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- Subject: Re: Gravitation & massless particles (was Re: Some physics questions)
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- From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin)
- Date: 5 Nov 92 18:07:55 GMT
- References: <ksiew.720770120@munagin> <11264@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> <92Nov3.165317edt.629@neuron.ai.toronto.edu> <3NOV199215121855@csa2.lbl.gov>
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- sichase@csa2.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE) writes:
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- >In article <92Nov3.165317edt.629@neuron.ai.toronto.edu>, radford@cs.toronto.edu (Radford Neal) writes...
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- >>This relates to something that's bugged me for ages. In popular
- >>accounts, neutrinos are mentioned as one possibility for the "missing
- >>mass" needed to close the universe, PROVIDED THEY TURN OUT TO HAVE MASS.
- >>This also seems wrong. Regardless of whether they have mass, they
- >>definitely have energy, and that's all that counts, right?
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- >Yes. But the neutrinos have so little kinetic energy that even a small
- >mass (a fraction of an eV) would dominate the total energy of the
- >cosmic neutrino background, which if I remember correctly, is at even
- >lower temperature than the 3K photon background.
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- Also, the "yes" is not exactly right-- massless particles have a
- different stress-energy tensor than massive ones, so their
- gravitational effects are different. A Robertson-Walker universe
- filled primarily with EM radiation, for instance, evolves somewhat
- differently from one filled primarily with massive stuff. But this
- is a nitpick.
- --
- Matt McIrvin
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