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- From: amirza@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Anmar Caves)
- Subject: Re: Registering "Assault Keys"
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- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:51:53 GMT
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- In article <1dp5mpINNfat@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh) writes:
- >Yes and controlling peoples ability to commit violent acts is part of
- >the solution- not all of it, part of it.
- >Many of the guns used in crimes are stolen- stolen from all those law
- >abiding citizens who never use them. And if there are more available to
- >steal they are easier to steal.
-
- Nice assertation. Too bad it's false.
-
- >
- >> If you simply don't like handguns, fine. Don't own one.
- >
- >I don't know about the original poster but I don't like them in your, or
- >other peoples hands. Like you I feel that I am infinitely responsible
- >and would never never misuse any gun I owned Unfortunately I do not
- >have the same confidence in you, or others , and am willing to give up
- >my utterly responsile freedom in order to help protect me from other's
- >irresponsibility.
-
- You may be willing to give that up, but I am not, and furthermore, you
- have no right whatsoever to expect me to. You may ask politiely, and
- I'll decline politely. If you ask more forcefully, I'll respond in
- kind. Personally, I'd much rather my neighbors be armed and risk them
- being irresponsible (for which they'd be punished appropriately) than
- to trust the government, or their agents to protect me. Oddly enough,
- my neighbors have a much better chance of protecting me than the
- police do. Of course, I live in a place where people look out for one
- another, and where there are few restrictions on self-defense. We
- also have a fairly low crime rate.
-
- My next question is, are you going to protect me when someone breaks
- into my house at night? When I'm accosted at an intersection, when
- the government decides they don't like people under 5'8" and are going
- to ship them off to the gas chambers? No? I thought so.
-
-
- >> If you feel that they are just too dangerous for people to own, consider the
- >> numbers - there are about 200 million handguns in the US, and about 12000
- >> firearms homicides per year, and 1400 accidental firarms deaths. That makes
- >> firearms safer than automobiles.
- >>
- > Uh, hardly. divide the number of deaths by the number of times they
- >are used, not by the number. There are "billions" of molecules of cyanide
- >in the universe. That does not make them any the less dangerous when
- >used.
-
- So, what you're saying is that it's not the fault of the cyanide, but
- rather the one who uses it? Does this mean you don't feel cyanide
- should be banned? Careful how you answer, a lot of modern chemistry
- utilizes cyanide, it provides many many benefits to society. Even
- more odd, I can legally posses the chemicals to make hydrogen cyanide
- gas, in quantities big enough to wipe out a whole city, and it
- wouldn't even be that expensive (relatively). Personally the only
- self defense usage I can see for cyanide is in "mantraps" which are
- quite illegal. My point is that it makes no sense to think that just
- because I have the capability to murder (not kill, murder) that I
- should be locked up for it, for you'd have to lock everyone up because
- we *all* have the potential to murder.
-
-
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