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- From: tdietz@tcedge.mi.org (Tom Dietz)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
- Subject: Re: CNET Info
- Message-ID: <tdietz.05mn@tcedge.mi.org>
- Date: 6 Nov 92 18:15:31 GMT
- Organization: EXCELSIOR! Tech Support BBS (313) 77-AMIGA
- Lines: 71
- X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! v0.968
-
- In an article, chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch) writes:
-
- >No matter how good Excelsior may be, i certainly don't like the attitude
- >it's authors have *PUBLICLY* taken. A mud slinging campaign that puts bush
- >to shame.
-
- Attitude of the authors? Whens the last time you got a hold of a BBS
- programmer, voice? Not too soon I may add. You buy EXCELSIOR! you can call
- us on the 800-line (thats TOLL-Free) if you run into a problem. If you ask
- any EXCELSIOR! sysop, I even urge them to. I want to give as much support as
- possible for the BBS program as you have paid for it. I think the user is
- entitled to that. Not just leaving some post on a BBS and hoping someone will
- reply.
-
- Well, as you obviously havent really been understanding what you have been
- reading. Mudslinging? I am sick and tired of being woken up in the middle
- of the night only to find its Ken Pletzer and his friends screaming and
- swearing at me on the 800 line, and then people posting: "It couldnt be Ken"
- Then calling me(us) the instigator(s) or mudslingers.
-
- Well send me an SASE and I will return you the AT&T Detailed call log and
- the police reports. Dont forget I have to pay for each call Ken makes. Thats
- why the legal action was taken. He is so childish. I cant believe anyone can
- stand behind him. I am trying to bring a product to market and have to deal
- with his antics. He is a professional?
-
- >shame, posting of priveledged source code (of which Ron Kushner should
- >watch out, having had access to Cnet source can make him liable for
- >copyright infringement and look and feel suits, since copyright includes
- >derived
-
- Impossible. Why do you choose to accuse someone of something like that?
- Its totally ignorant.
-
- 1. Ron has no priviledged source code.
- 2. There is no "look and feel" as it may be rumored.
- 3. Ken has used so many others ideas both public and private that it
- really would do no good. Keep in mind, I am not condoning this, just
- placing it on the level of you argument (err acusations).
-
- Oh, its been said before so I have no idea why you show hypocrisy.
- Take a look at the the CNAux-Handler, its copywritten by someone else. And I
- know everyone is sick and tired of hearing that, some choose to ignore it,
- fine. But dont accuse us of something your BBS software is clearly in
- violation of. We take the time to write our own code.
-
- >Joe Vasher, on the other hand, claims that the Visual Editor (which has
- >been in Cnet since 1.0) was stolen out of excelsior? I don't understand that
- >one..
-
- Again, you should read exactly what is posted. Joe Vasher said he wrote the
- noises for CNet Amiga and received no credit. That is between Joe and Ken.
- However, Joe wrote a visual editor door for EXCELSIOR! which is distributed
- with the BBS package. Ken took the "look and feel" and ideas and put it in
- CNet, fine, but its still hypocrisy for the unjust accusations.
-
- I hate having to defend the BBS's image each time someone claims "rip-off".
- If you have seen our BBSDEMO program, you can clearly see that CNet has taken
- many many ideas, including his new point and click config, which the ideas for
- it were taken from EXCELSIOR!, we have had one since day one. I have no
- complaints with that. Ideas are ideas. I have said this many times before.
- But the Cnet die-hards refuse to acknowledge it. All I am asking is next time,
- before you go screaming "rip-off" take a look at things first.
-
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