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- From: crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass)
- Subject: Re: Religion & Physics Don't Mix
- Message-ID: <1992Nov13.180157.24010@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
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- Organization: University of Virginia
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- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:01:57 GMT
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- In article <1dp3vgINN7n2@chnews.intel.com> bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton) writes:
-
- >Then I am utterly guilty of worshipping science; for I am
- >an inveterate empiricist.
-
- Worship at will. Do not confuse this with science.
-
- How is your inveterate 'empiricism' and worship thereof empirically
- based?
-
- >I've read Whitman's (or was it Frost's) descriptions of the
- >facets of the process of maturation in which one grows by
- >learning to consider ideas from a multitude of sides
- >without becoming unglued. (This is not the same thing as
-
- A book is no place from which to get ones spirituality?
- Obviously, you get yours straight from God, he said dryly.
-
- >tolerating fools, Corky.) Einstein's beliefs seem
-
- I like the cute name, Blair buddy. Reminds me of the
- 'debates' in second or third grade. Is this the brand of
- withering logic that you use to undermine the religious
- beliefs of the flock using 'science'? Good luck.
-
- >strangely sociological, as though he were afraid that being
- >both physically and spiritually revolutionary at the same
- >time would be too much for his society, or at least very
- >impolitic at a time when his stature was needed as much as
- >his theories. He joins with many here who think, "I want
- >it to exist; I try to prove it exists; I cannot prove it
- >doesn't exist; *therefore it can exist; therefore it
- >exists as much as I want." In the end the only reality is
- >that God existed for Einstein to suit his needs for a God.
- >God does not exist for me and I have no need for a god.
-
- A position you seem to sympathize with. You want your religion
- to be able to disprove all other religions. When you cannot
- do that, you seem to become agitated. Unfortunately, you have
- inappropriately given your religion the name 'science', otherwise
- there would be no problem here.
-
- >[*] There is a fallacy in crossing this point.
-
- Nope, not from the viewpoint of science. Better yet, why don't
- you explain what the fallacy is? Graphs and charts would be
- very helpful.
-
- >>I figure the best thing is to ignore them. Just like
- >>I ignore street preachers.
- >
- >The worst thing is to ignore anyone, if you have nothing
- >better to do. The best thing about street preachers is
- >their foundation is narrow so they're easy to tip over.
- >Tripping them up impresses intelligent women, too ;-).
-
- Or makes you look silly and arrogant. I hope you don't inappropriately
- use the imprimatur of science in such ridiculous pursuits.
-
- dale bass
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- C. R. Bass crb7q@virginia.edu
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- Aerospace and Nuclear Engineering
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