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- From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
- Subject: Re: Error in NO FTL Signal Proofs exposed.
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- References: <92317.082912MRG3@psuvm.psu.edu> <1992Nov12.152135.29581@sei.cmu.edu> <Nov.12.19.37.01.1992.405@ruhets.rutgers.edu>
- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 21:32:02 GMT
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- In article <Nov.12.19.37.01.1992.405@ruhets.rutgers.edu> bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner) writes:
- >firth@sei.cmu.edu (Robert Firth) writes:
- >[re Sarfatti]
- >>I'm not going to sound like a broken record, so this will be
- >>absolutely my last contribution to the debate: please, somebody,
- >>DO THE EXPERIMENT. This issue will never be decided on the
- >>basis of scripture, dogma, and anathema. Only Nature knows;
- >>go ask her.
- >
- >Look, Robert, you're not giving us credit. The issue is not, (1) does
- >this method of FTL communication exist? The issue is, (2) does
- >orthodox QM imply this possibility?
- >
- >(1) can only be tested by experiment, but no compelling reason has been
- >given to believe it. Unless you or anybody else is interested enough
- >to actually *fund* the experiment, it won't get done.
- >
- >On the other hand, (2) is possible to discuss mathematically. The
- >problem is that Sarfatti evades all attempts to construct a rigorous
- >description of his apparatus and calculations. You seem to have a
- >good grasp of quantum mechanics - so can you tell us what he's talking
- >about?
-
- I already told Robert this. Perhaps I wasn't sufficiently eloquent to
- get my point across. But let me just say that I agree completely with
- Benjamin Weiner's point. It makes perfect sense to argue about what can
- or cannot happen according to orthodox QM without doing any experiments.
- If Sarfatti claimed he had a NEW THEORY that contradicted orthodox QM
- one would have to see if his theory was consistent and met experimental
- tests. But he seems to be claiming that orthodox QM predicts FTL
- communication. Of course, his way of doing orthodox QM looks very
- unorthodox, i.e., wrong.
-