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- From: unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh)
- Newsgroups: sci.crypt,comp.org.eff.talk,alt.privacy,talk.politics.guns
- Subject: Re: Registering "Assault Keys"
- Date: 10 Nov 1992 20:22:49 GMT
- Organization: The University of British Columbia
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- References: <1992Oct30.033830.24244@netcom.com> <Bx26oC.LEK@nocusuhs.nnmc.navy.mil> <1992Nov8.030704.3898@netcom.com> <1794@rwing.UUCP> <1992Nov10.044148.22135@netcom.com> <1992Nov10.121736.21575@watson.ibm.com>
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- mjp@austin.ibm.com (Michael Phelps) writes:
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-
- >In article <1992Nov10.044148.22135@netcom.com>, gurgle@netcom.com (Pete Gontier) writes:
- >|> pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) writes:
- >[lots deleted]
- >|>
- >|> I understand that a ban on handguns would merely be a band-aid. That
- >|> doesn't change my preference.
-
- > I'm curious. Why not?
-
- Clearly you are a believer in the maxim that if a solution is not final
- and complete it is not worth implimenting at all. No sane person
- believes that the registring/ banning / whatever of guns would sole all
- problems. Neither does medicine solve the problem of death. But even
- bandaids help ( or don't yo own any of those since they aren't the
- complete solution)/
-
-
- > If the goal is to make society safer, clearly the problem to be addressed is
- > violent crime, of all sorts. Banning handguns isn't gonna solve it - but
- > you already know that!
-
- Yes and controlling peoples ability to commit violent acts is part of
- the solution- not all of it, part of it.
- Many of the guns used in crimes are stolen- stolen from all those law
- abiding citizens who never use them. And if there are more available to
- steal they are easier to steal.
-
-
- > If you simply don't like handguns, fine. Don't own one.
-
- I don't know about the original poster but I don't like them in your, or
- other peoples hands. Like you I feel that I am infinitely responsible
- and would never never misuse any gun I owned Unfortunately I do not
- have the same confidence in you, or others , and am willing to give up
- my utterly responsile freedom in order to help protect me from other's
- irresponsibility.
-
- > If you feel that they are just too dangerous for people to own, consider the
- > numbers - there are about 200 million handguns in the US, and about 12000
- > firearms homicides per year, and 1400 accidental firarms deaths. That makes
- > firearms safer than automobiles.
- >
- Uh, hardly. divide the number of deaths by the number of times they
- are used, not by the number. There are "billions" of molecules of cyanide
- in the universe. That does not make them any the less dangerous when
- used.
-