isc-newsserver!bad1679@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: tcp/ip
- configurationTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduHi all, I currently have
- my Amiga 500 configured as a host on our local PacketRadio
- Tcp/ip network. Next quarter, a friend of mine also with an
- Amiga500 will be moving in next door. Since I have two working
- serial ports,I would like to have one line running slip to my
- neighbours Amiga500for remote file access and the other line
- connected to the tnc and twometer radio.My friend is not
- licensed as an Amateur Radio Operator so I am a littlebit
- worried about keeping isolating his host from other ip users
- onour packet network. How can I configure my host to prohibit
- gatewayingacross my machine? __________________ slip
- ______________ _____ _________ | friend.ampr.org
- |--------|nu1s.ampr.org|----|tnc|--|vhf rig|
- ------------------- -------------- --- -------
- Thanks for any pointers..Bernie nu1s@nu1s.ampr.org
- [44.69.0.37]-- Electrical Engineering, Rochester Institute of
- Technology, Rochester,NYAx25 Packet: NU1S @
- WB2PSI.#WNY.NY.USA.NOAM (normal packet route) Internet
- (school):
- bad1679@ultb.isc.rit.edu------------------------------Date: Wed,
- 14 Oct 1992 04:32:29 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!bt
- bg1194@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Trouble with Baycom modemTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1992Oct11.020209.4176@athena.mit.edu> brit@athena.MIT.EDU
- (Christopher B Gould) writes:>I just finished putting together a
- Baycom-type modem on a breadboard>using a TCM3105. I hooked it
- up to a 386 and an Icom IC-228H but>I'm only getting about 3.6V
- to power the modem, I'm not sure if the>serial port is actually
- being controlled by the Baycom program at all.>I tried switching
- the program between COM1 and COM2 but nothing changes.>I have
- been able to connect to myself though, if that means
- anything,>but it won't transmit or receive anything to or from
- anyone else.>Voltages on the serial port pins seem to never
- change.>>Has anyone had any problems like this one or could
- anyone help me out>with this?>>By the way, it's Baycom 1.4, and
- also I made sure there was no mouse>driver or anything of the
- sort running at the same time.>>Thanks in
- advance,>Brit>>KB4ZBP/KT>brit@athena.mit.eduBrit, I also tried
- to use the Baycom software with a TCM3105 modem onmy Goldstar
- 386sx machine, and couldn't get it to work... I don't thinkthat
- it was talking to the serial hardware on my clone correctly.
- There is a disclaimer file with the Baycom software which
- explains inweakly translated english that there are a number of
- serial port hardwareconfigurations that will not work with
- Baycom. the Baycom sources arealso not available, so I gave up
- on Baycom. My Ramsey packet modem kit(am I going to say
- something good about Ramsey? :-) came with an alternatewiring
- scheme for the Poor Man's Packet software which uses the
- parallelport instead. This is what I am using. The PMP wiring
- basically skipsthe CMOS RS232 level converter chip (74HC04?) and
- runs the parallel portTTL level lines almost directly into the
- TCM3105 chip. I can send youthe schematic if you want it, or
- you can look up the original PMParticles.73 de KB8CNE @
- N9LNQ.IL, Brad Bankob-banko@uiuc.edu-- Brad Banko; Dept of
- Physics; U of Illinois;
- b-banko@uiuc.edu=================================================
- ========================Tatiana Gutsu for President!
- 73 de kb8cne @
- n9lnq.il------------------------------Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992
- 19:42:19 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!linac!uchinews!machine!chinet!meg
- abyte@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Wanted: Used TNCTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduI am looking to buy a used TNC for VHF
- packet. Something like the PK-88would be fine. Internal IBM PC
- type TNC's are no good to me as I have anAmiga computer.If you
- have a used TNC for sale, please contact me via email. I want
- tospend under $100.00-- "It is a pitty that even a single drop
- of this noble gift of God should be spilled" - J.S. Bach on
- wineMark E. Sunderlin: Technocrat in Winchester, Virginia
- KD4HRI aka Dr. Megabyte: megabyte@chinet.chi.il.us (703)
- 722-9330------------------------------Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992
- 03:13:29 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!sugar!jreese@netw
- ork.UCSD.EDUTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences
- <BvxH9H.Crn@zero.com>, <Bw0xK6.2CI@iat.holonet.net>,
- <Bw17KL.1qM@mail.boi.hp.com>Subject : Re: ARRL RPTR Directory
- Stinks : -( (?)In article <Bw17KL.1qM@mail.boi.hp.com>
- jhays@boi.hp.com (John_D. Hays) writes:>In article
- <Bw0xK6.2CI@iat.holonet.net> bwilkins@iat.holonet.net (Bob
- Wilkins n6fri) writes:>On another note, we need to adopt a
- "highest and best use" philosophy>on co-ordination --- i.e. a
- public service club with large membership should>get precedance
- for a repeater pair, before 2 people who want a private>repeater
- to yak 10 minutes a day on the way to work whent hey could
- easily>operate simplex, or use a shared repeater.>>John
- KD7UWAAAAAAKKKKK... Wrong answer. Thank you for playing.What
- about the "private" repeater group with several hundred
- members?Is this really fair to those several hundred as opposed
- to the "club"with several hundred members who run a "public"
- repeater?I think not.WD5IYT-- Jim Reese, WD5IYT
- | "you can predict what happens until the
- jreese@sugar.neosoft.com | signal leaves the
- antenna..."------------------------------End of Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #279******************************Date: Thu, 15 Oct
- 92 04:30:04 PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #280To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Thu,
- 15 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 2Today's Topics:
- ARRL Computer Networking Conference UPDATE 14 OCT 92
- ARRL Information Service (info@arrl.org) ARRL
- RPTR Directory Stinks :-( (?) Ham
- TCP/IP address Kantronics KPC-1?
- moderator please read this No
- more BayCom modem trouble PktWin V1.0 TNC controller for
- Windows released. (2 msgs) tcp/ip
- configuration TestSend Replies
- or notes for publication to: <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send
- subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:44:17 GMTFrom:
- usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!linac!
- att!cbnewsi!cbnewsh!n2dsy@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: ARRL Computer
- Networking Conference UPDATE 14 OCT 92To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduPLEASE POST EVERYWHERE !!!!!!! Reposted
- with corrected directions &
- additional details.The Radio Amateur Telecommunications Society
- (RATS) is proud to host the 11th ARRL Amateur Radio
- Computer Networking Conference to be held on Saturday,
- the 7th of November 1992 at Fairleigh Dickinson
- University, Teaneck, New Jersey.The conference will feature both
- advanced and beginner's talks bymany of the leading contributors
- to the Amateur Radio digital community.The Conference schedule
- of events for November 7th includes the mainConference
- presentations, beginner's sessions and demonstrationsstarting at
- 8:30 AM and continuing until 5 PM. A hero lunch will beprovided
- by CQ Magazine. Admission to the Conference is $30.00
- andincludes admission to these other interesting events:Friday,
- 6 NovemberThe ARRL Education Department is sponsoring a Digital
- Signal Processing (DSP) Course from 9 AM until 5 PM at the
- Conference hotel (see below).This exciting course will be given
- by Jon Bloom, KE3Z ARRL SeniorEngineer. Contact Rosalie White
- at the ARRL Education Department(+1.203.666.1541) for
- details.Conference registration begins at 5 PM at the Best
- Western OritaniMotor Inn, Hackensack, New Jersey. The hotel is
- across New JerseyRoute 4 from the University. Call in advance
- for reservations at theConference rate of $55.00 per night. The
- hotel telephone number is+1.201.488.8900.Friday evening will
- feature "Birds of a Feather" (BOF) sessions anddemonstrations.
- To be sure there will be BOFs for the HF Forwarding,TCP/IP,
- ROSE, and TheNet folks, as well as for other communities
- ofinterest. Contact Gordon Beattie, N2DSY (+1.201.387.8896) if
- youwould like to organize a BOF or need information. There will
- freerefreshments and munchies for those attending the
- conference.Saturday, 7 NovemberWhile the Conference activity
- proceeds at Fairleigh DickinsonUniversity, your spouse, children
- and/or companion might wish toenjoy the shopping available at
- some the many shopping malls thathave made Paramus, New Jersey
- famous as a "shopping mecca". TheRiverside Square Mall is next
- door to the hotel (a few hundred feet)and most of the rest are
- within a mile or two of the hotel andUniversity and are easily
- reached by car, bus or taxi.After a day of Conference activity
- we will all return to the hotelfor a pizza party. Note: This is
- now a sponsored event and will beFREE for conference attendees.
- During the evening, several commercial Amateur Radio
- manufacturersincluding Pac-Comm Packet Radio Systems,
- Kantronics, HAL Communications,and others will present their
- products and answer questions. A special feature of the evening
- is that many of these manufacturers' products will be available
- for sale. KJI Electronics (+1.201.239.4389) and Pac-Comm
- (+1.813.874.2980) will have digital controllers, radios,antennas
- and accessories available for sale during the evening. If you
- wish to purchase an item of particular interest, call them
- inadvance of the event to make arrangements for pickup at the
- Conference.Other manufacturers of Amateur digital controllers
- will be announced as confirmations arrive.The evening will
- continue with more BOFs until we all decide to getsome
- sleep!Sunday, 8 NovemberThe schedule is open to allow those who
- need to complete conversationsbegun earlier to come to a
- fruitful conclusion. The Coach House Dineris located across New
- Jersey Rou
-
- te 4 from the hotel and is open 24 hoursa day. Many of us will
- be there around 8 AM for breakfast.Air DirectionsThe Conference
- can be reached by commercial air to any of the
- followingairports: Newark (NJ), LaGuardia (NY), Westchester
- County (NY) orKennedy (NY). Newark and LaGuardia are within a
- $45 cab ride fromthe conference. Kennedy is a bit more.
- Definitely rent a car with areservation if you plan on going to
- Westchester. (Note: It has beennoted by some callers that
- Westchester is quite a savings onairfare.) General aviation
- aircraft can fly into Teterboro Airport or one ofthe other local
- fields.Ground Directions------------------------------Date: 13
- Oct 92 11:57:22 EDTFrom:
- usc!rpi!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!psinntp!psinntp!arrl.org@netwo
- rk.UCSD.EDUSubject: ARRL Information Service (info@arrl.org)To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduWe're trying out a new service. We've made
- available a number oftext files containing information about
- various facets of AmateurRadio. You can retrieve these files
- selectively by sending anemail message to ARRL HQ. Each file
- you request is then mailed toyou automatically, usually within a
- few hours.Here are copies of the current "help" and "index"
- responses ofthe info mail server. They should get you started.
- Enjoy!===========================================================
- ==========INFO is a service of ARRL HQ. To use it, mail
- messages to: info@arrl.orgEach line of the message should
- contain a command as shown below.You may place as many commands
- in a message as you want. Each fileyou request will be sent to
- you in a separate message. Only ASCIItext files are supported
- at present.Valid INFO commands:help Sends this help
- fileindex Sends an index of the files available from
- INFOsend file Sends the specified filequit
- Terminates the transaction (use this is you have
- a signature or other text at the end of the message.)73 de ARRL
- HQ===============================================================
- ======Files available from INFO:FILENAME
- DESCRIPTION---------------- --------------------bioeffects
- Information about RF safetyemail List of HQ Email
- addressesemi-gen How to solve an EMI/RFI
- problememi-catvi Info about cable TVIemi-source
- Where to buy filters, EMI-proof telephones, etc.fcc-comm
- How to obtain an FCC commercial licenseham-plates How to
- get a ham-radio license plate by statehbk-fcounter Where to
- get parts for ARRL Handbook frequency counterkits
- List of companies that sell kitsmanuals Sources for
- equipment manuals, schematicsparts-source List of companies
- that sell electronic partspc-boards Where to get
- prototype PC boards and suppliesproduct-review Bibliography of
- QST Product Reviews - 45Kprospect How to get your
- Amateur Radio licenseqsl-in Instructions for incoming
- QSL bureauqsl-out Instructions dor outgoing QSL
- bureausstv-info Info about slow-scan televisiontis-list
- List of paper files available from ARRL TIStopo-maps
- Where to buy topographical mapsusa-counties List of USA
- counties - for county hunterswire-current Current rating of
- wire by AWG sizeyell-sheets Address of Ham Trader Yellow
- Sheets*** EOF ***-------Jon Bloom, KE3Z |
- jbloom@arrl.orgAmerican Radio Relay League | Justice is
- being allowed to do whatever225 Main St. | I
- like. Injustice is whatever preventsNewington, CT 06111
- | my doing so. -- Samuel
- Johnson------------------------------Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992
- 16:19:27 GMTFrom:
- pacbell.com!att-out!cbnewsj!kb2glo@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: ARRL
- RPTR Directory Stinks :-( (?)To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduWell I
- think the same as some others that the directory is goodfor
- finding a local repeater and then getting more local infofrom
- the hams you contact on that repeater. It sure makes senseto me
- and that is what I've done when I've travelled.In regard to
- packet maybe they should only list nodes and switchesand give up
- trying to keep track of PBBS. If you can connect toa node or
- switch it will list what BBS you can conect to.Plus the effort
- to setup a node is typically a little more effortthan a PBBS and
- thus are more stable....73, Tom-- Tom Kenny, KB2GLOUUCP:
- ...!att!mtuxo!tek Internet:
- tek%mtuxo@att.att.comPacket Radio: KB2GLO@KB2GLO.NJ.USA Voice
- Telephone: 908-576-3888------------------------------Date: Wed,
- 14 Oct 1992 12:49:37 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!csc.ti.com!tilde.csc.ti.com!fstop.csc.ti
- .com!fstop.csc.ti.com!sbrown@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Ham TCP/IP
- addressTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduHi,I'm just getting started in
- packet radio and need someone to point mein the right direction
- to get a ham TCP/IP address. The only infoI have thusfar is a
- name and call in "Gateway to Packet Radio." Seems this should
- be an appropriate forum for this question.Thanks,Steve,
- WD5HCYsbrown@charon.dseg.ti.com--
- ******************************************* |
- Steve Brown, WD5HCY | Simplicate | |
- vax1::sbrown | and add | |
- sbrown@charon.dseg.ti.com | lightness. | | (214)
- 575-3597 | | | MSG:SBRN
- | - Bill | | MS 8496, PSK0
- | Stout |
- *******************************************----------------------
- --------Date: 13 Oct 92 17:45:05 GMTFrom:
- cbmvax!snark!beyonet!steve@RUTGERS.EDUSubject: Kantronics
- KPC-1?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <14580038@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com> alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan
- Bloom) writes:[...]>I did some experimenting, and found that the
- KPC-2 occasionally locks >in transmit when power is first turned
- on. Evidently there was a >momentary power failure when I was
- not at home. This has happened to 2 AEA users that I know of.
- There was a power clitch in our area one day and the next thing
- I noticed was a carrier on the freq that I use. The unit was a
- PK-88 and it was stuck in limbo with a nasty two tone squeal. I
- suspect it was something to do with the code beacon part of the
- firmware. If there was a timer in this box then their must have
- been a bug because it was locked for over 8 hours. Lucky it
- wasn't a 50w radio but just an HT that went thru the ordeal with
- just a warm chassis :-). The other guy that I tracked down had a
- AEA PK-232mbx, that was just throwing a carrier. When I got a
- hold of the owner after approx 6 hours he told me his tnc was
- not showing that it was transmitting but the radio was still
- locked in transmit. He believed it was a bad mic plug. Remember
- those mic plugs that have a high resistance inbetween the
- bakalite(sp?) substance after they get used for a while. I
- think that due to bad manufacturing processes that dope it with
- impure materials.>I had always assumed that there WAS a timer in
- the box. All the other>TNC's have them. Why doesn't Kantronics
- include a warning in the manual? Same here, maybe they don't
- work as well as they should in strange situations like power
- glitches... Steve-- |Stephen Urich|
- Internet:steve@zero.com | "Cattle mutilations ||NIC:
- SU2 | UUCP:beyonet!steve@cs.widener.edu | are up!"
- --Sneakers ||ARS: WB3FTP |
- Packet:WB3FTP@WA3NWL.#EPA.PA.USA.NA | ax25<->PBBS<->IPGATE
- ||Bensalem, PA |Radio:wb3ftp@wb3ftp.ampr.org[44.80.8.44]|
- TCP/IP-FTP-SMTP-UNIX |------------------------------Date: 14 Oct
- 1992 07:34:01 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject:
- moderator please read thisTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI have
- accounts on two discreet computer systems here at the college.I
- have inadvertently passed a mail to receive this list on each
- system.The duplication wastes air-time and disk storage. I
- cannot seem todiscover the magic needed to contact the proper
- authority on a feed fromInternet to Bitnet. It used to be
- simple but in this age of networkingI apparently have missed and
- instructional session along the way. This message(I hope) gets
- past the 'ailer 'emon... that has been bouncing my text.Any help
- would be
- appreciated.cellis@brockvma------------------------------Date:
- Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:26:34 GMTFrom:
- agate!stanford.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-picayune.mit.edu!s
- lack.MIT.EDU!brit@ames.arpaSubject: No more BayCom modem
- troubleTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduThanks to all ye who helped me
- out with the BayCom questions I posted!Apparently I got a hold
- of an old copy of the schematics for the TCM3105 modem.There was
- a small error which was corrected about a year or two ago, but
- it seemsthere are still old versions hanging around the net.I
- must say it's very nice when the authors send helping email
- right after I postedthe questions.Congratulations to the BayCom
- team!73, BritKB4ZBP (soon to find a packet mail
- address)brit@athena.mit.edu------------------------------Date:
- 14 Oct 92 13:01:35 GMTFrom:
- pipex!unipalm!uknet!reading!bogart!ssuhouns@uunet.uu.netSubject:
- PktWin V1.0 TNC controller for Windows released.To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edu PktWin Version 1.2 is now
- ready. I have uploaded PktWin to ftp.cica.indiana.edu. It
- is currently in /pub/pc/win3/uploads as PKTWIN01.ZIP.It is an
- Amateur Radio Packet TNC controller program, and isshareware (25
- pounds registration). Paul----73's de Paul
- The smelling pistakes are all my own.Packet:
- G4YFY@GB7BEQEMail:
- ssuhouns@susssys1.rdg.ac.uk------------------------------Date:
- Wed, 14 Oct 92 16:06:52 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sur
- a.net!mojo.eng.umd.edu!chuck@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: PktWin
- V1.0 TNC controller for Windows released.To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <Bw446o.Gz0@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk>
- ssuhouns@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk writes:...> I have uploaded
- PktWin to ftp.cica.indiana.edu. It is >currently in
- /pub/pc/win3/uploads as PKTWIN01.ZIP.>>It is an Amateur Radio
- Packet TNC controller program, and is>shareware (25 pounds
- registration). >Thank you Paul. Now, what does it do? What
- features does it implement?Whose TNC will it work with? What
- modes does it support? What computerdoes it run on? Please
- don't assume that we already know.Enquiring minds want to
- know!73,Chuck Harris -
- WA3UQVchuck@eng.umd.edu------------------------------Date: Wed,
- 14 Oct 1992 21:40:41 GMTFrom:
- usc!sdd.hp.com!scd.hp.com!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!news1.boi.hp.com!jh
- ays@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: tcp/ip configurationTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1992Oct13.014951.22486@ultb.isc.rit.edu> bad1679@ultb.rit.edu
- (bernie doehner nu1s) writes:>>Hi all, >I currently have my
- Amiga 500 configured as a host on our local Packet>Radio Tcp/ip
- network. Next quarter, a friend of mine also with an Amiga>500
- will be moving in next door. Since I have two working serial
- ports,>I would like to have one line running slip to my
- neighbours Amiga500>for remote file access and the other line
- connected to the tnc and two>meter radio.>>My friend is not
- licensed as an Amateur Radio Operator so I am a little>bit
- worried about keeping isolating his host from other ip users
- on>our packet network. How can I configure my host to prohibit
- gatewaying>across my machine?> __________________ slip
- ______________ _____ _________> | friend.ampr.org
- |--------|nu1s.ampr.org|----|tnc|--|vhf rig|>
- ------------------- -------------- --- -------
- >>Thanks for any pointers..>>Bernie nu1s@nu1s.ampr.org
- [44.69.0.37]>-- >Electrical Engineering, Rochester Institute of
- Technology, Rochester,NY>Ax25 Packet: NU1S @
- WB2PSI.#WNY.NY.USA.NOAM (normal packet route) >Internet
- (school): bad1679@ultb.isc.rit.eduDoes the Amiga version include
- the "ip access" command?John-- John D. Hays [KD7UW]
- |Email: [UUCP] ...!hplabs!hpdmd48!jhaysFirmware
- Engineer | [INTERNET]
- jhays@boi.hp.comBoise Printer Division | [GEnie]
- HAYSBoise, Idaho |
- [Compu$erve]
- 72725,424------------------------------Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92
- 12:00:51 ESTFrom: vnet.ibm.com@uunet.uu.netSubject: TestTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edurec.radio.amateur.packet--------------------
- ----------Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:46:59 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!orchard.la.locus.com!devnet.la.locus.c
- om!dana@network.UCSD.EDUTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences
- <81482@ut-emx.uucp>, <14580038@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>,
- <1992Oct13.024626.17587@cbfsb.cb.att.com>Subject : Re:
- Kantronics KPC-1?In article
- <1992Oct13.024626.17587@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
- wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey) writes:>In article
- <14580038@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com> alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan
- Bloom) writes:>>I did. My !@#$%^&! KPC-2 locked up in transmit
- -- it was over a day >>before I noticed. Fortunately the power
- supply failed first and acted>>as an (expensive) fuse for the
- radio. >>>>I did some experimenting, and found that the KPC-2
- occasionally locks >>in transmit when power is first turned on.
- Evidently there was a >>momentary power failure when I was not
- at home.>>My KPC2 _once_ got stuck in transmit mode for a day or
- so. In my case, the>radio took it OK, and so did the power
- supply. This probably wiped out>activity on the freq in my
- area. But I only run 8 watts (about half gets>out of the 50
- feet of RG58). Haven't had it happen again for a couple
- >years.There is a lot of activity on 145.01 in our area,
- including a very popularhigh level digipeater located near Big
- Bear Lake (AA6TN-1, BGBEAR). Well,a while back BGBEAR stopped
- working. Terry Neal, AA6TN, drove from CostaMesa to to Big Bear
- to figure out why his digi was broken. He discoveredthat his
- digipeater was working fine, but that a station in Big Bear
- hadwedged in transmit mode and the station operator was out of
- town. It tooka couple more days to get the wedged station back
- into legal operation. Thisstation was running moderate power in
- a location sheltered from most otherstations but full quieting
- into a high level digipeater; the interferencecaused was severe.
- Of course, it turns out the station was using a KPC-2.Without
- personally insulting anyone, I personally feel it is
- irresponsibleto operate an unattended station without the use of
- a watchdog timer. Iwould highly suggest that owners of KPC-2s
- invest the effort to build aan external watchdog timer, or call
- up Kantronics and ask for one.-- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ |
- Views expressed here are * * (310) 337-5136 | mine and do not
- necessarily * * dana@locus.com DoD #466 | reflect those of my
- employer * * "Dammit Bones, spare me the lecture and give me the
- shot!" *------------------------------Date: (null)From:
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- hotel address is: Best Western Oritani 414
- Hackensack Ave. Hackensack, NJ 07601
- Tel: +1.201.488.8900For hotel reservations please
- contact the hotel.For Conference information call: Gordon
- Beattie, N2DSY +1.201.387.8896
- (Eve) +1.908.957.6345 (Day)73 &
- See you there!------------------------------Date: (null)From:
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- (null)------------------------------End of Packet-Radio Digest
- V92 #280******************************Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92
- 04:30:03 PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #281To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Fri,
- 16 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 2Today's Topics:
- (none) CNC this
- year ? Digicom 64 Manuals (HELP)
- Info Wanted On NOS for Data Engine (2 msgs)
- Kantronics KPC-1? PK232 programs (2
- msgs) PktWin V1.0 TNC controller for Windows (2 msgs)
- PktWin V1.0 TNC controller for Windows released.
- TNC-2 FirmwareSend Replies or notes for
- publication to: <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription
- requests to: <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't
- solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: 15 Oct 1992 10:53:22 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: (none)To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edui got the
- message------------------------------Date: 14 Oct 92 12:31:45
- EDTFrom:
- swrinde!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!agate!iat.holonet.net!psinntp!
