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- From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
- Subject: Re: Larry Lippman [Actually a followup on the life extender project]
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- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 19:43:14 GMT
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- lmh@iago.caltech.edu (Henling, Lawrence M.) writes:
-
- >[This is a repost of Lippman article:]
-
- >From: larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman)
- >Newsgroups: sci.electronics
- >Subject: Re: incandescent light bulb life extender (Bogus Advice Warning!)
- >Summary: More on thermistors & Debunking Tall Tales from John DeArmond
- >Date: 15 Dec 90 04:54:19 GMT
-
- Now that everyone has seen Larry the Lid's rantings again, I thought
- the net might be interested in a followup to my experiment. (Wonder
- if the Lid can figure out a way to rebut this one from his hole in
- the ground.)
-
- Background: About two years ago I endeavored to find a method of extending
- the life of lightbulbs in my home and lab. My line voltage is an
- average of 128 volts, averaged over a day as measured by a Tripplet
- line voltage monitor. GE says lamp life varies as the 13th power of
- voltage deviation from the design point. The effect in my place
- was that bulb life was about 2 weeks or so.
-
- It has been almost exactly two years since I installed the thermistors
- in my den fixture and shortly thereafter, the fixture in the
- stairwell to my lab. The latter fixture is turned on and off dozens
- of times a day. During the two years since the start of the experience,
- I experienced a fire in my lab caused by a video terminal. Thus I've
- had experience with all the different things the Lid wrung his hands
- about.
-
- Here are the salient facts:
-
- * The original lamps are still in both fixtures. I carefully removed
- and stored them during the reconstruction after the fire. They have
- about a year and a half's actual use on them.
-
- * The 125 deg C Templaq spots I placed on the termistors are still
- intact.
-
- * I have since acquired a digital storage scope and hall effect
- current probe so I have been able to monitor the function
- of the thermistors in great detail. The thermistor holds the
- inrush current to about 125% of the normal operating current.
- That compares quite favorably to the estimated 6 times normal
- (my current converter is not fast enough to catch single cycles)
- without the thermistor.
-
- * There were a wide variety of "non-UL approved devices" in my lab,
- including several line-operated hardware prototypes. At no point
- did neither the fire marshal nor the insurance adjustors show
- any interest in these devices. In the case of my commercial
- policy, when the fire marshal certified the cause of the fire,
- the adjustor wrote me a check on the spot. Total elapsed time -
- about 3 days. Though I had problems on my homeowner's policy
- regarding shoddy work during the repair, there was NO problem
- either with "non-UL approved devices" being in the premises or
- with there being a business in the basement. At least here in
- Georgia, as long as arson is not involved, insurance has to pay.
-
- * The thermistors chosen were done so because the same series
- was found in a switching power supply in my lab. I like emulating
- success. Were I to do it again, I'd probably use the Keystone
- thermistors mentioned by the Lid. They were not, however, listed
- in my copy of the Digikey catalog at the time I started the experiment.
-
- * I have had Graybar and and Consolidated Electric look for the
- thermistor-based bulb extenders that go in the socket under
- the bulb. Though the countermen at both places claim to have seen
- them, neither has been able to find them. Any pointers would
- be appreciated. Note that I am NOT talking about the diode-type
- lamp life extenders that work by half-wave rectifying the line
- voltage.
-
- Summary: The experiment has been a success. I converted most of the
- house over to either halogen or CF fixtures so I probably won't be converting
- any more fixtures. If you use a lot of incandescent lamps and your bulb
- life is short, the thermistor modification is a very good thing to do.
-
- John
-
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