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So what's with the THENET flames?

Since the sources showed up there has been NO comment in this
newsgroup.  Surely somebody at Software 2000 must have said either

   a) "Yes indeed, those guys stole our code and put in German comments" or
   b) "Oops, I guess they really did write their own clone and we apologize".

Any discussion on Compu$erve or elsewhere?  Anyone have the right
C compiler and tried compiling the sources?

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Subject:  USA Packet Stats by type activity

        Recap of USA Stats
         As of 07-01-1988
         by K4NGC

The  following is a computed recap  of  the
WWPACKET.DBF file I maintain for the United
States.  It reflects the number and type of
activities  by  state.   If  you  have  any
changes to this file please address them to
K4NGC @ K4NGC.

State            PBBS  DIGI  TOTAL  PERCENT
---------------- ----  ----  -----  -------
Alabama            15    23    38     1.68%
Alaska              6     8    14     0.62%
Arizona            45    17    62     2.75%
Arkansas            9    11    20     0.89%
California        115    95   210     9.30%
Colorado           35    63    98     4.34%
Connecticut         9    17    26     1.15%
Delaware            4     2     6     0.27%
Dist of Columbia    0     2     2     0.09%
Florida            58    70   128     5.67%
Georgia            26    23    49     2.17%
Hawaii              9    11    20     0.89%
Idaho               2     4     6     0.27%
Illinois           22    31    53     2.35%
Indiana            38    55    93     4.12%
Iowa               21    30    51     2.26%
Kansas             11    13    24     1.06%
Kentucky           14    38    52     2.30%
Louisiana          15     5    20     0.89%
Maine              13     7    20     0.89%
Maryland           32    45    77     3.41%
Massachusetts      35    24    59     2.61%
Michigan           32    17    49     2.17%
Minnesota          11     8    19     0.84%
Mississippi        13     4    17     0.75%
Missouri           13    42    55     2.44%
Montana             6     7    13     0.58%
Nebraska           10    16    26     1.15%
Nevada              1    10    11     0.49%
New Hampshire      10    11    21     0.93%
New Jersey         63    32    95     4.21%
New Mexico         15     9    24     1.06%
New York           73    66   139     6.16%
North Carolina     19    25    44     1.95%
North Dakota        6     1     7     0.31%
Ohio               50    47    97     4.30%
Oklahoma           13    22    35     1.55%
Oregon              6     8    14     0.62%
Pennsylvania       47    38    85     3.76%
Rhode Island        5     5    10     0.44%
South Carolina      7    11    18     0.80%
South Dakota        3     9    12     0.53%
Tennessee          14    18    32     1.42%
Texas              37    15    52     2.30%
Utah                9    24    33     1.46%
Vermont             9     2    11     0.49%
Virginia           28    54    82     3.63%
Washington         19    20    39     1.73%
West Virginia       8    14    22     0.97%
Wisconsin          23    20    43     1.90%
Wyoming             9    15    24     1.06%
         ----  ----  ----  --------
Total            1094  1164  2258   100.00%

The  WWPACKET.DBF files are available on my
LandLine Bulletin Board to all who want it.
My  Landline BBS telephone number  is  703-
680-5970.  These files are in text, ARC and
dBase formats.

Don Bennett (K4NGC)
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Subject:  USA Packet Stats by Frequency

        Recap of USA Stats
         As of 07-01-1988
         by K4NGC

The   following   is  a  computed  recap  of   the
WWPACKET.DBF  file  I  maintain  for  the   United
States.   It  reflects  the  number  and  type  of
activities  by Frequency.  If you have any changes
to this file please address them to K4NGC @ K4NGC.

