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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: Re: Male Choice Revisited
- Message-ID: <nyikos.721589850@milo.math.scarolina.edu>
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- Organization: USC Department of Computer Science
- References: <1992Nov5.022416.3257@zooid.guild.org> <1dbopeINNqvf@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com>
- Date: 12 Nov 92 17:37:30 GMT
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- In <1dbopeINNqvf@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
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- >In article <1992Nov5.022416.3257@zooid.guild.org> Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org> writes:
- >>From: regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard)
- >>AR> Oh, come on. What you are really saying is to hell with the thousands
- >>AR> of years of legal precident our western culture has relied upon.
- >>
- >>But, you don't seem to object to "saying to hell" with the thousands of
- >>years of legal precdents which are to the perceived disadvantage of women.
- >>
- >>So why object to attempting to change legal precedents which are perceived to
- >>be disadvantageous to men?
-
- >Ah, the big question. The $64,000 question.
-
- >WHO DO YOU THINK ends up paying, Will?
-
- >The taxpayer. Now, I don't know about you, but *I* am a taxpayer, and I'm
- >not terribly excited about paying, not only for my children, but for ALL
- >the OTHER children out there in the world. I don't make enough money for
- >that.
-
- I don't think Adrienne spends much on children anywhere outside the USA
- in taxes. As for the USA, Adrienne said something not so awfully long
- ago about how in the not too distant future, social security is going
- to be in big trouble, or something like that, prompting me to say:
- "Sonofagun! Adrienne CAN be sensible if she wants to!" She does not,
- however, seem to have made the connection between her supporting children
- today and all those "children" supporting her in her retirement.
-
- [I know this is blatantly *ad hominem*, but I can't help wondering whether
- Adrienne is training her children to be just as non-altruistic as she is,
- and I wonder whether they will take her into their homes in her old age.]
-
- >>And after all, (allow me to take the Devil's Advocate once more...) if it is
- >>apparently true (as many in the womrn's movement say) that fighting to right
- >>the wrongs suffered by women, will not only not harm men, but *help* them,
- >>then why should fighting the wrongs suffered by men be harmful to women?
-
- >Because of the cost to the TAXPAYER, Will. It can (and has) been argued
- >that allowing women into the workplace results in a broader tax base and
- >a redistribution of wealth without significant charges to the taxpayer,
- >and, argued probably less successfully, but there are many factors to
- >consider, that women in the workforce has upped our productivity, made
- >better use of the US's overall talent and kept us from falling even deeper
- >into recession than we have.
-
- Adrienne seemed to be driving towards a point in the first sentence of
- the above paragraph, then veered off. Unless, of course, she is arguing
- that women are by nature more productive and talented than men.
-
- > To the taxpayer, the question is not "is it
- >right? Is it good?" Rather the question is "DOES IT COST ME ANY MONEY???"
-
- >Think about it.
-
- Seems like Taxpayer Regard does not ask herself
- the question, "Am I likely to benefit from this in the long run?"
- Maybe she should think about it.
-
- Peter Ny.
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