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- From: lippard@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (James J. Lippard)
- Newsgroups: sci.skeptic
- Subject: Re: Harmony Of The Gospels?
- Message-ID: <13NOV199212394983@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu>
- Date: 13 Nov 92 19:39:00 GMT
- References: <1992Nov10.135554.1@cs2.lamar.edu> <roelle.721501117@uars_mag>
- <12NOV199213240516@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> <roelle.721608957@uars_mag>
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- In article <roelle.721608957@uars_mag>, roelle@uars_mag.jhuapl.edu (Curtis Roelle) writes...
- >lippard@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (James J. Lippard) writes:
- >
- >>Eyewitnesses don't get everything right (unless, of course, they are
- >>being divinely guided so that their every word is accurate). But when
- >>there are conflicts between eyewitnesses, it is clear that *at least
- >>one of them is wrong*. This conclusion is not one which a biblical
- >>literalist is willing to draw.
- >
- >But for non-literalists four gospels are better than two.
-
- But not much better, since three of them (the synoptics) are not independent
- sources.
-
- >
- >EXAMPLE: For flight hardware I specify a [3x] majority voting RAM
- >because I know that when my software reads a bit while located in the
- >Van-Allen Belts I can assume that one of the three bits has experienced
- >a single event upset -- and I can accept that, because the other two
- >bits make a majority.
- >
- >> Also, if one witness says an airplane's engine fell off while another
- >>says the plane was shot down by an alien spacecraft, there is reason to
- >>believe that more is going on than the typical errors of perception and
- >>memory that plague eyewitness accounts.
- >
- >It is not clear what alien spacecraft have to do in this discussion of
- >gospels and airline disasters. When CNN had eyewitness accounts of the
- >air crash at LAX a year or so ago, none of the eye-witnesses that I saw
- >mentioned aliens. Some saw a flaming plane descending onto the ruway,
- >but others saw no flames until the crash and subsequent explosion.
- >
- >The point is any of these witnesses by themselves sounded plausible. None
- >had outlandish tales of marauding saucers firing phasers set to kill. Put
- >two reasonable though different eyewitness accounts side by side, and
- >suddenly things start to look funny. More information is needed, such
- >accounts from from other witnesses.
- >
- >It seems that four gospels is as good as the 1st century can pass on.
- >There were no videotapes, movies, or even (as far as I know) paintings
- >made live on the scence of the crucifiction. 1st century evidence on
- >its surface seems silly by 20th century standards. The point is that
- >discounting the gospels just because they are in harmony instead of in
- >unison is not a good enough reason to reject all four as fiction.
-
- But when one gospel (Matthew) inserts stories like the resurrection of
- the saints at the time of the crucifixion, who traveled to the cities
- and made their presence known, this does seem to be analogous to alien
- spacecraft. (Especially since this not only is unreported by any other
- account, it doesn't seem to fit in well with what Matthew himself says.
- If all these resurrected people were walking around prior to Jesus'
- resurrection, why the surprise when Jesus himself showed up?)
-
- >Curt Roelle
-
- Jim Lippard Lippard@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
- Dept. of Philosophy Lippard@ARIZVMS.BITNET
- University of Arizona
- Tucson, AZ 85721
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