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- From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
- Subject: Re: Trade War?
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- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:17:38 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov12.183042.23658@beaver.cs.washington.edu> pauld@cs.washington.edu (Paul Barton-Davis) writes:
- >In article <BxM7Ft.L4n@apollo.hp.com> nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
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- >> Millions of US jobs depend on markets overseas. Major US companies
- >> like HP, Sun, Dec, IBM, Boeing, Caterpillar Tractor, Eastman Kodak,
- >> and many, many others do a big part of their business in exports.
- >
- >Schumacher doesn't address international trade explicitly. However, I
- >suspect that if he were alive today, he'd argue something like this:
- >there's nothing wrong with such trade, but having an the economy of a
- >given political (and by your own claim, *cultural*) entity dependent
- >on exporting things to other such entities that it does not control or
- >even necessarily share much with is a mistake. If we can't build
- >stable, healthy economies within the confines of a national boundary(*),
- >what makes us think we can do it within the confines of the entire
- >planet ?
-
- I don't think anyone is arguing that we _can't_ have a working,
- healthy, economy within the confines of a nation as large and
- diverse as the US. Rather I think that nobody sees any need
- to attempt this. If we did attempt to, in effect, isolate
- the US economy (ignoring for a moment the problem of isolating
- our capital and debt markets) we would lose the advantages of
- international markets:
-
- 1. The efficiencies of scale that allow us to enjoy lower
- prices on many goods.
-
- 2. The stimulating effects of foreign competition. Presumably
- the rest of the world would continue to enjoy the benefits
- of such competition and gradually their technology would
- surpass ours.
-
- 3. The jobs that are provided by US companies that do a lot
- of exporting, and the jobs that are provided by foreign
- companies doing business in the US.
-
- 4. The benefits of foreign ideas and technology to US prod-
- ucts. I mentioned the Canon engine in HP Laserjets but
- there are thousands of examples.
-
- 5. The benefits that we bring to the rest of the world in
- providing jobs and economic opportunities, especially to
- LDC's. While some of this may be thought of as exploitive,
- and indeed some of it IS exploitive, there is no question
- that the growing prosperity and standard of living of many
- other nations owes a great deal to trade with the US.
- And contrary to popular belief, it's not a zero-sum game.
-
- 6. The international outlook that comes with extensive foreign
- trade. According NPR the last 10 years have seen an explosion
- in foreign-language classes in the US, and much of this is
- attributed to greatly increased US foreign trade. America
- has always been an insular nation and this is a small breath
- of fresh air. I've traveled overseas on business, my wife
- travels extensively overseas on business, the assembly-line
- workers at Marysville were sent to Japan for training, etc.
- As the Economist headline said, "Trade is what makes the
- ship to go" (<-- what is the original source of this quote?)
-
-
-
- ---peter
-
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