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- From: jr179629@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Jason Rogers)
- Subject: '89 Sundance
- Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
- Message-ID: <Nov12.072901.99567@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:29:01 GMT
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- Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College
- Keywords: Cold Stumbling
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- This is a problem that started about a year ago. Background info: '89 Sundance
- RS with 2.5 EFI engine, 5-speed, ~65,000 miles.
-
- During the first two minutes of driving after a cold-start, the car seems to
- cut-out, balk, and stumble under moderate acceleration and engine speed. The
- range of engine speed that this phenomenon occurs is 2500-3000 rpm. After about
- two minutes of operation, the problem seems to go away and the car drives fine.
- I mentioned this to a dealer mechanic, who speculated my fuel injector might be
- dirty. I tried a bottle of fuel-injector cleaner with a fresh tank of gasoline.
- No luck.
- Given the two-minute "window," I wonder if the problem is related to
- open-loop operation. Another idea lies in a faulty EGR valve or EGR control
- component (such as a cold-coolant override). The EGR system is designed to
- engage at engine speeds above 2500 rpm and at part-throttle.
- I tried flooring the accelerator (which would disengage EGR)
- once when the car started bucking, and it accelerated as expected - smooth and
- somewhat eager.
- I had the car tuned at a local "tune shop" last year. Part of the
- procedure was to check the operation of the emissions components. To check
- an EGR valve, they directed a small amount of propane to the top of the diaphragm,
- and monitored the tailpipe emissions. Given the design of the EGR valve, the
- emissions showed a "rich" reading. Their claim was that these emissions
- numbers increased "...more than they should for an EGR valve in proper operating
- condition." I pointed out the invalidity of their test because the EGR valve
- is designed to "leak," as stated by a Chrysler engineer friend.
- Whatever the case may be, the problem still exists. Throughout the warm
- weather months, the idiosynchracy never occurred.
-
- I would appreciate further input on what the problem may be; I'm becoming rather
- annoyed with it. Please send your suggestions directly to my E-mail address.
- Thanks!
-
- Jason
-