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- From: jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: PIRACY
- Message-ID: <BxMy2p.3LJ@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>
- Date: 13 Nov 92 03:37:37 GMT
- References: <BxM58K.Fu4@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
- Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA
- Lines: 82
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- saj31052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scotty A Johnson) writes:
-
- >For one, most people steal copywritten material, be it music,
- >software, text, etc. Therefore, most anti-pirate beings are
- >hypocritical.
-
- Ad hominem will get you nowhere. There's a valid philosophical
- point that goes like this; "So I'm a hypocrite." It means that
- the original statement can be valid regardless of its source.
-
- >Also, the pirate people do not, in general, respect any system
- >based upon capitalism, and will take it upon themselves to
- >determine that they either superior to the non-pirate people in
-
-
- Homicide is murder whether it's in self-defense or not. A crime
- is still a crime whether there are good reasons for it or not.
-
- >For myself, I see most of the champions of the pirating and
- >non-pirating as self righteous pigs. What is legal does not
- >have anything to do with what is moral, and indeed is often
- >opposed to what is moral. Society dictates what is moral as
-
- >it establishes certain norms. In the music industry, it is
- >quickly becoming the case that cd's are outselling other media
- >becuase they are not totally reproducable. This coupled with
- >the fact tham most everyone has an illegal copy of copy written
- >music indicates that it is moral to steal music, so long as
- >you are not *phyically* depriving anyone of their goods.
-
- >The same is becoming true in software. I don't know the statistics,
- >but in my little sampling, 95% (19/20) "own" pirated software
- >material. Is it wrong? Perhaps to your unique values it is,
- >but do not spout off about what is moral, when there is no
- >obligation under my state or any other that I must worship your
- >god, or share in your beliefs.
-
- Just because most people in the 15th century thought the world was
- flat didn't mean they were right.
-
- >I don't *need* software, yet I have have pirated software in my
- >collection. I even use it. Is it worth buying? Of course! I
- >use it, so it is worth buying. Can I afford to buy it right now?
- >Sadly no. Will I buy it when I have more funds? I often wonder
- >what the answer to this question is. I wonder if, no matter, *what*
- >my disposable income is, I will ever think that I can *afford*
- >such things. I suppose only time will tell.
-
- >In the mean time, I hurt nobody, nor do I deprive anyone of
- >their possessions, nor do I act against any apparant societal
- >morality.
-
- Buzz. Wrong answer. Even by posting this, asserting that piracy is
- "okay," you are affecting others' decisions about purchasing software
- licenses for the illegal copies they may already be using. You have
- made the claim that piracy is fine, and that those who pirate software
- are just as much in the right as those who don't, because it's a moral
- decision that might as well fall under freedom of religion. But it's
- not, and the reason is not a legal one or a moral one. Even from the
- standpoint of the completely egocentric pirate, it's obvious that pirating
- is the wrong decision, because supporting the use of nonlicensed software
- deprives the source (the software publisher and the programmer(s)) of their
- income, which means that they must raise wholesale charges to compensate for
- lost monies, which means that more software becomes less affordable, and
- eventually it becomes profitless for them to produce software for the
- platform and they leave it, creating another void in the already wanting
- software market for the Amiga, which means one fewer source of software to
- freeload.
-
- So, among other people, you as a pirate hurt yourself.
-
- >I am your normal, average, every day pirate.
-
- >Scotty AJ
-
- >------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- >Scotty A. Johnson "The beast with the four foot tail." Iguana@uiuc.edu
- >------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Wulf |"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do!"
- jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu | --Karel
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