- psinntp!arrl.org@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: CNC this year ?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn rec.radio.amateur.packet,
- agodwin@acorn.co.uk (Adrian Godwin) writes:>>Can someone tell me
- when the ARRL Computer Networking Conference is to>be held, this
- year ? And when the minutes are published ?>I shan't get to the
- conference, but I'd like to know when I can order a>copy of the
- minutes.The conference is November 7 at Fairleigh Dickinson
- University inRutherford, NJ. The Proceedings are always
- available at theconference and are in stock at ARRL immediately
- after the conference.-------Jon Bloom, KE3Z |
- jbloom@arrl.orgAmerican Radio Relay League | Justice is
- being allowed to do whatever225 Main St. | I
- like. Injustice is whatever preventsNewington, CT 06111
- | my doing so. -- Samuel
- Johnson------------------------------Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92
- 14:39:44 ESTFrom: vnet.ibm.com@uunet.uu.netSubject: Digicom 64
- Manuals (HELP)To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduDigicom 64 is a TNC-2
- emulator and terminal program for the Commodore64.I got DIGICOM
- version 3.51 including the mini-editor, with no usermanualsI
- will appreciate very much, if somebody can e-mail to me
- theappropiated documentation or any hint on how to get it.73 de
- Hugo (OA4HV)hugo@vnet.ibm.com------------------------------Date:
- Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:36:55 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!utcsri!skule.ecf!torn!cunew
- s!news@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Info Wanted On NOS for Data
- EngineTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduDoes anyone have information on
- the rumored port of NOS to the KantronicsData Engine? When
- might it be available? Will it support a WA4DSY modemon one of
- its ports & a 38.4k baud SLIP connection on its other port?What
- about a console interface?
- Price?--dy------------------------------Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992
- 23:57:28 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!zazen!doug.cae.wisc.edu
- !umn.edu!news.orst.edu!hobo.ECE.ORST.EDU!johan@network.UCSD.EDUSu
- bject: Info Wanted On NOS for Data EngineTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1992Oct15.193655.11684@cunews.carleton.ca> dy@hydra.carleton.ca
- (H. Douglas R. Yuill, ve3ocu) writes:>Does anyone have
- information on the rumored port of NOS to the KantronicsI am the
- author of the port of NOS to the DE, called JNOS40. It isa
- stand-alone version of NOS, targeted at switches. A lot of the
- featuresthat are found in the pc version of nos i produce
- (called jnos) are in it...>Data Engine? When might it be
- available? The code is currently in beta testing. Current beta
- is 0.97, dated 8/30/920.98 will be going to the betatesters next
- week,and i suspect the public release not too long after that,
- if thingsturn out well.>Will it support a WA4DSY modem>on one of
- its ports & a 38.4k baud SLIP connection on its other port?I am
- not sure what kind of interface the WA4DSY 56k modem has, but
- ifit is a type A,B or C modem (in Kantronics terms), it will
- work.I recall vaguely that the DSY stuff does it's own clocking,
- so that shouldwork fine (with some interfacing offcourse)I've
- tested stuff up to 19200 halfduplex using the DE9k6/19k2 with
- D4-10's,and fullduplex loopback up to 56k.Serial port is a bit
- different story; due to a hardware design of the DE9k6,there is
- a performance hit that causes characters to be misses at speeds>
- 9600. This might not be the case using other modems...>What
- about a console interface? Price?Currently, it is meant to be
- standalone. Ie, no 'terminal' connections (yet)There is a
- console mode, that allows you to execute any of the
- availablecommand, and see trace output from the 2 internal
- ports, but NO outgoingconnections are supported.This is however
- planned for future releases...Once everything is ready for the
- public release, the binaries will beplaced in the public domain,
- so it's free !I am working on quite extensive documentation on
- configuring things etc,and that will all go with the released
- stuff.Hope this informs a bit; keep an eye on this group for
- release info...73Johan, WG7J------------------------------Date:
- Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:18:52 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!scd.hp.com!hplextra!hpl-opus!hpnmdla!alanb@network.UCS
- D.EDUSubject: Kantronics KPC-1?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn
- rec.radio.amateur.packet, dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers)
- writes:>>In article <14580038@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>
- alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:>>>My !@#$%^&! KPC-2
- locked up in transmit -- it was over a day >>>before I noticed.
- Fortunately the power supply failed first and acted>>>as an
- (expensive) fuse for the radio. >Without personally insulting
- anyone, I personally feel it is irresponsible>to operate an
- unattended station without the use of a watchdog timer. I>would
- highly suggest that owners of KPC-2s invest the effort to build
- a>an external watchdog timer, or call up Kantronics and ask for
- one.You (or the other poster) edited out the part of my posting
- where I chastised Kantronics for not putting something in the
- manual about thelack of a timeout timer. Since nearly all other
- TNC's have such a timer,I assumed the KPC-2 did too. AL
- N1AL------------------------------Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992
- 14:43:09 GMTFrom:
- usc!rpi!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!psinntp!psinntp!merlin.hgc.edu
- !jens4813@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: PK232 programsTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduDoes anyone have any suggestions on what is
- available for programsthat are freeware or shareware to control
- the PK232? I also need the unarchiving utility if you suggest
- something on a ftp siteon the internet. I used archie and found
- PK232.ARC and PK232COM.ARCbut I didnt look any farther with
- archie. Are these programs any good?What is the unarchiving
- program I should use to unarc these? Thanksfor any
- replies.------------------------------Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992
- 16:14:57 GMTFrom:
- usc!sdd.hp.com!caen!destroyer!news.iastate.edu!vlsi2!jvp@network.
- UCSD.EDUSubject: PK232 programsTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn
- <1992Oct14.144309.10170@merlin.hgc.edu> jens4813@hgc.edu (Kevin
- Jensen) writes:>Does anyone have any suggestions on what is
- available for programs>that are freeware or shareware to control
- the PK232? I also need >the unarchiving utility if you suggest
- something on a ftp site>on the internet. I used archie and found
- PK232.ARC and PK232COM.ARC>but I didnt look any farther with
- archie. Are these programs any good?>What is the unarchiving
- program I should use to unarc these? Thanks>for any replies.For
- what computer?-Jim------------------------------Date: 15 Oct 92
- 12:23:48 GMTFrom:
- mcsun!uknet!reading!bogart!ssuhouns@uunet.uu.netSubject: PktWin
- V1.0 TNC controller for WindowsTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn
- article 3714@eng.umd.edu, chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris -
- WA3UQV) writes:>In article <Bw446o.Gz0@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk>
- ssuhouns@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk writes:>....>> I have
- uploaded PktWin to ftp.cica.indiana.edu. It is >>currently in
- /pub/pc/win3/uploads as PKTWIN01.ZIP.>>>>It is an Amateur Radio
- Packet TNC controller program, and is>>shareware (25 pounds
- registration). >>>Thank you Paul. Now, what does it do? What
- features does it implement?>Whose TNC will it work with? What
- modes does it support? What computer>does it run on? Please
- don't assume that we already know.>>Enquiring minds want to
- know!>Weeelllllllllllll.It is TNC controller program for Windows
- 3.1 (IBM PC).It is quite basic, so it should support most TNC's,
- I have tried itwith PK-88 and Tiny-2 type TNC's, doesn't use
- KISS mode or any other fancy'host' mode controller protocols. I
- does support text transfer, YAPP willbe coming (I hope ;-) in a
- future version, I have the source (in Pascal :-(but am a bit
- busy just at the moment. It supports normal windows stuff,
- suchas cut and paste with the clipboard. There are two text
- buffers, one forreceive and one for transmit, either can be from
- 1k to 1024K bytes (tho.pointless for TX ;-) and lots more
- ;-)Paul----73's de Paul The smelling
- pistakes are all my own.Packet: G4YFY@GB7BEQ I
- have no employer (I retired ;-).EMail:
- ssuhouns@susssys1.rdg.ac.uk 1990 16 valve K100LT DoD
- #0573------------------------------Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992
- 15:48:44 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!scd.hp.com!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!news1.boi.hp.com!jhays@
- network.UCSD.EDUSubject: PktWin V1.0 TNC controller for
- WindowsTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIt's a basic terminal program
- with seperate input and output windows, cut and pasteand a few
- "Windows" features. It's a clean peice of work from what I can
- see, howeverI will not be using it (so no shareware fee) as most
- of my use for a TNC is inKISS mode running TCP/IP --- It would
- be nice if it had a menu system for common commandsa translate
- table for TNC specific syntax.If you would like a Windows based
- terminal, with a few nice features for Amateuruse like "split"
- xmit and rcv --- get it and send a few $$$ to the author so
- thathe will be motivated to improve it.John-- John D. Hays
- [KD7UW] |Email: [UUCP]
- ...!hplabs!hpdmd48!jhaysFirmware Engineer |
- [INTERNET] jhays@boi.hp.comBoise Printer Division
- | [GEnie] HAYSBoise,
- Idaho | [Compu$erve]
- 72725,424------------------------------Date: 15 Oct 92 14:55:20
- GMTFrom:
- swrinde!gatech!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.@!hp4at!mcsun!
- uknet!mucs!nessie!goshawk!john@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: PktWin
- V1.0 TNC controller for Windows released.To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1992Oct14.160652.3714@eng.umd.edu>, chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck
- Harris - WA3UQV) writes:|> In article
- <Bw446o.Gz0@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk>
- ssuhouns@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk writes:|> ...|> > I have
- uploaded PktWin to ftp.cica.indiana.edu. It is |> >currently in
- /pub/pc/win3/uploads as PKTWIN01.ZIP.|> >|> >It is an Amateur
- Radio Packet TNC controller program, and is|> >shareware (25
- pounds registration). |> >|> Thank you Paul. Now, what does it
- do? What features does it implement?|> Whose TNC will it work
- with? What modes does it support? What computer|> does it run
- on? Please don't assume that we already know.|> |> Enquiring
- minds want to know!|> |> 73,|> |> Chuck Harris - WA3UQV|>
- chuck@eng.umd.eduEven I could work out the it must run on an IBM
- PC of sorts, underWindows 3.0 (at least) and that it is probably
- a packet terminal program.And I haven't even seen it yet. SOME
- PEOPLE DO ASK DAFT QUESTIONS.------------------------------Date:
- Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:07:12 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!gatech!destroyer!cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualbert
- a.ca!ersys!crs-sys!ve6bc!doug@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: TNC-2
- FirmwareTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduCan someone tell me what the
- latest, greatest version of firmware for theTNC-2 (ie MFJ-127x)
- is?tnx & 73-- / __/ ____. . _,(_/_(_)
- (_/_(_)_------------------------------Date: 16 Oct 92 03:11:31
- GMTFrom:
- swrinde!gatech!emory!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.UCSD.EDUTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences <81482@ut-emx.uucp>,
- <14580038@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>, <Bw2MnA.2Hx@zero.com>Reply-To :
- gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)Subject : Re: Kantronics KPC-1?In
- article <Bw2MnA.2Hx@zero.com> steve@zero.com (Steve Urich)
- writes:>In article <14580038@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>
- alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:>>I had always
- assumed that there WAS a timer in the box. All the other>>TNC's
- have them. Why doesn't Kantronics include a warning in the
- manual?>> Same here, maybe they don't work as well as they
- should in strange> situations like power glitches...I've jumped
- all over Kantronics case about this. While the TNC2 uses
- ahardware timeout, a non-retriggerable one shot in series with
- the PTT line, Kantronics does it in software. So when the
- program goes astray due to a glitch, it can lock in transmit
- forever. Stupid design that saves 10 centsand costs a $400
- radio.Of course the one shot could fail, but I haven't heard of
- a case of thatwhile I have heard of many cases of Kantronics
- brilliant firmware goingga-ga. I prefer a TNC2 with K3MC's KISS
- only firmware. Never had a lockup or failure to function. Now we
- could talk about the stupid opamp fora RS-232 driver, but that's
- another story.Gary KE4ZV------------------------------End of
- Packet-Radio Digest V92 #281******************************Date:
- Sat, 17 Oct 92 04:30:03 PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and
- Newsgroup <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #282To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Sat,
- 17 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 282Today's Topics:
- Commercial Ham Software?
- NET/Mac(2.3.9) questions rsgb gb2rs news
- 18th october TAPR packetRADIO project in 8th
- CNCSend Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: 16 Oct 1992 06:34:21 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Commercial Ham Software?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduDoes anyone have a list of all commercial
- Ham software?If you have either one or 20 or all of the people
- that have software, please send me a message with the
- info!-Nick KA1NIPEmail Address:
- nick@ccsi.com------------------------------Date: 16 Oct 1992
- 13:25:31 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject:
- NET/Mac(2.3.9) questionsTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduHas anyone ever
- been able to really figure out what causes the backoff timerto
- kick in during an ftp session?The reason I ask this question is
- that during an extensive series of ftpsessions across several
- local lans I discovered some interesting anomolties.Currently
- have tcp settings of:tcp mss 216tcp window 432tcp irtt
- 5000hopefully to reduce the overhead of oustanding packets,
- etc>After establishing a couple of ftp sessions with a single
- station which isalso a Mac. I started the xfer process and
- everything seemed to be going OK.File sizes were 169K and and
- 91K using type i and macbinary enabled. Theywere StuffIt
- archives.After while I did a check of the status with the "t e
- #" command and not toomuch of either file was xfered. I left the
- station go at it overnight and thenext morning the files were
- only about half done! Came back after work (9hours later) and
- the files were about 3/4 complete. I decided to look at the
- activity on frequency with the trace ax0 111 commandand it
- didn't look too bad. So I decided to kick the sessions for
- awhile andthings got moving again. I came back in about 2 hours
- and both files werefinished!So I guess I have to ask this
- question..... does having the trace mode on inan active window
- have anything with the operation? The channel activityseemed to
- be about the same during the period. Sure is suspicious?Another
- thing I don't understand ise routing statements. I put a couple
- ofstatements in to bypass our local switch and go to another
- station who has avery good path to another Mac station. I placed
- in my autoexec.net thefollowing lines to cover thisroute add
- [44.56.a.a] ax0 #for the station who I need to go to access this
- other stationroute add [44.56.b.b] ax0 [44.56.a.a]#this line to
- cover the routing to the station I want to talk toIf I ping
- station "b" it goes to the switch! If I ping station "a",
- itbypasses the switch and goes to him directly!Now if I add
- these lines in manually from the console window,
- substitutingtheir ax.25 calls instead off their IP addresses...
- it works the way I wouldexpect. What did I do wrong?Any help
- here would be greatly appreciated.73 for now.... c u on the
- shortwavesTerry - KA8SCP/1, America Online Ham Radio Club
- HostInternet: tstader@aol.com (files <28K) _or_
- tstader@attmail.com (files >28K)KA8SCP@WA1PHY.#EMA.MA.USA.NOAM
- _or_ ka8scp@ka8scp.ampr.org
- [44.56.4.82]------------------------------Date: 17 Oct 92
- 00:07:41 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!paladin.america
- n.edu!news.univie.ac.@!hp4at!mcsun!uknet!pavo.csi.cam.ac.uk!pipex
- !demon!tedb.demon.co.uk!ted@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: rsgb gb2rs
- news 18th octoberTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduGood morning. It's
- Sunday the 18th of October and here is the GB2RS newsbroadcast,
- prepared by the Radio Society of Great Britain.And we start this
- week by wishing a special good morning to all the scouts
- andguides taking part in Jamboree On The Air.The
- Radiocommunications Agency has recently announced its continuing
- supportfor Project YEAR - Youth into Electronics via Amateur
- Radio - with a furthertwo years of sponsorship of the Young
- Amateur of the Year Award. Theannouncement was made by senior RA
- official Steven Spivey at this year's YoungAmateur of the Year
- presentation at the RSGB HF Convention. A full report onthe
- ceremony appears in the November edition of Radio Communication
- which isdue to be posted to all RSGB members this
- week.Enterprises By The Blind is looking for volunteers to read
- parts of RadComonto cassette tape. Anyone interested is asked to
- contact Mr Gerrard, G3LAZ,on 0582 27588.Now some items of HF DX
- news from the weekly RSGB DX News Sheet which isedited by
- Brendan McCartney, G4DYO: From Minami Torishima, JK1ABP will
- beactive from now until January 1993 on all Bands using SSB, CW
- and Packet.JK1ABP will sign JA9IPX/JD1 on the normal HF bands
- but JK1ABP/JD1 on the WARCbands. From Galapagos Islands, N6KT
- will sign HC8A from now until Sunday the25th of October. From
- the US Virgin Islands, CT1BOH will be active from today,Sunday
- the 18th until Saturday the 31st October as KP2/CT1BOH. During
- nextweekend's CQ World-wide SSB contest he will sign KP2A. From
- Canada, AH9B willbe active as AH9B/VO2 from Western Labrador in
- CQ Zone 2 from Tuesday the 20thto Monday the 26th of October,
- mainly on 80 and 40 metres CW and SSB. Duringthe CQ WW SSB
- contest he will be active on all bands. From Fernando deNoronha,
- PP1CZ will be active as PY0F/PP1CZ from this weekend until
- Saturdaythe 31st of October. During the CQ contest he will sign
- PU0F.Rally news now, and we know of no rally for this weekend,
- and only one rallyscheduled for next weekend: The Leicester
- Amateur Radio and ElectronicsExhibition will be held at the
- usual venue, the Granby Halls, Aylestone Road,Leicester. This
- year the exhibition is to be held on Friday the 23rd andSaturday
- the 24th of October. Doors open at 10.00 am, or 9.30 for
- disabledvisitors. The event features an extensive trade
- exhibition, an RSGB Book andInformation stand and a bring and
- buy stand. Refreshments will be available.Talk-in is to be on
- channels S22 and SU22 using the callsign GB2GH. For acomplete
- guide, see the centre section of October's RadCom. Further
- detailscan be obtained from Frank Elliott, G4PDZ, by telephoning
- 0533 871086.Contest news next:Today, Sunday the 18th, the RSGB
- 21MHz CW Contest takes place between 0700 and1900GMT. Exchange
- RST, a serial number starting 001 and the RSGB County Codewhich
- can be found in the January 1992 edition of RadCom. The full
- rules areon page 66 of April's RadCom. Next weekend the CQ
- World-wide DX SSB Contesttakes place from 0000 on Saturday the
- 24th, to 2400 on Sunday the 25th. Allbands 160 to 10 metres will
- be used, excluding the WARC bands. See OctoberRadCom page 19 for
- brief information. Another in the RSGB's 1.3 and
- 2.3GHzCumulative series takes place on Wednesday the 21st of
- October. It runs from1930 to 2200GMT. See June RadCom page 65
- for further details.------------------------------Date: Fri, 16
- Oct 1992 12:43:56 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!gatech!udel!sbcs.sunysb.edu!rick@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- TAPR packetRADIO project in 8th CNCTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduWhat ever became of the TAPR packetRADIO
- project described in the 8thCNC pg 108-113? Rick
- Spanbauer State U of NY/Stony
- Brook------------------------------Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 15:01:24
- GMTFrom:
- swrinde!gatech!utkcs2!darwin.sura.net!mojo.eng.umd.edu!chuck@netw
- ork.UCSD.EDUTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences
- <Bw446o.Gz0@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk>,
- <1992Oct14.160652.3714@eng.umd.edu>,
- <1992Oct15.145520.17903@nessie.mcc.ac.uk>:Subject : Re: PktWin
- V1.0 TNC controller for Windows released.In article
- <1992Oct15.145520.17903@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> john@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
- writes:>>Even I could work out the it must run on an IBM PC of
- sorts, under>Windows 3.0 (at least) and that it is probably a
- packet terminal program.>And I haven't even seen it yet. SOME
- PEOPLE DO ASK DAFT QUESTIONS.Really? How did you determine that
- it was Windows 3.0, and not just a programthat just made a
- window like interface? And what made you assume that itruns
- under a PC? I have ZIP and UNZIP that run under unix. Just
- being"a packet terminal program" is a pretty wide charter to run
- under.Paul did a very nice job of describing the program in his
- response to my query.It's a shame thknowledgeat yours did
- nothing to further the knowledge of this program.73,Chuck Harris
- - WA3UQVchuck@eng.umd.edu------------------------------Date: 14
- Oct 92 19:30:52 GMTFrom:
- usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!newsserver
- .pixel.kodak.com!psinntp!psinntp!ncrlnk!ncrwic!mickey!donald!ktho
- mpso@network.UCSD.EDUTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences
- <Bvtn0I.nM@news.cso.uiuc.edu>,
- <1992Oct9.022433.7423@col.hp.com>, <BvxH9H.Crn@zero.com>xSubject
- : Re: ARRL RPTR Directory Stinks :-( (?)There are problems in
- the listings for Kansas anyway.Many machines, including mine,
- that should be listed:o(ca)ezopen repeater, closed autopatch,
- 911, emergency powerare instead listed:ocezI do not know what an
- open closed repeater is.The repeater council and the ARRL seem
- to blame each other for mistakes.-- Ken Thompson N0ITL NCR
- Corp. Peripheral Products Division Disk Array Development3718
- N. Rock Road Wichita KS 67226
- (316)636-8783Ken.Thompson@wichitaks.ncr.com
- ------------------------------Date: (null)From: (null)And now
- the solar factual data:The period 5th to 11th October saw an
- improvement in HF band conditions and amodest rise in solar
- activity. There were 2 flares reported, an M1.4/SN on the5th and
- a M3.1/1B on the 7th. A small magnetic storm was reported on the
- 9thbut little came of it. Spot counts have increased and meaned
- about the 130sthough the 6th was up to 166. Solar flux levels
- slightly declined over theperiod and averaged 124 units,
- dropping from 137 on the 6th down to 111 by the11th,
- Nevertheless this is an improvement over previous weeks. The
- geomagneticAp indices were quiet up to the 9th when a sudden
- small magnetic storm tookthe levels to very unsettled, with an
- Ap index of 26, the period averaged 12.8units. The state has
- been nil, nothing to report, throughout the period,except for
- the 9th. The radio quality indices rose to well above normal,
- beingextremely good on all circuits, with the Tokyo and Canberra
- circuits being upto excellent at times. Levels declined on the
- 10th back to normal. Thegeomagnetic aa indices for the 29th
- September to the 5th October, as suppliedby the British
- Geological Survey, declined from substorm levels of
- 78.7nanoTeslas on the 29th, down to very quiet levels of 8.3
- nanoTeslas by the 5thOctober. The daily indices averaged 31.5
- nanoTeslas for the period.Now the ionospheric data for England
- and Wales:The F2 daytime critical frequencies at Slough, as
- reported by Appleton,averaged 9.3MHz with levels reaching
- 11.3MHz on the 9th. This is the highestlevel since last April.
- The increase is partly due to the seasonal changes nowtaking
- place. The darkness hour lows averaged 2.7MHz and hardly changed
- day today with the lowest levels being around 05.00 hours and
- the highs between11.00 to 14.00 hours.Now the ionospheric data
- for the north:The F2 daytime critical frequencies at
- Sverdlodvsk:-(pronounced SVAIRD-LOVSK)averaged 8.2MHz, and the
- darkness hour lows 3.1MHz. The aa indices given inGB2RS are
- derived from data from Hartland UK and Canberra Australia.
- Thesestations were chosen because they are at conjugate points,
- which are each endof the same line of the earth's magnetic
- field. This gives a good guide to theplanetary conditions.And
- lastly the solar forecast:This week, the more active side of the
- sun will be coming into view. Solarflux levels are expected to
- be at about the 110s. Geomagnetic levels areexpected to be quiet
- and ionospheric conditions good. Daytime MUFs should beup to
- 30MHz, and darkness hour lows 18MHz, with 14MHz being best for
- darknesshours east/west circuits.And that is the end of the
- solar information.Finally in the main news, the licence issuing
- agency, SSL, has informed theSociety that as of last Wednesday
- morning, the latest callsigns issued were inthe G0 S N and G7 N
- U series, and Novice calls in the 2 0 A D and 2 1 B D series.
- .You're listening to GB2RS, the news broadcasting service of the
- Radio Societyof Great Britain, transmitting in the 80, 40, 6 and
- 2 metre bands.------------------------------End of Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #282******************************Date: Sun, 18 Oct
- 92 04:30:02 PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #283To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Sun,
- 18 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 283Today's Topics:
- KA9Q NOS with AX.25 driver?
- Kantronics KPC-1? M-sequence earlier post
- wampes sourcesSend Replies or notes
- for publication to: <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription
- requests to: <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't
- solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1992 04:53:53 GMTFrom:
- snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-picayune.mit.edu!slack.MIT.EDU!brit@u
- unet.uu.netSubject: KA9Q NOS with AX.25 driver?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduI'm interested in running KA9Q's TCP-IP
- software with a BayCom type modem,basically just a TCM3105.
