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- From: fogel@ragu.berkeley.edu (Micah E. Fogel)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: What's a knot? (inspired by "What's a manifold?")
- Date: 7 Nov 1992 00:58:11 GMT
- Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
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- In article <COLUMBUS.92Nov6105242@strident.think.com> columbus@strident.think.com (Michael Weiss) writes:
- >...
- >This suggests that whenever we have a definition of the form
- >
- > "widgets are equivalence classes of wadgets under the boff
- > equivalence relation"
- >
- >we should look for a definition of a widget that doesn't mention wadgets or
- >boff...
- >
- >How would one define a (tame) knot, intrinsically? Definitions I am
- >familiar with either involve modding out by ambient isotopy (in fact there
- >are subtle points here, I believe-- perhaps someone more knowledgeable
- >would like to post), or by Reidemeister moves.
- >
- >Is the field just too young to have a suitably slick and (on first
- >encounter) unintuitive definition?
-
- When working with tame knots of S^1 in S^3, we now know that the
- knot (upto isotopy, and disregarding orientation information) is determined
- by the homeomorphism type of its exterior (or complement, whichever you
- prefer). Thus if you take manifold to be defined without using wadgets,
- so is a knot. Just "define" a knot as a 3-manifold with torus boundary
- that sits inside S^3.
- Micah Fogel
- fogel@math.berkeley.edu
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: What's a knot? (inspired by "What's a manifold?")
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- In article <COLUMBUS.92Nov6105242@strident.think.com> columbus@strident.think.com (Michael Weiss) writes:
- >...
- >This suggests that whenever we have a definition of the form
- >
- > "widgets are equivalence classes of wadgets under the boff
- > equivalence relation"
- >
- >we should look for a definition of a widget that doesn't mention wadgets or
- >boff...
- >
- >How would one define a (tame) knot, intrinsically? Definitions I am
-
- When working with tame knots of S^1 in S^3, we now know that the
- knot (upto isotopy, and disregarding orientation information) is determined
- by the homeomorphism type of its exterior (or complement, whichever you
- prefer). Thus if you take manifold to be defined without using wadgets,
- so is a knot. Just "define" a knot as a 3-manifold with torus boundary
- that sits inside S^3.
- Micah Fogel
- fogel@math.berkeley.edu
-