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- From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: Axioms of set theory, infinity and R. Rucker
- Message-ID: <97168@netnews.upenn.edu>
- Date: 11 Nov 92 19:35:17 GMT
- References: <1992Nov6.133138.16642@prl.philips.nl> <96652@netnews.upenn.edu> <ARA.92Nov11024751@camelot.ai.mit.edu>
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- In-reply-to: ara@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Allan Adler)
-
- In article <ARA.92Nov11024751@camelot.ai.mit.edu>, ara@zurich (Allan Adler) writes:
- >What is the reference to this recent work of Matiyasevich and Jones?
-
- I remember a research announcement in BULL AMS, early 80s, with an
- explicit universal diophantine equation.
-
- >Also, I've never understood what a supercompact cardinal is. Would you
- >like to explain the concept?
-
- (In my campaign for ASCII fake Greek, I will use % for kappa and $ for
- lambda and @ for alpha. P%[X] denotes the set of %-sized subsets of X)
-
- A cardinal % is called measurable if there exists a non-trivial %-additive
- ultrafilter on it. This is equivalent (via an ultrapower of the whole
- universe construction) to the assertion that there is an elementary
- embedding j:V->M such that %<j(%) and % is the first cardinal moved,
- and M^@ is contained in M for @<%. Not all filters have quite the
- right properties for this construction--you have to work with what are
- called normal ultrafilters. There is also a notion, based on the desire
- for compactness theorems for infinitary logic, of strongly (and weakly)
- compact cardinals. In terms of ultrafilters, it works out that a cardinal
- % is strongly compact if for all $>%, P%[$] has a non-trivial %-additive
- ultrafilter. One would like to carry out the same normalization construction
- as for measurable cardinals, but the proof just doesn't happen. So a
- supercompact cardinal is _defined_ like the strongly compacts, but with
- the additional requirement that P%[$]'s filter is normal from the beginning.
- This leads, for any $>%, to elementary embeddings j:V->M such that % is
- the first cardinal moved, j(%)>$, and furthermore M^$ is contained in M.
-
- The general consensus seems to be that measurable cardinals are fairly
- reasonable beasties, with good inner-model theory, but that supercompacts
- are beyond any true comprehension. One indication of this is the recent
- taming of AD, at a level well below supercompact.
- --
- -Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)
-