- What do I have to change in the NOS software(i.e. in the
- AUTOEXEC.NET file or others) so as to have it run entirelyas
- normal with the "AX25" driver. I got the driver off an ftp
- site, Ibelieve it's the latest version out.Thanks in advance,73,
- BritKB4ZBP/KTbrit@athena.mit.edu------------------------------Dat
- e: 17 Oct 92 18:32:57 GMTFrom:
- usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!netnews.up
- enn.edu!uofs!triangle.cs.uofs.edu!bill@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- Kantronics KPC-1?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI have a KPC-2 that
- has run continuosly 24 hours a day, 365 days a yearfor over 5
- years. Never had a failure and never locked up in transmit.When
- this rumor first came out, I did some testing and found that if
- Itransmitted with over 100 watts with the antenna sitting on the
- desk next to the KPC-2, I could in fact force a lock-up. But
- under normal conditionsI think it is highly unlikely.If you are
- having this problem, I think you should be searching in
- otherdirections. Like excessive RF in the shack.bill KB3YV--
- Bill Gunshannon | If this statement wasn't
- here, bill@cs.uofs.edu | This space would be left
- intentionally blank |
- #include <std.disclaimer.h>
- ------------------------------Date: 17 Oct 1992 08:10:20
- -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: M-sequence earlier
- postTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI have corrected and expanded my
- earlier post on m-sequences buthave not posted it as it is
- rather long (3 pages). If you wisha copy, please send me a
- request with your e-mail address included.--David L. Wilson
- dwilson@s850.mwc.eduDepartment of Mathematics
- Amateur: AC4IU (ex-KD4ASW/KO4EQ)Mary Washington College
- Home Phone: (703)898-1084Fredericksburg, VA 22401
- Office Phone: (703)899-4744------------------------------Date:
- 18 Oct 1992 01:05:14 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: wampes sourcesTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduDoes any one have a working set of wampes
- source code that will !!sucessfully compile on a unix box
- running Linux 0.97 + 2.2.2 liblocals here keep saying it works
- or you need this include file [missing]or just keep very quiet
- and say nothing..So any USEFULL help please.. or the location of
- a working set ofWAMPES-921005 src code...thanks..
- Bt.------------------------------Date: Sat, 17 Oct 92 12:47:13
- GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!mojo.eng.umd.ed
- u!chuck@network.UCSD.EDUTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences
- <1992Oct14.160652.3714@eng.umd.edu>,
- <1992Oct15.145520.17903@nessie.mcc.ac.uk>,
- <1992Oct16.150124.6573@eng.umd.edu>Subject : Re: PktWin V1.0 TNC
- controller for Windows released.In article
- <1992Oct15.145520.17903@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> john@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
- writes:>>Even I could work out the it must run on an IBM PC of
- sorts, under>Windows 3.0 (at least) and that it is probably a
- packet terminal program.>And I haven't even seen it yet. SOME
- PEOPLE DO ASK DAFT QUESTIONS.Really? How did you determine that
- it was Windows 3.0, and not just a programthat just made a
- window like interface? And what made you assume that itruns
- under a PC? I have ZIP and UNZIP that run under unix. Just
- being"a packet terminal program" is a pretty wide charter to run
- under.Paul did a very nice job of describing the program in his
- response to my query.It's a shame that your posting did nothing
- to further our knowledge of hisprogram.73,Chuck Harris -
- WA3UQVchuck@eng.umd.eduPs. Sorry about the "broken" posting just
- befort this one, our system'sresponse time was going
- O(infinite), and it crashed while I was editingthe letter. Nice
- of it to post it though?------------------------------End of
- Packet-Radio Digest V92 #283******************************Date:
- Mon, 19 Oct 92 04:30:02 PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and
- Newsgroup <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #284To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Mon,
- 19 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 284Today's Topics:
- help getting IP address Motorola Radio
- Packet Modem: How to use? NNTP
- helpSend Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:40:15 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!
- psinntp!psinntp!wrldlnk!usenet@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: help
- getting IP addressTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI'm getting started
- with TCP/IP and am having problems getting an AMPRIP address. I
- have written to the coordinator for Eastern PA, John
- Gayman,WA3WBU, over a month ago, but he has ignored my request.
- I don't knowhow to contact him via packet or email. I got his
- phone number frominformation and tried calling but got a
- modem.This is really frustrating. Any suggestions for an
- alternate contact orother method of obtaining an address would
- be greatly appreciated.*HELP* Thanks much & 73. -Seth
- p00123@psilink.com------------------------------Date: Mon, 19
- Oct 1992 08:53:04 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!wupost!csus.edu!netcom.com!sphere@network.UCSD.EDUSubj
- ect: Motorola Radio Packet Modem: How to use?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduI just purchased at auction a pair of
- Motorola modems, eachlabled:RPM 840-C11 Radio Packet
- Modem.Anyone know what these do or how to use them? They
- haverechargeable NiCad packs and so, I presume, are intended
- formobile use...Please email your reply to sphere@netcom.com as
- I rarely read thisgroup.------------------------------Date: Mon,
- 19 Oct 1992 00:53:10 GMTFrom:
- haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!spool.mu.edu!mixcom.com!Glenn.Butzl
- aff@uunet.uu.netSubject: NNTP helpTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduHello,I am seeking help info in setting up
- my NOS switch to act as an NNTP server.I am running KA9Q NOS
- (pa0gri v2.0h) on an ampr.org tcpip network. The docsthat I
- have only refer to setting up as a client but not a server. I
- donthave direct access to the Internet/Usenet and am not even
- sure if NNTP isthe best way to go for offering Usenet groups to
- a handful of ampr.orgops, as I havent ever seen it in action.
- Any help would be appreciated,thanks in advance.Glenn /
- we9k@wb9tyt.#mke.wi.usa Glenn.Butzlaff@mixcom.com--
- ------------------------------Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1992 22:41:47
- GMTFrom:
- news.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!ddsw1!serveme!gagme!grahj@network.UCSD.E
- DUTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences
- <14580038@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>,
- <1992Oct13.024626.17587@cbfsb.cb.att.com>,
- <1992Oct14.134659.2800321@locus.com>Subject : Re: Kantronics
- KPC-1?In article <1992Oct14.134659.2800321@locus.com>
- dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers)writes:>Without personally
- insulting anyone, I personally feel it is irresponsible>to
- operate an unattended station without the use of a watchdog
- timer. I>would highly suggest that owners of KPC-2s invest the
- effort to build a>an external watchdog timer, or call up
- Kantronics and ask for one.does anyone know if this problem also
- exists with the Kantronics All Mode(KAM)? I'd hate to think
- that it could suddenly get locked into transmitmode....even
- ignoring the (not exactly minor) legal issues, and the
- (again,not exactly minor) issue of severe QRM, the simple fact
- that it couldcause a meltdown of what has always been a very
- solid 2m packet rig andpower amp is enough to worry me...add the
- legal and QRM issues, and itgets even worse!!!if this problem
- does exist with the KAM, can someone suggest to me exactlyhow I
- might build in a timer to prevent such problems? is it as
- simpleas setting up a simple 555 timer circuit (say, set to
- trigger after a fullminute of being in transmit mode) on the T/R
- control to the rig that wouldbe reset by dropping out of
- transmit mode? or are there any other issuesI should be
- concerned with? anyone have a schematic for such a
- circuithandy, so I can avoid re-inventing the wheel (even though
- it's a rathersimple circuit to begin with)? :-) anyone know
- how resistant the 555timer chip is to RFI problems? it's been a
- long time since I dealt withthese buggers in class, so I could
- be missing something obvious andstupid.... --jim--#include
- <std_disclaimer.h> 73 DE N5IAL
- (/9)-------------------------------------------------------------
- -----------------INTERNET: jim@n5ial.chi.il.us |
- grahj@gagme.chi.il.us | j.graham@ieee.orgICBM: 41.70N 87.63W
- UUCP: gagme!n5ial!jim@clout.chi.il.usAMATEUR
- RADIO: n5ial@n9hsi (Chicago.IL.US.Earth) AMTOR SELCAL:
- NIAL-------------------------------------------------------------
- -----------------------------------------------End of
- Packet-Radio Digest V92 #284******************************Date:
- Tue, 20 Oct 92 04:30:04 PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and
- Newsgroup <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #285To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Tue,
- 20 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 285Today's Topics:
- BayCom <--> Icom W2A ? POP
- for NET/Mac??? Ramsey P-IBM Packet Radio Kit
- Terminal setup help
- TNC-2 FirmwareSend Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: 19 Oct 1992 18:08:02 GMTFrom:
- sun-barr!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!seven-up.East.Sun.COM!boat!jkeyes@a
- mes.arpaSubject: BayCom <--> Icom W2A ?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduI have an Icom W2A HT and a BayCom modem
- hooked up to my Toshiba T2000laptop as follows:+------+
- +----------+| Icom
- |--gnd---------------------------------gnd--| || W2A
- |--spkr---------------------------audio in--| BayCom ||
- |--mike--+-------|(--------------audio out--| BayMod-9
- |====T2000+------+ | .1uf |
- Modem | | |
- | +-----/\/\/-------------------PTT--|
- | 33K
- +----------+I can receive packet pretty well (except when noise
- from the laptopinterferes). The problem is that the T2000 &
- BayCom won't transmit.That is, the Icom mike is never
- keyed.Questions:- Is this the correct way to hookup a W2A to my
- BayCom? The W2A manual does not document the connections on
- the speaker/mike phone jack connector, but since I know which
- one is ground, and which one is speaker, the other one *is* the
- mike, right?- Is .1uf the correct value for the capacitor? I've
- seen conflicting advice for what value to use.- How does the
- PTT on the Icom work without a seperate PTT line?Thanks for any
- help!John
- N1IPEjkeyes@East.Sun.COM------------------------------Date: 19
- Oct 1992 09:03:56 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject:
- POP for NET/Mac???To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduHas anyone seen an
- implentation of a POP application package for NET/Mac?73 for
- now.... c u on the shortwavesTerry - KA8SCP/1, America Online
- Ham Radio Club HostInternet: tstader@aol.com (files <28K) _or_
- tstader@attmail.com (files
- >28K)KA8SCP@WA1PHY.#EMA.MA.USA.NOAM _or_ ka8scp@ka8scp.ampr.org
- [44.56.4.82]------------------------------Date: 19 Oct 1992
- 17:02:44 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!uwm.edu!usenet@network.
- UCSD.EDUSubject: Ramsey P-IBM Packet Radio KitTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduI've been thinking about getting back into
- amateur radio (I got my firstlicense, KA9JHH, when I was 12 but
- let it expire...), and I'm reallyinterested in packet though I
- honestly haven't learned much about it yet.Right now, I'm
- looking into the hardware requirements. I just purchasedmy very
- own IBM-type PC, and I'll be running Linux (FreeWare UN*X
- clone,see comp.os.linux) on it complete with TCP/IP. I'd *love*
- to set up apacket radio connection to the 44-net, but alas...
- I'm *cheap*.Ramsey Electronics Inc. (793 Canning Pkwy, Victor,
- NY 14564) sells whatthey call a "packet radio kit". I think
- it's only a modem... am I right?Does anyone know what kind of
- connections go from this modem to the rig?Are there any packet
- operators here in the greater-Milwaukee area?How much power will
- my transceiver need to reach you guys???(Just a general idea
- would be nice. I know conditions vary.)Rick Miller
- <rick@ee.uwm.edu> | <rick@discus.mil.wi.us> Ricxjo
- MuelistoOccupation: Husband, Father, WEPCo. WAN Mgr., Discus
- Sys0p, and Linux fan------------------------------Date: 19 Oct
- 1992 07:18:46 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject:
- Terminal setup helpTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI am trying to use
- an "ALLOY" brand dumb terminal model PCST/Gto read the output of
- my PK-232. I can't, however, seem to get into the"setup" mode
- of this thing. the ctrl-s, alt-s, etc don't seem to get me
- thereand I don't have a manual. Anybody out there know this
- terminal or havea guess? Thanks.Carty KA2Y c.ellis@brock1p
- (Bitnet) or reply via this listor in the rochester NY area call
- 395-5153 days and 544-3249
- eves.Thanks.------------------------------Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1992
- 15:07:14 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.c
- so.uiuc.edu!atropa!berger@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: TNC-2
- FirmwareTo: packet-radio@ucsd.edudoug@ve6bc.uucp (Douglas
- MacKintosh, VE6BC) writes:>Can someone tell me what the latest,
- greatest version of firmware for the>TNC-2 (ie MFJ-127x)
- is?*----The latest I could find is 1.1.8. I wasn't able to get
- it working inmy Pac-Comm TNC-200 though.-- Mike
- Berger Department of Statistics, University of Illinois AT&TNET
- 217-244-6067 Internet
- berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu------------------------------End of
- Packet-Radio Digest V92 #285******************************Date:
- Wed, 21 Oct 92 04:30:03 PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and
- Newsgroup <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #286To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Wed,
- 21 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 286Today's Topics:
- Baudot to Ascii file conversion
- BayCom <--> Icom W2A ? Buckmaster CD Callsign
- Server Handy with BayCom-Modem
- HELP: Kenwood TM431 and TAPR 9600 baud modem
- KAM HF port to TS-850 NET/Mac for older
- Mac? (2 msgs) NetRom callsign change method
- TNC-2 firmware
- TS-450 Mods wampes sources
- where to get NET/Mac 2.3.9? (2 msgs)Send Replies or
- notes for publication to: <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send
- subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Tue, 20 Oct 92 19:13:00 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!gumby!destroyer!cs.ub
- c.ca!news.UVic.CA!sirius.UVic.CA!bmassey@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- Baudot to Ascii file conversion To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI
- need to update an old Baudot feed to an Ascii rs-232 feed but
- cannot find a wayto do this.. The hardware on the system can
- only receive 5 level bautot but theinformation will only be
- available in the near future by modem. I can put a PCin place
- to receive the data but need info on conversion on the pc for
- output tothis very old hardware.Software would be the answer but
- just info on Baudot would be of an assistance asI cannot find
- much on the code.Many thanks Bill.
- ------------------------------Date: 21 Oct 92 03:53:15 GMTFrom:
- eram!dave@midway.uchicago.eduSubject: BayCom <--> Icom W2A ?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1buti3INNana@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>,
- jkeyes@boat.East.Sun.COM writes:| I can receive packet pretty
- well (except when noise from the laptop| interferes). The
- problem is that the T2000 & BayCom won't transmit.| That is, the
- Icom mike is never keyed.Try 0.01 uF and about 10k.| - How does
- the PTT on the Icom work without a seperate PTT line?By the
- circuit sensing current drawn from the MIC/PTT line. Too high
- aresistor, and it never keys. Too low a resistor, and your
- audio getsshunted away. Too high a capacitor, and you get some
- interestingtime-constant effects. Too low a capacitor, and you
- don't get enoughaudio coupling. The transformer solution is
- much better, but I'venever tried it on Icom gear.Oh, and turn
- off your battery saver as well.-- Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)
- VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OCdave@esi.COM.AU
- ...munnari!esi.COM.AU!dave Disclaimer: "Me, speak for
- us?"------------------------------Date: 20 Oct 1992 08:58:30
- -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Buckmaster CD
- Callsign ServerTo: packet-radio@ucsd.edu>> seems to work fine.
- However, this code only supports the Oct. 1991 version>> of the
- Buckmaster CD-ROM. Has it every been updated to support the
- July>> 1992 (June?) CD-ROM (which apparently has had a format
- change)?> As it says in the readme.now, i have included the code
- as is; i have never> tested it myself, since i don't have the
- hardware to support it.> The code was sent to my by someone back
- east about 6 months or so ago...> If someone has a newer driver,
- send it to me and i'll include it.>> While i am at it, 1.05, due
- out next week, will compile with bc++3.0/1without> needing
- patches..>> 73> Johan, wg7jJohan (or others)...has anyone ever
- used the Buckmaster code in NET? I am looking for the code tobe
- able get incorporated into NET for the Mac. Adam-PA2AGA does not
- haveaccess to the HamCall info... so he doesn't know how to
- modify the existingcode.If I could get hte code from someone...
- maybe we can add this to the Macversion.73 for now.... c u on
- the shortwavesTerry - KA8SCP/1, America Online Ham Radio Club
- HostInternet: tstader@aol.com (files <28K) _or_
- tstader@attmail.com (files >28K)KA8SCP@WA1PHY.#EMA.MA.USA.NOAM
- _or_ ka8scp@ka8scp.ampr.org
- [44.56.4.82]------------------------------Date: 21 Oct 1992
- 01:06:02 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Handy
- with BayCom-ModemTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduInterfacing
- randheld-rig to a TNC or a BayCom modem seems to bea story,
- which could fill thick books.For the usual Baycom-modem (at
- least for the original circuitry),no external capacitor for
- DC-decoupling is required. The modem containsthis capacitor
- inside.In most cases, a resistor in the range 2.2 - 6.8 kOhm
- suits best to switchthe PTT.Take care with some Alinco-rig, a
- stereo-jack is required because +5Vis an additional pin on the
- mic-connector. This is connected to GND by plugging the usual
- mono-jack in.73 de Johannes, DG3RBU
- ------------------------------Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1992 20:04:33
- GMTFrom:
- news.acns.nwu.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!rdewan@network.UCSD.EDUSubj
- ect: HELP: Kenwood TM431 and TAPR 9600 baud modemTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edu I need help in interfacing the TAPR 9600
- baud modem to Kenwood TM431440MHz band mobile rig. While I have
- successfully connected the transmit side, I am havingdifficulty
- with the receive side. The second IF oscillator,
- mixer,demodulator and squelch circuits are on a small pc board,
- about1" by 2" labelled Kenwood KCD01 and is soldered in edge
- wise as a SIP IC. In fact, kenwood calls it IC1 (part KCD01).
- This board has been dipped in black epoxy so that no traces are
- visible. The components,all surface mount, are visible as bumps
- under the black epoxy.The only distinguishable component is a
- TK10487M (presumably FM IF/Demod)IC. The service manual does
- not include the schematic nor thefoil pattern of this board. I
- need to get un-filtered "raw" audiofor the modem. To further
- add to my woes, TK10487 is not listedin the IC master books.
- So...I would really appreciate hearing from you if you have
- gotten TM431or a similar rig with KCD01 to work with 9600 baud
- packet.I would also like to hear from you if you know which pin
- of TK10487Mis the audio out pin.Thanks in
- advance.Rajivaa9chr-dewan@nwu.edu------------------------------Da
- te: 20 Oct 1992 14:10:28 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: KAM HF port to TS-850To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduAnyone hooked up a KAM to a Kenwood TS-850S
- via the HF port on the KAM? Iwould like to set it up to use FSK
- (as opposed to AFSK) if possible. Jon Albers KA
-
- 3OVK albers@nogate1.ism.irs.gov------------------------------
- Date: 20 Oct 92 15:06:50 GMTFrom:
- news.cs.indiana.edu!arizona.edu!ece.arizona.edu!pasik@RUTGERS.EDU
- Subject: NET/Mac for older Mac?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI am
- looking for a version of NET/Mac which will run on a
- Macintosh512K with 64K ROM with two 400K non-HFS disk drives. I
- have triedseveral versions (2.x) and none work properly.If such
- a version of NET/Mac exists I would like to obtain a copy.Please
- contact me by e-mail (pasik@helios.ece.arizona.edu) since I
- amnot sure this is a topic of general interest. Thanks in
- advance.---------------------------------------------------------
- ------------- Michael Pasik, KC6UAQ
- pasik@helios.ece.arizona.edu------------------------------Date:
- 21 Oct 92 07:19:17 GMTFrom:
- data.nas.nasa.gov!taligent!apple!winter@ames.arpaSubject:
- NET/Mac for older Mac?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1992Oct20.080650@ece.arizona.edu> pasik@ece.arizona.edu
- (Michael Pasik) writes:>I am looking for a version of NET/Mac
- which will run on a Macintosh>512K with 64K ROM with two 400K
- non-HFS disk drives. I have tried>several versions (2.x) and
- none work properly.>>If such a version of NET/Mac exists I would
- like to obtain a copy.>Please contact me by e-mail
- (pasik@helios.ece.arizona.edu) since I am>not sure this is a
- topic of general interest. Thanks in advance.I think it
- probably is of general interest to remind everyone that
- DougThom, N6OYU, is the distributor of all pre-PA2AGA versions
- of NET/Mac.He may have a version that will run on your system. I
- use a version fromApril, 1989 that takes only 220K of disk space
- and needs only 350K to run.I run it on my Mac Plus (1MB RAM)
- along with Bdale's Mailer and TeachText.Haven't tried it on
- non-HFS disks.Doug's address is 1405 Graywood Dr., San Jose, CA
- 95129. Telephone is(408) 253-1306. You can also try reaching him
- at thom.d@applelink.apple.com.Patty--
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- :: Patty Winter N6BIS Internet: winter@apple.com
- :: :: Sunnyvale, California AMPRNet: 44.4.0.44
- ::
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- ------------------------------Date: Wed, 21 Oct 92 04:09:10
- GMTFrom: netcon!xenon!skyld!jangus@locus.ucla.eduSubject: NetRom
- callsign change methodTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduNETROMSubject:
- How to CHANGE the CALLSIGN in the NETROM SoftwareTHIS MOD IS NOT
- TO BE USED FOR PIRATING THE PRODUCT OF SOFTWARE 2000 OR ANY
- COPYRIGHT PRODUCT OR MATERIAL.A bit of History... When NETROM
- was first announced, most of the packet community realized
- thatit was another significant contribution to the growth of
- packet radio.Contributions from the WA7MBL and W0RLI authors,
- the hundreds of digipeaterowners, sysops of countless PBBS's and
- "packeteers" who have DONATED their timeand efforts to packet,
- have been the backbone of packet growth. Despite the many
- complaints from many amateurs over the cost of the
- NETROM"contribution", Digipeater owners once again dug deep into
- their pockets andDONATED their efforts to the cause of Packet
- Amateur Radio and NETROM Nodeshave been appearing everywhere.
- Now with the emerging controversy over Nord-Link's "THENET" (a
- NETROM"look-alike" being distributed FREE with source code for
- the Amateur communityto modify and improve), Mike Bush and Ron
- Weekes of Software 2000 (owners ofNETROM) have made harsh
- comments of theivery, etc.. towards Nord-Link for theirefforts.
- Amateurs who have viewed the code are questioning the validity
- of suchcomments by Software 2000.CONTINUED IN FILE
- NETROM.1NETROM.1 As a "packeteer" and a PBBS sysop, I can only
- view these comments as"wimpering" over the possible loss to the
- "padding of their pockets"Something I feel Amateur Packet should
- NOT be about! Software 2000 HAS made aworthy addition to the
- world of packet, and they are deserving of credit inthat aspect,
- but with the current cost of the initial NETROM software, PLUS
- the fact that a callsign change requires another COMPLETE
- purchase of that software,and now this "blubbering and
- name-calling" over Nord-Links release of "THENET",I can only
- conclude that Software 2000 is not interested in the
- "advancement ofthe art and science of Amateur Radio" as much as
- they are interested in the"advancement of the size of their
- wallet". If all of the fore-mentioned contributors (i.e. PBBS
- authors, digi owners,sysops, etc...) had this attitude, the
- packet network we ALL enjoy today wouldnot exist! Luckily, we
- still have hams who hold the advancement of the art andthe
- enjoyment of amateur radio above the almighty dollar. The
- following file was passed to me recently, and "In the spirit of
- AmateurPacket Radio and for the advancement of the Art and
- Science" I am passing thison for widest possible distribution. I
- ask only that this file be distributedin its entirety to
- preserve its intent.
- Mark Marston KA1NNN Sysop CoCoPBBSRemove the code from the
- following areas by setting values in these areas toHex $00.
