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Linux-Activists Digest #493, Volume #3            Fri, 6 Nov 92 08:15:12 EST

Contents:
  compiling ghostscript/view (Michael Will)
  Can't run shell! (SLS) I'm loosing my hair! (Hallvard Paulsen)
  Re: SLS-Permission-Drama (elm/mail) (Michael Will)
  How to tell linux about bad blocks? (Hallvard Paulsen)
  Re: GNUCC 2.3.1 Available (H.J. Lu)
  Re: MAXTOR (Jim Nelson)
  Re: 'cfmakeraw' library call? (H.J. Lu)
  Re: Splitting comp.os.linux (Patrick Taylor)
  SLS update (Peter MacDonald)
  CFV Update: comp.os.linux split - NO acknowledgements (Ian Jackson)
  linux crashes (Jarkko Aitti)
  SLIP support for Linux? (Drew William Hess)
  nice success story (Jonathan Magid)
  Re: Anyone compile gwm-1.7 with Linux ? (Leif Kornstaedt)
  Expert advice needed (Kurt M. Alonso)
  Re: need help with permissions (Lennart Benschop)
  Problems with SLS root disk. HELP! (Jerry van Waardenberg)
  "mkswap" program wanted (Stefan Tex)

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Will)
Subject: compiling ghostscript/view
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:31:08 GMT

I tried to compile ghostscript 2.5.2, and got:
echo -lsocket -lm >>_temp_
/bin/sh <_temp_
ld: No such file or directory for libsocket.a
make: *** [gs] Error 1
#
Why this?

Someone told me it should "make" without trouble on linux.

Ghostview failed as well:
# make
gcc -fwritable-strings -fomit-frame-pointer  -O2 -m386 -DNO_ASM   -I/usr/X386/include  -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE      -Dlinux  -DFUNCPROTO=11 -DNARROWPROTO -DNON_BLOCKING_IO  -DSELFILE -DHOME_ON_DEMAND   -c misc.c -o misc.o
misc.c:61: conflicting types for `sys_errlist'
/usr/include/errno.h:8: previous declaration of `sys_errlist'
make: *** [misc.o] Error 1

So what?

Greetings, Michael Will

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From: [e-mail] (Hallvard Paulsen)
Subject: Can't run shell! (SLS) I'm loosing my hair!
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Hallvard Paulsen)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 07:18:03 GMT

        This is driving me crazy!

        I've got the SLS package (including the z?fix.taz files), and
there is now way I can do anything as a user. Well actually the errors I
get is:

        shell-init:permission denied  (when I log in)
        pwd : permission denied       (every time i type a command)

        But when I check it turns out that my commands (like creating files
deleting files and so on) are usually executed. The problem seems to
be shell commands *only*. (that is since PS1="pwd"# I allways get a
permission denied message)

        So: How do I make the shell usable for users?


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Will)
Subject: Re: SLS-Permission-Drama (elm/mail)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:26:23 GMT

[e-mail] (Terje Vernly) writes:
|You'll have to set the sticky-bit on the mail-directory:
|chmod 1777 /usr/spool/mail

Yes, possible, but it still leaves the question, why this should not work:

drwxrwxr-x   2 root     mail          192 Nov  5 01:07 mail

elm and fastmail and newmail and printmail and wnewmail are of group mail,
elm is sgid. why can't it write into the mail-directory then?

Confused, Michael Will

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From: [e-mail] (Hallvard Paulsen)
Subject: How to tell linux about bad blocks?
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Hallvard Paulsen)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 08:18:01 GMT

        On my HD I've got a couple of bad sectors (or blocks or
whatever...) When I run the "find" command it allways stops at this
block an retries a couple of times before finaly giving up. Is there
any way I can tell linux about this bad spot on my hd so that
it doesn't try to read or write it?

        Hallvard


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From: [e-mail] (H.J. Lu)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: GNUCC 2.3.1 Available
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:13:50 GMT

|You can now get GCC 2.3.1 from pub/gnu/gcc-2.3.1.tar.Z
|on prep.ai.mit.edu by anonymous ftp.  Compressed diffs
|from version 2.2.2 in gcc-2.2.2-2.3.1.diff.Z are almost 2 meg.

I won't use gcc 2.3.1. It breaks quite a few things. I have made it
for Linux. But I will wait for at least 2.3.2.

H.J.