Frequency         DIGI     PBBS    TOTAL   PERCENT
----------------  ----     ----    -----   -------
   7.0910 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
   7.0930 Mhz        0       30       30     1.33%
   7.0940 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
   7.0970 Mhz        0        3        3     0.13%
   7.9300 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
  10.1473 Mhz        0        1        1     0.71%
  10.1490 Mhz        0       16       16     0.71%
  14.1030 Mhz        1        4        5     0.22%
  14.1050 Mhz        0        2        2     0.09%
  14.1070 Mhz        0       28       28     1.24%
  14.1090 Mhz        0       22       22     0.97%
  14.1110 Mhz        0       23       23     1.02%
  14.1115 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
  14.1490 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
  28.1050 Mhz        0        8        8     0.35%
  28.2750 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
  51.1200 Mhz        4        0        4     0.18%
 144.5100 Mhz        1        3        4     0.18%
 144.7600 Mhz        1        1        2     0.09%
 144.9100 Mhz        2        3        5     0.22%
 144.9300 Mhz        2       13       15     0.66%
 144.9500 Mhz        3        5        8     0.35%
 144.9700 Mhz        1        9       10     0.44%
 144.9900 Mhz        2        8       10     0.44%
 145.0000 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 145.0100 Mhz      695      427     1122    49.69%
 145.0300 Mhz       52       57      109     4.83%
 145.0500 Mhz      123      116      239    10.58%
 145.0700 Mhz       56       58      114     5.05%
 145.0900 Mhz       56       74      130     5.76%
 145.1100 Mhz        0        3        3     0.13%
 145.1500 Mhz        0        3        3     0.13%
 145.3300 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 145.3500 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 145.3600 Mhz        4        9       13     0.58%
 145.5100 Mhz        5        0        5     0.22%
 145.5500 Mhz        3        1        4     0.18%
 145.5550 Mhz        1        1        2     0.09%
 145.5700 Mhz        1        3        4     0.18%
 145.5900 Mhz        5        1        6     0.27%
 145.6100 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 145.6500 Mhz        2        1        3     0.13%
 145.6700 Mhz        4        2        6     0.27%
 145.9300 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 145.9700 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 146.0700 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 146.1300 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 146.1450 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 146.7000 Mhz        0        2        2     0.09%
 146.7300 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 146.7450 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 146.9800 Mhz        1        1        2     0.09%
 147.0100 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 147.4900 Mhz        2        2        4     0.18%
 147.5400 Mhz        1        2        3     0.13%
 147.5550 Mhz       12        6       18     0.80%
 147.5600 Mhz        1        1        2     0.09%
 147.7000 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 149.0900 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 220.0100 Mhz        0        2        2     0.09%
 220.4500 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 220.5200 Mhz        0        3        3     0.13%
 220.5500 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 220.5700 Mhz       20        4       24     1.06%
 220.9500 Mhz        9        1       10     0.44%
 221.0100 Mhz       18       19       37     1.64%
 221.1000 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 221.1100 Mhz       15       35       50     2.21%
 223.4000 Mhz        3        2        5     0.22%
 223.4200 Mhz        5        6       11     0.49%
 223.5000 Mhz        1        1        2     0.09%
 223.5800 Mhz       10       18       28     1.24%
 223.7000 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 433.8000 Mhz        0        1        1     0.04%
 438.0000 Mhz        3        0        3     0.13%
 441.0000 Mhz        8       11       19     0.84%
 441.5000 Mhz        2        2        4     0.18%
 443.8000 Mhz        3        0        3     0.13%
 445.5500 Mhz        1        0        1     0.04%
 446.0500 Mhz        1        1        2     0.09%
 446.1000 Mhz        0        2        2     0.09%
 446.8000 Mhz        1        9       10     0.44%
 446.8200 Mhz        0        2        2     0.09%
 448.4000 Mhz        2        0        2     0.09%
         ------   ------   ------
TOTAL             1164     1094     2258   100.00%

The   WWPACKET.DBF  files  are  available  on   my
LandLine  Bulletin Board to all who  want  it.  My
Landline  BBS  telephone number  is  703-680-5970.
These files are in text, ARC and dBase formats.

Don Bennett (K4NGC)
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Woodbridge, Va 22193
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Subject:  WWPACKET Stats by Country

           Recap of  WWPACKET
           As of  1 July 1987
            by K4NGC

The following is a computed recap of the WWPACKET
file I maintain.  It shows the number and type of
activities   by country.  As you can see it still
needs some countries to make it complete.  Please
help  out  by  suppling me  with  information  on
countries  which are not currently  included.  If
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please  address  them  to K4NGC @ K4NGC.

State             PBBS    DIGI   TOTAL   Percent
---------------  ------  ------  ------  -------
Australia             1       0       1    0.04%
Canada               46       0      46    1.79%
France                0       9       9    0.35%
Great Britain        51       0      51    1.99%
Hungary               2       4       6    0.23%
Italy                 2       5       7    0.27%
Japan               151       6     157    6.12%
Norway                0       1       1    0.04%
United States     1,094   1,164   2,258   88.03%
Yugoslavia            6      23      29    1.13%
         ------  ------  ------  -------
Total             1,353   1,212   2,565  100.00%

The  WWPACKET files is available on my Land  Line
BBS  to all who want it.  The BBS Number is  703-
680-5970.  Its in text and dBASE formats.

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/ [e-mail] (Michael T. Horne) /  2:02 pm  Jun 19, 1988 /
>>All console I/O in net.exe goes through the regular BIOS calls
>
>Still, it would be nice to have the option of logging to a file; nothing
>a few fprintf()'s and fputc()'s couldn't handle... :-)

A couple of folks (Russ Nelson in particular) have talked about modifying NET
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Subject: Latest level of ROMS for PKT-1??
Keywords: AEA PKT-1, TAPR, TNC, ROMS

<< EAT FLAMING MESONS, FASCIST LINEEATER! >>
 I have a slight difficulty, I bought an AEA PKT-1 on sale, very good price,
but have noticed that there are a few problems running this tnc as a digi.
 The manufacture (AEA) says: "UUUhhhmmm...we don't have any later revision
of firmware, try calling the people at TAPR.."
 TAPR sold me a 27256 EPROM part, with absolutly no instructions whatever,
and then I noticed that the EPROMS in the PKT-1 (the rev 3.1 stuff) is on
four parts! These are 2764's. After a few phone calls, TAPR sent me some
cut'n'jumper instructions that seem to have nothing whatever to do with
the PKT-1...???? So..my questions:

1-Can a PKT-1 be upgraded to use the latest TAPR firmware??
2-Where can I get instructions to do so?? (ie- a cut'n'jumper list that
actually goes with the PKT-1)

 AEA disavows any knowledge of how to do so, and so far, TAPR seems to
think I'm just kidding them when I say that the schematics don't match.

advTHANKS!ance,
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ok

i realize i am probably way out of my league here, but i must ask:
are the news groups from usenet broadcast in packet ham-radioland
somewhere?....if so where?
and do I need x.25 to receive it

[before i am shot down in flames, i know nothing about packet radio,
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It would be great to get a little bit more information about the table
I received from you via packrad; pardon me, but i am a beginner.  A little
background and an explanation of the column headings would be most
appreciated.  Also, can you tell me does packet radio refer to any use of
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Keywords: AEA PKT-1, TAPR, TNC, ROMS
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] ( Avatar) writes:
> ... bought an AEA PKT-1 on sale
> ... TAPR sold me a 27256 EPROM part

The EPROM TAPR sold you was for their TNC-2 model, based on a Z80-type
processor and SIO chip.  The AEA PKT-1 is based on the earlier TAPR
TNC-1 design which uses the MC6809 processor and WD1933 HDLC chip.
In short, it ain't gonna work.  You should probably see if you can get
your money back.

