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- From: sichase@csa1.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Campfire and plasma musings
- Date: 6 Nov 1992 15:26 PST
- Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
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- In article <74055@apple.Apple.COM>, slovick@Apple.COM (Linda Slovick) writes...
- >
- >While watching my campfire as it burned down to coals, I got to
- >wondering about plasma.
-
- I'm going to answer your questions, but not in the order you posted them.
-
- >7.) Just what IS plasma, anyway? I remember from physics class
- >many (MANY!) years ago that plasma is supposed to be the fourth
- >state of matter, and have the vague general idea that it's
- >supposed to be a sort of superhot gas, but just what makes it a
- >whole different state?
-
- Plasma is a gas of ionized atoms. That's all. It's what you get when you
- heat a gas enough that the kinetic energy of the atoms is enough that
- when they happen to collide, electrons get knocked out of their orbits.
- You can also make it by applying a strong electric field to rip the
- electrons off their atoms, as in a spark.
-
- >4.) Is plasma somehow associated with ionization?
-
- You can answer this one now, yourself.
-
- >2.) Is a flame a plasma?
-
- Yes.
-
- >1.) Do campfire coals get hot enough that the "gas" coming off
- >of them is really a plasma, or is it still just a gas?
-
- Yes.
-
- >3.) Is there some hidden heat associated with the state
- >transition between a gas and a plasma like there is between the
- >other states?
-
- Yes. The energy of ionization, i.e., the tens of eV it takes to
- remove each electron from it's atom.
-
- >6.) Does a working florescent light contain a plasma?
-
- Yes again.
-
- >5.) I have played with one of those little Radio Shack plasma
- >ball toys, but am still pretty hazy about what it's doing. It
- >also doesn't seem to get at all hot, so is plasma always
- >associated with high temperature? If so, is there just too
- >little stuff in the plasma ball toy for high temperature to give
- >off much heat?
-
- I think so. The plasma channels in the gas are most certainly
- hot, but probably the gas is too rarified to heat the plastic shell
- enough to burn you.
-
- -Scott
-
- P.S. I love my IIci. You guys make a terrific product.
- --------------------
- Scott I. Chase "It is not a simple life to be a single cell,
- SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV although I have no right to say so, having
- been a single cell so long ago myself that I
- have no memory at all of that stage of my
- life." - Lewis Thomas
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