- Address (PC Tools Reference)
- Hex: $ 0786 to $ 0797 Location 3 Lines
- 390 - 407 $ 2629 to $ 263A Location 19
- Lines 41 - 58 $ 3A75 to $ 3A86 Location 29
- Lines 117 - 134 $ 4BAF to $ 4BBC Location 37
- Lines 431 - 444 Insert the following 18 bytes into location
- starting at $ 0786 (PC Tools Reference:
- Location 3 Line 390) Address Insert
- (PC Tools Reference: Location 3)Hex: $ 0786 $ 21
- Line 390 $ 0787
- $ xx <-- 1st Letter of Callsign in ASCII Hex Line 391
- $ 0788 $ xx <-- 2nd Letter of Callsign in ASCII Hex
- Line 392 $ 0789 $ 22
- Line 393 $ 078A $ 30
- Line 394 $ 078B $ 82
- Line 395 $ 078C
- $ 21 Line 396
- $ 078D $ xx <-- 3rd Letter of Callsign in ASCII Hex
- Line 397 $ 078E $ xx <-- 4th Letter of Callsign in
- ASCII Hex Line 398 $ 078F $ 22
- Line 399 $ 0790 $ 32
- Line 400 $ 0791
- $ 82 Line 401
- $ 0792 $ 21
- Line 402 $ 0793 $ xx <-- 5th Letter of Callsign in
- ASCII Hex Line 403 $ 0794 $ xx <-- 6th Letter of
- Callsign in ASCII Hex Line 404 $ 0795 $ 22
- Line 405 $ 0796
- $ 34 Line 406
- $ 0797 $ 82
- Line 407 If the Callsign is less than 6 characters, pad the
- remaining characters withspaces which is a Hex $20. Insert
- the following 5 bytes starting at Location $ 4BAF
- (PC Tools Reference: Location 37 Line 431) Address
- Insert (PC Tools Reference: Location
- 37)Hex: $ 4BAF $ 3E
- Line 431 $ 4BB0 $ xx <-- SSID Code (Explained
- Below) Line 432 $ 4BB1 $ 32
- Line 433 $ 4BB2 $ 36
- Line 434 $ 4BB3
- $ 82 Line 435
- Place the Hex value for the desired SSID in Location $ 4BB0
- from the chart below: (PC Tools Reference: Location 37
- Line 432) SSID Hex Value 0 $ 60
- 1 $ 62 2 $ 64 3 $
- 66 4 $ 68 5 $ 6A 6
- $ 6C 7 $ 6E 8 $ 70
- 9 $ 72 10 $ 74 11 $
- 76 12 $ 78 13 $ 7A 14
- $ 7C 15 $ 7EThis completes the modification
- for the change of NETROM callsign.73's
- KA1NNN--xenon!skyld!jangus < .sig on vacation until winter
- solstice >J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice (310)
- 324-6080------------------------------Date: 20 Oct 1992 10:06:20
- -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: TNC-2 firmwareTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edu> doug@ve6bc.uucp (Douglas MacKintosh,
- VE6BC) writes:> >Can someone tell me what the latest, greatest
- version of firmware for the> >TNC-2 (ie MFJ-127x) is?> *---->
- The latest I could find is 1.1.8. I wasn't able to get it
- working in> my Pac-Comm TNC-200 though.> --> Mike Berger>
- Department of Statistics, University of Illinois> AT&TNET
- 217-244-6067> Internet berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.eduThe VERY
- latest version is 1.1.8a. The only difference from 1.1.8 is
- that there was a patch to KISS which only would affect satellite
- users. The firmware is on CompuServe and the WA6RDH BBS, plus
- available from the TAPR office (P. O. Box 12925, Tucson, AZ
- 85749) Programmed EPROM plus a 100 page command booklet is
- $12.00, postage included.I don't know why there would be a
- problem in a TNC-200. Have you upgraded to 32K
- memory?++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
- Bob Nielsen W6SWE Internet: rnielsen@tapr.ampr.org ++
- ax.25: w6swe@wb7tpy.az.usa.na ++ Tucson,
- Arizona amateur IP: 44.124.12.16 ++
- CIS: 71540,2364
- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
- -----------------------Date: 20 Oct 1992 19:29:54 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: TS-450 ModsTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduDoes anyone know what the modifications are
- to make a TS-450work on the MARS/CAP (esentially "out-of-band"
- operation)? Whatare
- they?Thanks--jd------------------------------Date: 20 Oct 1992
- 03:54:47 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: wampes
- sourcesTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIf anyone finds out the answer
- to this I'd like to know. I've got netrunning under linux as a
- server you can call up, and with a built in pseudonetrom node
- (some people had trouble coping with a different
- interface).Alan------------------------------Date: 20 Oct 1992
- 15:17:02 GMTFrom:
- usc!news.bbn.com!bbn.com!jmccombi@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: where
- to get NET/Mac 2.3.9?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edu------------------------------Date: 20 Oct
- 92 18:29:57 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!hri.com!ukma!psuvax1!atlantis.psu.edu!ems
- .psu.edu!ruth!jmr@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: where to get NET/Mac
- 2.3.9?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI have been putting the PA2AGA
- version of net/mac (now at rev 2.3.9) onucsd.edu. Look in the
- directory /hamradio/packet/tcpip/pa2aga
- or/hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming. Ivo's mailer, IM/Mac should
- alsobe in there.If you can't get it by FTP let me know and we
- can arrange something.73 - Joe
- AF2J------------------------------Date: (null)From: (null)Thanks
- in advance and 73 deJon N1ILZ------------------------------End
- of Packet-Radio Digest V92
- #286******************************Date: Thu, 22 Oct 92 04:30:03
- PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #287To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Thu,
- 22 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 287Today's Topics:
- A remote communication system Baudot to
- Ascii file conversion (2 msgs) Digicom 64
- Manuals (HELP) FTP SITE
- How to get started in packet
- Internet Address: Internet Gateway Policy
- KAM HF port to TS-850
- MSYS/SLIP connections? Ramsey P-IBM Packet
- Radio Kit RTTY and baudot code
- TAPR packetRADIO project in 8th CNC
- Telemetry radio network Terminal setup
- help TH-77A & packet
- TheNET X1G: What is it?
- Undelivered MailSend Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1992 15:05:28 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!gatech!cc.gatech.edu!vision1!bwester@network.UCSD.EDUSubj
- ect: A remote communication systemTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI am
- working on a project that involves communication from a base
- computer to a remote autonomous helicopter. I am looking into
- either building or getting my hands on a very reliable data link
- that will allow two way communication from base to remote
- vehicle. We have worked on a system that uses a high frequency
- tv transmitter to transmit converted digital data. We have also
- worked with LAWN's (local area wireless networks.) These two
- approaches are not effective enough in our situation. I was
- wondering if anyone knew about a more powerful system than the
- LAWNs, but has the capability of rs232 communication across a
- data link. I would gladly consider any alternatives!! Thanks
- for the
- help. --Bill---------------------------------------------------
- ----------------------- Bill D. Wester Georgia
- Institute of Technology School of Electrical Engineering,
- School of Computer Science Atlanta, GA 30332-0250 E-MAIL:
- bwester@eecom.gatech.edu bwester@cc.gatech.edu PHONE: (404)
- 853-0966 (eecom lab) (404) 894-9311 (robotics
- lab)------------------------------Date: 21 Oct 1992 08:20:12
- -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Baudot to Ascii
- file conversionTo: packet-radio@ucsd.edu>I need to update an old
- Baudot feed to an Ascii rs-232 feed but cannot find a >way to do
- this.. The hardware on the system can only receive 5 level
- bautot >but the information will only be available in the near
- future by modem. see a recent copy of "The ARRL Handbook". i'm
- assuming the problem is that you have to still send/receive your
- data in Baudot but have ASCII equipment.otherwise it's almost
- always easier and even cheaper to pull out the baudot equipment
- (mech. teletypes) and replace it with ASCII equipment (such as a
- VT-100 or whatever).------------------------------Date: 21 Oct
- 92 08:00:00 GMTFrom: sproul!Sproul@RUTGERS.EDUSubject: Baudot to
- Ascii file conversionTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1992Oct20.191300.2740@sol.UVic.CA>, bmassey@sirius.UVic.CA
- (Bill Massey (Rogers Cable)) writes:> I need to update an old
- Baudot feed to an Ascii rs-232 feed but cannot find a way> to do
- this.. The hardware on the system can only receive 5 level
- bautot but the> information will only be available in the near
- future by modem. I can put a PC> in place to receive the data
- but need info on conversion on the pc for output to> this very
- old hardware.> > Software would be the answer but just info on
- Baudot would be of an assistance as> I cannot find much on the
- code.> > Many thanks > > Bill. > I have written TONS of code for
- this conversion over the last 15 years.If you have the time I
- can probably find some of it for you. It maytake me a month or
- so to find it. In any event I have the conversiontables
- someplace.-------------------------------------Mark Sproul -
- KB2ICI------------------------------Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1992
- 15:27:37 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unoma
- ha.edu!cwis.unomaha.edu!rerickso@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- Digicom 64 Manuals (HELP)To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduhugo@vnet.ibm.com writes:> > Digicom 64 is
- a TNC-2 emulator and terminal program for the Commodore> 64.> >
- I got DIGICOM version 3.51 including the mini-editor, with no
- user> manuals> > I will appreciate very much, if somebody can
- e-mail to me the> appropiated documentation or any hint on how
- to get it.> > 73 de Hugo (OA4HV)> hugo@vnet.ibm.comHugo;I am not
- sure where you are located. If you have the 3.51 versionand you
- do not have docs, you should be able to get a sharewarecopy for
- only cost of copying. There is a California addressthat makes
- copies. I could make a disk copy if no one elsewould, but I
- would require $5.00 to do it. If you are inEurope, there has to
- be somewhere in England or Germany whohas the English version if
- you can not read German. If youask around over there, you
- should be able to find it. Ifyou know the Digicom/64 authors,
- and you are in Europe,contact them.I have had Digicom/64 since
- the Spring of 1987. I startedwith version 2.00, upgraded to
- another version I fail toremember and have been with version
- 3.51A for better than ayear. It works so well, I see no need
- for improvements.There was a SABM bug fixed from version 3.51 on
- the 3.51Aversion. I homebrewed my interface which I do
- notrecommend if you do not need to. I have an internalpower
- supply protected by 130-volt AC Varistors on the AC input.I have
- 130-volt Varistors behind fuses (very important ifyou do not
- like explosions when one type of varistor fails) andnever have
- to do any lightning repair due to AC linetransients. I also
- bond my AC neutral to three parallelearth grounds at my service
- entrance. That might notbe legal in some places. It can
- increase RFI problemsbut keeps lightning damage to a
- minimum.73,Ronald
- EricksonAK0N------------------------------Date: 21 Oct 92
- 23:12:14 CSTFrom:
- tulane!agwbbs!Angelo_Glorioso_Iii@ames.arpaSubject: FTP SITETo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduI am looking for a FTP site for the
- following Software: Tapr 1.1.8A - New release of ax25 code
- G8BPQ 4.06A - Lastest version of BPQ code FBB4.15F -
- Lastest version of FBB bbs software..Thanks for reading this..--
- Via DLG Pro
- v0.995Internet:angelo_glorioso_III@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US
- Usenet:rex!agwbbs!angelo_glorioso_III Packet:N5UXT @
- N5UXT.#NOLA.LA.USA.NA Tcp/ip:N5UXT.AMPT.ORG
- [44.108.2.13]------------------------------Date: 20 Oct 92
- 21:03:11 GMTFrom:
- usc!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!olivea!sgigate!psinntp!psi
- nntp!newstand.syr.edu!rodan.acs.syr.edu!demarsee@network.UCSD.EDU
- Subject: How to get started in packetTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduGreetings.I checked the FAQ and Pete's
- (KA3RFE) packet guide, but I still havesome questions:1) I have
- a Radio Shack Model 100 and a Yaseu FT411E that I want to use
- for a portable packet station. I figured out that I need a
- TNC and connector cables to hook them together, but it's not
- clear to me whether I need special software for the M100 to
- make it all work. Do I? And if so, where do I find it?2)
- Once I get the necessary parts together and working, how do I
- figure out how to send mail via all those
- digipeter/nodes/gateways? Do I just post mail to my own PBBS,
- or do I connect to some other BBS and tell it about my own
- PBBS, or what? Just how do you find out all the info you need
- to mail from point a to point b? Someone around here told me
- that the local "lan" was on 145.05, but there was no gateway
- to the "trunk" on 145.01 ... does that mean there is no way for
- me to send mail out of my local "lan"?3) Is there any
- store-and-forward capability in the packet network, or is it
- only point-to-point? I'm not planning on leaving this thing
- on 24 hours a day ... will someone only be able to send me
- something if my station (and all other necessary ones in
- between) are up and running?Sorry for all the questions, but
- the book I read on "how to get startedin packet" didn't really
- explain how to do packet very well for a completenovice (well,
- tech actually ... whenever my license gets here ... and yes,I'm
- studying the code for my general upgrade).Many Thanks &
- Regards,Darryl
- Marseedemarsee@mailbox.syr.edu------------------------------Date:
- Wed, 21 Oct 1992 12:37:45 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!crcnis1.un
- l.edu!news.unomaha.edu!cwis.unomaha.edu!rerickso@network.UCSD.EDU
- Subject: Internet Address:To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduDoes anyone
- know if there is an Internet address toThe W5YI Group in Dallas,
- Texas?Sincerely,Ronald
- EricksonAK0N------------------------------Date: 22 Oct 92
- 01:05:51 GMTFrom:
- usc!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!aukuni.ac.nz!kcbbs!kc@network.UCSD.EDUSu
- bject: Internet Gateway Policy To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI guess
- this belongs in r.r.a.policy but since the discussion has been
- mainly in this group, here goes .. How to provide
- usenet/email <-> packet gateway. Use a BBS to get Usenet NEWS
- and private email. This BBS has nothing to do with ham radio
- except that the SYSOP has a Ham License. The BBS just happens
- to have a multi-connect AX.25 port on it. No IP access - TTY
- only, just as youwould connect using the PSTN. Now, if any Ham
- wishes to have email or News hesimply logs into the BBS and
- registers (like any other user) and asks the sysofor email
- permission. AX25 is used only as terminal service. Not as sexy
- as protocol access - sure, but it does work, is being done, and
- doesn't have manypolitical problems. sw - ZL1BHD
- ------------------------------Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1992 13:44:55
- GMTFrom:
- news.acns.nwu.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!rdewan@network.UCSD.EDUSubj
- ect: KAM HF port to TS-850To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <9210201717.aa23250@nogate1.ism.irs.gov>
- albers@nogate1.ISm.irs.GOV (Jon Albers) writes:>Anyone hooked up
- a KAM to a Kenwood TS-850S via the HF port on the KAM? I>would
- like to set it up to use FSK (as opposed to AFSK) if possible.I
- have hooked up my 850 to an AEA PK232 for direct FSK. It worked
- wellafter I switched the key down tone to a mark from a space.
- This is easilydone on the Kenwood 850 by changing an EPROM
- parameter. The KAM should besimilar.Rajiv
- aa9ch Address: r-dewan@nwu.eduPhone: None. Only
- CW.And AMTOR occasionally.------------------------------Date:
- Wed, 21 Oct 1992 16:38:22 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.ed
- u!milo.mcs.anl.gov!chbmac01.el.anl.gov!user@network.UCSD.EDUSubje
- ct: MSYS/SLIP connections?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduDoes MSYS
- support any type of TCP/IP SLIP connection? Can it be linkedvia
- a serial cable to a system running, say, NOS?These thoughts are
- only my own. CHBeck@anl.gov
- WO9K------------------------------Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1992
- 15:33:10 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unoma
- ha.edu!cwis.unomaha.edu!rerickso@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Ramsey
- P-IBM Packet Radio KitTo: packet-radio@ucsd.edurick@ee.uwm.edu
- writes:> I've been thinking about getting back into amateur
- radio (I got my first> license, KA9JHH, when I was 12 but let it
- expire...), and I'm really> interested in packet though I
- honestly haven't learned much about it yet.> > Right now, I'm
- looking into the hardware requirements. I just purchased> my
- very own IBM-type PC, and I'll be running Linux (FreeWare UN*X
- clone,> see comp.os.linux) on it complete with TCP/IP. I'd
- *love* to set up a> packet radio connection to the 44-net, but
- alas... I'm *cheap*.> > Ramsey Electronics Inc. (793 Canning
- Pkwy, Victor, NY 14564) sells what> they call a "packet radio
- kit". I think it's only a modem... am I right?> Does anyone
- know what kind of connections go from this modem to the rig?> >
- Are there any packet operators here in the greater-Milwaukee
- area?> > How much power will my transceiver need to reach you
- guys???> (Just a general idea would be nice. I know conditions
- vary.)> > Rick Miller <rick@ee.uwm.edu> |
- <rick@discus.mil.wi.us> Ricxjo Muelisto> Occupation: Husband,
- Father, WEPCo. WAN Mgr., Discus Sys0p, and Linux fanRick;I
- think it is Poor Man's Packet if it is for the IBM. Themodem
- (you are correct) is also good for Digicom/64 with afew external
- wiring changes. It could use Baycom Softwarewhich was shareware
- and now is commercial. I have hadDigicom/64 since the Spring of
- 1987. It works great. I stay off of HF packet as it is a pain.
- AMTOR is better forHF from what I am told. You are better off
- using VHF/UHF/SHFpacket with the setup. Your computer is a TNC
- with theRamsey kit.Sincerely,Ronald
- EricksonAK0N------------------------------Date: 22 Oct 92
- 02:55:46 GMTFrom:
- att-out!cbfsb!cbnewsb.cb.att.com!wa2ise@RUTGERS.EDUSubject: RTTY
- and baudot codeTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduRather strange code
- follows:RTTY code (baudot?)letter figures 1 2 3 4
- 5-----------A - - B - - -C - - -D - - E - 3F -
- - -G - - -H - -I - - 8J - - -K - - - -L -
- -M - - - *N - -O - - 9P - - - 0Q - - - -
- 1R - - 4S - -T - 5U - - - 7V - - - -W - -
- - 2X - - - - /Y - - - 6Z - -cr -
- lf -sp -shift to letters - - - - -shift to figures - -
- - -- = mark, space = spacemark is a neg, space is a pos
- voltageEach character had a start pulse, and a stop pulse, in
- addition to 5 pulsesin the pattern in the above table. Looks
- like the start is a space pulse,and the stop is a mark. Each
- pulse is 22ms long, except the stop, whichis 31ms long. Going
- from letters to figures is done by a shift up, andgoing to
- letters is a shift down. Looks like if you are in letters, and
- the next character is to be a number, you have to send a "shift
- to figures"and then the pattern for the number. No case
- distinction on case forletters (guess you can't do UNIX on a
- baudot terminal!).This info was pulled out of the '77 ARRL
- Handbook, page 459------------------------------Date: Wed, 21
- Oct 1992 17:08:21 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!gatech!news.byu.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!noc.near.net!gatew
- ay!miki!wpns@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: TAPR packetRADIO project
- in 8th CNCTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1992Oct16.124356.25302@sbcs.sunysb.edu> rick@cs.sunysb.edu
- (Richard Spanbauer) writes:>What ever became of the TAPR
- packetRADIO project described in the 8th>CNC pg 108-113?Not much
- of late. They almost had it working, but then the
- volunteers(note that word) got off onto other projects and it
- was neverfinished. Last I heard they were hoping someone would
- volunteer(there's that word again) to finish it off. I vaguely
- recollect thatthe logic was working but it needed some work in
- the RF section.Willie
- Smithwpns@pictel.com------------------------------Date: 21 Oct
- 92 16:01:49 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!gatech!destroyer!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!chx400!s
- icsun!jungfrau.cica.fr!machen@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Telemetry
- radio networkTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI am working on a project
- which consist of building a seismograph radio network for
- volcanoes monitoring. I am thinking of a solution similar to the
- Amateur Packet Radio network.The bit rate should be of 9600
- bit/s or higher to insure continuousmeasurements during high
- seismic activities.The traditional 9600 bit/s phone modems use
- QAM modulation. This modulation doesn't seem adequate in radio
- communication because of the amplitude sensibility of the
- modulated signal. So I willneed a modem using FSK or PSK
- modulation, this will increase the bandwith of the signal. Most
- transceiver are designed for voice transmission and have a
- 3kHzbandwith. My transceiver must have a wider bandwith (20 kHz
- if FSK modulation is used at 10 kbit/s). Does anyone knows what
- kind of modem and whatkind of transceiver suits my application ?
- Roland
- Machenbaum e-mail: machen@eurecom.fr-----------------------------
- -Date: 20 Oct 92 10:57:38 GMTFrom:
- olivea!sgigate!psinntp!psinntp!wrldlnk!usenet@ames.arpaSubject:
- Terminal setup helpTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI can't help with
- the terminal, but as far as the PK232 goes, here isa
- possibility... If it's in KISS mode and you are trying to
- getout of it, three CTRL-C's in a row sent to it should do it.
- Of courseyou need to send them at the right baud
- rate.-Seth>DATE: 19 Oct 1992 07:18:46 -0700>FROM: Carlton
- Ellis <CELLIS%BROCK1P.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>>>I am trying to
- use an "ALLOY" brand dumb terminal model PCST/G>to read the
- output of my PK-232. I can't, however, seem to get into
- the>"setup" mode of this thing. the ctrl-s, alt-s, etc don't
- seem to get me there>and I don't have a manual. Anybody out
- there know this terminal or have>a guess? Thanks.>Carty KA2Y
- c.ellis@brock1p (Bitnet) or reply via this list>or in the
- rochester NY area call 395-5153 days and 544-3249
- eves.>Thanks.------------------------------Date: Thu, 22 Oct
- 1992 00:11:20 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!torn!cunews!nrcne
- t0!hobbit.gandalf.ca!bbracal@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: TH-77A &
- packetTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI'd like to hear from anyone
- who's had success working the Kenwood TH-77Aon
- packet.------------------------------Date: 22 Oct 92 01:05:53
- GMTFrom:
- usc!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!aukuni.ac.nz!kcbbs!kc@network.UCSD.EDUSu
- bject: TheNET X1G: What is it? To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI've
- installed TheNET firmware before, but does X1G have something
- special going for it ? reply with email tnx. sw - ZL1BHD
- ------------------------------Date: 21 Oct 1992 08:34:38
- -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Undelivered
- MailTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduThe following message was not
- delivered because ofthe following error: -1130-ch no
- response----------------------- Original Message
- -----------------------Date: 10-21-92 4:30am PDTFrom:
- {packet-radio@ucsd.edu}:postman:nasa-ksc To:
- mccaskey-a:pon-100:nasa-kscSubj: Packet-Radio Digest V92
- #286-------------------------------------------------------------
- ---------Packet-Radio Digest Wed, 21 Oct 92 Volume
- 92 : Issue 286Today's Topics: Baudot to Ascii
- file conversion BayCom <--> Icom W2A ?
- Buckmaster CD Callsign Server
- Handy with BayCom-Modem HELP: Kenwood TM431 and
- TAPR 9600 baud modem KAM HF port to
- TS-850 NET/Mac for older Mac? (2 msgs)
- NetRom callsign change method
- TNC-2 firmware TS-450 Mods
- wampes sources where to get
- NET/Mac 2.3.9? (2 msgs)Send Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Tue, 20 Oct 92 19:13:00 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!gumby!destroyer!cs.ub
- c.ca!news.UVic.CA!sirius.UVic.CA!bmassey@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- Baudot to Ascii file conversion To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI
- need to update an old Baudot feed to an Ascii rs-232 feed but
- cannot find a wayto do this.. The hardware on the system can
- only receive 5 level bautot but theinformation will only be
- available in the near future by modem. I can put a PCin place
- to receive the data but need info on conversion on the pc for
- output tothis very old hardware.Software would be the answer but
- just info on Baudot would be of an assistance asI cannot find
- much on the code.Many thanks Bill.
- ------------------------------Date: 21 Oct 92 03:53:15 GMTFrom:
- eram!dave@midway.uchicago.eduSubject: BayCom <--> Icom W2A ?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1buti3INNana@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>,
- jkeyes@boat.East.Sun.COM writes:| I can receive packet pretty
- well (except when noise from the laptop| interferes). The
- problem is that the T2000 & BayCom won't transmit.| That is, the
- Icom mike is never keyed.Try 0.01 uF and about 10k.| - How does
- the PTT on the Icom work without a seperate PTT line?By the
- circuit sensing current drawn from the MIC/PTT line. Too high
- aresistor, and it never keys. Too low a resistor, and your
- audio getsshunted away. Too high a capacitor, and you get some
- interestingtime-constant effects. Too low a capacitor, and you
- don't get enoughaudio coupling. The transformer solution is
- much better, but I'venever tried it on Icom gear.Oh, and turn
- off your battery saver as well.-- Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)
- VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OCdave@esi.COM.AU
- ...munnari!esi.COM.AU!dave Disclaimer: "Me, speak for
- us?"------------------------------Date: 20 Oct 1992 08:58:30
- -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Buckmaster CD
- Callsign ServerTo: packet-radio@ucsd.edu>> seems to work fine.
- However, this code only supports the Oct. 1991 version>> of the
- Buckmaster CD-ROM. Has it every been updated to support the
- July>> 1992 (June?) CD-ROM (which apparently has had a format
- change)?> As it says in the readme.now, i have included the code
- as is; i have never> tested it myself, since i don't have the
- hardware to support it.> The code was sent to my by someone back
- east about 6 months or so ago...> If someone has a newer driver,
- send it to me and i'll include it.>> While i am at it, 1.05, due
- out next week, will compile with bc++3.0/1without> needing
- patches..>> 73> Johan, wg7jJohan (or others)...has anyone ever
- used the Buckmaster code in NET? I am looking for the code tobe
- able get incorporated into NET for the Mac. Adam-PA2AGA does not
- haveaccess to the HamCall info... so he doesn't know how to
- modify the existingcode.If I could get hte code from someone...
