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- From: awb@ed.ac.uk (Alan W Black)
- Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
- Subject: CDROM for 386bsd (Re: ftp software inc, their address is...)
- Message-ID: <AWB.92Nov12101926@otter.uk.ac.ed.aisb>
- Date: 12 Nov 92 10:19:26 GMT
- References: <2X13TB1w165w@student.business.uwo.ca>
- Sender: news@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Network News Administrator)
- Organization: Dept of AI, Edinburgh University, UK
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- In-Reply-To: mark@student.business.uwo.ca's message of 11 Nov 92 15:59:36 GMT
-
- In article <2X13TB1w165w@student.business.uwo.ca> mark@student.business.uwo.ca (Mark Bramwell CS STAFF) writes:
- > For those of you who wanted to know where I got the CD-rom with
- > 386bsd on it,
- > here is the address of the company....
- >
- > ftp software, inc.
- > 2 High street, North Andover, MA
- > 01845-2620
- >
- > Main phone: 508-685-4000
- > fax: 508-794-4488
- > sales: 508-685-3300
-
- > the cd-rom was handed out at the NetWorld Conference in Dallas, Texas.
-
- I believe that this cd-rom is actually the one sold by Infomagic. It
- contains the 386bsd (0.1) distribution (packed srcs and bin) as well
- as most of the GNU stuff, X11R5 (to fix8), BSD Net2, the RFCs, a fair
- amount of MSDOS freeware and some mac stuff (it's dated August 92---it
- has GNU stuff from early Auguest). Infomagic's address is
-
- Infomagic
- PO Box 338
- Pennington
- New Jersey 08534-0338
- USA
- tel: 609-683-5501
-
- It costs 75$ plus shipping (10$ overseas)---is it cheaper from FTP ?.
- I phoned in an order to Infomagic and received it 4 days later (which
- isn't bad considering how far I am away from New Jersey).
-
- Although this CD does mean I don't need to keep so many floppy disks
- around I'd still like to see a cdrom with 386bsd *unpacked* on it, so
- I don't need to keep the srcs on-line (or as I do now unpack on
- demand).
-
- My ideal CD would contain unpacked versions (and maybe packed as well)
- of
- 386bsd (both binaries and sources)
- GNU stuff
- TeX
- X11R5 and maybe some contrib stuff
- XFree86 bins (and patched X11R5 server ??)
-
- Of course with Linux binaries and sources on the CD the potential
- customers would increase.
-
- The main problem I see with such a CDROM is that because of the
- ISO9660 format, filename length (and format) is restricted. Short
- names are not really acceptable as a change in name would invalidate
- most of the srcs (changing Makefiles isn't practical etc). You can
- ignore the filename limits (as Sun does on their demo cdrom) and still
- have things working but it wouldn't then work under DOS, which isn't
- much of a problem as long as the boot images were accessible under
- MSDOS.
-
- Also because the 386bsd sources are set up to put compiled files
- in obj/ which is a symbolic link, a read only file system with the
- sources on is quite practical. However as ISO9660 doesn't support
- symbolic links some extension would need to be used.
-
- I suppose the whole question comes down to whether there are enough
- people out there that would be willing to buy a CDROM set up for
- (almost exclusive) use on 386bsd (and Linux). I suppose
- eventually this will be the case but I'll just have to wait for
- the time being.
-
- Alan
-
- Alan W Black 2 Buccleuch Place, Edinburgh, UK
- Centre for Cognitive Science tel: (+44) -31 650 4627
- University of Edinburgh email: awb@ed.ac.uk
-