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- From: thompson@PAN.SSEC.HONEYWELL.COM (jt -- John Thompson)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
- Subject: re: Need Some Advice..
- Message-ID: <199211112115.AA12089@pan.ssec.honeywell.com>
- Date: 11 Nov 92 21:15:25 GMT
- Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
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- > Not to start a religious war or anything but, as a user of both windowing
- > systems, I'm interested in knowing what people see in Domain pads, editor,
- > etc. Sure the ability to search back through the pads was nice, but the
- > functionality exists with Xterms - just not as gracefully.
-
- > Other than that though there is little I miss. I found the window manager
- > really painful for reasons too numerous to mention, but most had to do
- > with how little I was able to customize it. There seemed to be too few
- > ways to do neat things that X, MWM, et al can do using resources, xset, etc.
-
- > Maybe I just didn't pick up the DM tricks along the way; if so I blame it
- > partly on the lack of documentation compared to O'Reilly and all the other
- > authors at various levels on X.
-
- > So what sorts of thing could DM do that X can't?
-
- Whew! Well, I'll try not to start the Jihad, but inflamatory remarks against
- something as sacred as the DM tend to start wars. :-)
-
- OK -- what do I like in PADs:
- 1) very easy search/copy facilities in the transcript pad. It's just a read-
- only file, after all, and you have all the search functions there.
- 2) almost infinite scrollback. Yes, you can do this in X, but you have to say
- BEFOREHAND how much you want saved, and you pay for it up front. All pads
- have 262000+lines, and you only pay for what you use. (We have blown past
- the limit, and the DM isn't too clean in handling that error) :-(
- 3) infinite undo in the input pad. Admittedly, you could blow that away with
- too large a paste into the input area (but at sr10, it told you!)
- 4) cooked input. The ability to HOLD the input, and put in hundreds of lines
- of input text, then edit it, delete out some cruft that wasn't wanted, and
- then release the HOLD action.
-
- What do I like in the EDITOR:
- 1) It's always there.
- 2) Rectangular cut&paste
- 3) Infinite undo
- 4) Non wraparound lines
-
- What else do I like in the DM:
- 1) Key definitions. Yes, you can do this in X, but it's not intuitive for me,
- at any rate.
- 2) Easy KEYBOARD-driven interface. I don't HAVE to use the mouse if I don't
- want to.
- 3) The inherited environment/working-dir of new pads from the last one I was in.
- 4) The "slop" allowed in most window move/grow ops. I can grab anywhere in
- the window that's "close" to the corner, and it figures out which corner I
- probably meant to stretch.
- 5) The wildcard handler. This is a set of calls available to any (Apollo)
- program, not just the shell and editor. (Bad news -- it wasn't released to
- you&me).
-
- -- jt --
- John Thompson
- Senior Engineer / Sys-Admin
- Honeywell, SSEC
- Plymouth, MN 55441
- thompson@pan.ssec.honeywell.com
-
- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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