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- From: columbus@strident.think.com (Michael Weiss)
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- Subject: What's a knot? (inspired by "What's a manifold?")
- Date: 6 Nov 92 10:52:42
- Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
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- I would summarize almost all the discussion in favor of the atlas
- definition of a manifold in one phrase:
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- proofs drive definitions
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- in other words, old, "intuitive" definitions are replaced by new "abstract"
- definitions when the new definitions turn out to be more convenient for the
- logical development of the subject. If you require your manifolds to be
- imbedded in R^n, then you have to come up with an imbedding every time you
- construct a manifold, and this is often (to quote John Baez), "a pain in
- the butt".
-
- A second theme was the invariant aspect of the (maximal) atlas definition.
- One wants to regard two manifolds as "the same" if they have the same
- topological (or smooth, or conformal, or piecewise liner, or whatever)
- structure, so with an "imbedded" definition, you need to mod out by the
- equivalence relation.
-
- This suggests that whenever we have a definition of the form
-
- "widgets are equivalence classes of wadgets under the boff
- equivalence relation"
-
- we should look for a definition of a widget that doesn't mention wadgets or
- boff. If this involves generalizing the notion of a widget, fine-- "be
- wise, generalize" as I am told Zorn used to say. If not, we have a
- representation theorem.
-
- How would one define a (tame) knot, intrinsically? Definitions I am
- familiar with either involve modding out by ambient isotopy (in fact there
- are subtle points here, I believe-- perhaps someone more knowledgeable
- would like to post), or by Reidemeister moves.
-
- Is the field just too young to have a suitably slick and (on first
- encounter) unintuitive definition?
-