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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: Re: MENSTRUAL EXTRACTION AND THE 5-WEEK LIMIT
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- References: <nyikos.720223561@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <1d93iqINN1li@horu <1992Nov5.003830.25563@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
- Date: 10 Nov 92 20:40:05 GMT
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- In <1992Nov5.003830.25563@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> smgarvin@nyx.cs.du.edu (susan garvin) writes:
-
- >Oh, please. Nyikos commented briefly that there is no consensus
- >on the safety of menstrual extraction, and then proceded to
- >rant about it as if it is completely safe.
-
- GrotesqueGarvinesqueDistillation. I gave data to show it could be very safe
- in the proper hands: data from the 1960's and early 1970's, with a
- mortality rate much better than the average for 1st trimester abortions.
- It can be unsafe in the wrong hands, like women inducing abortion on themselves
- with equipment bought at a Tupperware-style party. {The equipment is the
- right kind, but the user is untrained.}
-
- > (Of course, Nyikos
- >would decrease its safety by requiring the use of other
- >instruments in the procedure, so he's not even superficially
- >convincing that safety is his motivation.)
-
- Garvin, you may not be lying by your own twisted standards, but you're
- so close, you leave me with no alternative but to repost my whole post.
- Let readers decide, afterwards, how true your asinine statement is.
-
- Look for it tomorrow, or the day after, at the latest.
-
- >RU-486 has an excellent safety record, but Nyikos has not
- >stated his support for its use.
-
- The second statement is true, and the reason is that the first statement
- is false. See _RU 486 Misconceptions, Myths and Morals_ by three pro-choice
- feminists: Renate Klein, Janice Raymond, and Lynette Dumble. Published
- in Australia, 1991, Spinifex Press.
-
- BTW I met Prof. Raymond earlier this year. She said some eye-opening
- things about how women are being exploited worldwide by the technocrats
- of reproduction, with RU-486 only one of many ingredients.
-
- Look on pp. 98-99 of that book to see how feminists were silenced and
- ignored on the dangers of Prostaglandins. The same is true of RU-486.
- One of the authors wanted to tell people about the dangers of RU-486
- for women at a conference of pharmacologists, and the moderator said,
- "Will someone take that microphone away from that woman?" before she
- could even begin on her long list.
-
- BTW these pro-choice feminists are very supportive of menstrual
- extraction.
-
- One free clue: RU-486 is no longer given to habitual smokers in France
- because of one who died from the drug.
-
- Peter Nyikos
-
-