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- From: peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser)
- Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
- Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD? (long)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov6.115901.6533@global.hacktic.nl>
- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:59:01 GMT
- References: <Bwsy4E.DJL@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> <1992Oct29.230953.1633@ultb.isc.rit.edu> <Bx39s8.FF6@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> <Bx6xF6.DHL@shakti.ncst.ernet.in>
- Organization: Global Village 1
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- shobhana@shakti.ncst.ernet.in (Shobhana) writes:
-
- >Because after using the system for more than 10 days you will get
- >positively irritated with these messages. In a couple of weeks after
- >I started using DOS, I was quite annoyed with having to answer stupid
- >questions like "Are you sure?" when I did "del *.*"---and I had never
- >used unix before then.
-
- That's because you can't turn them off, which is bad. But anyway, these
- messages *can* be usefull for certain people.
-
- >alias help man
- >Trivial for Unix. In any case, man is a user program and *not* an
- >OS feature.
-
- It is a system feature. And if I buy a UNIX tape in a store, then how am I
- going to install that alias command? Remember, we're talking about users here.
-
- >>Real operating systems, from a user's point of view, come with a gui.
- >Ugh---gimme an emacs any day ;-)
- >Anyway, you have Motif, OpenLook etc. Pick your choice.
-
- That's a problem too, there is no standard. It would be nice to have a standard
- GUI.
-
- >I am getting bored of this! Are you completely ignorant of the immense
- >number of (public domain) editors extant on the net?
-
- Remember, the two words 'the net' has no meaning for Joe and Jane User.
-
- >>Real operating systems will work in 8MB of Ram.
- >Linux runs in 2MB.
- Not with X and a GUI.
-
- >SunOS runs in 2MB (I think! Anyone know the exact #s? Anyway, 8MB is
- >*comfortable*)
- >Most other Unixes should also be comfortable with 8M.
-
- With X and a GUI?
-
- >>Real operating systems can be bought in stores.
- >Or ftp'ed ;-)
-
- You bet! <grin>
-
- >All in all your gripe against Unix seems to be based on assumptions
- >about unix which have no basis in reality. I also find this continual
- >moaning about ``Unix is so hard to use'' sick. I mean, if you can take
- >the time to learn how to, say, drive a car you can take the time to
- >learn Unix. And as in driving (and for that matter everything else),
- >practice makes perfect.
-
- Great, but the point was that UNIX is not going to have a large market share
- if it doesn't meet the needs of normal users. At this moment it just can't,
- except maybe NeXT (but I can't judge, never seen such a beast) and possibly
- a few others. But either they are proprietary and/or too expensive to be
- a real competition for NT and/or OS/2 v2.0.
-
- >I heard this long ago, but I've forgotten who wrote this: "I learnt
- >the Macintosh OS in one day and spent the rest of the days paying
- >for that ease of use."
-
- Others love it. I don't, but I know others who would really like the ease of
- use of the Mac on their DOS box.
-
-