- maybe we can add this to the Macversion.73 for now.... c u on
- the shortwavesTerry - KA8SCP/1, America Online Ham Radio Club
- HostInternet: tstader@aol.com (files <28K) _or_
- tstader@attmail.com (files >28K)KA8SCP@WA1PHY.#EMA.MA.USA.NOAM
- _or_ ka8scp@ka8scp.ampr.org
- [44.56.4.82]------------------------------Date: 21 Oct 1992
- 01:06:02 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Handy
- with BayCom-ModemTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduInterfacing
- randheld-rig to a TNC or a BayCom modem seems to bea story,
- which could fill thick books.For the usual Baycom-modem (at
- least for the original circuitry),no external capacitor for
- DC-decoupling is required. The modem containsthis capacitor
- inside.In most cases, a resistor in the range 2.2 - 6.8 kOhm
- suits best to switchthe PTT.Take care with some Alinco-rig, a
- stereo-jack is required because +5Vis an additional pin on the
- mic-connector. This is connected to GND by plugging the usual
- mono-jack in.73 de Johannes, DG3RBU
- ------------------------------Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1992 20:04:33
- GMTFrom:
- news.acns.nwu.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!rdewan@network.UCSD.EDUSubj
- ect: HELP: Kenwood TM431 and TAPR 9600 baud modemTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edu I need help in interfacing the TAPR 9600
- baud modem to Kenwood TM431440MHz band mobile rig. While I have
- successfully connected the transmit side, I am havingdifficulty
- with the receive side. The second IF oscillator,
- mixer,demodulator and squelch circuits are on a small pc board,
- about1" by 2" labelled Kenwood KCD01 and is soldered in edge
- wise as a SIP IC. In fact, kenwood calls it IC1 (part KCD01).
- This board has been dipped in black epoxy so that no traces are
- visible. The components,all surface mount, are visible as bumps
- under the black epoxy.The only distinguishable component is a
- TK10487M (presumably FM IF/Demod)IC. The service manual does
- not include the schematic nor thefoil pattern of this board. I
- need to get un-filtered "raw" audiofor the modem. To further
- add to my woes, TK10487 is not listedin the IC master books.
- So...I would really appreciate hearing from you if you have
- gotten TM431or a similar rig with KCD01 to work with 9600 baud
- packet.I would also like to hear from you if you know which pin
- of TK10487Mis the audio out pin.Thanks in
- advance.Rajivaa9chr-dewan@nwu.edu------------------------------Da
- te: 20 Oct 1992 14:10:28 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: KAM HF port to TS-850To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduAnyone hooked up a KAM to a Kenwood TS-850S
- via the HF port on the KAM? Iwould like to set it up to use FSK
- (as opposed to AFSK) if possible. Jon Albers
- KA3OVK albers@nogate1.ism.irs.gov----------------------------
- --Date: 20 Oct 92 15:06:50 GMTFrom:
- news.cs.indiana.edu!arizona.edu!ece.arizona.edu!pasik@RUTGERS.EDU
- Subject: NET/Mac for older Mac?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI am
- looking for a version of NET/Mac which will run on a
- Macintosh512K with 64K ROM with two 400K non-HFS disk drives. I
- have triedseveral versions (2.x) and none work properly.If such
- a version of NET/Mac exists I would like to obtain a copy.Please
- contact me by e-mail (pasik@helios.ece.arizona.edu) since I
- amnot sure this is a topic of general interest. Thanks in
- advance.---------------------------------------------------------
- ------------- Michael Pasik, KC6UAQ
- pasik@helios.ece.arizona.edu------------------------------Date:
- 21 Oct 92 07:19:17 GMTFrom:
- data.nas.nasa.gov!taligent!apple!winter@ames.arpaSubject:
- NET/Mac for older Mac?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1992Oct20.080650@ece.arizona.edu> pasik@ece.arizona.edu
- (Michael Pasik) writes:>I am looking for a version of NET/Mac
- which will run on a Macintosh>512K with 64K ROM with two 400K
- non-HFS disk drives. I have tried>several versions (2.x) and
- none work properly.>>If such a version of NET/Mac exists I would
- like to obtain a copy.>Please contact me by e-mail
- (pasik@helios.ece.arizona.edu) since I am>not sure this is a
- topic of general interest. Thanks in advance.I think it
- probably is of general interest to remind everyone that
- DougThom, N6OYU, is the distributor of all pre-PA2AGA versions
- of NET/Mac.He may have a version that will run on your system. I
- use a version fromApril, 1989 that takes only 220K of disk space
- and needs only 350K to run.I run it on my Mac Plus (1MB RAM)
- along with Bdale's Mailer and TeachText.Haven't tried it on
- non-HFS disks.Doug's address is 1405 Graywood Dr., San Jose, CA
- 95129. Telephone is(408) 253-1306. You can also try reaching him
- at thom.d@applelink.apple.com.Patty--
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- :: Patty Winter N6BIS Internet: winter@apple.com
- :: :: Sunnyvale, California AMPRNet: 44.4.0.44
- ::
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- ------------------------------Date: Wed, 21 Oct 92 04:09:10
- GMTFrom: netcon!xenon!skyld!jangus@locus.ucla.eduSubject: NetRom
- callsign change methodTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduNETROMSubject:
- How to CHANGE the CALLSIGN in the NETROM SoftwareTHIS MOD IS NOT
- TO BE USED FOR PIRATING THE PRODUCT OF SOFTWARE 2000 OR ANY
- COPYRIGHT PRODUCT OR MATERIAL.A bit of History... When NETROM
- was first announced, most of the packet community realized
- thatit was another significant contribution to the growth of
- packet radio.Contributions from the WA7MBL and W0RLI authors,
- the hundreds of digipeaterowners, sysops of countless PBBS's and
- "packeteers" who have DONATED their timeand efforts to packet,
- have been the backbone of packet growth. Despite the many
- complaints from many amateurs over the cost of the
- NETROM"contribution", Digipeater owners once again dug deep into
- their pockets andDONATED their efforts to the cause of Packet
- Amateur Radio and NETROM Nodeshave been appearing everywhere.
- Now with the emerging controversy over Nord-Link's "THENET" (a
- NETROM"look-alike" being distributed FREE with source code for
- the Amateur communityto modify and improve), Mike Bush and Ron
- Weekes of Software 2000 (owners ofNETROM) have made harsh
- comments of theivery, etc.. towards Nord-Link for theirefforts.
- Amateurs who have viewed the code are questioning the validity
- of suchcomments by Software 2000.CONTINUED IN FILE
- NETROM.1NETROM.1 As a "packeteer" and a PBBS sysop, I can only
- view these comments as"wimpering" over the possible loss to the
- "padding of their pockets"Something I feel Amateur Packet should
- NOT be about! Software 2000 HAS made aworthy addition to the
- world of packet, and they are deserving of credit inthat aspect,
- but with the current cost of the initial NETROM software, PLUS
- the fact that a callsign change requires another COMPLETE
- purchase of that software,and now this "blubbering and
- name-calling" over Nord-Links release of "THENET",I can only
- conclude that Software 2000 is not interested in the
- "advancement ofthe art and science of Amateur Radio" as much as
- they are interested in the"advancement of the size of their
- wallet". If all of the fore-mentioned contributors (i.e. PBBS
- authors, digi owners,sysops, etc...) had this attitude, the
- packet network we ALL enjoy today wouldnot exist! Luckily, we
- still have hams who hold the advancement of the art andthe
- enjoyment of amateur radio above the almighty dollar. The
- following file was passed to me recently, and "In the spirit of
- AmateurPacket Radio and for the advancement of the Art and
- Science" I am passing thison for widest possible distribution. I
- ask only that this file be distributedin its entirety to
- preserve its intent.
- Mark Marston KA1NNN Sysop CoCoPBBSRemove the code from the
- following areas by setting values in these areas toHex $00.
- Address (PC Tools Reference)
- Hex: $ 0786 to $ 0797 Location 3 Lines
- 390 - 407 $ 2629 to $ 263A Location 19
- Lines 41 - 58 $ 3A75 to $ 3A86 Location 29
- Lines 117 - 134 $ 4BAF to $ 4BBC Location 37
- Lines 431 - 444 Insert the following 18 bytes into location
- starting at $ 0786 (PC Tools Reference:
- Location 3 Line 390) Address Insert
- (PC Tools Reference: Location 3)Hex: $ 0786 $ 21
- Line 390 $ 0787
- $ xx <-- 1st Letter of Callsign in ASCII Hex Line 391
- $ 0788 $ xx <-- 2nd Letter of Callsign in ASCII Hex
- Line 392 $ 0789 $ 22
- Line 393 $ 078A $ 30
- Line 394 $ 078B $ 82
- Line 395 $ 078C
- $ 21 Line 396
- $ 078D $ xx <-- 3rd Letter of Callsign in ASCII Hex
- Line 397 $ 078E $ xx <-- 4th Letter of Callsign in
- ASCII Hex Line 398 $ 078F $ 22
- Line 399 $ 0790 $ 32
- Line 400 $ 0791
- $ 82 Line 401
- $ 0792 $ 21
- Line 402 $ 0793 $ xx <-- 5th Letter of Callsign in
- ASCII Hex Line 403 $ 0794 $ xx <-- 6th Letter of
- Callsign in ASCII Hex Line 404 $ 0795 $ 22
- Line 405 $ 0796
- $ 34 Line 406
- $ 0797 $ 82
- Line 407 If the Callsign is less than 6 characters, pad the
- remaining characters withspaces which is a Hex $20. Insert
- the following 5 bytes starting at Location $ 4BAF
- (PC Tools Reference: Location 37 Line 431) Address
- Insert (PC Tools Reference: Location
- 37)Hex: $ 4BAF $ 3E
- Line 431 $ 4BB0 $ xx <-- SSID Code (Explained
- Below) Line 432 $ 4BB1 $ 32
- Line 433 $ 4BB2 $ 36
- Line 434 $ 4BB3
- $ 82 Line 435
- Place the Hex value for the desired SSID in Location $ 4BB0
- from the chart below: (PC Tools Reference: Location 37
- Line 432) SSID Hex Value 0 $ 60
- 1 $ 62 2 $ 64 3 $
- 66 4 $ 68 5 $ 6A 6
- $ 6C 7 $ 6E 8 $ 70
- 9 $ 72 10 $ 74 11 $
- 76 12 $ 78 13 $ 7A 14
- $ 7C 15 $ 7EThis completes the modification
- for the change of NETROM callsign.73's
- KA1NNN--xenon!skyld!jangus < .sig on vacation until winter
- solstice >J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice (310)
- 324-6080------------------------------Date: 20 Oct 1992 10:06:20
- -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: TNC-2 firmwareTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edu> doug@ve6bc.uucp (Douglas MacKintosh,
- VE6BC) writes:> >Can someone tell me what the latest, greatest
- version of firmware for the> >TNC-2 (ie MFJ-127x) is?> *---->
- The latest I could find is 1.1.8. I wasn't able to get it
- working in> my Pac-Comm TNC-200 though.> --> Mike Berger>
- Department of Statistics, University of Illinois> AT&TNET
- 217-244-6067> Internet berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.eduThe VERY
- latest version is 1.1.8a. The only difference from 1.1.8 is
- that there was a patch to KISS which only would affect satellite
- users. The firmware is on CompuServe and the WA6RDH BBS, plus
- available from the TAPR office (P. O. Box 12925, Tucson, AZ
- 85749) Programmed EPROM plus a 100 page command booklet is
- $12.00, postage included.I don't know why there would be a
- problem in a TNC-200. Have you upgraded to 32K
- memory?++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
- Bob Nielsen W6SWE Internet: rnielsen@tapr.ampr.org ++
- ax.25: w6swe@wb7tpy.az.usa.na ++ Tucson,
- Arizona amateur IP: 44.124.12.16 ++
- CIS: 71540,2364
- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
- -----------------------Date: 20 Oct 1992 19:29:54 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: TS-450 ModsTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduDoes anyone know what the modifications are
- to make a TS-450work on the MARS/CAP (esentially "out-of-band"
- operation)? Whatare
- they?Thanks--jd------------------------------Date: 20 Oct 1992
- 03:54:47 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: wampes
- sourcesTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIf anyone finds out the answer
- to this I'd like to know. I've got netrunning under linux as a
- server you can call up, and with a built in pseudonetrom node
- (some people had trouble coping with a different
- interface).Alan------------------------------Date: 20 Oct 1992
- 15:17:02 GMTFrom:
- usc!news.bbn.com!bbn.com!jmccombi@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: where
- to get NET/Mac 2.3.9?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edu------------------------------Date: 20 Oct
- 92 18:29:57 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!hri.com!ukma!psuvax1!atlantis.psu.edu!ems
- .psu.edu!ruth!jmr@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: where to get NET/Mac
- 2.3.9?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI have been putting the PA2AGA
- version of net/mac (now at rev 2.3.9) onucsd.edu. Look in the
- directory /hamradio/packet/tcpip/pa2aga
- or/hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming. Ivo's mailer, IM/Mac should
- alsobe in there.If you can't get it by FTP let me know and we
- can arrange something.73 - Joe
- AF2J------------------------------Date: (null)From: (null)Thanks
- in advance and 73 deJon N1ILZ------------------------------End
- of Packet-Radio Digest V92
- #286******************************------------------------------E
- nd of Packet-Radio Digest V92
- #287******************************Date: Fri, 23 Oct 92 04:30:03
- PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
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- Digest V92 #288To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Fri,
- 23 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 288Today's Topics:
- Baudot To ascii file conv Baudot to
- Ascii file conversion Digicom 5.0 / english
- manual Help for Ramsey Packet Modem users
- How to get started in packet
- TAPR packetRADIO Telemetry radio
- network TH-77A & packet
- TNC-2 firmware X-1G and KISS
- pass-thru...Send Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1992 10:06:55 -0600From:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!zazen!doug.cae.wisc.edu
- !umn.edu!uum1!kksys.com!tdkt!FredGate@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- Baudot To ascii file convTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduBM>Newsgroups:
- rec.radio.amateur.packetBM>I need to update an old Baudot feed
- to an Ascii rs-232 feed but cannot findBM>wayBM>to do this..
- The hardware on the system can only receive 5 level bautot
- butBM>theBM>information will only be available in the near
- future by modem. I can put aBM>PCBM>in place to receive the
- data but need info on conversion on the pc for outpuBM>toBM>this
- very old hardware.BM>Software would be the answer but just info
- on Baudot would be of anBM>assistance asBM>I cannot find much on
- the code.BM>Many thanksBM>Bill.The ARRL Amateur Radio Handbook
- lists both the Baudot and ASCII codeswith timings and patterns
- etc. * SLMR 2.1a * Rule #1 of intelligent tinkering is to save
- all the parts * Origin: HAM>link< RBBS 612/HAM-0000 Saint Paul,
- MN (K0TG) (1:282/100)------------------------------Date: Thu, 22
- Oct 1992 15:35:49 GMTFrom:
- usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.cso.u
- iuc.edu!atropa!berger@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Baudot to Ascii
- file conversion To: packet-radio@ucsd.edubmassey@sirius.UVic.CA
- (Bill Massey (Rogers Cable)) writes:>I need to update an old
- Baudot feed to an Ascii rs-232 feed but cannot find a way>to do
- this.. The hardware on the system can only receive 5 level
- bautot but the>information will only be available in the near
- future by modem. I can put a PC>in place to receive the data
- but need info on conversion on the pc for output to>this very
- old hardware.>Software would be the answer but just info on
- Baudot would be of an assistance as>I cannot find much on the
- code.*----Baudot is well-documented, and any book on RTTY, old
- copies of theRadio Amateur's Handbook, and many books on digital
- communicationslist it. A few years ago I wrote a program that
- converts my oldbaudot picture tapes to ASCII, and you're welcome
- to a copy. Sincemy "new" tape reader was designed for more
- modern tapes, and mykleinschmidt reperf used wider tape (and
- printed along the bottom)I had to read them in upside down and
- backwards. My programcompensates for that, but it's easy to
- change back.-- Mike Berger Department of Statistics, University
- of Illinois AT&TNET 217-244-6067 Internet
- berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu------------------------------Date:
- 23 Oct 1992 01:03:58 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Digicom 5.0 / english
- manualTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduThere have been several requests
- concerning english manuals forDigicom>64/128.As far as I know, a
- translation for the old version 3.51 exists, but Ihave never
- seen it yet. A guy from england told me, that somebody
- hastranslated these 100kB of text.In June 1992, we published
- Digicom Version 5.0. This program, most partswritten by Daniel,
- DL3RDB, has not many new features, but is much betterin
- performance. As an additional feature, you can connect a
- littleslotcard to the expansion port (carrying a Z8530 and 5
- TTLs). By usingthis card, called SCC.64, Digicom can operate on
- two independent HF-portswith baudrates from 1200 - 19200Bd. This
- development was necessary due to the increasing number of
- PR-user access in germany, operating on 9600Bd.Though there is
- an english version of the program again, we still couldn'tmanage
- to get the manual translated into english. I asked Denis,
- G0KIU,who has translated most of the BayCom-Manuals, but still
- didn`t got anyfeedback. But I still hope, that this word can be
- done in the next months.73`s de Johannes, DG3RBU(and the other
- Digicom/BayCom-Crew: DL8MBT, DL3RDB, DK5RQ, DL5RL,
- DF2RF)------------------------------Date: 23 Oct 92 02:43:46
- GMTFrom: olivea!sgigate!odin!atlas!michaels@ames.arpaSubject:
- Help for Ramsey Packet Modem usersTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI am
- posting this for a friend who does not have net access,but can
- receive e-mail by UUCP. Feel free to send responses tome if
- mail to frank bounces. His address is
- frank%xcntrk@relay.sgi.com.---Included text follows---I am sorry
- you made the same mistake that I did and bought a packetmodem
- from Ramsey as I did. BUT, I have a fix for it that made
- mineinto something that Ramsey never thought of, "A REAL WORKING
- PACKETMODEM" Their basic idea is sound, but not their circuit
- configuration.Here are the steps I used to cure the "HARD
- CONNECTS".1 - Remove C14 and replace with a .1uF monolithic or
- ceramic. Anything over 10 volts will do nicely.2 - Remove JMP7.
- This removes +5v from pin 10 of the TCM3105JL chip.3 - Short pin
- 10 to ground.4 - Remove R12 and R16. These are 10K resistors
- that are not what should have been used in the first place.
- Replace these resistors with a 50K or 100K trimmer pot. One end
- of the pot goes into the hole that R12 ocupied (+5v) and the
- wiper terminal goes into the other side of R12. This leaves 1
- open. The lead goes to ground. Center the pot at mid point. This
- is a good place to start.5 - If you wish you can place back to
- back 1N914 signal diodes across R17. This will prevent the
- voltage from the speaker (data) to exceed .6v so as to protect
- the TCM3105JL chip.6 - Tune up is simple! Connect up to computer
- and activate Baycom. You will find that instead of the low LED
- on, the HIGH LED is on, don't worry. Listen for a WEAK digital
- signal, less than 1 S unit and turn the new pot you have
- installed ever so slightly either way. The data will start to
- flow in and show on your screen.I have found that excessive
- audio now is NOT needed. Turn the volume upjust enough to make
- both the LED's wink and blink. Too much audio andthe data gets
- distorted. I found that the modification worked GREAT forme. I
- am about a half air mile from our club PBBS and no matter whereI
- had the audio set or the amount of power I used I could not get
- aCLEAN connect. Well I do now in one request. The problem I
- found wasthat the +5v regulator was not staying even close to
- +5v. It had gonedown to less than +1v during some data input.
- The replacng of R12 andR16 to a larger value presented less load
- and the removal of JMP7lightened the load. R12 and R16 are bias
- resistors for the modem chipalso. With the value being
- adjustable now you can FINE tune the chipfor optimum proformance
- and keep the +5v line above +4.5v...Frank Holden - KA3UWW???
- "The Radio Doctor" ???frank%xcntrk@relay.sgi.comLook out folks
- the "GRAY JELLO" is melting!------------------------------Date:
- 22 Oct 92 11:58:07 CDTFrom:
- sdcrsi!equalizer!timbuk.cray.com!walter.cray.com!sedist!jwl@netwo
- rk.UCSD.EDUSubject: How to get started in packetTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduI'll start the answer, but others may have
- to fill in parts. No flames, please.I am not trying to describe
- all possible senarios, just common ones and I mightmake a
- mistake or two at that.In article
- <1992Oct20.170311.8596@newstand.syr.edu>,
- demarsee@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darryl E. Marsee) writes:|>
- Greetings.|> |> I checked the FAQ and Pete's (KA3RFE) packet
- guide, but I still have|> some questions:|> |> 1) I have a Radio
- Shack Model 100 and a Yaseu FT411E that I want to|> use for a
- portable packet station. I figured out that I need a|> TNC
- and connector cables to hook them together, but it's not clear|>
- to me whether I need special software for the M100 to make it
- all|> work. Do I? And if so, where do I find it?If I
- remember the Model 100, it has a com port and a built in
- communications package.If my memory is correct, then that is all
- you need in the way of software. Anythingthat looks like a dumb
- terminal (or smarter) will work. Of course, there is a lot you
- can do with a software package designed for packet work that
- compliments/extendsthe capabilities of the TNC.|> |> 2) Once I
- get the necessary parts together and working, how do I figure|>
- out how to send mail via all those digipeter/nodes/gateways?
- Do I|> just post mail to my own PBBS, or do I connect to some
- other BBS and|> tell it about my own PBBS, or what? Just how
- do you find out all theNormally you will send mail addressed to
- someone at somewhere. It works a lotlike the normal net mail in
- that the someone is separated from the somewhere by the @ sign.
- E. G. k4gvo@wd4elj.va.us (Or is it usa?) You don't have to
- knowthe route it takes normally. If you just post to his call
- only on your own BBS it willprobably just hang around there
- waiting for that person (station) to login andpick it up.|>
- info you need to mail from point a to point b? Someone around
- here|> told me that the local "lan" was on 145.05, but there
- was no gateway|> to the "trunk" on 145.01 ... does that mean
- there is no way for|> me to send mail out of my local
- "lan"?Not enough info here to tell. Ask the direct question,
- "If I send a message to someone in Podunk, Iowa, from this lan
- will it get there?". If the lan is truelylocal only, then the
- answer will be "no". If the lan has some connection with other
- networks then the answer will be "yes". The "trunk" on 145.01
- may not be theonly way to get data out of the lan. (By the way,
- lan means "local area network" solocal lan sounds funny, but is
- not as bad as "best 73's" 8^) )|> |> 3) Is there any
- store-and-forward capability in the packet network, or|> is
- it only point-to-point? I'm not planning on leaving this
- thing|> on 24 hours a day ... will someone only be able to
- send me something|> if my station (and all other necessary
- ones in between) are up and|> running?There is a lot of
- storage on the network. It is almost like the normal phone
- linebbs services or the Uni* e-mail. You don't have to be
- logged on at the time the messageis sent. In the worst case it
- may take several days for a message to "hop" accrossthe country
- and spend a few hours on many computers in transit. It will
- remain at thebbs (wd4elj in the above example) until you read
- and kill it, the sysop gets tired ofseeing it or some automated
- function of the bbs deletes it after N days.Note: No one will
- send you anything unless you are running a BBS yourself (and the
- otherBBS's know to do so) or you log into a BBS and request the
- message so leaving your equipment on 24 hours a day won't do
- much for you unless the other party is on thesame lan and wants
- to just connect to you and dump a message to you (or your
- mailbox ifyour TNC has one, but that is a different
- subject).Your radio, computer and TNC act a lot like a terminal
- and modem tied to a phone line.When you "connect" using your TNC
- and radio to a BBS you are doing the same thing asdialing your
- modem and hooking to a BBS via the phone. The "look and feel"
- ofthe packet BBS's is different (simpler) from the phone BBS's,
- but perform similarfunctions. Like phone BBS's there are a
- number of varieties of packet BBS's, butmost of them will give
- you some help with the keyword "help" the letter "h" or a
- question mark.|> |> Sorry for all the questions, but the book I
- read on "how to get started|> in packet" didn't really explain
- how to do packet very well for a complete|> novice (well, tech
- actually ... whenever my license gets here ... and yes,|> I'm
- studying the code for my general upgrade).|> |> Many Thanks &
- Regards,|> |> Darryl Marsee|> demarsee@mailbox.syr.eduI hope I
- have not misunderstood what you have asked, but if so please
- drop mea note and I'll see if I can help.73 and good
- luck...Jim.--
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
- -------Jim Lynch, Sales Analyst, Cray Research, Inc. / ARS:
- K4GVOSoutheast District, Phone: (404) 631-2254, Email:
- jwl@sedist.cray.comSuite 270, 200 Westpark Drive, Peachtree
- City, GA 30269------------------------------Date: 22 Oct 1992
- 15:57:42 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: TAPR
- packetRADIOTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduwpns@pictel.com (Willie
- Smith) writes:>In article
- <1992Oct16.124356.25302@sbcs.sunysb.edu> rick@cs.sunysb.edu
- (Richard Spanbauer) writes:>>What ever became of the TAPR
- packetRADIO project described in the 8th>>CNC pg 108-113?>>Not
- much of late. They almost had it working, but then the
- volunteers>(note that word) got off onto other projects and it
- was never>finished. Last I heard they were hoping someone would
- volunteer>(there's that word again) to finish it off. I vaguely
- recollect that>the logic was working but it needed some work in
- the RF section.>>Willie Smith>wpns@pictel.comThat is correct as
- to the status of about a year ago. The TAPR Board of Directors
- officially killed the project in March, 1992. The digital part
- ended up as the basis of the TAPR 9600 bps modem
- kit.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
- Bob Nielsen W6SWE Internet: rnielsen@tapr.ampr.org ++
- ax.25: w6swe@wb7tpy.az.usa.na ++ Tucson, Arizona
- amateur IP: 44.124.12.16 ++
- CIS: 71540,2364
- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
- -----------------------Date: 22 Oct 1992 15:57:45 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Telemetry radio networkTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edumachen@eurecom.fr (Roland Machenbaum)
- writes:>I am working on a project which consist of building a
- seismograph> radio network for volcanoes monitoring. >I am
- thinking of a solution similar to the Amateur Packet Radio
- network.>>The bit rate should be of 9600 bit/s or higher to
- insure continuous>measurements during high seismic
- activities.>The traditional 9600 bit/s phone modems use QAM
- modulation. This >modulation doesn't seem adequate in radio
- communication because of >the amplitude sensibility of the
- modulated signal. So I will>need a modem using FSK or PSK
- modulation, this will increase the> bandwith of the signal.
