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- From: tycchow@phragmen.mit.edu (Timothy Y. Chow)
- Subject: Re: What's a manifold?
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- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 02:41:42 GMT
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- In article <SMITH.92Nov5132141@gramian.harvard.edu> smith@gramian.harvard.edu
- (Steven Smith) writes:
-
- >No one ever said that arbitrariness is necessarily bad;
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- Actually, a couple of us have implied it.
-
- >Sorry, but what is your definition specifically? If manifolds are
- >simply retracts of open sets of Euclidean space, then using this
- >definition, how is projective space a manifold ?
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- This is not a problem, as long as you embed in a high enough space. The
- projective plane, for instance, embeds nicely in R^4 and it's easy to make
- it into a retract of some tubular neighborhood.
-
- I don't think that people are giving enough credit to the retract
- definition. It is often very convenient to be able to introduce a tubular
- neighborhood around a manifold. The Jordan curve theorem is one example.
- With the classical approach, proving that manifolds can be embedded in
- Euclidean space is quite a major theorem. You do get some things almost
- for free with the retract definition. But as has already been pointed
- out there are other limitations to this approach.
- --
- Tim Chow tycchow@math.mit.edu
- Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and weighs
- 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and weigh
- only 1 1/2 tons. ---Popular Mechanics, March 1949
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