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- Path: sparky!uunet!metaflow!rschnapp
- From: rschnapp@metaflow.com (Russ Schnapp)
- Subject: Re: New Encryption Method - a Challenge!
- Message-ID: <BxKAL5.LoE@metaflow.com>
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- Organization: Metaflow Technologies Inc.
- References: <n0e07t@ofa123.fidonet.org>
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:15:04 GMT
- Lines: 38
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- In article <n0e07t@ofa123.fidonet.org>, Erik.Lindano@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:
- |> The most peculiar thing about your rejection, and that of the other
- |> person who replied, is that both of you are rejecting the challenge
- |> _without having ever seen the product you are rejecting!_. This
- |> worries me immensely. Makes me wonder if you may not simply be
- |> avoiding the challenge under some pretenses. Am I mistaken?
- |>
- |> In my experience in the technical world, I've found that prouncing
- |> some idea to be unworthy _ex cathedra_ gathers applause only among
- |> the NIH (Not-Invented-Here) crowd. The rest of the world sees only
- |> their arbitrary pronouncement, and doesn't give much credit to the
- |> rejecter(s).
- |>
- |> But if all these experts are unwilling to even _try_... hmmmm.
-
- I think you are discounting time value here. The cryptologists who
- hang out here are probably not terribly interested in carrying out even
- a known plaintext attack on something encrypted with an unknown
- algorithm -- they just don't have the time to waste. They would much
- rather look at and analyze the algorithm in order to assess its
- characteristics (security, speed, patent infringement, etc.).
-
- To assert a NIH attitude is absurd, given that there is no _here_
- here. The problem is that neophytes show up with "unbreakable" code
- challenges in sci.crypt on a regular basis (about every other month, or
- so). Nobody has the time to reverse engineer an algorithm starting
- from square one -- it is a long, tedious process, the first time
- 'round, unless the code is ridiculously trivial.
-
- If your friend is truly interested in having experts assess the
- security of this algorithm, s/he must submit the _algorithm_ to the
- experts -- not the _output_ of the algorithm.
- --
-
- ...Russ Schnapp
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