My recommendation is that you get the WA8DED firmware for the TNC-1.
It's available on SIMTEL20.ARPA in the file PD2:<CPM.PACKET>DEDTNC1.ARK.1,
dated August 1987.  It's also available on CompuServe's HAMNET in the
DL9 download section.  The version that I'm running is 1.3; I don't
know if that's the latest or not.  Take the hex files provided and
burn them into two 2764 EPROMS.  Remove the four original EPROMs and
insert the two you just burned into the C000 and E000 sockets.  Set
the TNC to ROM boot (as opposed to NOVRAM) and power it up.  It should
type a greeting at you at 300 baud.  Complete documentation is provided
with the hex files.

The command set used by the WA8DED firmware is completely different
>from the original TAPR command set but I find it to be much nicer.

    ---Bob.

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Keywords: AEA PKT-1, TAPR, TNC, ROMS
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Reply-To: [e-mail] (Rusty)

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] ( Avatar) writes:
> I have a slight difficulty, I bought an AEA PKT-1 ....
> TAPR sold me a 27256 EPROM part, with absolutly no instructions whatever,
>and then I noticed that the EPROMS in the PKT-1 (the rev 3.1 stuff) is on
>four parts! These are 2764's. .....
>
>1-Can a PKT-1 be upgraded to use the latest TAPR firmware??
>2-Where can I get instructions to do so?? (ie- a cut'n'jumper list that
>actually goes with the PKT-1)
>
.....
>-Avatar-> (aka: Erik K. Sorgatz) KB6LUY

Probably the easiest would be to have someone who can read 27256 ROMs and write
2764 ROMs 'cut' the 27256 into 4 parts for you and put it onto 4 2764 PROMs.
Or, even worse, one person who can read the 27256 and put it on disk, then
send the disk to someone who can read the disk and write 2764....  (I volunteer
to write the 4  2764 for you, but I am not sure I can read 27256 PROMs.  Will
check...)

The other option I come up with would be to  take the databook (with
pinouts for both chips), the board, and paper and figuring out what the schematic
ACTUALLY is for your board, then figuring out the cuts and jumpers.

Unless, of course, someone else here on usenet has already done the cuts/jumps
and will come out of the woodwork, `cause then 'all your problems are gone'.

I think I like the first way better.  Let me know if I can help, I should
know about my PROM programmer by then.
---
Oh, yes.  This all assumes that the 4 sockets on your board cover the same address
range as that expected by the 27256.....
----


    Rusty Carruth       N7IKQ   DOMAIN: [e-mail]
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These frobs are made by Motorola and IBM is the only people
who use the system.  I don't think Motorola is marketing them
at all, it was a custom job.  Essentially they are two way
alphanumeric beepers.

-Ron
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 To: Clifford Neuman PACKET-RADIO Moderator.

 Hi Clifford.  I am not currently a subscriber to the PACKET-RADIO group
 but thought I'd pass along this information which may be of
 considerable value to amateur radio operators, especially those
 engaged in disaster support (i.e. traffic handling, packet bbs
 operators, NDMS and NCS exercise participants, emergency
 coordinators etc.).   - Bruce D. Crawford


 AN INTRODUCTION TO THE DISASTER RESEARCH CENTER FOR PACKET-RADIO
  Readers.    Come to our open house in August !

 The Disaster Research Center, the first of its kind and the only
 one in the United States,  was  established  at  the  Ohio State
 University in  1963 and  moved to  the University of Delaware in
 1985.  The Center  engages  in  a  variety  of  sociological and
 social science research on group and organizational preparations
 for, responses to, and recovery from community-wide emergencies,
 particularly  natural  and  technological  disasters.  Since the
 Center's inception, there have  been  over  496  different field
 studies.    Teams  have  gone  to  earthquakes  in Japan, Chile,
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 well as Japan; floods in Italy,  Canada, and  more than  a dozen
 states;  and  tornadoes  and  hazardous  chemical  incidents  in
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 major  disasters  have  been  restudied  several years after the
 initial research.  For purposes of  comparison, Center personnel
 have   also   examined   organizational   responses   to   civil
 disturbances and riots.

 The Center has a  number  of  professionals  on  its  staff plus
 supporting clerical  and secretarial  personnel.  It is directed
 by Professor E.L. Quarantelli, with the assistance of Professors
 Dennis E.  Wenger and Russell R. Dynes, all of the Department of
 Sociology at the University.

