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- From: elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg)
- Subject: Theme ~ Moral
- Message-ID: <1992Nov10.065900.28476@nwnexus.WA.COM>
- Originator: elf@halcyon.com
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- Reply-To: elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg)
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- References: <92314.140929KVJLC@ASUACAD.BITNET>
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:59:00 GMT
- Lines: 127
-
- In article <92314.140929KVJLC@ASUACAD.BITNET>
- KVJLC@ASUACAD.BITNET (Jon L. Campbell) writes:
-
- >A story with a theme is one that
- >tries to leave an underlining message ~ subliminal message for the reader
- >to grasp and apply (e.g. love conquers all, etc.). Morality in fiction is
- >not really any different. Take the morality of 'love conquers all' and
- >apply it a story. What you end up with is a theme with which the story
- >is based.
-
- I would argue against the concept "love conquers all" as necessarily
- a 'moral,' but it's certainly a theme. There is not one story, not one
- work of fiction much admired these days, that does not have a powerful
- underlying theme to it.
-
- "Moby Dick" has the theme "Obsession is a powerful destroyer of
- men." "Star Wars" was simplistic, "Good shall conquer over evil."
- Every cheap romance novel has the theme "Love shall win in the end."
- Even songs like "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" have themes, such
- as "Beware nature's fury." Both Star Trek series had a major theme for
- every episode, usually simplistic, and the series itself had an
- encompassing theme, illustrated explicitly on page 4 of the Star Trek:
- The Next Generation Scriptwriter's Guide:
-
- "The new Star Trek will continue the tradition of vivid
- imagination, intelligence, and sense of fun, while still
- exploring the themes of what we humans presently are, where we
- are going, and what our existence is really about."
-
- >Morality is an artistic work that teaches a moral lesson according
- >to Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary. If this is true then what is
- >the difference between theme and morality, nothing. Plain and simple when
- >someone attempts to subvert a story with their own ideas of morality, then
- >they are playing god with the mind of the reader. Because morality in the
- >story is so subtle, it is subliminal and therefore, dangerous. A means of
- >invoking thoughts and prejudices, love and hate, right and wrong, but who
- >among any writer has that responsibility.
-
- Ah, but the writer has every right to impose those thoughts upom his
- audience. It's the _audience_ that has the responsibility of deciding
- what it does with the writer's imposed beliefs.
-
- People reading my stuff because it's science fiction run the risk of
- liking my characters, only to find out later that he or she might be
- gay. More than once people have told me that my stories have made them
- re-assess their feelings towards gays-- as a writer, _I'm doing my
- job_. I'm reaching people. People who don't want that message can put
- down my stories and never read them again.
-
- People reading my stories run the risk of running into my
- philosophies; seeing as they're the ones I'm most comfortable with,
- they're the ones my characters will be most familiar with, and the
- easiest for me to illustrate by example and exposition.
-
- I'm not going to shirk my feelings for the sake of a "good" story.
- "With great power comes great responsibility," "The highest human value
- is personal responsibility," "Everything in human experience is
- negotiable," "Free will is good," "Technology is inherently the tool of
- people, neither good nor evil in its own right," and so forth... these
- are _my_ beliefs, and no 'protagonist' of mine is going to argue
- against them. Not only would I not respect myself in the morning, but
- I doubt I could convincingly write such a story.
-
- > A story is just that. Nothing more than one persons idea of reality or
- >un-reality (i.e. lack of reality). High school english or college writing,
- >it doesn't matter, but wherever theme is taught it is an abuse of mankinds
- >free choice. The freedom to choose what is moral or not, the freedom to
- >decide for themselves what is morality and what is immoral. To write a
- >moralistic theme into a story is equlivent to artistic incest. Think
- >about it.
-
- Ah, but every story, from the Myths of Methuselah through Homer,
- Petronius, Dante, Chaucer, Shakespeare, Bronte, Byron, Wilde,
- Hemingway, through to Stephen King, Danielle Steele, Gabriel
- Garcia-Marquez and Daniel Least Heat-Moon... their stories have themes!
-
- And I _have_ to ask, where is the freedom of choice best exercised?
- By my self-censoring my ideas because others might find them
- "subversive?" Or by putting them out on the public market and letting
- other people exercise their freedom of choice to read or not read, to
- accept or reject, the ideas put before them?
-
- In article <1992Nov5.213942.21335@galileo.physics.arizona.edu>
- lnh@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (sometimes a Wombat) writes:
-
- |In general, forget everything you were taught in high
- |school English class -- remember "is it man verses man or man verses
- |nature"?
-
- I disagree with this, as well as Larry's insistence that "A story
- theme that can be summed into one sentence will never be a novel." I
- still write stories... short, medium, novel, and even multi-book, that
- can easily be summed up into one sentence.
-
- Take a look at any episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation (a
- local favorite, I think, because the writing is as beautifully
- functional as it is transparent). What does a writer do? He looks at
- the characters in the series and often asks himself a simple question:
- "How can I introduce conflict into this character's life? How will
- he/she resolve it? What are the repercussions of those actions?"
-
- Much of writing comes down to just that: A protagonist, a conflict,
- and a resolution. That resolution can be positive (Luke blows up the
- Death Star) or negative (Hamlet dies). But the _theme_ of a story is
- illustrated by how a character reaches through the conflict to the
- resolution. _How_ that character applies _his_ beliefs (imposed by the
- writer) on the conflict lead to the resolution. Luke's willful
- determination, bolstered by his belief in (THEME!) "Good conquers all,"
- leads to the end of Star Wars, where his belief is held in triumph.
- Hamlet's constant failure to resolve his conflict within himself
- (THEME!) leads to the resolution of conflict by death and destruction.
- Hamlet's internal themes do not stand up to the basic theme surrounding
- the whole play, "Indecision sucks."
-
- Whether you like it or not, if your character has a fight with his
- girlfriend and resolves that conflict, you have imparted to your reader
- some belief about how boys and girls should get along. If he fails to
- resolve the fight, you tell your reader how why you think boys and
- girls often fail to get along. You have transmitted a meme, and
- developed a theme.
-
- Elf !!!
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