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- From: ric@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Ric Peregrino)
- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:25:16 GMT
- Subject: Re: jokes & sexisim in physics
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- Robert Merithew wrote:
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- >I'd like to point out that the apparent
- >popularity of such jokes among physicists and physics students
- >probably contributes to the very low participation of women in physics
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- To which I responded:
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- >Are you suggesting that women would enter a field because there
- >weren't sexist jokes told?
-
- To which Wendy Cornell responded:
-
- >So a woman is only justified
- >in feeling alienated in the physics community if other women *would*
- >be willing to enter other male-dominated fields if not for the sexist
- >comments?
-
- To which I say:
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- No. The only justification one needs for feeling alienated, is to be
- alienated.
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- What I think is that the jokes contribute very little to the disparity
- between women and men in physics. I'd guess environmental effects would
- be greatest, followed by barrier to entry, followed by harassment,
- followed by genetic differences. Well you might say that sexist jokes
- are a form of harassment.
-
- Harass: to trouble, worry, or torment, as with cares, debts, repeated
- questions, etc.
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- >I can only conclude that anyone who would tell a woman that such feelings
- >of alienation are unjustified is either insensitive or just not especially
- >bright.
-
- Actually, I'm as dumb as a post. But seriously folks, all I ment to say,
- was I don't think sexist joke telling is much of a contributor (read < 1%)
- to the lack of women in physics.
-
- How about a poll: what percentage of women don't enter physics becuase of
- sexist jokes?
-
- I'd guess .1%.
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