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- From: baffoni@phakt.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
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- Subject: Re: Falcon BUS..
- Date: 6 Nov 1992 14:29:36 -0800
- Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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- In article <1992Nov5.202240.26716@beaver.cs.washington.edu> bgilbert@cs.washington.edu (Ben Gilbert) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov5.114927.14711@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> leo@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Leo Hendry) writes:
- >>I asked questions similar to these a month or two ago, but nobody answered.
- >>Perhaps somebody knows the answers now.
-
- >>1) What is the speed of the Falcon's memory (Somebody said it had 0 wait
- >>states which seems to imply 16MHz, but they may have been wrong)
-
- >I'm not sure, but doesn't it have to be 16 MHz if it is on the same bus?
-
- Not really. How do you think they get memory to work for 25MHz+
- machines? Its not because they use 20ns memory (which is just cache ram)
- but rather because their memory controllers insert "wait-states" to handle
- slower memory.
-
- >I should know this because I had a computer architecture class last
- >quarter, but they didn't go into specific implementations.
-
- Bum class. You'd think they'd go into basic memory handling....
-
- >>2) How does the DSP access the main memory (Somebody said it is not connected
- >>to the data bus, in which case I suppose it must be some kind of serial link)
-
- >Don't know on this one, but I think you're right in that it's not
- >connected to the data bus. I guess the link must be sufficient if the
- >Falcon can grab true-color off the hard disk at 24 frames per second and
- >display it in real time. :-) Although maybe they didn't use the DSP for
- >that...
-
- The Falcon's DSP is integrated with the SDMA hardware. Just from the
- name, I'd hazzard the guess that the SDMA chips DMA information directly from
- memory (or wherever) and place it on the private DSP bus (or more likely into
- the DSP's 96k memory). Since it is DMA, it is not likely to be a serial link
- (EEEWwwwww!) but a full blown 32-bit data path. The only serial data I know
- about is the DSP connector is a high-speed serial connection (from what I hear,
- its around 1MB/s!).
- [stuff deleted]
-
- >>Thanks,
- >>Leo
- >
- >Cheers,
- >--
- >Ben Gilbert e-mail : bgilbert@cs.washington.edu
- >Department of Computer Science
- >University of Washington
-
- -Mike
-