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- From: merithew@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (robert merithew)
- Subject: Re: jokes & sexisim in physics
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- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
- Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:31:12 GMT
- Keywords: sexism women women-physicists
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- carl@aoa.aoa.utc.com (Carl Witthoft) writes:
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- >x
- >Men just don't get it.
- >One of the things we don't get is that it's absurd for a bunch
- >of men to pontificate as to whether certain jokes are offensive
- >to women
-
- The question is not which jokes are 'offensive to women'. You don't
- have to be a woman to be offended by a sexist joke. Maybe it's 'which
- jokes alienate women' i.e. which jokes tell women they don't belong in
- this group.
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- >and whether this is part of the reason women avoid
- >science (or for that matter football).
- >Women know. The sooner men stop speaking for them and listening
- >to them, the better.
-
- When men participate in the discussion of gender bias in a field, they
- are *not* necessarily speaking *for* women.
-
- Do you think that men posting about sexism in this forum somehow
- prevents men from listening to women?
-
- I think sexism is not just a women's problem. It is a 'people'
- problem, and people should be able to work together to help solve it.
- I don't see why men should be excluded from the discussion.
-
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- Robert Merithew r-merithew@uiuc.edu
- grad student, Dept. of Physics
- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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