 Recent studies  have  focused  on:    Social  and organizational
 aspects  of  the  delivery  of  mental  health  services  and of
 emergency  medical  services  in  mass  emergencies;  and socio-
 behavioral responses  to acute chemical hazards and the problems
 involved in mass evacuation  and sheltering.   Research underway
 includes the  ways in  which information relating to disaster is
 processed through  news  organizations,  the  organizational and
 public response  to the  Mexico City earthquake, and the role of
 local  emergency  response  agencies.    Center  personnel  have
 examined legal  aspects of  governmental responses in disasters,
 the emergence and operation of rumor control centers, mass media
 reporting  of  community  crises,  the functioning of relief and
 welfare groups in stress situations,  and  the  handling  of the
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 The research  provides basic  knowledge about group behavior and
 social  life  in  large  scale  community  crises  as   well  as
 information which can be applied to develop more effective plans
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 behavioral aspects  of  disasters,  is  open  to  all interested
 scholars and  public and  private agencies involved in emergency
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 book, monograph,  and report  series.  There are close relations
 with Canadian, Mexican, Australian, Swedish, Japanese,  and West
 German disaster researchers, a number of whom have been visiting
 research associates at the Center for periods of  up to  a year,
 and  collaborative  field  research  is  currently underway with
 groups in Japan and Mexico.  An exchange program and  very close
 ties  with  Italian  researchers,  especially the Mass Emergency
 Program of the Institute of International  Sociology in Gorizia,
 Italy.

 Center  activities   have  been  supported  by  diverse  sources
 including the Health Resources  Administration;  the  Center for
 Applied  Social  Problems,  National Institute of Mental Health;
 the  Defense  Civil  Preparedness  Agency;  the  Water  Resource
 Research Program,  Department of the Interior; the State of Ohio
 Department of Mental Health; but major funding has been from the
 National   Science   Foundation,   and   the  Federal  Emergency
 Management Agency.

 If you  would  like  more  information  concerning  the Disaster
 Research Center or desire an updated Publications List, write to
 Margie Simmons, Office  Coordinator,  Disaster  Research Center,
 University of  Delaware, Newark,  Delaware, 19716, United States
 of America.

 ** Special note to PACKET-RADIO Readers **

     Anniversary Celebration Announcement

 The Disaster Research Center was formed in August, 1963.
 Thus, it will be 25 years old next month.

 To mark the occasion, an open house will be held at the Center's
 present location on the third floor of 102 East Main St., Newark,
 Delaware (U.S.A.).

 Time: Monday, August 22, 1988
           1 - 5 p.m.

 We hope you can take some time to visit us.

    - E.L. Quarantelli, Director
    - Russell R. Dynes
    - Dennis E. Wenger

 (Information forwarded by Bruce D. Crawford, Computer Services
   Coordinator, Disaster Research Center).

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From: bellcore!faline!thumper![e-mail] (Phil R. Karn)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: AMPRNET name domains
Summary: use of ampr.org
References: <[e-mail]>

The intent of "ampr.org" is that it be used WORLDWIDE by amateur radio
TCP/IP stations, without appending a country code. The reasoning was
that since amateur radio is an international activity, we already have
callsigns that are globally unique. Therefore there is no reason to add
country codes or region names to a domain name that includes a callsign.
We didn't want to have to add the ".org" field, but DARPA made us do
it.

In the other direction, the convention is to create your own little
private subdomain under your callsign. For example, I have three
machines in my shack with the domain names

sun.ka9q.ampr.org
pc.ka9q.ampr.org
switch.ka9q.ampr.org

and another one on a nearby tower named

hill.ka9q.ampr.org

This way you can use any name you want in the first field without
conflicting with anyone else's naming convention.

Phil


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From: att!richp1![e-mail] (Craig Peterson Counsultant)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Freedom Modem
Keywords: packet radios w/o license?
Distribution: usa

I was looking through August's PC Magazine, and saw a "small feature
(hands on)" on page 46 that describes a 4800 bps packet radio modem
that allows two pcs to communicate for about a 5 mile range.

The 11 paragraph article does have one line in it that says "You do need
an FCC license, however".  I called the company, and the person I spoke
with (who was not the Freedom Modem "specialist") said the only thing
I needed was an external antenna.  No mention of the fq it operates
on, or what kind of license I would need.  I asked her to send me any
literature they have on it.

The article says that it is based on packet technology developed by
the DoD and can handle packets up to 1010 bytes long.

I wonder if this unit runs on 49MHz, if it is compatible with standard
TCP/IP implementations, etc.  Anyone have any ideas, or know any more
about it?

Craig, N8INO

craig@richp1 -or- craig@n8ino


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From: uunet!van-bc![e-mail] (Samuel Lam)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: AMPRNET name domains
Summary: More questions.
Keywords: .ampr.org domain sub-domain registration questions
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Phil Karn wrote:
>The intent of "ampr.org" is that it be used WORLDWIDE by amateur radio
>TCP/IP stations, without appending a country code. The reasoning was
>that since amateur radio is an international activity, we already have
>callsigns that are globally unique. Therefore there is no reason to add
>country codes or region names to a domain name that includes a callsign.
>...
>In the other direction, the convention is to create your own little
>private subdomain under your callsign.

Is there a central registry for the AMPR.ORG second level sub-domain
that each amateur much register his/her callsign.AMPR.ORG sub-domain
before he/she can use it?  Or could one uses this sub-domain as soon
as one get his/her licence and call-sign?

Also, where should a licenced amateur go to get a [44.?.?.?] Internet
address assigned to his/her TCP/IP station?

Thanks.

...Sam

P.S.  If you post the answers, please also send me a copy of the posting
by e-mail, it seems that we never get all the articles in this newsgroup
here (network lossage?).