- >>Most transceiver are designed for voice transmission and have
- a 3kHz>bandwith. My transceiver must have a wider bandwith (20
- kHz if FSK >modulation is used at 10 kbit/s).> >Does anyone
- knows what kind of modem and what>kind of transceiver suits my
- application ? Modems for 9600 bps FSK operation have been used
- in Amateur Radio applications for several years. Papers have
- been presented at the ARRL Amateur Radio Computer Networking
- Conferences by Steve Goode, K9NG, and later by James Miller,
- G3RUH, on modem design, with some discussion of the radio
- requirements. The radio must not have any pre- or de-emphasis.
- Most amateurs have modified "normal" f.m. radios for this
- purpose, although there are some "data radios" being made which
- do not require modification. Some of these have been reported
- to be marginal inperformance for amateur radio
- applications.Sources of modems and data radios include:PacComm
- Packet Radio Systems (European rep) Europdata Systems, 4413
- N. Hesperides Street Dr. Van De Perrelei,
- 92Tampa, FL 33614 2140
- Borgerhout, Belgium1-813-874-2980
- 32-3-235-71451-813-872-8696 FAX
- 32-3-271-1221 FAXandKantronics1202 E. 23rd StreetLawrence, KS
- 660461-913-842-77451-913-842-2021 FAXMy organization, Tucson
- Amateur Packet Radio, supplies a 9600 bps modem in kit form. We
- will be glad to send you information upon
- request.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
- + Bob Nielsen W6SWE Internet: rnielsen@tapr.ampr.org ++
- ax.25: w6swe@wb7tpy.az.usa.na ++ Tucson,
- Arizona amateur IP: 44.124.12.16 ++
- CIS: 71540,2364
- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
- -----------------------Date: 22 Oct 1992 12:43:44 -0700From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: TH-77A & packetTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edu>I'd like to hear from anyone who's had
- success working the Kenwood TH-77AMe
- too!Dandcc.wbst129@xerox.com-----------------------------Dat
-
- e: Thu, 22 Oct 1992 15:32:11 GMTFrom:
- usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.cso.u
- iuc.edu!atropa!berger@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: TNC-2 firmwareTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edurnielsen@tapr.ampr.ORG (Bob Nielsen)
- writes:>The VERY latest version is 1.1.8a. The only difference
- from 1.1.8 is >that there was a patch to KISS which only would
- affect satellite users. >The firmware is on CompuServe and the
- WA6RDH BBS, plus available from the >TAPR office (P. O. Box
- 12925, Tucson, AZ 85749) Programmed EPROM plus a >100 page
- command booklet is $12.00, postage included.>I don't know why
- there would be a problem in a TNC-200. Have you >upgraded to
- 32K memory?*----No - my TNC-200 is all original. What do I have
- to do to augment thememory? Lights come on with the new ROM, so
- SOMETHING is executing.It could definitely be a memory
- problem.Not that $ 12.00 is a big problem, but I already have a
- PROM programmed(from code found on the network, dunno if it's
- 1.1.8a or not) and ifI need to augment the memory, buying the
- TAPR prom won't help anyway.-- Mike Berger Department of
- Statistics, University of Illinois AT&TNET
- 217-244-6067 Internet
- berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu------------------------------Date:
- Thu, 22 Oct 1992 15:02:32 GMTFrom:
- dog.ee.lbl.gov!news!avalon.nwc.navy.mil!usenet@network.UCSD.EDUSu
- bject: X-1G and KISS pass-thru...To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduHello
- all!I'm interested in running TheNet X-1G with the RS-232 port
- in mode 2,that is, so that the radio and the KISS application
- off the RS-232 portcan share the radio.My TNC is inside a
- rack-mount box, and the only 2 wires going out arepins 2 and 3.
- Do I need to hook up 4, 5, 6, and 20 as well (for
- hardwarehandshaking)?Anyone out there trying this
- out?jan.------------------------------End of Packet-Radio Digest
- V92 #288******************************Date: Sat, 24 Oct 92
- 04:30:03 PDTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
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- Digest V92 #289To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Sat,
- 24 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 289Today's Topics:
- Ethernet device for... (2 msgs)
- help PacComm TINY-2 and Direct FM Modem
- (9600) Problems I _had_ with TCM3105
- rsgb gb2rs news 25th october
- subscripbe rec.radio.amatuer.packet TCM3105
- modem adjustments WANTED: Information on
- PACTORSend Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: 23 Oct 92 13:29:07 GMTFrom:
- usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!spool.mu.edu!umn.ed
- u!noc.msc.net!uc.msc.edu!shamash!timbuk.cray.com!walter.cray.com!
- sedist!jwl@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Ethernet device for...To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article <91e3sB1w165w@micro-c.mcds.com>,
- speers@micro-c.mcds.com (Daniel E. Speers) writes:|> I have a
- unix system (intel based) running on an Ethernet|> network.
- Being new to all this, I may sound a bit, well, new.|> So, what
- I'd like to do is get packet radio by either putting|> something
- on the ethernet, or via an add in card or something|> like
- that.|> I would appreciate any suggestions on how best to do
- this|> AND even better would suggestions on where I can get
- such|> equipment.|> The unix I use is USL System V Rel 4.
- TCP/ip over the|> Ethernet. |> |> Best respond to
- speers@zenia.mcds.com THANKS!|> |> |> Dan Speers
- (speers@micro-c.mcds.com)(Stuff
- deleted here)Well, Dan, I don't see a call anywhere so can I
- assume you aren't a licensedradio amateur?The first thing to do
- if that is true, is get a license. Then you willneed a TNC and
- a radio. Since you have a computer the simplest way for youto
- get on packet would be to hook a TNC to the serial port on your
- computer.Use kermit or any other communications program you have
- avaliable on yourUnix system to access the TNC. I don't know of
- anything availablethat bridges from ethernet to packet (simple,
- that is).You will most likely be disappointed in the speed of
- packet communications withspeeds of most networks in the
- 1200-2400 baud range and with lots of stationssharing a single
- channel, the effective rate is somewhat less than 50 characters
- per second on a moderately busy channel. I say this knowing
- that you are probablyused to the speeds found on ethernet
- networks.With that said, try it out, it can be fun.73,Jim.--
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
- -------Jim Lynch, Sales Analyst, Cray Research, Inc. / ARS:
- K4GVOSoutheast District, Phone: (404) 631-2254, Email:
- jwl@sedist.cray.comSuite 270, 200 Westpark Drive, Peachtree
- City, GA 30269------------------------------Date: Sat, 24 Oct
- 1992 05:54:16 GMTFrom:
- gumby!wupost!crcnis1.unl.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!mimbres.cs.unm.edu!c
- onstellation!osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu!olesun!gcouger@yale.arpaSubje
- ct: Ethernet device for...To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1992Oct23.082908.6591@walter.cray.com> jwl@sedist.cray.com (Jim
- Lynch) writes:>In article <91e3sB1w165w@micro-c.mcds.com>,
- speers@micro-c.mcds.com (Daniel E. Speers) writes:>|> I have a
- unix system (intel based) running on an Ethernet>|> network.
- Being new to all this, I may sound a bit, well, new.>|> So, what
- I'd like to do is get packet radio by either putting>|>
- something on the ethernet, or via an add in card or something>|>
- like that.>|> I would appreciate any suggestions on how best
- to do thisI need to extend an either net about 400 yards by
- radio link. Iam thinking of using wide band fm in the 10 GigiHz
- range and tryingto hook the either net direct to the either net
- no protocall change.I would welcome oppinions and
- experiances.thanksGordon CougerAB5Dg Agriculture Engineering
- Oklahoma State Universitygcouger@olesun.agen.okstate.edu
- 405-744-6514 day 744-2794 evenings
- ------------------------------Date: 23 Oct 1992 20:34:34
- -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: helpTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduhelp------------------------------Date: 23
- Oct 1992 09:26:06 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject:
- PacComm TINY-2 and Direct FM Modem (9600)To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduWanted: Owners of late release PacComm
- Direct FM Modems to discussmodifications and problems associated
- with this product.I have found some serious design flaws and
- would like to correspond withothers (directly please) so we can
- share modifications.--
- _________________________________________________________________
- ___Dan Roman | /// Internet:
- roman@tix.timeplex.comAscom Timeplex Inc. | \\\///
- GEnie: D.ROMAN1Woodcliff Lake, NJ | \XX/ Only AMIGA!
- Homebrew is better
- brew.============================================================
- ========------------------------------Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992
- 04:01:26 GMTFrom: brit@athena.mit.eduSubject: Problems I _had_
- with TCM3105To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduA couple of people asked me
- what was actually wrong with the modem,I apologize for having
- taken so long to post this, but here it is.I had posted about
- problems with a BayCom-type modem, the TCM3105.Basically the
- computer wasn't receiving anything. I got theschematics via ftp
- from Simtel20 (many other ftp sites have thesame file), the
- filename is "tcm3105.zip" which contains "tcm3105.ps"this is a
- PostScript file of the schematics, and "tcm3105.txt" whichis the
- parts list.This is an old copy of the schematics and was
- corrected over a yearago, but it seems there are still old
- versions around the net.The problem was: on the schematics two
- resistors are labled "R2", onegoes to the computer's CTS pin,
- which receives the decoded data fromthe modem, and the other R2
- is connected to the computer's RTS pin, thisactivates the PTT on
- the radio. I first tried putting 100Kohm resistorson both, but
- this was too high a resistance for the computer to readanything
- on the CTS pin (decoded data TO computer), therefore it seemedas
- though nothing was being received.I believe the correct
- resistance for the resistor to CTS is 2.2Kohm,this works fine
- for me. The resistance to the PTT line can be 100Kohm.Even
- though the authors already corrected this quite a while ago,
- someof you might still run into this version, the schematics are
- datedApril 4, 1991.Hope this helped,
- 73,BritKB4ZBP/KTbrit@athena.mit.edu------------------------------
- Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992 07:09:29 +0000From:
- pipex!demon!tedb.demon.co.uk!ted@uunet.uu.netSubject: rsgb gb2rs
- news 25th octoberTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduGood morning. It's
- Sunday the 25th of October and here is the GB2RS newsbroadcast,
- prepared by the Radio Society of Great Britain.First the
- headlines:- The RSGB's Annual Report has been published,
- togetherwith details of the forthcoming RSGB Council elections;
- and the City andGuilds report record successes in the Spring RAE
- and NRAE.The November edition of Radio Communication was posted
- to all RSGB memberslast week. Enclosed with it is the Society's
- Annual Report which includesCouncil Election candidates'
- statements, the ballot form, a proxy form forparticipation in
- the Annual General Meeting, and a reply-paid envelope. Anymember
- who has received his RadCom but not the Annual Report should
- contactJustine Hodges at RSGB Headquarters. Members' attention
- is also drawn to thenotice on page 6 of the November RadCom
- which details the arrangements forthis year's Annual Meeting of
- the Society.We are sorry to have to report the death last week
- of Francis Rose, G2DRT. MrRose was an RSGB Council member until
- last December and had been nominated asa candidate in the
- forthcoming Council election.The City and Guilds of London
- Institute has published its report on the JuneNovice Radio
- Amateurs Examination. It shows that a record number of
- candidates- 369 - sat the exam. City and Guilds attribute the
- 74% pass rate and highstandard of candidates to the RSGB's "well
- organised training schemes and thestandard of instruction and
- guidance given". Another City and Guilds report,this time on the
- May Radio Amateurs Examination, mentions a pass rate of over81%
- which is the highest for several years. It goes on to say that
- "mostcandidates had an excellent understanding" of EMC. The
- report also expresses ahope that future candidates will gain
- more practical experience before sittingthe exam.Following
- successful tests of the RSGB's new propagation data beacon,
- callsignGAM1, it has been necessary to apply for a new frequency
- for reasons ofinternational cooperation. The proposed
- alternative of 3.821MHz {note tonewsreaders - this really is
- outside the 80m band} has already been cleared byall the UK
- agencies but international approval is still awaited.Now some
- items of HF DX news from the weekly RSGB DX News Sheet which
- isedited by Brendan McCartney, G4DYO. From Grenada, K8CV, NY8E
- and WA8LOW willbe active respectively as J37C, J37E and J37L
- from now until Tuesday the 27thof October. From Minami
- Torishima, JK1ABP will be active from now untilJanuary 1993 on
- all Bands using SSB, CW and Packet. JK1ABP will signJA9IPX/JD1
- on the normal HF bands but JK1ABP/JD1 on the WARC bands.
- FromEaster Island, SM0AGD, SM0OTG and LA7XB will sign
- own-call/CE0Y from Wednesdaythe 28th of October to Thursday the
- 5th of November, on CW on the WARC and LFbands. From Faeroe
- Islands, G4XRV will be active as OY/G4XRV from Sunday the1st
- until Thursday the 5th of November, using mainly CW on the 10,
- 15, 20, 30,40 and 80 metres bands. From Cocos Island, the call
- sign TI9JJP will be airedby TI2JJP and possible others, from
- Sunday the 1st to Wednesday the 11th ofNovember.Rally news now,
- and we know of no rally today, Sunday the 25th, but there aretwo
- rallies scheduled for next weekend: The North Wales Radio Rally
- andElectronics Fair will be held at the Aberconwy Conference and
- ExhibitionCentre, Llandudno, on Saturday the 31st of October,
- and Sunday the 1st ofNovember. Doors open at 11.00 am. There
- will be many stands including, an RSGBBook stall, club stands
- and a bring and buy stall. Refreshments will beavailable as will
- ample free parking space. Talk-in is to be on channels S22and
- SU8. See October's RadCom page 62 for more information. Further
- detailscan be obtained from GW7EXH, by telephoning 0745 591704.
- The North Devon Rallywill be held at the Holsworthy Memorial
- Hall, Holsworthy, North Devon, onSunday the 1st of November.
- Doors open at 10.30 am. Further details from G8MXIwhose address
- is correct in the RSGB Call Book.Next some dates for your 1993
- diary:The RSGB VHF Convention will be held on Saturday, the 6th
- of March, the RSGBNational Rally at Woburn is scheduled for
- Sunday the 1st of August, and theSociety's National Exhibition
- will be at the NEC Birmingham on Sunday the 16thof May.Contest
- news now:The November edition of RadCom which has been posted to
- all RSGB memberscontains the full results of HF National Field
- Day plus a full band-by-bandreport. This weekend, the CQ
- World-wide DX SSB Contest is taking place. Itstarted at 0000
- yesterday and finishes at 2400 today, Sunday the 25th. Allbands
- 160 to 10 metres will be used, excluding the WARC bands. See
- OctoberRadCom page 19 for brief information. Another in the
- RSGB's 432MHz Cumulativecontest series takes place next Thursday
- the 29th of October. It runs from1930 to 2200GMT. also, the
- second of the RSGB's 1296MHz Fixed and SWL Contesttakes place on
- Sunday the 1st of November, from 1600 to 2000GMT. For
- furtherdetails on either of these events, see June RadCom page
- 65.Special events this week include GB2KSS which operates from
- tomorrow, Mondaythe 26th, to Friday the 30th of October. Five
- members of the Yeovil AmateurClub will be bringing amateur radio
- to a group of 14 year olds at the KilveCourt Space Science
- Course near Bridgewater in Somerset. The Special EventStation
- will be on HF and VHF during this course to give some of
- theyoungsters hands on experience of amateur radio. A special
- feature of thecourse will be demonstrations of Slow Scan
- Television.And now the solar factual data:The period 12th to
- 18th October has seen very unsettled geomagnetic conditionswith
- a minor storm commencing on the 14th. The HF bands have been
- below orjust about average with no flares reported. Sun spot
- counts meaned about the80s but tended to increase during the
- period. Solar flux levels averaged 105units, slightly down on
- last week. The geomagnetic Ap indices averaged 23units but were
- up to a sub-storm level of 31 on the 15th, and were
- veryunsettled throughout the period. The state has been nil,
- nothing to report,all the period. The radio quality indices
- varied from poor to just normal withthe best periods being on
- the 13th and 18th. The aa indices, as reported bythe British
- Geological Survey for the period 6th to 12th October, gave a
- dailyaverage of 28.7 nanoTeslas but varied from quiet levels on
- the 6th up to veryunsettled by the 12th. One period reached 102
- nanoTeslas.Now the ionospheric data for England and Wales:The F2
- daytime critical frequencies at Slough, as reported by
- Appleton,averaged 8.8MHz but varied from 6.1MHz on the 12th up
- to 10.4MHz by the 17th.The darkness hour lows averaged 2.2MHz
- but have not varied much day to day.The minima are now around
- 05.00 hours, and the maxima 12.00 hours.Now the ionospheric data
- for the North:The F2 daytime critical frequencies at Sverdlodvsk
- averaged 7.7MHz and thedarkness hour lows 3.0MHz. Solar cycle 22
- is now declining very rapidly. Solarrotation 1860 has just been
- completed and produced 21 type M flares and no Xtype, whereas
- rotation 1846 this time last year gave 33 M and 3 X flares.And
- lastly the solar forecast:This week, the quiet side of the sun
- will be rotating away, there are somecoronal holes on the disc
- and these may cause the geomagnetic field to be veryunsettled at
- the beginning of the week. Solar flux levels are expected to
- beabout the 110s. MUFs on north/south paths during day time are
- expected toreach 30MHz, and the darkness hour lows 18MHz.
- East/west paths should be bestaround midnight on 10 or 14MHz.And
- that is the end of the solar information.Finally in the main
- news, the licence issuing agency, SSL, has informed theSociety
- that as of last Wednesday morning, the latest callsigns issued
- were inthe G0 S O and G7 N U series, and Novice calls in the 2 0
- A D and2 1 B D series.You're listening to GB2RS, the news
- broadcasting service of the Radio Societyof Great Britain,
- transmitting in the 80, 40, 6 and 2 metre
- bands.------------------------------Date: 23 Oct 1992 20:31:38
- -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: subscripbe
- rec.radio.amatuer.packetTo: packet-radio@ucsd.edusubscribe
- rec.radio.amatuer.packet
- paulfs.pan.com------------------------------Date: Fri, 23 Oct
- 1992 18:30:42 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!crcnis1.unl.edu
- !news.unomaha.edu!cwis.unomaha.edu!rerickso@network.UCSD.EDUSubje
- ct: TCM3105 modem adjustmentsTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduPut a
- frequency counter on it and see what that does.I do not have a
- schematic of what you are working withso I can not diagnose it
- from here. It sounds likea voltage level adjustment. What does
- the pinout sayon the schematic? I have the 7911 cousin circuit
- whichoperates on a similar principle, but I am not sure
- howsimilar it is.Sincerely,Ronald
- EricksonAK0N------------------------------Date: 23 Oct 1992
- 10:56:00 -0700From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: WANTED:
- Information on PACTORTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduA little while ago
- information was sent on PACTOR. Does anyone know wherea copy of
- it is stored?? I tried all the usual places and don't want
- towade through all of the archives of these lists.Thanks in
- advance,Wayne.-------------------------<schellekensw@wl.aecl.ca>-
- ----------------------------Wayne Schellekens, VE4WTS
- .......Spock, attempting to build an interface to812 Moncton Ave
- his tri-corder out of 1930's radio parts: "I'm
- WINNIPEG, Manitoba attempting to build a mnemonic memory
- cell out ofCanada R2K 1Y5 stone knives and bear
- skins."----------------------------------------------------------
- ---------------------------------------------------End of
- Packet-Radio Digest V92 #289******************************Date:
- Sun, 25 Oct 92 04:30:02 PSTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and
- Newsgroup <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #290To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Sun,
- 25 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 290Today's Topics:
- Ethernet device for... Is
- there a vty.h?Send Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: 25 Oct 92 04:23:43 GMTFrom:
- dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columb
- ia.edu!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Ethernet
- device for...To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <91e3sB1w165w@micro-c.mcds.com> speers@micro-c.mcds.com (Daniel
- E. Speers) writes:> I have a unix system (intel based) running
- on an Ethernet>network. Being new to all this, I may sound a
- bit, well, new.>So, what I'd like to do is get packet radio by
- either putting>something on the ethernet, or via an add in card
- or something>like that.> I would appreciate any suggestions on
- how best to do this>AND even better would suggestions on where I
- can get such>equipment.> The unix I use is USL System V Rel 4.
- TCP/ip over the>Ethernet. There are three approaches that will
- get your system on packet.The simplest method is to attach a TNC
- and radio to a serialport on the system and run KA9Q for Unix.
- This will give youTCP/IP at 1200, 2400, or 9600 baud depending
- on the modem inthe TNC. Interfacing the KA9Q code to your native
- Unix is leftas an exercise to the reader. :-) It can be done as
- a user process with pty loopback. A second and higher
- performance method is to install an Ottawa PIcard, or Gracilis
- card in the Intel box and write a device driverunder Unix for
- it. This will allow you to attach a 56 kbs modemto the system.
- Layering AX25 under your native TCP/IP is leftas an exercise to
- the reader. :-( I haven't heard of anyone whohas successfully
- done this with Lachmann TCP/IP. It will haveto be a kernel
- process.Probably the easiest and best method is to scrounge a
- DOS PC andput it on the ethernet. Install a PI card and the KA9Q
- softwarewith Clarkson drivers for your ethernet card and the PI
- card.Now the PC will act as a transparent gateway between your
- TCP/IPon your Unix box and the 56 kbs high speed packet modem
- attachedto the PI card. This uses a bit more hardware, but is
- off the shelfplug and play.Gary
- KE4ZV------------------------------Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992
- 13:47:34 GMTFrom:
- usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!buster!jpunix!perry@n
- etwork.UCSD.EDUSubject: Is there a vty.h?To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduI am trying to compile the 920528 version
- of the KA9Q TCPIP softwarefor packet radio under the SCO ODT 2.0
- operating system. The veryfirst file, n8250.c, calls for a file
- called sys/vty.h. My system doesnot seem to have this. Is it
- available? Where can I get it? Is itshort enough for someone to
- mail it to me?Also, is there a decent tcpip/packet package that
- will compile underSCO ODT 2.0? I would like to run a TCPIP-based
- packet BBS that has asmuch functionality as possible. Please
- reply toperry@leopold.jpunix.com. Thank you in advance.John
- Perry - KG5RG-- John A. Perry - perry@jpunix.com
- jpunix!perry------------------------------Date: 25 Oct 1992
- 02:05:23 -0600From:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!nemesis.ksu.ksu
- .edu!news@network.UCSD.EDUTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduReferences
- <81482@ut-emx.uucp>, <14580038@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>,
- <11231@platypus.uofs.uofs.edu>ksu.eduReply-To :
- steve@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Schallehn)Subject : Re: Kantronics
- KPC-1?bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:>I have
- a KPC-2 that has run continuously 24 hours a day, 365 days a
- year>for over 5 years. Never had a failure and never locked up
- in transmit.Finally, someone who concurs with me! :-)I tried to
- do some research on the subject of Kantronics TNC's having
- awatchdog timer. I discovered that Kantronics does sell a
- watchdogtimer for the KPC-1, KPC-2, KPC-4, and the KAM for $15.I
- also found that the KPC-3 (Mini-TNC) and the Data Engine do
- havewatchdog timers. -Steve Schallehn KB0AGD Kansas State
- University------------------------------End of Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #290******************************Date: Mon, 26 Oct
- 92 04:30:03 PSTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #291To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Mon,
- 26 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 291Today's Topics:
- FTP SITESend Replies or notes for publication
- to: <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: 25 Oct 92 23:50:43 CSTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupo
- st!tulane!agwbbs!Angelo_Glorioso_Iii@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- FTP SITETo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduHI ALL, I am looking for a FTP
- Sites for the ROSE 3.1 software.. Thanks in Advance-- Via DLG
- Pro v0.995Internet:angelo_glorioso_III@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US
- Usenet:rex!agwbbs!angelo_glorioso_III Packet:N5UXT @
- N5UXT.#NOLA.LA.USA.NA Tcp/ip:N5UXT.AMPT.ORG
- [44.108.2.13]------------------------------End of Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #291******************************Date: Tue, 27 Oct
- 92 04:30:03 PSTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #292To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Tue,
- 27 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 292Today's Topics:
- Newcomer (2 msgs) NNTP
- help please! Seeking E-Mail Address for KE4ZV
- [eom] SSTV and FAX for the Macintosh?