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From: [e-mail] (Jim Nelson)
Subject: Re: MAXTOR
Date: 6 Nov 92 05:36:47 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kevin Routh) writes:
|[e-mail] (91066720 j r selleck) writes:
|:  was wondering if Linux gets along with a 213 Mb Maxtor Hd.
|:
|:  Any way I was looking at getting a MAXTOR HD  it is 213 Megs and has
|:  a 15 ms access time..`
|:  Thats about all I know about it, but I was hoping someone who uses
|:  both could tell me what they think..
|:
|I have heard that the Maxtor 213 does not get along with other IDE
|drives.  You cannot mix it with a Seagate or a Conner IDE and have
|them work together as master/slave.  I know two cases where it didn't
|work.  Be careful!  It is tempting with the price of the Maxtor drive.

Say what?  I have one, and have used it with a ST-1127 and another
brand name that I have never heard of, and it worked nicely with both
of them.  Now, I have two generations of the 213 (one of the old 1/2
height and one new slim line version) working.

Not with Linux, however.  I did test it on them, but eventually I put
linux on the ST-1127.  But it did work.

--
Jim, in the Land of the Lost.            |Disclaimer:  These are probably
ObQuote: Do Not Meddle in the Affairs of |   opinions.  I'm probably not
          Wizards, For You are Crunchy,  |   supposed to have any.
          and Good with Ketchup.         | Blessed Be!


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From: [e-mail] (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: 'cfmakeraw' library call?
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:33:07 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Johannes Grosen) writes:
|>
|> I've been wanting to have 'script' on my machine for some time
|> and decided to snarf the sources from the 4.3bsd-reno distribution.
|> There were no problems except for a call to a function 'cfmakeraw'
|> which I have never heard of before. From it's name and where it's
|> called I would assume it puts a terminal in raw mode but I hate
|> to 'ass-u-me' anything. Has anyone heard of this function? Can
|> anyone confirm my assumptions?
|>

It is in 4.2 :-). Please do check if that works or not.


|> Thanks!
|> --
|> Johannes Grosen
|> ISC System Administrator
|> [e-mail]


H.J.
=======
/* Copyright (C) 1992 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This file is part of the GNU C Library.

The GNU C Library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
modify it under the terms of the GNU Library General Public License as
published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the
License, or (at your option) any later version.

The GNU C Library is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU
Library General Public License for more details.

You should have received a copy of the GNU Library General Public
License along with the GNU C Library; see the file COPYING.LIB.  If
not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 675 Mass Ave,
Cambridge, MA 02139, USA.  */

#include <ansidecl.h>
#include <termios.h>

/* Set *T to indicate raw mode.  */
void
DEFUN(cfmakeraw, (t), struct termios *t)
{
  t->c_iflag &= ~(IGNBRK|BRKINT|PARMRK|ISTRIP|INLCR|IGNCR|ICRNL|IXON);
  t->c_oflag &= ~OPOST;
  t->c_lflag &= ~(ECHO|ECHONL|ICANON|ISIG|IEXTEN);
  t->c_cflag &= ~(CSIZE|PARENB);
  t->c_cflag |= CS8;
  t->c_cc[VMIN] = 0;
  /* t->c_cc[VTIME] = ?; */
}

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From: [e-mail] (Patrick Taylor)
Crossposted-To: news.groups
Subject: Re: Splitting comp.os.linux
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:31:59 GMT

In article <mq21H=r?[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David Barr) writes:
|--
|System Administrator, Population Research Institute    [e-mail]
|  "An analogy is like instant coffee: it can wake you up, but it's
|  not the real thing"  -- Peter da Silva

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA...
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "This must be Thursday.  I never could get the hang of Thursdays"
                                                       - Douglas Adams
  - Patrick Taylor                                ! PEROT IN '96 !
    Ericsson Network Systems
    [e-mail]                       "Don't let the .se fool you"
    or [e-mail], [e-mail]

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From: pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald)
Subject: SLS update
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 20:46:26 GMT

Two things: from the HISTORY file.

921105: a4:zfix.taz: Hopefully fixed the permission problems in root.
        b5:ghostscr.taz: Ghostscript compiled with most drivers.


The first fixes the "shell-init" and "permission denied" problem,
assuming it occurs in the "a" series.  I really don't know why
this is happening.  Someone who does a full install let me know
if it still happens.

Ghostscript has no fonts, but the b5 disk was half empty anyways.

Peter.

PS:  In case someone wonders why SLS is so designed to be floppy
bound, I don't back up my system.  If there is a major problem,
I backup my data and reinstall.  This is why I developed SLS: at
first I tried for months to get others interested in it.  But no
go, even with the enticement of being able to distribute it for
a fee.  Finally, I did it myself, and got Softlanding to distribute
it for $3.25/disk.  This is a money-losing proposition, mostly because
you can't advertise since it is to expensive, and there are no
barriers/restrictions on those buying it.  Thus you will never
get a large outfit to send you an order for 30 units.