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From: Todd Enders WD0BCI <[e-mail]>
Subject:      re: Freedom modem.
To: [e-mail]


     The data sheet says that it operates in the 75 MHz. "business band".
I believe that it uses the ALOHA protocol (CS/MA).  The data sheet states
that an FCC license is required for operation (albeit in small print).
I'd be more specific, but I can't find the data sheet right now.

73,

Todd Enders WD0BCI
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From: mimsy!aplcen!wb3ffv![e-mail] (Howard Leadmon)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Packet Software for PCs?
Summary: Avalible from BBS as well...
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Phil R. Karn) writes:
> > It would seem that one could operate packet with all the protocol software
> > resident on a PC (in my case, clone) with an external modem on a COM port.
> > This would give the advantage of being able to put probes in the software
> > to diagnose packet problems.
> >
> > Does anyone know of the existence of such software in source form for the
> > IBM PC?
>
> Yes, my software (the "KA9Q Internet Protocol Package") works exactly as
> you describe.
> [Misc omitted...]
>
> The software, including source code, is available free for noncommercial
> use from a number of places. The easiest, if you're on the ARPA
> Internet, is louie.udel.edu (10.0.0.96) under /pub/ka9q using anonymous
> FTP. The relevant files are of the form net_*.arc and tnc_*.arc; they
> were created with the PKARC utility. Remember to use image or binary mode
> when retrieving them.
>
> Phil

  I also bring the most current packages of the KA9Q package down from
louie.udel.edu and ucsd.edu, and they are avalible for anybody to login
to the BBS and download. I keep packages and utilities for the PC, Mac,
Amiga, Atari ST, Etc.. on the system, and all hams are welcome to pick
the code off the machine, as all users are permitted suffecient download
time to do this. Here is the information on how to access the BBS:

 Login: bbs
 Password: [NONE]
 Baudrates: 1200,2400,9600,19200   (9600 & 19200 with Telebit Trailblazer)
 Phone Number: (301)-335-1955

 The system is an 80386 machine running UNIX V.3, and has 190meg of online
storage, so there are a lot of nice archives on the system. The system with
few exceptions should be online 24hrs/7days, so feel free to call anytime. If
you call and have a useful program for HAM's, PLEASE upload as well as take,
since this is what will make the system useful to all the HAM's...


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From: bellcore!faline!thumper![e-mail] (Phil R. Karn)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: TNC2 <> FT-736R Interfacing
Summary: emphasis and other brain-damaged things
Keywords: TNC2 Packet FT-736
References: <[e-mail]>

When you have direct access to your rig's modulator and demodulator
(i.e., bypassing the regular voice pre- and de-emphasis networks)
you're better off bypassing the filters in the TNC as well. TNC-2s and
clones have MF-10 switched capacitor filters, and they can be fairly
easily bypassed by just pulling the chips and soldering a few jumper
wires to the bottom of the board. I've done that here and it works well.

You must be careful to set your deviation properly when using a direct
modulator connection, since you are bypassing the limiters that normally
hold you to 5 KHz or so. If you don't have an IFR or similar service
monitor, you can still set deviation pretty accurately with a SSB
receiver for the channel frequency by looking for the carrier nulls that
correspond to specific values of modulation index.  In fact, this
technique is often more accurate than an IFR, though it is certainly
more tedious.

Phil


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From: hplabs!hpda!hpcuhb!hpcilzb!hpcea!hpnmdla![e-mail] (Glenn Elmore)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: GLB Netlink
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/ hpnmdla:rec.ham-radio.packet / [e-mail] (Tony Angerame) /  3:56 pm  Jul  8, 1988 /
>Has anyone had experience with the GLB Netlink or the AEA high speed 220mhz
>data transceivers ? We are planning a Unix/Vax to 220mhz portable link using
>TCP/IP. Any comments or suggestions on the hardware or our application would
>be most appreciated.
>
>                                                         73  Tony WA6LZH
>
>----------
Tony,
   I don't have any experience with either unit but I do have a pair of
WA4DSY modems and some microwave hardware to run them on. I am interested
in any TCP/IP activity here in northern CA. I have a good shot to Berkely
>from my home QTH here in Santa Rosa. If you are/will be active I might be
interested in supplying one end of a, say, 10 GHz link for somewhere down
your way. Dale, WA4DSY seemed to think it should run at >100Kbaud with
slight clock and filter alterations.

Glenn Elmore -N6GN-

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From: fluke![e-mail] (Paul Lutt)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: TNC2 <> FT-736R Interfacing
Summary: Observations on TNC2 vs. MFJ-1270B
Keywords: TNC2 Packet FT-736
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Rolfe Tessem) writes:

> I'm just getting a new Yaesu FT-736R up and running, and have run into a
> problem interfacing it with my TNC2 clone, in my case an MFJ-1270B.  The
> FT-736 has a data in/out jack that allows direct connection of the TNC to
> the FM modulator and demodulator in the transceiver -- that is, it bypasses
> pre- and de-emphasis circuits in the audio stages.  This should be a good
> thing, but the TNC2 already compensates for these by adding pre and de-
> emphasis of it's own.  ...
*** Rest of text elided ***

While I don't have a solution for the problem Rolfe seems to be having,
I do have an observation about the differences between a TAPR TNC2 and
the MFJ-1270B.

