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- From: gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello)
- Subject: Re: Telephone Message DELIVERY / Answer Center
- Message-ID: <1992Nov12.223604.20192@leland.Stanford.EDU>
- Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
- Organization: DSO, Stanford University
- References: <SCOTT.92Nov12000933@nic.gac.edu>
- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 22:36:04 GMT
- Lines: 54
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- In article <SCOTT.92Nov12000933@nic.gac.edu> writes:
- > This isn't to say that such legislation is highly prevalent. All
- > I know is that this is how things work in Minnesota. Even then,
- > there _may_ be loopholes for certain situations. For instance, in
- > your situation you could have people give you written permission
- > to have the computer call them and leave messages, which means that
- > you've removed the major complaint about such systems (the harrassment
- > sort of concerns). But, the lucrative bucks would be in selling
- > such systems to telemarketers, who'd be paying thousands of dollars
- > for them whereas I suspect your underfunded group will not be
- > willing to pay. And the package _is_ almost exactly the same
- > (precisely, anything that does what you want done could also be
- > used for automated telemarketing stuff).
-
- Maybe this isn't the right place to discuss this. If so, please feel free
- to tell me the correct place to move this discussion.
-
- You get to the heart of the issues Scott. (1) This technology should not
- be used to deliver UNSOLICITED messages (although we allow this in the US
- Mail which I don't like either). (2) Developers want to make money for
- their efforts. (3) Once such a system is developed, it will be equally
- useful to commercial and noncommercial concerns.
-
- Certainly this technology has a beneficial use in the private non-profit
- sector where developer profits probably would be slimmer. But think of the
- social benefits (eg. inexpensive grassroots democracy).
-
- Written permission? That sounds like a lot of beauracracy. Why not allow
- people to give consent over the phone-in message line? They could
- subscribe by leaving their phone number (and optionally their name and
- address). This subscription phone message could then be stored in an
- archive. In the rare instance that legal problems arose (eg. someone was
- impersonated) wouldn't voice pattern analysis be possible? Of course
- unsubscribing may be the problem. An unscrupulous organization could claim
- they never received the unscribe message. Perhaps a confirming number
- could be returned to the caller? If the preceeding is a good idea, I'll
- add it to my design specs list (which I notice Darcy BROCKBANK has
- responded to as a modifier to his current development).
-
- Anyway wouldn't this subscription system also work for commercial
- organizations? Some people may not mind receiving messages from certain
- commercial organizations and thus be willing to subscribe to their
- announcements.
-
- I hate to see this obvious NextStep application buried by overly severe
- privacy concerns. I'm the most fanatical privacy person you're likely to
- meet, but I'd rather accept reasonable protections than prevent the
- development of new potentially useful technology.
-
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- Greg Colello
- Carnegie Institution, Department of Plant Biology
- Stanford University
- gcolello@biosphere.stanford.edu
-