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- From: cordes@ac.dal.ca (John Cordes)
- Newsgroups: sci.math,sci.math.symbolic
- Subject: Re: Help wanted in integration.
- Message-ID: <1992Nov10.231130.8776@ac.dal.ca>
- Date: 10 Nov 92 23:11:30 -0400
- References: <Nov.6.00.08.18.1992.2647@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <1992Nov10.031024.4001@wri.com> <1992Nov10.171604.8765@ac.dal.ca>
- Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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- In article <1992Nov10.171604.8765@ac.dal.ca>, cordes@ac.dal.ca (John Cordes) writes:
- > In article <1992Nov10.031024.4001@wri.com>, victor@tuamotu.wri.com (Victor Adamchik) writes:
- >> In article <Nov.6.00.08.18.1992.2647@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
- >> amarmahb@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Amar Mahboob Ali) writes:
- >>>
- >>> Hi
- >>>
- >>> Can anyone please help me in integrating the following.
- >>>
- >>> infinity
- >>>
- >>> / 4 2 2
- >>> | x sin (Pi a x) sin (Pi b x)
- >>> | ---------------------------- dx
- >>> | 2 2 2 2 2 2
- >>> / (x - d ) (x - c )
- >>>
- >>> -infinity
- >>>
- >>>
- >>> Where a,b,c and d are positive intergers.
- >>>
- >>> This function has double poles on the real axis. Hence theorems
- >>> related to computing such definite integrals dont seem to help me,
- >>> as they allow at the most a simple pole on the real axis. Is there
- >>> some other theorem that I can use? I would appretiate the least bit of
- >>> help on this.
- >>>
- >>> I am begining to think that there is no closed form solution.
- >>> Please help.
- >>>
- >>> Thanks
- >>>
- >>> Amar
- >
-
- > ***** Remarks by Cordes in previous posting **************************
- > I didn't see the original posting, but just wanted to throw in the
- > comment that there are _no_ poles on the real axis. The sine functions in
- > the numerator vanish (linearly) at integer values of x, thus cancelling the
- > vanishing denominators. Contour integration should handle the evaluation of
- > your integral without too much difficulty (1st deform the integration
- > contour away from the real axis, avoiding the points c,d; then introduce
- > the complex exponential forms for the sine functions and expand the
- > products in the numerator; close the contour appropriately for the various
- > pieces, and do a little residue calculus).
- >
- > If in fact the integrand _did_ have double poles on the real axis (the
- > integration contour) the integral would be divergent. When there are only
- > simple poles a finite value can be extracted by the Cauchy principal value
- > procedure.
- >
- > BTW, I haven't done the contour integration outlined above so have no
- > particular reason to doubt the solution found using Mathematica as given in
- > the next few lines. As I write this, however, inspection of the integral
- > posed suggests to me that it should be finite even for c=d, so I am
- > suspicious of the answer given.
- >
- >> ****** V. Adamchik's earlier results ****************
- >> I evaluated your integral in the closed form and
- >> hope the following answer is a correct for integer a,b,c and d: >
- >> if 0 < a <= b then (a*(c^2 + d^2)*Pi^2)/(16*(c^2 - d^2)^2)
- >> if 0 < b <= a then (b*(c^2 + d^2)*Pi^2)/(16*(c^2 - d^2)^2)
-
- >> I checked numerically (the precision was 6 digits) it for
- >> c = 2; d = 1; a = 3; b = 4
- >> c = 2; d = 1; a = 7; b = 4
- >> and
- >> c = 2; d = 4; a = 3; b = 4
- >> If you are interested to look at the
- >> proof send me email. I have
- >> used Mathematica to get that result.
- >> Victor Adamchik
- >> victor@wri.com
- ********************************************************************
-
- I've now done the integral by the contour integration technique I outlined
- previously; I get, for d not equal to c, a result which is exactly 4 times
- the result given by Adamchik above. A very limited numerical test, for the
- first of Adamchik's test cases, seemed to check out ok.
-
- For d equal to c the integral is harder to do (now a fourth order pole
- involved); my answer is
-
- if 0 < b <= a then (31/32)*Pi^2*b/c^2 + Pi^4*b^2*(a-b/3)/8.
-
- Interchanging a and b would give the result for a<b. However, I have not
- been able to numerically confirm this result. For a=4,b=3,c=2, my
- expression above gives 335.9265669..., whereas my best effort to evaluate
- the integral numerically gives 328.98100... . It is very difficult to get
- convergence for this integral, however, so I'm still not convinced that my
- algebra has gone astray.
-
-
- John Cordes, Dept. of Physics,
- Dalhousie University, Halifax, N.S.,
- Canada B3H 3J5 Internet: cordes@ac.dal.ca
-
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