I recently read an article in 73 magazine (in the now defunct packet
column) about how to connect a TNC2 directly to the FM demodulator in a
transceiver.  The author states that the TNC2 includes a switched
capacitor filter at the input which is supposed to compensate for the
non-linear audio bandwidth of most transceivers.  It seems that many
transceivers boost the bass response to make up for the tiny speakers
they use in the units.  The switched capacitor filter is supposed to
compensate for this bass pre-emphasis.  (Note that this is in addition
to the normal pre-emphasis/de-emphasis used in transmitter/receiver).

Having read this article, I decided to look at my packet setup a bit
closer.  Looking at the MFJ-1724 manual, it soon became apparent that
there was no switched capacitor filter present in the circuit.  The MFJ
board is a licensed copy of the TAPR TNC2 pc-board.  The location where
the switched capacitor filter would normally exist is left empty and a
few jumper wires bridge the audio to the next stage.

There are a few RCs in the path that may be attempting to do the same
job the switched capacitor filter did.  I have to admit my analog
theory is rusty enough that I'm not sure what their function might be.

The bottom line is that I can take the FM demodulator output from my
Kenwood TM-221A and run it directly into the TNC audio input.  This
combination seems to work quite well.

I just thought readers might be interested in this info.  I'm happy
with the MFJ TNC and it seems to work as advertised.  Rolfe might want
to double check his connections and make sure they are correct.  His
setup sounds similar to mine and it seems like it should work.

73,

Paul - KE7XT
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (kenk) writes:
>  I have some modifications (improvements? :-) ) I would like to make.
>Primarily I want to force an AX25 connection to send all received data
>to the mailer. Most of my friends not running TCP are in the habit of
>connecting - leaving a short message - and disconnecting. The only reason
>I am not running the TCP software is that with the current code the message
>is thrown away if I'm not present to read it as it comes in. The other
>modifications are specific to my situation ( 1 tnc, 1 radio, two hams - make
>it recognize two callsigns, add a CTEXT message to satisfy the AX25 users).

   A while back, I added an AX.25 personal mailbox.  It gives the user
a signon message and menu, and allows him  (or her) to enter SMTP
mail, page the owner for chat, or disconnect.  The code is a bit crude,
but does the job.  You can find it among the net/rom code in nrbdale.arc
on louie.
   Phil now tells me he intends to merge this stuff in some time soon.

   73, Dan, W9NK


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Please can you tell me, how can I get more Information about
the packet-radio list.
Best regards
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From: decwrl!muscat!jfcl.dec.com![e-mail] (Fred R. Goldstein)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Henry Minsky) writes:

>As I was getting some juice in the cafeteria this morning, I saw a group of
>three IBM looking people sitting at a table with these little terminals the
>size of a VHS videocassette. They had what looked like two-line 40
>character displays, and little calculator keyboards.
>  The people said they were IBM service persons, and these little gadgets
>had radio transmitters, which talked to a nearby cell, which talked to
>Burlington, which talked thru a satellite to Kentucky. I saw a guy send a
>message. The little machine put up "RF transmitting" or something on its
>display, and a minute or two later, it beeped and said the message was
>sent.
>
>  I wonder if they use SNA or something? Probably not.

About five years ago I saw those at a Motorola private trade show.
Motorola's hand-held radio terminals were built for a LARGE order from
IBM (pretty much the whole service force, I'd guess, at least stateside)
and indeed do use SNA!  At least they appear to emulate a 3270, somehow,
somewhere, according to what they told me.

Also, they (like most Motorola alphanumeric devices) used something
called Golay Sequential Keying.  Anybody know what that is?

While I'm not too fond of SNA (:-) note the Organization named above),
I suspect that we hams are nowhere near "state of the art" in basic
digital rf (radio modem) technology.  Perhaps we should plagiarize
>from Motorola rather than from 1962 Bell surplus :-(.  Not to mention
1976 CCITT surplus protocols.
      fred k1io


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Keywords: books, magazines, articles


I'm a non-ham who is quickly developing a keen interest in packet radio.
(I will probably try for a license in the next few months.)

What books, magazines and other publications do you folks recommend? I'm
an EE with 4 years experience in datacomm, so I like the more technical
stuff. eg. modem, protocol and software design.

Doug Konrad
Edmonton, Alberta

alberta!edson!doug
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Msg # 9306  Type:B  Stat:$  To: ALL   @NETROM  From: K3AKK   Date: 880728/0645
Subject: Only the penultimate straw!
Bulletin ID: 25587_N4QQ
R:880727/0628z 5510@WA3ZNW [Wheaton,Md 20906] F:145.09/446.075 N:DC
R:880727/0519z 25587@N4QQ   [Silver Spring MD/WashDC]
From: K3AKK@N4QQ

     In  reference  to  WB3FFV's  relay  of  K5ZC's  "The  Last   Straw!!!"
concerning  latest  antics  of  WA8DED,  author  of NetRom:  K5ZC suggests,
properly, in my opinion, that everyone reprogram their NetRom EPROM's  with
TheNet  firmware.  The  final  insult  is  that  in  version 1.3 of NetRom,
Software 2000 has crippled the EPROM just above HEX 4000 so that it  cannot
be  reprogrammed.  This  is akin to burning laser holes in floppy disks for
copy protection, only a little more destructive.  Dick - K3AKK @ N4QQ
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Msg # 9279  Type:B  Stat:$  To: NETROM@MDCBBS  From: WB3FFV  Date: 880727/1027
Subject: NET/ROM - The LAST Straw !!
From: WB3FFV@W3ITM


   Hello NET/ROM owners,

 I felt this message was of  enough  importance  that  it  deserved  to  be
distributedthrough  the  local/national  channels.  As  an  owner  of  both
NET/ROM and TheNET software, I was completley disgusted to read the message
that  follows.  In fact I will very soon be removing the NET/ROM nodes that
I have installed as BARC and #BARC and replacing them with TheNet.  I  WILL
NOT support any orginazation that is will to dump all over amateur radio if
they think they can make a buck while doing it, and in  carrying  out  this
practice they have already done permenant damage to our hobby!!!