- TH-77A & packetSend Replies or notes for
- publication to: <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription
- requests to: <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't
- solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1992 22:52:00 GMTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menu
- do.uh.edu!rosie.uh.edu!st1td@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- NewcomerTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduLet me see if I got this
- straight...To get started in packet radio, I need an amateur
- license, a terminal, a TNC,a modem, and a radio.The terminal
- takes my keystrokes and turns them into a code, let's say
- ASCII.The TNC takes that ASCII and, using some magic, turns it
- into a series of 1'sand 0's, that aren't ASCII.The modem takes
- all those nifty 1's and 0's and turns them into audio
- tones--beeps and boops.The radio takes those beeps and beeps and
- sends them flying out into space.When receiving, the process is
- reversed.Do I have all this straight? I think I do. It also
- seems to me that the TNCcan be either hardware or software, if
- you've got a smart terminal. Now for thebrunt of my question:
- provided I have all the above theory right, and a Commodore-128
- with disk drive that I'd be willing to dedicate to packet,
- whatdo I need to get going? The radio part is easy, but what do
- I need in the lineof TNC/modem/software? Is hardware or
- software TNC better and why? And whatproducts are reccommended
- by you and why?Thanks for helping. I'm interested in packet but
- as you can see have no ideawhere to start. Any tips would be
- appreciated.-Matthew Mucker
- KB5FWG------------------------------Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992
- 04:40:10 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!jmilh
- oan@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: NewcomerTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn
- article <26OCT199216521649@rosie.uh.edu> st1td@rosie.uh.edu
- (Mucker, Matthew R.) writes:>Let me see if I got this
- straight...>>To get started in packet radio, I need an amateur
- license, a terminal, a TNC,>a modem, and a radio.The modem is
- contained within the TNC.>Do I have all this straight? I think
- I do. It also seems to me that the TNC>can be either hardware
- or software, if you've got a smart terminal. Now for the>brunt
- of my question: provided I have all the above theory right, and
- a >Commodore-128 with disk drive that I'd be willing to dedicate
- to packet, what>do I need to get going? The radio part is easy,
- but what do I need in the line>of TNC/modem/software? Is
- hardware or software TNC better and why? And what>products are
- reccommended by you and why?Well, any communication program will
- work. If you are using your C-128 to connect here via modem,
- that is all you need on the computer end. The software to run
- the TNC appropriately is already contained within the hardware
- of the TNC.The "hardware TNCs", as you put it (I dont think that
- is the exact term, but I think we all understand what you mean),
- work just fine. I personally dont see the reason for having the
- code in software form. I'm not saying it is a bad idea, I just
- have had no reason to really look into it because the hardware
- method does everything I need. If anybody else wishes to
- comment on that, please do so. I am interested in hearing why
- some prefer it too. I suppose it is for more advanced
- packeteers to hack around with the code. I really dont know
- why.Also, back to computer software, there are specific packages
- to optimize your use of the TNC with your computer, depending on
- computer and TNC make, of course I don't know much about
- C-128s, but I do remeber seeing software ads for them.Basic
- terminal software will work fine if you want to use AX.25
- protocol packet, but if you want to run TCP/IT, you will need
- specific TCP/IP software to do this. Others know more about
- this than I do.Basically you need:1. An amateur radio license2.
- A terminal or computer (with software to make it dumb :)3. A
- radio (depends on what band you want to operate in)4. A TNC5.
- and an antenna. A lot of people don't place enough emphasis on
- the antenna, but it is a very important aspect of your
- station.Hope that helps,JT
- N8PUY------------------------------Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992
- 02:57:44 GMTFrom:
- usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!m
- ixcom.com!Glenn.Butzlaff@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: NNTP help
- please!To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduDear interested reader,I am
- currently running ka9q nos modified by YC1DAV to include the
- NNTP server.While everything appears to run just dandy here, and
- other nos switchespoll and receive the newsgroups properly,
- there is still one thing thatremains a mystery. How does the
- client read the news? I have seen referenceto NNTP groups being
- read by BM, but I als have seen reference to news readers.I am
- not on the Internet directly, and get current tcpgroup and
- Usenetfrom a local bbs. I manually manipulate the newsgroups
- intp the proper dirsand really only offer a read only NNTP
- service. If any of you NOS gurushave any tips, please email
- them. Thanks in
- advance...Glenn.Glenn.Butzlaff@mixcom.comwe9k@wb9tyt.#mke.wi.usa.
- noam-- ------------------------------Date: 26 Oct 1992
- 07:28:35 -0800From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: Seeking
- E-Mail Address for KE4ZV [eom]To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edu------------------------------Date: 26 Oct
- 1992 16:15:31 -0800From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: SSTV
- and FAX for the Macintosh?To: packet-radio@ucsd.edu Hello all,I
- am asking this for a friend of mine...Does anyone know of SSTV
- and FAX applications for the Macintosh?Regards,Adam van Gaalen (
- adam@igg.tno.nl) or
- (pa2aga@igg.tno.nl)------------------------------Date: Mon, 26
- Oct 92 09:54:05 PSTFrom:
- sdd.hp.com!hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvnb!notes@network.UCSD.EDUSubject:
- TH-77A & packetTo: packet-radio@ucsd.edu Maybe I can help - I
- use my 77 for packet with no problems. What do you need help
- with?Rich LovinN7VIY------------------------------End of
- Packet-Radio Digest V92 #292******************************Date:
- Wed, 28 Oct 92 04:30:03 PSTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and
- Newsgroup <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #293To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Wed,
- 28 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 293Today's Topics:
- <None> How can I do to be on
- your mailing list? How to hook Standard C168A
- to TNCs Newcomer (2 msgs)
- Ramsey 2M & 9600 baud packet SSTV and
- FAX for the Macintosh? TNC-2 Firmware
- Using an Alinco 580T on packet.Send Replies or
- notes for publication to: <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send
- subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 21:36:25 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!lina
- c!newsaintmail@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: <None>To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduHopefully I'll get my license soon; I'm
- taking the test in about 24 hours! Oneaspect I'm interested in
- is packet, hence the post here. I have a PC, but Iwould really
- like to use my PDP-11 for packet access; I may even
- considerturning it into a BBS if I *really* get into it.I
- understand the packet code is written in C, so I need to get
- hold of thesource, so I can do the necessary porting. What
- other pitfalls can I expect?BTW, before anyone asks, my reason
- for wanting to use the PDP-11 is geographic.My PC is located
- upstairs, and my "shack" will be located in the basement,
- wherethe PDP-11 is.Mark Levy (This space reserved for
- callsign)Fermilab------------------------------Date: 28 Oct 1992
- 02:55:45 -0800From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: How can I
- do to be on your mailing list?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduHi!Please
- put my name on the mailing list!And could you please help me and
- give me your opinion related to the followingarticle that you
- can find in reprint form?Regards,jbc--Jean-Bernard CONDAT
- (General Secretary)------Chaos Computer Club France [CCCF]B.P.
- 8005, 69351 Lyon Cedex 08// France //43 rue des Rosiers, 93400
- Saint-OuenPhone: +33 1 40101775, Fax.: +33 1 40101764, Hacker's
- BBS (8x): +33 1
- 40102223=========================================================
- =====================------------------------------Date: Tue, 27
- Oct 1992 20:29:25 GMTFrom: digex.com!og@uunet.uu.netSubject: How
- to hook Standard C168A to TNCsTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduAs the
- subject says, I have a Standard C168A that I want to hook to a
- TNC.Any suggestions? - Gary (It will probably be a MFJ 1270B or
- 1278T)-- - Gary Goldberg og@access.digex.com Bowie, MD KA3ZYWAnd
- NO organization to represent. ' ... Free, free at last ...'Info
- on 'The Simpsons'? Let me
- know.------------------------------Date: 27 Oct 92 15:00:42
- GMTFrom:
- usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!emory!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary@netw
- ork.UCSD.EDUSubject: NewcomerTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <26OCT199216521649@rosie.uh.edu> st1td@rosie.uh.edu (Mucker,
- Matthew R.) writes:>Let me see if I got this straight...>>To get
- started in packet radio, I need an amateur license, a terminal,
- a TNC,>a modem, and a radio.Well you certainly need the license.
- A terminal, TNC, modem (low speed onesare usually built into the
- TNC), and a radio is one approach to packet. It'svery limited,
- low speed, and expensive, but it's what many are using. Thereare
- other ways such as direct RF modems and plugin digital interface
- cardsfor systems like the IBM PC clones. >The terminal takes my
- keystrokes and turns them into a code, let's say ASCII.>>The TNC
- takes that ASCII and, using some magic, turns it into a series
- of 1's>and 0's, that aren't ASCII.It turns it into bit stuffed
- HDLC frames with attached packet headers andchecksums. This is
- the thing that allows multiple users on a channel anddetects any
- errors requiring retransmissions.>The modem takes all those
- nifty 1's and 0's and turns them into audio tones-->beeps and
- boops.>The radio takes those beeps and beeps and sends them
- flying out into space.Some modems use AFSK or FSK modulation
- that is equivalent to two shifted tones, one tone for zeros, and
- another for ones. Since the frames are HDLC, it doesn't matter
- which tone is which, only the transistions matter. Other modems
- use different schemes from PSK to QPSK to MSK. These are
- normally used at higher speeds. The modem may operate at audio
- frequencies, thus requiring an expensive radio, or it may
- generate and receive the modulation *directly* at radio
- frequency negating the need for a separate radio, as the GRAPES
- 56kb RF modem does. Voice grade radios simply aren't suitable
- for higher speed packet.>When receiving, the process is
- reversed.>>Do I have all this straight? I think I do. It also
- seems to me that the TNC>can be either hardware or software, if
- you've got a smart terminal. Now for the>brunt of my question:
- provided I have all the above theory right, and a >Commodore-128
- with disk drive that I'd be willing to dedicate to packet,
- what>do I need to get going? The radio part is easy, but what
- do I need in the line>of TNC/modem/software? Is hardware or
- software TNC better and why? And what>products are reccommended
- by you and why?The most common setup uses a hardware TNC,
- usually a copy of the TAPR TNC2,or a multimode hardware box that
- can also do RTTY and AMTOR such as thePK232. I prefer the
- MFJ1270B or the PacComm Tiny 2 since they are copiesof the TAPR
- design and can use the hardware and firmware add ons
- availablefrom third parties for higher speed packet and for
- different operatingmethods such as the KISS mode required for
- TCP/IP. The Commodore 128 is a limiting factor since there is
- very little packet specific software produced for it. Most of
- the newer stuff revolves around the IBM PC clones and the Apple
- Mac, with a bit of Amigia and Unix software available as well.
- Since the 128 will run most of the software for the older
- Commodore C64, some of the programs developed for it may work.
- TCP/IP is out, however, becauseit requires a bit more horsepower
- than the C128 provides. There are DOS,Mac, Amiga, and Unix
- versions of the TCP/IP software available.There are also
- "software" TNCs available for the C64 and the IBM. Theseare very
- limited low speed methods of using your computer to emulate
- thehardware actions of a TNC. I don't know if there is a C128
- specific productout there. Hope this is useful.Gary
- KE4ZV------------------------------Date: Tue, 27 Oct 92 19:24:06
- GMTFrom:
- swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!wupost!micro-heart-o
- f-gold.mit.edu!xn.ll.mit.edu!ll.mit.edu!tcs@network.UCSD.EDUSubje
- ct: NewcomerTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduI need (well Ray needs) to
- know who the IP coordinator is for Maryland?My oldest Ham buddy
- Ray N4GYN is hooked, but needs an IP number.He lives in
- Columbia, MD. Can you help me?Tom--
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
- --------------- /-/-/-/-/ |
- Informal Class Sunday's @ 13:00 EST, /-/-/-/-/
- /---/---/ followed by a N&T VE Session @ 15:00,
- | x | @ Navy Barracks @ Fort
- Devens, Ma. /--/--/ x /---/---/ Second &
- Fourth Mondays of the month. x . --x-- x
- @ Lura A. White School Shirley, Ma. -x |
- x x E-Mail or call 617-981-3474 (Work) x
- | __x x Call in: 145.41, 145.45, 448.625
- Mhz. x_______|_______||x x Ham Radio (Elmer)
- Night @ 19:00 EST / ||x\ / \
- First, Third, (Fifth) Mondays. /-----------------/||x \
- /___ ___\ Thomas C. J. Sefranek WA1RHP | [ ] [ ] ## [ ]|
- ||x | || | | || 112 Great Road Shirley, Ma. 01464 |
- ## | ||x | || | | || Home Phone:
- 508-425-6672-----------------------------------------------------
- ---------------------------------------------------------Date:
- Tue, 27 Oct 1992 21:48:18 GMTFrom:
- fluke!cmdorat@beaver.cs.washington.eduSubject: Ramsey 2M & 9600
- baud packetTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduHi, A couple of friends and
- I are interested in building some ofthe Ramsey 2M radio kits for
- fun and eventual use as 9600 baudpacket stations.We are
- interested in hearing opinions or words to the wize fromany of
- you who have previously built the 2M kit. Also, if anyoneout
- there knows where to get hold of the instructions to modifythem
- for 9600 baud use, I would be forever in your debt. :-)Thanks in
- advance for any help you can
- render!N7RAY(cmdorat@tc.fluke.com)------------------------------D
- ate: 28 Oct 92 05:45:47 GMTFrom:
- data.nas.nasa.gov!taligent!apple!winter@ames.arpaSubject: SSTV
- and FAX for the Macintosh?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <9210261714.AA24077@iggcis1.igg.tno.nl> adam@IGG.TNO.NL
- writes:>>Does anyone know of SSTV and FAX applications for the
- Macintosh?AEA and Kantronics offer facsimile programs for the
- Mac that work withtheir respective TNCs.Patty--
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- :: Patty Winter N6BIS Internet: winter@apple.com
- :: :: Sunnyvale, California AMPRNet: 44.4.0.44
- ::
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- ------------------------------Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 18:25:32
- GMTFrom:
- utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!hobbit.ireq.hydro.qc.ca!nuntius@uun
- et.uu.netSubject: TNC-2 FirmwareTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn
- article <BwDJC4.AGt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Mike Berger,
- berger@atropawrites:>doug@ve6bc.uucp (Douglas MacKintosh, VE6BC)
- writes:>>Can someone tell me what the latest, greatest version
- of firmware forthe>>TNC-2 (ie MFJ-127x) is?>*---->The latest I
- could find is 1.1.8. I wasn't able to get it working in>my
- Pac-Comm TNC-200 though.>--I have 1.1.8 running in a MFJ-1270.
- Do not forget that the later versionsrequire 32k
- ram.--Jean-Marie Houle
- houlejm@ireq.hydro.qc.caInstitut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec
- Tel (514) 652-80831800 Mtee Ste Julie
- Fax (514) 652-8435Varennes, QuebecCanada, J3X
- 1S1------------------------------Date: 27 Oct 1992 07:41 EST
- From:
- dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eagle!l
- ims01.lerc.nasa.gov!lwwald@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: Using an
- Alinco 580T on packet.To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduAnyone using the
- radio on packet, and how do you wire up the connectorif you are
- using it?? I am a little leary of going back to packetwith an
- HT but I may have to consolidate my radio exposure, i. e.,
- toomany radios!!Thank you.Larry, KE8GW
- ------------------------------Date: (null)From: (null)
- MAKING THE NEWS AND BOOKSTANDSThe computer virus
- "threat" is back in the news with a new study by IBMspecialist
- Jeffrey O. Kephart and on the bookstands with a French
- do-it-yourself build-your-own manual on viruses. According to
- Kephart of IBM'sHigh Integrity Computing Laboratory, most
- previous theories on the "socialstructure of computer use and
- networks were faulty": not every machinecould make contact with
- every other machine in one, two or three "steps".Most individual
- computers are not connected to others systems but onlyto their
- nearest neighbors. Therefore, most infections take place not
- throughnetworks, but through the physical exchange of disks.
- Moreover, many of the1,500 known viruses are not good
- replicators and many are not destructive.Even the remaining good
- replicators are "almost all defeated by normalanti-virus
- programs." To advance knowledge such as this concerning
- viruses,*Chaos Computer Club France* (CCCF) has decided to
- publish the French trans-lation of "The Black Book of Computer
- Virus" by Mark Ludwig "which wascensored in the U.S." (French
- title, "C'est decide! J'ecris mon virus,"Editions Eyrolles).
- [...] The book contains "computer codes for writing yourown
- virus," but according to CCCF any such virus can be defeated by
- normalanti-virus programs. Moreover, there is no French law
- forbidding the publi-cation of virus computer codes. The book is
- intended for "responsible adults"and bears the warning
- "Forbidden for readers not 18 years
- old".============================================================
- ==================------------------------------End of
- Packet-Radio Digest V92 #293******************************Date:
- Thu, 29 Oct 92 04:30:02 PSTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and
- Newsgroup <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #294To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Thu,
- 29 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 294Today's Topics:
- Packet to Internet Bridge/GatewaySend Replies or notes for
- publication to: <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription
- requests to: <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't
- solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 17:10:31 GMTFrom:
- swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.ed
- u!udecc.engr.udayton.edu!udcps3!dmapub!apontej@network.UCSD.EDUSu
- bject: Packet to Internet Bridge/GatewayTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIs there any Gateway/Bridges from 2 M
- packet radio to Internet?We would like to implement one and
- would like to benefit from someoneexperiences of having
- implemented or using such a bridge/gateway acrossthese networks.
- So if you know of someone please let me
- known.Jose513-268-5154:wqp------------------------------End of
- Packet-Radio Digest V92 #294******************************Date:
- Fri, 30 Oct 92 04:30:04 PSTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and
- Newsgroup <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #295To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Fri,
- 30 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 295Today's Topics:
- 9600 baud-ready 220MHz rigs
- FTP SITE POCSAG 1200 signals ...
- rsgb gb2rs news 1st novemberSend Replies or notes
- for publication to: <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription
- requests to: <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't
- solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: 29 Oct 1992 08:48:01 -0800From:
- news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: 9600 baud-ready 220MHz
- rigsTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduPlease excuse me if someone has
- recently asked the same question:Are any of the commercially
- available transceivers for the 220 MHz bandready to accept 9600
- baud operation for packet? We also considered using440 MHz, but
- 220 MHz activity is nearly dead around here and it would be much
- more quiet than 440 MHz. If there are several rigs which fitthe
- bill, which ones have you had experience with, good or
- bad?Thanks in advance for the info. Please send replies directly
- to me.73 de Tom
- KB2MZQthomas@cheme.tn.cornell.edu------------------------------Da
- te: Thu, 29 Oct 1992 15:22:59 GMTFrom:
- pacbell.com!sgiblab!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!yale.edu!qt.cs.utexa
- s.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun.tamu.edu!cs.tamu.edu!willis@network.UC
- SD.EDUSubject: FTP SITETo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <73835@apple.Apple.COM>, winter@Apple.COM (Patty Winter)
- writes:|> In article
- <Angelo_Glorioso_Iii.0wu8@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US>
- Angelo_Glorioso_Iii@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Angelo Glorioso
- Iii) writes:|> >|> >HI ALL,|> >|> > I am looking for a FTP Sites
- for the ROSE 3.1 software.. |> |> |> Real ISO People Don't Use
- FTP.|> I know the corresponding ISO/OSI protocol is FTAM, but
- the real question is:Are there any Real ISO People? {Or are they
- vaporlife like ISO implementations?}Willis
- n5szf------------------------------Date: 29 Oct 92 17:31:32
- GMTFrom:
- news!netsys!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!bu951
- @network.UCSD.EDUSubject: POCSAG 1200 signals ...To:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edu---------Does anyone out there have any
- information about POCSAG (Post Office CodeStandardization
- Advisory Group) signalling? It's the signalling format usedfor
- alpha/numeric pagers (i.e. Motorola Advisor) and was developed
- inEngland. Any information would help (including list of books
- available).Thanks, Brian-- Brian R. Beeler
- bu951@po.cwru.edu GEIS: a.beeler.b@monet
- beeler@cc.utah.edu"What a long, strange trip it's been" -
- G.dead------------------------------Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1992
- 21:04:21 +0000From:
- pipex!demon!tedb.demon.co.uk!ted@uunet.uu.netSubject: rsgb gb2rs
- news 1st novemberTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduGood morning. It's
- Sunday the 1st of November and here is the GB2RS newsbroadcast,
- prepared by the Radio Society of Great Britain.First the
- headlines:- RSGB Member Morag Howell, GM0MUV,
- providescommunications link as part of the Pentland South Pole
- Expedition inAntarctica. Members of the society are reminded
- that Ballot papers should nowbe sent in for the 1993 Council
- Election.Morag Howell, GM0MUV/VP8CME, has been given permission
- by theRadiocommunications Agency to use the callsign GB4MSS/VP8
- from her expeditionbase camp in the Patriot Hills region of the
- British Antarctic Territory. Sheis accompanying Sir Ranulph
- Fiennes and Dr Mike Stroud, as part of thePentland South Pole
- Expedition. Ran and Mike will be attempting to walkunsupported
- across the Antarctic - a distance of some 2000 miles. There
- onlycommunication will be with Morag at base camp. She will be
- located 2850 footabove sea level at approximately 80 degrees
- South and 81 degrees West. In 1990as part of a fund raising
- campaign for the Multiple Sclerosis Society the"North Pole 90"
- expedition raised over 2 Million Pounds, and they hope toraise
- the same amount this time. QSL sponsorship will apply again, and
- Moragwill be trying to contact as many amateurs as possible when
- time permitsduring her three-month stay. Expect to make contact
- with her on all HF bands,SSB only from 29th October 1992 until
- around 10th of February 1993. QSLsshould be sent only to the UK
- GB series Bureaux. We will give regular updateson GB2RS each
- week to keep you informed of their progress.Members of the
- Society should have received their November RadCom and
- AnnualReport by now. Please remember that Ballot papers for
- council nominations mustbe received at RSGB Headquarters by 12
- noon on the 30th November 1992. If youhave not received your
- November RadCom or Annual Report please contact RSGB HQas soon
- as possible.Now some items of HF DX news from the weekly RSGB DX
- News Sheet which isedited by Brendan McCartney,
- G4DYO.------------------------------Date: (null)From:
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- (null)Rally news now, and we know of two rallies for today,
- Sunday the 1st ofNovember. Today is the last day of the North
- Wales Radio Rally and ElectronicsFair being held at the
- Aberconwy Conference and Exhibition Centre, Llandudno.Doors open
- at 11.00 am. There will be many stands including, an RSGB
- Bookstall, club stands and a bring and buy stall. Refreshments
- will be availableas will ample free parking space. Talk-in on
- channels S22 and SU8. SeeOctober's RadCom page 62 for more
- information.The North Devon Rally being held at the Holsworthy
- Memorial Hall, Holsworthy,North Devon. Doors open at 10.30
- am.There are three events scheduled for next Sunday, the
- 8th:There is the Barnsley Amateur Radio Rally to be held at
- Willowgarth SeniorHigh School, Brierley Road, Grimethorpe,
- Barnsley. Located mid-way betweenPontefract and Barnsley, just
- off the main A628 Barnsley to Pontefract Road.Doors open at
- 11.00am, 10.30 for disabled visitors, but please note that dueto
- Restoration Work the rally will not be suitable for wheelchair
- users. Therewill be the usual trade stands, plus over 20 radio
- clubs and specialisedgroups stands, and a large bring and buy
- stall. The event also offers cateringfacilities and parking on
- site. Talk-in will be on channel S22. Furtherdetails can be
- obtained from G4LUE, by telephoning 0226 716339, between
- 6.00pmand 8.00pm only please.Next the Mars/Stockland Mobile
- Radio Rally which is to be held at theStockland Green Leisure
- Centre, Slade Road, Erdington, Birmingham. There willbe trade
- stands, a bring and buy stall, free car parking. Further details
- canbe obtained from G8BHE, by telephoning 021 422 9787.The Tyne
- and Wear Repeater Group Auction is to be held at the
- FencehousesCommunity Centre, Fencehouses, near
- Chester-le-Street, Co Durham. Doors openat 10.30am for booking
- in. Auction to start at 12 noon. Further details can beobtained
- from Ian, G4OCQ, by telephoning 091 384 0827.Contest news :Today
- Sunday the 1st of November, sees the second of the RSGB's
- 1296MHz Fixedand SWL Contest which runs from 1600 to 2000GMT. On
- Monday the 2nd, the fifthand final round of the RSGB 144 CW
- Cumulative Contest takes place between 2030to 2300GMT. And on
- Friday the 6th, the next RSGB's 1.3 and 2.3GHz CumulativeContest
- takes place between 2030 to 2300GMT. The 144MHz CW Marconi-RSGB
- 24Hour Contest will start at 1400GMT on Saturday the 7th and
- finish at 1400GMTon Sunday the 8th. Also during Sunday the 8th,
- the 144MHz RSGB CW 6 HourContest will run between 0800 to
- 1400GMT. For further details on these event,see June RadCom
- pages 64 and 65.Repeater news :The UHF Voice repeater GB3LR on
- channel RB11, has now been restored to servicefrom a new
- location in Newhaven, West Sussex. The area covered is
- Peacehaven,Sleaford, Newhaven and Lewes, and the repeater group
- would appreciate anysignal reports, comments, etc. For further
- information contact Mark, G6RZA, bytelephoning 0273 512247.The
- solar factual data:The period 19th to 25th October has seen a
- lot of small C class flares and 2 Mtype, an M1.1/1F on the 19th
- and a M4.1/2B on the 23rd. A minor mag storm wasforecast on the
- 23rd but did not materialise. A proton warning was issued onthe
- 26th as this bulletin was being prepared. HF band conditions
- improvedduring the period as was expected. The spot count meaned
- at 133 but rose to156 on the 24th, the highest level since last
- July. Solar flux levelsincreased considerably averaging 142
- units but reaching 161 units on the 25ththe highest level since
- last July, these levels are well in excess to what wasexpected.
