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- From: holmes@garnet.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes)
- Subject: Re: Impredicativity - was: Russell's Paradox
- Message-ID: <1992Nov6.192118.17092@guinness.idbsu.edu>
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- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:21:18 GMT
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- In article <TORKEL.92Nov5210509@lludd.sics.se> torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov5.170354.29866@guinness.idbsu.edu> holmes@garnet.idbsu.edu
- > (Randall Holmes) writes:
- >
- > >Neither A nor B can be shown to represent a unique object in ZFC-.
- >
- > Of course not! The question I was commenting on was whether it
- >is provable in ZF without foundation that if there is a function f
- >defined on the natural numbers satisfying f(n)={n,f(n+1)}, then there
- >is a set x such that x={1,x}, and my answer was that in all likelihood
- >this is not so.
-
- You were right; it is easy to construct an interpretation of ZFC- +
- VCP (nothing is an iterated element of itself) + existence of
- non-well-founded sets.
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- --
- The opinions expressed | --Sincerely,
- above are not the "official" | M. Randall Holmes
- opinions of any person | Math. Dept., Boise State Univ.
- or institution. | holmes@opal.idbsu.edu
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