                     73's.....
                     Howard Leadmon  (WB3FFV @ W3ITM)

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Date: Mon, 25 Jul 88 10:53:51 PDT
From: uunet!ucsd.edu!brian (Brian Kantor)
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I've been watching the NET/ROM vs.  TheNET wars for  some  time,  but  with
only  passing interest (my main packet interest is TCP/IP).  The flamage is
moderately interesting, but I didn't really care.

This changed for me about a week and a  half  ago,  when  I  learned  of  a
particularly despicable action taken by Software 2000's Ron Raikes, WA8DED,
who I understand is the  author  of  NET/ROM.  I  learned  that  Ron,  upon
discovering  that  the  Jet  Propulsion  Laboratory  Radio Club, W6VIO, had
installed a TheNET node, went to the director of JPL and demanded that  the
node  be removed from the air, using his allegations of piracy as leverage.
The director then had one of JPL's patent attorneys order the club to  take
it down immediately, and not replace it.

This action goes well beyond the bounds of good amateur practice, much less
common  decency.  In  so doing, Ron Raikes established Software 2000 as the
Lotus Development of amateur radio - for he expressed the same attitude  as
Lotus:  "We're  it,  and  if you get in the way of our profits, then you're
going down." In so doing, he greatly damaged one  of  the  clubs  which  is
responsible for much of the good going on in amateur radio:  W6VIO has been
in the forefront of the amateur radio/space activities, and was the station
that  brought  the  Voyager  pictures to slow-scan TV; they're also heavily
involved in AMSAT, and were one of  the  primary  outlets  for  the  launch
information net for AMSAT-Oscar 13.  What do you think the response they'll
get the next time that they go to the administration at JPL for something?

Ron, of course, didn't care.  He wanted to protect his $69.95 per node, and
all those juicy $39.95 upgrade fees - the good of ham radio be damned.

There is not a single authentic NET/ROM node  left  in  the  Houston  area,
because  of  the  high-handed  attitude of Software 2000.  They've all been
erased and reprogrammed with TheNET instead.  I've seen  Ron's  comment  on
CompuServe  about  "why,  Software  2000  is  well respected in the amateur
community"...maybe elsewhere, but not in southeast Texas.  Here, it's  mud,
and  the  W6VIO action hurt even worse. (One of the members there, Courtney
Duncan, N5BF, comes from here.) Software 2000 has lost  all  hope  of  ever
selling a chip in the Houston area.

I also understand that the current version of NET/ROM refuses  to  talk  to
TheNET.  This,  if  true, will only be a temporary measure, as someone will
figure out the problem and fix it; however, it merely reinforces the image.

What do I suggest?
Throw your NET/ROM in the trash.  No, don't do that; erase  it  and  put  a
KISS  code  in  it instead, and then get KA9Q's TCP/IP package (it's freely
available, for non-commercial use - which translates  to  freely  available
for  the amateur community, since all amateur use is non-commercial).  Hang
a cheapie PC-clone next to it.  Run an IP switch  instead  of  the  NET/ROM
switch.

Now, what's REALLY  needed  is  a  TNC-2  ROM  containing  a  dedicated  IP
switch...

73, Jay
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What Henry saw is a Motorola KDT-800 portable terminal. It uses a
proprietary forward error correcting protocol to do a really great
job of transferring data. It's not just a terminal, it also does
quite a bit of computing. The box contains 2 CMOS 6803 processors
and at least 80K of RAM. It is a neat box!
I haven't played with one since leaving Motorola about 3 years ago,
but I understand they have really advanced the things in the areas
of display and processing power. By the way, that project and its
predecessor, the Motorola RDX-1000 had quite a bit of effect on Ham
packet radio. An RDX-1000 portable was the first handheld on ham
packet, back in late 1981 or 1982. Time flys...
73, Jack Brindle, WA4FIB


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From: ihnp4!richp1![e-mail] (Craig Peterson Counsultant)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Henry Minsky) writes:

>  The people said they were IBM service persons, and these little gadgets
>had radio transmitters, which talked to a nearby cell, which talked to
>Burlington, which talked thru a satellite to Kentucky. I saw a guy send a

>  I wonder if they use SNA or something? Probably not.

>Henry, N1EZP

I spoke with a friend of mine who used to work for Motorola.
He said that they designed those packet terminals under a contract
>from IBM, and that he worked on the project.

Evidently the terminals use a special protocol that is designed to
provide for a high degree of error correction for the type of problems
that are typically experienced by those type of high fq devices.
I can't remember if he said that they were FM or not, but problems such
as picket fencing, etc. generate bit errors in a fairly regular fashion.
Evidently the packets sent had the bits sent in a special order, and
special checksums generated that allowed for reconstruction of a damaged
packet at the receiving end.  This of course cut down on the traffic
generated by retransmissions.

Its been a few months since our conversation, and he has moved across
the country since, but I think that I got it right.