- The geomagnetic activity declined as was expected, with the Ap
- indexdropping from unsettled levels of 16 down to the very quiet
- level of only 2 onthe 24th, with the period averaging only 7.4
- units. The state has been nil -nothing to report except for the
- 26th when the proton alert was issued. Theradio quality indices
- increased from normal up to very good over the period,with the
- Tokyo, Fort Collins Boulder, and New York circuits reaching
- excellentby the 25th. The aa indices as supplied by the British
- Geological Survey forthe period 13th to 19th October had daily
- averages of 36.3 nanoTeslas aroundquiet levels, though one
- period around midnight on the 14th was up to 102nanoTeslas.
- Bartells rotation 2175 started Oct 24. The Taurids meteor
- showerreaches its peak on November 3rd but will continue at
- reduced levels until the30th.The ionospheric data for England
- and Wales:This week there has been a break down at Slough and
- not all the data isavailable, but for the 19th to the 23rd, the
- F2 daytime critical frequenciesat Slough as reported by
- Appleton, averaged 10.2MHz the highest weekly averagesince last
- April. The darkness hour lows averaged 2.6MHz with little
- variationday to day.The ionospheric data for the north:The F2
- daytime critical frequencies at EKATERINBERG
- (pronouncedE-KATER-INBERG) formally Sverdlodvsk (pronounced
- SPHERED-LOVSK) averaged8.7MHz, and the darkness hour lows
- averaged 2.9MHz. There is no change in theionospheric
- observatory being used in these bulletins, but we have
- beenadvised that with all the changes taking place in Russia,
- the location ofSverdlodvsk is no longer used, and that the
- location and observatory hasreverted to its old location name
- which is Ekaterinberg.The solar forecast:This week, the active
- side of the sun will be looking our way solar fluxlevels are
- expected to be about the 125s the geomagnetic levels are
- expectedto be quiet. With the seasonal changes now being
- evident, HF band conditionsare generally expected to be good,
- with daytime MUFs up to 30MHz, and darknesshour lows being up to
- 14MHz.And that is the end of the solar information.Finally in
- the main news, the licence issuing agency, SSL, has informed
- theSociety that as of last Wednesday morning, the latest
- callsigns issued were inthe G0 S O and G7 N V series, and Novice
- calls in the 2 0 A D and2 1 B D series.You're listening to
- GB2RS, the news broadcasting service of the Radio Societyof
- Great Britain, transmitting in the 80, 40, 6 and 2 metre
- bands.Good morning. It's Sunday the 1st of November and here is
- the GB2RS newsbroadcast, prepared by the Radio Society of Great
- Britain.First the headlines:- RSGB Member Morag Howell, GM0MUV,
- providescommunications link as part of the Pentland South Pole
- Expedition inAntarctica. Members of the society are reminded
- that Ballot papers should nowbe sent in for the 1993 Council
- Election.Morag Howell, GM0MUV/VP8CME, has been given permission
- by theRadiocommunications Agency to use the callsign GB4MSS/VP8
- from her expeditionbase camp in the Patriot Hills region of the
- British Antarctic Territory. Sheis accompanying Sir Ranulph
- Fiennes and Dr Mike Stroud, as part of thePentland South Pole
- Expedition. Ran and Mike will be attempting to walkunsupported
- across the Antarctic - a distance of some 2000 miles. There
- onlycommunication will be with Morag at base camp. She will be
- located 2850 footabove sea level at approximately 80 degrees
- South and 81 degrees West. In 1990as part of a fund raising
- campaign for the Multiple Sclerosis Society the"North Pole 90"
- expedition raised over 2 Million Pounds, and they hope toraise
- the same amount this time. QSL sponsorship will apply again, and
- Moragwill be trying to contact as many amateurs as possible when
- time permitsduring her three-month stay. Expect to make contact
- with her on all HF bands,SSB only from 29th October 1992 until
- around 10th of February 1993. QSLsshould be sent only to the UK
- GB series Bureaux. We will give regular updateson GB2RS each
- week to keep you informed of their progress.Members of the
- Society should have received their November RadCom and
- AnnualReport by now. Please remember that Ballot papers for
- council nominations mustbe received at RSGB Headquarters by 12
- noon on the 30th November 1992. If youhave not received your
- November RadCom or Annual Report please contact RSGB HQas soon
- as possible.Now some items of HF DX news from the weekly RSGB DX
- News Sheet which isedited by Brendan McCartney,
- G4DYO.------------------------------Date: (null)From:
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- (null)Rally news now, and we know of two rallies for today,
- Sunday the 1st ofNovember. Today is the last day of the North
- Wales Radio Rally and ElectronicsFair being held at the
- Aberconwy Conference and Exhibition Centre, Llandudno.Doors open
- at 11.00 am. There will be many stands including, an RSGB
- Bookstall, club stands and a bring and buy stall. Refreshments
- will be availableas will ample free parking space. Talk-in on
- channels S22 and SU8. SeeOctober's RadCom page 62 for more
- information.The North Devon Rally being held at the Holsworthy
- Memorial Hall, Holsworthy,North Devon. Doors open at 10.30
- am.There are three events scheduled for next Sunday, the
- 8th:There is the Barnsley Amateur Radio Rally to be held at
- Willowgarth SeniorHigh School, Brierley Road, Grimethorpe,
- Barnsley. Located mid-way betweenPontefract and Barnsley, just
- off the main A628 Barnsley to Pontefract Road.Doors open at
- 11.00am, 10.30 for disabled visitors, but please note that dueto
- Restoration Work the rally will not be suitable for wheelchair
- users. Therewill be the usual trade stands, plus over 20 radio
- clubs and specialisedgroups stands, and a large bring and buy
- stall. The event also offers cateringfacilities and parking on
- site. Talk-in will be on channel S22. Furtherdetails can be
- obtained from G4LUE, by telephoning 0226 716339, between
- 6.00pmand 8.00pm only please.Next the Mars/Stockland Mobile
- Radio Rally which is to be held at theStockland Green Leisure
- Centre, Slade Road, Erdington, Birmingham. There willbe trade
- stands, a bring and buy stall, free car parking. Further details
- canbe obtained from G8BHE, by telephoning 021 422 9787.The Tyne
- and Wear Repeater Group Auction is to be held at the
- FencehousesCommunity Centre, Fencehouses, near
- Chester-le-Street, Co Durham. Doors openat 10.30am for booking
- in. Auction to start at 12 noon. Further details can beobtained
- from Ian, G4OCQ, by telephoning 091 384 0827.Contest news :Today
- Sunday the 1st of November, sees the second of the RSGB's
- 1296MHz Fixedand SWL Contest which runs from 1600 to 2000GMT. On
- Monday the 2nd, the fifthand final round of the RSGB 144 CW
- Cumulative Contest takes place between 2030to 2300GMT. And on
- Friday the 6th, the next RSGB's 1.3 and 2.3GHz CumulativeContest
- takes place between 2030 to 2300GMT. The 144MHz CW Marconi-RSGB
- 24Hour Contest will start at 1400GMT on Saturday the 7th and
- finish at 1400GMTon Sunday the 8th. Also during Sunday the 8th,
- the 144MHz RSGB CW 6 HourContest will run between 0800 to
- 1400GMT. For further details on these event,see June RadCom
- pages 64 and 65.Repeater news :The UHF Voice repeater GB3LR on
- channel RB11, has now been restored to servicefrom a new
- location in Newhaven, West Sussex. The area covered is
- Peacehaven,Sleaford, Newhaven and Lewes, and the repeater group
- would appreciate anysignal reports, comments, etc. For further
- information contact Mark, G6RZA, bytelephoning 0273 512247.The
- solar factual data:The period 19th to 25th October has seen a
- lot of small C class flares and 2 Mtype, an M1.1/1F on the 19th
- and a M4.1/2B on the 23rd. A minor mag storm wasforecast on the
- 23rd but did not materialise. A proton warning was issued onthe
- 26th as this bulletin was being prepared. HF band conditions
- improvedduring the period as was expected. The spot count meaned
- at 133 but rose to156 on the 24th, the highest level since last
- July. Solar flux levelsincreased considerably averaging 142
- units but reaching 161 units on the 25ththe highest level since
- last July, these levels are well in excess to what wasexpected.
- The geomagnetic activity declined as was expected, with the Ap
- indexdropping from unsettled levels of 16 down to the very quiet
- level of only 2 onthe 24th, with the period averaging only 7.4
- units. The state has been nil -nothing to report except for the
- 26th when the proton alert was issued. Theradio quality indices
- increased from normal up to very good over the period,with the
- Tokyo, Fort Collins Boulder, and New York circuits reaching
- excellentby the 25th. The aa indices as supplied by the British
- Geological Survey forthe period 13th to 19th October had daily
- averages of 36.3 nanoTeslas aroundquiet levels, though one
- period around midnight on the 14th was up to 102nanoTeslas.
- Bartells rotation 2175 started Oct 24. The Taurids meteor
- showerreaches its peak on November 3rd but will continue at
- reduced levels until the30th.The ionospheric data for England
- and Wales:This week there has been a break down at Slough and
- not all the data isavailable, but for the 19th to the 23rd, the
- F2 daytime critical frequenciesat Slough as reported by
- Appleton, averaged 10.2MHz the highest weekly averagesince last
- April. The darkness hour lows averaged 2.6MHz with little
- variationday to day.The ionospheric data for the north:The F2
- daytime critical frequencies at EKATERINBERG
- (pronouncedE-KATER-INBERG) formally Sverdlodvsk (pronounced
- SPHERED-LOVSK) averaged8.7MHz, and the darkness hour lows
- averaged 2.9MHz. There is no change in theionospheric
- observatory being used in these bulletins, but we have
- beenadvised that with all the changes taking place in Russia,
- the location ofSverdlodvsk is no longer used, and that the
- location and observatory hasreverted to its old l oc
-
- ation name which is Ekaterinberg.The solar forecast:This week,
- the active side of the sun will be looking our way solar
- fluxlevels are expected to be about the 125s the geomagnetic
- levels are expectedto be quiet. With the seasonal changes now
- being evident, HF band conditionsare generally expected to be
- good, with daytime MUFs up to 30MHz, and darknesshour lows being
- up to 14MHz.And that is the end of the solar information.Finally
- in the main news, the licence issuing agency, SSL, has informed
- theSociety that as of last Wednesday morning, the latest
- callsigns issued were inthe G0 S O and G7 N V series, and Novice
- calls in the 2 0 A D and2 1 B D series.You're listening to
- GB2RS, the news broadcasting service of the Radio Societyof
- Great Britain, transmitting in the 80, 40, 6 and 2 metre
- bands.------------------------------End of Packet-Radio Digest
- V92 #295******************************Date: Sat, 31 Oct 92
- 04:30:02 PSTFrom: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup
- <packet-radio@ucsd.edu>Errors-To:
- Packet-Radio-Errors@UCSD.EduReply-To:
- Packet-Radio@UCSD.EduPrecedence: BulkSubject: Packet-Radio
- Digest V92 #296To: packet-radioPacket-Radio Digest Sat,
- 31 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 296Today's Topics:
- AMIGA500 and PacketRadio? GRAPES 56KB
- RF Questions (5 msgs) MFJ-1274 help
- RFD: rec.radio.info
- ROSE softwareSend Replies or notes for publication to:
- <Packet-Radio@UCSD.Edu>Send subscription requests to:
- <Packet-Radio-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>Problems you can't solve
- otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.Archives of past issues of the
- Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in
- directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".We trust that readers are
- intelligent enough to realize that all textherein consists of
- personal comments and does not represent the officialpolicies or
- positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So
- there.-----------------------------------------------------------
- -----------Date: 28 Oct 92 11:57:59 GMTFrom:
- news!netsys!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!z
- aphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!hpux.rz.un
- i-jena.de!th-ilmenau.RZ.TH-Ilmenau.DE!systemtechnik.tu-ilmenauSub
- ject: AMIGA500 and PacketRadio?To: packet-radio@ucsd.eduHallo,a
- friend of myne wants to go in for PacketRadio with hisAMIGA 500
- - computer.If you know a good software or have some other hints
- please send me PM (planke@systemtechnik.tu-ilmenau.de)Thank you
- in advanceThomas Y32JK------------------------------Date: 30 Oct
- 92 13:22:56 GMTFrom:
- gatech!cc.gatech.edu!news@uunet.uu.netSubject: GRAPES 56KB RF
- QuestionsTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1cqjl0INN5ec@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
- (Mike E. Romano) writes:>> I have heard that it is possible to
- do packet without a> radio, but with just a pc clone and this
- GRAPES 56KBNo. The grapes modem puts out an IF in the HF band,
- but you stillneed to convert that to 440 and amplify it. Send
- email to Doug Drye,KD4NC gatech!kd4nc!dug or Chris Wren
- jcw@bold1.gatech.edu.> if I have this set up can I both read
- Usenet and> do postings, e mail (ftp not necessary)?I won't get
- into the usenet-on-packet argument.Good luck. haroldFORBES,
- HAROLD C. N5JCMGeorgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta
- Georgia, 30332uucp:
- ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!cc!haroldARPA:
- harold@cc.gatech.edu PACKET: N5JCM @
- W4QO------------------------------Date: 30 Oct 1992 06:10:39
- GMTFrom:
- agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!bj368@ames.arpaSu
- bject: GRAPES 56KB RF QuestionsTo: packet-radio@ucsd.edu I
- have heard that it is possible to do packet without a radio,
- but with just a pc clone and this GRAPES 56KB modem, which does
- not require audio. Is this correct...and if so where can I
- purchase it. Also I am in SF bay area and would like to know
- if I have this set up can I both read Usenet and do postings, e
- mail (ftp not necessary)? Where would be the nearest radio BBS
- to allow this? thanks.-- Capt. Kirk: let's head for that
- planet, third from the sun, it looks promising....
- |-)------------------------------Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 12:42:56
- GMTFrom:
- pacbell.com!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!cs.widener.edu!ukma!usenet.ins.c
- wru.edu!gatech!nscf!wa4phy!sam@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: GRAPES
- 56KB RF QuestionsTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edubj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E.
- Romano) writes:> I have heard that it is possible to do packet
- without a> radio, but with just a pc clone and this GRAPES
- 56KB> modem, which does not require audio.That is not correct
- exactly. The GRAPES 56k modem IS an rf modem, butthe output is
- only about 1 milliwatt, and is in the 28mhz ham band. It*MIGHT*
- be usable with another if they were separated by a few feet.
- Thestandard use is to drive a 220 or 430 Mhz transverter.> Is
- this correct...and if so where can I purchase it.> Also I am in
- SF bay area and would like to know> if I have this set up can I
- both read Usenet and> do postings, e mail (ftp not necessary)?>
- Where would be the nearest radio BBS to allow this?> thanks.If
- you are a ham radio operator, you could access another system
- ifthey have the equipment too. The modems are NOT plug and
- play. Theyare in kit form, and require a power supply, and a
- device such as theOttowa PI (packet interface) card, or a
- modified TNC to provide I/Ofrom the computer.Kits can be ordered
- from GRAPES, Inc, Alpharetta, GA. If you need thefull address,
- drop me a line, and I'll e-mail you the full address andmore
- info.sam>-- >Capt. Kirk: let's head for that planet, third from
- the sun, it> looks promising.... |-)-- sam
- drinkard | internet: wa4phy!sam@galois.nscf.org
- | amprnet:
- wa4phy@wa4phy.ampr.org------------------------------Date: 30 Oct
- 92 20:49:30 GMTFrom:
- saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!usenet.coe
- .montana.edu!news.u.washington.edu!serval!wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu!WEBB
- G@ames.arpaSubject: GRAPES 56KB RF QuestionsTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.edu Does anyone have the address and phone
- number of GRAPES? Geoff Webb
- N7ZRR------------------------------Date: 30 Oct 92 15:13:32
- GMTFrom:
- sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!gatech!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@am
- es.arpaSubject: GRAPES 56KB RF QuestionsTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduIn article
- <1cqjl0INN5ec@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
- (Mike E. Romano) writes:>> I have heard that it is possible to
- do packet without a> radio, but with just a pc clone and this
- GRAPES 56KB> modem, which does not require audio.> Is this
- correct...and if so where can I purchase it.> Also I am in SF
- bay area and would like to know> if I have this set up can I
- both read Usenet and> do postings, e mail (ftp not necessary)?>
- Where would be the nearest radio BBS to allow this?>
- thanks.Ok, the GRAPES 56 kb modem is great, but you need a
- matching modemat the other end to do anything with it. Right now
- there aren't alot of them installed in the SF area so I don't
- know that you couldget the connection you want. The modem is a
- true RF modem, but it'soutput is in the 10 meter band and you
- require a transverter to putthe signal on a UHF frequency where
- such high baudrates are legalhere in the US. We've used several
- different transverters from theMicrowave Modules units to the
- Hamtronics unit to the new designby Rick Campbell that was
- featured in QST. The total system pricewith transverter and
- interface card is in the $600-$700 range,less if you can
- scrounge a used transverter. That's about what it would cost to
- go buy a TNC and a new voice radio, but the thruput is 49 times
- greater with the high speed modem. As N1AL noted, this isn't a
- project for the casual beginner. You need access to a dual
- channel scope and a frequency counter to getthe system up and
- running. If you've built a couple of kits, andhave access to the
- test equipment, the scope only has to have abandwidth through
- 100 kHz, then it's a good project. There aren't any tricky parts
- to it and it goes together easily. I've built 5of them. But if
- you don't know anything about packet, you might be better off
- starting out with the traditional radio and TNC. Just don't get
- discouraged by the low thruput of those systems because there
- *is* something better available. If you want more detailed
- information on the modem, Email me and I'll send you some
- information on it, or thereis a complete technical write up on
- it by the system designer in the6th ARRL Computer Networking
- Conference Proceedings.Gary
- KE4ZV------------------------------Date: 30 Oct 1992 09:50:12
- -0800From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: MFJ-1274 helpTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduI have an MFJ-1274 and am interested in
- getting TCP/IPrunning on it. How do I go about it? Also, I know
- alittle about what firmware is, but how do I implementver.
- 1.1.8, where do I get it and what does it offer,(TCP/IP)?
- Tnx and 73's Dan Todd
- ==============================================================
- Dan Todd KC6UUD The right to be heard does not ==
- SNGundersen@ucdavis.edu automatically include the right==
- to be taken seriously. ==
- --Hubert Humphrey =
- ==============================================================
- I don't speak for the University of California and = =
- it sure as hell doesn't speak for me!!! =
- =============================================================----
- --------------------------Date: Thu, 29 Oct 92 02:07:16 GMTFrom:
- usc!wupost!gumby!destroyer!cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualbe
- rta.ca!ersys!adec23!ve6mgs!mark@network.UCSD.EDUSubject: RFD:
- rec.radio.infoTo: packet-radio@ucsd.eduProposed is a new
- moderated group, rec.radio.info. This group should
- carryinformational posts such as the radio FAQs, Solar Reports,
- ARRL Bulletins,RACES Bulletins, Keplerian elements, AMSAT
- Bulletins, Amateurs on USENET list,Elmers List, SCDX postings
- and others too numerous to mention. Alsoinformational posts in
- the other rec.radio.* groups may be reposted in thisgroup
- (either at the request of the poster, or by one of the
- moderators).For the benefit of those of you that don't
- understand the currentrec.radio.*
- hierarchy:rec.radio.amateur.misc Amateur Radio practices,
- contests, events and other
- discussions.rec.radio.amateur.packet Discussion about packet
- radio setups.rec.radio.amateur.policy Amateur Radio practices,
- rules, etc.rec.radio.swap Offers to trade and swap radio
- equipment.rec.radio.noncomm Non commercial radio
- discussionsrec.radio.shortwave Shortwave Radio
- discussions.rec.radio.cb Arguments about Linears and whose
- stick is biggerrec.radio.broadcasting moderated group about
- broadcast radioNon of these groups would change, but the hopes
- would be that the informativeposts from each of these groups end
- up in the proposed new grouprec.radio.info. Other proposed names
- for the group that have been made are:rec.radio.answers,
- rec.radio.info, rec.radio.announce,
- rec.radio.amateur.news,rec.radio.news so a choice for a name for
- this group is also up in the air.The moderator that has
- volunteered is Mark Salyzyn (mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org) alongwith, I
- hope, several co-moderators that make up the list of
- informational postcontributors. So far Paul W. Schleck
- (pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu) hasvolunteered to be one of the
- co-moderators.I will try to set up an archive for this new
- group, but hopes are that therewill be a volunteer with a better
- connected (ie: ftp'able) site arranged.Paul has also agreed
- that, once vote is to be taken in 30 days, he will tallythe
- votes. The voting addresses will be presented at the RFV, so DO
- NOT VOTENOW!Followups to news.groups. Please do not send me
- e-mail, as I am not theperson you need to convince as to the
- validity/invalidity of this group.I leave that up to
- net-wisdom.Gentleman, start up your engines!-------- Recommended
- description -------Newsgroup: rec.radio.info
- (moderated)/usr/lib/news/newsgroups
- entry: rec.radio.info Informational postings related to
- radio.Charter: To provide high quality, informational postings
- about radio. This group will be used to segregate information
- from the regular discussions streams, such as
- rec.radio.amateur.misc, to alieviate the traffic in these
- discussion groups. Also, by placing the informational postings
- in this group, make it easier for many to find radio related
- information. By maintaining a high level of quality in the
- postings, it is hoped that these postings may end up, at least
- more conveniently, over the Amateur Radio Packet BBS network as
- well through the various gateways. By using a co-moderator
- scheme, the hopes are that many of the postings will maintain
- timeliness, and good propagation through the computer
- networks.Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark
- -sk-------------------------------Date: 30 Oct 1992 22:55:50
- -0800From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.eduSubject: ROSE softwareTo:
- packet-radio@ucsd.eduSomebody wanted the latest ROSE software?
- I uploaded it to tomcat.gsfc.nasa.gov in the rose
- directory.Ron N8FOW------------------------------End of
- Packet-Radio Digest V92 #296******************************
-