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- From: gooley@netcom.com (Mark. Gooley)
- Subject: Re: New Gasoline Ripoff
- Message-ID: <1992Nov6.035608.14344@netcom.com>
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- References: <1992Nov3.121946.1072@newstand.syr.edu> <1992Nov5.135758.20536@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> <1992Nov5.233028.23565@cbnewse.cb.att.com>
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- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:56:08 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov5.233028.23565@cbnewse.cb.att.com> pmwempe@cbnewse.cb.att.com (paul.michael.wempe) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov5.135758.20536@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, sdb@redbeard.physics.fsu.edu (Scott D. Berry) writes:
- >>
- >> You are wrong -- alcohol is more expensive than the gas.
- >> Remember the actual cost of the gasoline is NOT the ~$1.20
- >> you pay for it at the station. My memory tells me that the
- >> actual cost (out of the refinery) is closer to $.60-$.80/gal.
- >> (or even less, since there are typically $.30 in taxes).
- >
- >Here in Illinois some stations sell both the gas+ethanol and
- >the 100% gass side by side, and the ethanol blend is usually
- >cheaper (and has an equivalent, but usually higher octane rating)
- >
- >State variation in tax breaks?
-
- Ethanol is very heavily subsidized.
-
- Let me tell you all a little story. Once upon a time there was a company
- called Archer Daniels Midland with a chairman of the board named Dwayne
- Andreas. The company wanted to expand its corn wet-milling operations
- in Decatur, Illinois (my hometown) but Mr. Andreas wanted to be sure that
- the results of wet-milling would have a steady market.
-
- Fortunately for ADM, Robert Dole of Kansas and various other prominent
- lawmakers were (and presumably still are) Mr. Andreas' good friends.
- Two kinds of legislation guaranteed that ADM's wet-milling operation
- would be profitable: first, tariffs on imported sugar that not only
- protect sugar producers in the U. S. from cheap imported sugar, but
- drive the price of sugar so high that soft-drink manufacturers use
- high-fructose corn syrup (derived from wet-milled corn) in quantity,
- and, second, for those times in the winter when there's less demand
- for soft drinks and hence for high-fructose corn syrup, huge subsidies
- for power ethanol made from grain (such as wet-milled corn). Hence
- ADM's wet-milling plant can keep running at high capacity all year long.
-
- It's just a story. Perhaps someone here knows the exact truth?
-
- There may also be a state tax break for fuel that's 10% ethanol.
-
- I've seen estimates that claim that power ethanol costs $1.40 to $1.60
- a gallon to manufacture.
-
- Mark. (former Illinoisian)
- gooley@netcom.com
-