[e-mail]  -or-  [e-mail]


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From: janus![e-mail] (Tony Angerame)
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Has anyone had experience with the GLB Netlink or the AEA high speed 220mhz
data transceivers ? We are planning a Unix/Vax to 220mhz portable link using
TCP/IP. Any comments or suggestions on the hardware or our application would
be most appreciated.

                             73  Tony WA6LZH


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The Subject says it all. Is there (or is anyone working on)
a driver for the WD ethernet card? Thanks for any pointers.

(sorry if this is the umpteenth time this query has come up,
I dont usually read this group)

Eric
([e-mail])


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From: att!whuts!homxb!hotps!ka2qhd![e-mail] (Jim Dockery)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: IBM scoops us
Keywords: portable terminals


I posted the net message about "IBM scoops us" on several area packet bbs
systems knowing full well that we are surrounded by big blue employees in
this area and at least one of them has to be on the air.

Here is what I received from Errol, WA2SYG, who just happens to be one
of the guys using the terminal.

73, Jim
-------
Saw your message on a few of the local BBS. I am one of the guys
you refer to as an IBM TSR.

I know that information, in regards to what we call the "PT"
which is short for portable terminal, is hard to come by so let
me tell you some of what I know about it.

The PT is a 28 ounce, battery powered, hand-held terminal with TELCO and RF
capability. It is composed of the following functional elements:
A 54-character, dot-matrix liquid-crystal display. The 54 characters are
displayed on two lines of 27 characters each.

It has set of LCD indicators that signal the state of various functions in the
PT.

An alphabetic keyboard arranged basically the same as a standard typewriter.

A ten-key numeric keypad arranged in the configuration of a calculator.

Functional keys to control the display, the RF transmitter, and other special
PT functions.

A hexadecimal/decimal calculator with memory and special function capability.

A digital RF transmitter/receiver.

A duplex modem that can be connected to the public switched network by either
an acoustic coupler or directly via an RJ 11c jack.

Dual microprocessor architecture which is based on the Motorola 6801 design

One processor is dedicated to the communications function while the other
handles the unit's data processing.

You wouldn't know it by looking at it externally, but it has 160k bytes of ROM
and about 90k bytes or RAM.

I know it transmits in the 800Mhz range. I would have to pull the battery to
give you the exact frequency, but I have monitored the freq on my scanner.

Its the latest in high tech, and I often think of it as IBM star wars, HI.

As I think of its capability I'll jot it down.

You were right in the way it used satellite transmission to get
to main data bank.

Oh yes, It has two set of batteries. A main battery
(rechargeable) and a keep-alive (storage retention ) battery  for
RAM and for continuous power to the real-time click. I have been
using it for over 12hrs before a low battery indication comes on.
When it drops to 9hrs I usually replace the battery.

Incidentally the charger is also something to behold. It can charge two
batteries at the same time, one in the PT and a spare in the extra charging
position. It has two charging rates which is done automatically. Rapid and
trickle. A deep discharge ability is included to prevent battery memory.

Let me know if you need any other info.

I have some books on it somewhere around here and might be able to scroung up
some additional info.

Regards.   Errol  -  Wa2syg

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From: uunet!w3vh![e-mail] (Rolfe Tessem)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: TNC2 <> FT-736R Interfacing
Keywords: TNC2 Packet FT-736

I'm just getting a new Yaesu FT-736R up and running, and have run into a
problem interfacing it with my TNC2 clone, in my case an MFJ-1270B.  The
FT-736 has a data in/out jack that allows direct connection of the TNC to
the FM modulator and demodulator in the transceiver -- that is, it bypasses
pre- and de-emphasis circuits in the audio stages.  This should be a good
thing, but the TNC2 already compensates for these by adding pre and de-
emphasis of it's own.  I could take the easy way out and hook it up to the
external speaker jack and the microphone input, but obviously I'd like to
use the dedicated connection if it's possible.  The most obvious symptom
on transmit is that the modulation level is way too low, but no packets
are making it through on receive either.  Trimming R76 has no effect at
all that's discernable when monitoring on another receiver.

Anyone got any ideas?
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From: ll-xn!oberon!hamal.usc.edu![e-mail] (Dick Mead)
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I am curious about the Hamtronics MO-96 MODEM, a 9600 bps RF modem for packet.
Does anyone have any data on it? I tried to call Hamtronics [phone]
and got a "disconnected" message..the number was from Aug.88 of 73 Mag..

Tnx & 73's

Dick WB6NGC
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From: Rick Troth <[e-mail]>
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In-Reply-To:  Fred's message of Wed 6 Jul 88 21:08:49 GMT

    (you said you thought the boxes emulate a 3270)

    Like  *so very much*  of the IBM world,  3270 tubes have a
mix of some really great features and some really stupid features.
Don't know much about SNA;  we don't run it here.

                             - 73 - Rick
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Date: 26 Jul 88 11:14:37 GMT
From: uunet!mcvax!ukc!stc!idec![e-mail] (Gareth Howell)
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Subject: Source Availability for TNC Software?
Keywords: tcp/ip ax25 ax.25

Does anybody know of any public domain AX.25 TNC software?  I want to
modify the Level 2 code to introduce level 2 acknowledgements, to ease
network congestion without introducing NET/ROM or something similar.

The idea is to create a more reliable sub-network that I can use IP
over.  I want to create stand-alone nodes in the subnet that will
connect nodes running tcp/ip.  The alternatives are to make those
nodes more reliable at level 2, or to incorporate IP into the TNCs
that make up those nodes.

Any Thoughts?
73 Gareth

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