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- From: stan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Stan Twiefel)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
- Subject: Re: Theory on IIsi upgrade failure
- Keywords: IIsi, 25mhz, upgrade
- Message-ID: <83222@ut-emx.uucp>
- Date: 8 Nov 92 19:19:14 GMT
- References: <1992Nov6.060708.5264@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
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- Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
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- In article <1992Nov6.060708.5264@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> wrast@nyx.cs.du.edu (Winston MacKenzie Rast) writes:
- >I've heard a few people mention their failures in upgrading their IIsi to
- >25Mhz. Now, I haven't done this upgrade myself, but I have been following the
- >discussion ever since the thread began. I have an opinion on why some IIsi's
- >might be failing. Here goes:
- >
- >Alright, it's pretty well understood that the IIsi motherboard is quite similar
- >to that of the IIci. If this is true, it helps to know what the differences
- >are. So what is different? Well, the first thing that popped into my mind was
- >that the SIMMs in the IIci are 80ns chips while the SIMMs in the IIsi are 100ns.
- >So, to me it would seem that if your IIsi did NOT have 80ns or faster simms
- >installed in it, the upgrade would not work.
- >
- >--Winston Rast
- >wrast@nyx.cs.du.edu
-
-
- I don't have a IIsi (actually, i'm waiting semi-patiently for my IIvx to
- come in that I ordered on Oct 22 :((( ), but I've been reading most of this
- thread just to see how many people manage to fry their motherboard by
- soldering on it..(:-).
-
- Anyway, does anyone know how fast the 1 meg of soldered on RAM on the mother-
- board is? If that's 100ns, and doing this upgrade would require 80ns memory,
- they you're all basically screwed.
-
- Also, on one of the IIvx threads, they're discussing how the IIvx only
- requires 100ns memory. Someone commented that they would just simply put
- faster memory in their IIvx, and it would run faster, but that was shot
- down real quickly because RAM access speed is not deteremined by how fast
- your RAM is. If you put 80ns RAM in a computer only requiring 100ns RAM,
- the computer is still only designed for 100ns, so you're not going to gain
- anything. NOW... my next question is: what determines how fast the memory
- needs to be? Is it this oscillator you guys are bumping up -> 50Mhz? IF
- so, then it would stand to reason that you might need faster RAM. If not,
- then speeding up your coomputer will only make the '030 wait faster for
- the RAM. But it will still take the same amount of time to do a memory access.
-
- This make any sense?
-
-
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