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From: [e-mail] (Ian Jackson)
Crossposted-To: news.groups,comp.os.mach,comp.os.minix,comp.os.bsd
Subject: CFV Update: comp.os.linux split - NO acknowledgements
Date: 6 Nov 92 02:28:48 GMT

Due to the outgoing mail flood causing problems at my site I regret
that I'm unable to send out any more individual acknowledgements.
Those people who have received them, lucky for you :-).

The rest of you will have to wait for the mass acknowledgement with
the 2nd CFV to see if your vote arrived correctly.

I shall continue to send out error messages for votes that my software
couldn't parse and which therefore weren't counted.

Ian Jackson.
--
Ian Jackson  [e-mail] ..!uknet!cam-orl!iwj  These opinions are my own.
Olivetti Research Ltd, Old Addenbrookes Site, Trumpington St, Cambridge, UK;
Home: 35 Molewood Close, Cambridge, CB4 3SR; [phone].     [phone]

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From: [e-mail] (Jarkko Aitti)
Subject: linux crashes
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:54:07 GMT

Hi, i'm running linux 0.98.3 at my 486dx with no problems (almost),
BUT my friend who has 486sx have lots of problems with it.
(i'm posting this because he has no modem to use)

Machine:
Motherboard is marketed under name 'contaq' and uses AMI bios and is
compatible also with 486DX prosessors, it's a ISA bus, it has 486sx cpu.
There's some chips marked UMC, so maybe it's using UMC chipset (dunno if there
is UMC chipset, i heard these infos over phoneline)
4 Megs memory.

Harddisk is Maxtor LXT213A atv2.05 ( i think it's atid, and i don't know its
revision number)

There's also sounblaster card and oak vga card.

Software:
SLS 0.98.1 release (copy of mine which works), now upgraded to 0.98.3 kernel.
Using ext filesystem and one swappartition.

Problem:
Lots of different hangups at random interval, which does not depend if he is
using it or not. (at least seems like it)

errors:

 Trying to free nonexistant swapspace
===============
ext_find_entry: Bad dir entry
device=770,dir=212,offset=520,reclen=770,name_len=0
===============
General protection:0000
elp:0008:0001 695b
eflag:00010286
fs:0017
base:00000000 limit:c0000000
pid:576,prosess nr 2
8b,50,24,89,15,e8,ab,04,00,c7
(these he gots at least one screenful at a time)
=================

Sometimes machine resets immediately after erros so it's hard to read them.
Previously he used mcc-0.97.2 release, and had no problems..
(those both were copies of mine, so disks should be allright)

how is he tried to fix it:
first after gotting that swap error, he reformatted swappartion.
(with -c option, allthought there is no erros)

After i heard that there's a maxtor harddisk, i remebered of reading lots about
problems with some revisions of it. (it's in my KILL file:)
So, i borrowed my wd controller and he had st-251 drive, which he first
formatted (lowlevel) and then started to install SLS release to it.

He got those 'general protection errors' while installing it, so it wasn't
maxtor which did those...

He is using dos and windows with no problems at all..

Resetted bios setups to defaults didn't help..

I saw one posting from someone who mentioned also having same kind of problems
with motherboard which had chips reading 'UMC'.

--

  Name: Jarkko J. Aitti     Mail: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Drew William Hess)
Subject: SLIP support for Linux?
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:34:38 GMT

Is there any SLIP support for Linux?

-dwh-
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: nice success story
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:55:27 GMT

Nice linux success story. Tonight I helped my friend Jim Fullton put SLS
on his 386/36 Zenith lap top with 4 megs of memory.  Not only does
it work, we got X11 on it too, running ico in a root, an xterm, an xclock,
and compiling! :)

Btw, I am jealous with how easy it is to get X386 mono working (1 minute of
work) compared to 45 minutes on my ET4000. Doesn't seem fair... :)


Kudos from Jim to all...

ps. Jim said he would start porting WAIS to Linux next week or so...
quote: "IETF people will be sooooo jealous. I have a portable workstation!"
jem.

--
Jonathan Magid     [e-mail]       SunSite Administrator
Virtual pizza Delivery (tm)::faxed in 30 cycles or less or you get it
========================================FREE!!!=======================

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Crossposted-To: kl.test,alt.test
From: [e-mail] (Leif Kornstaedt)
Subject: Re: Anyone compile gwm-1.7 with Linux ?
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:18:02 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (M. Saggaf) writes:
|> If you want to compile gwm, you have to use lex and yacc. Flex and
|> bison won't do.
|>

Yes, perhaps, but where can one get a lex or a yacc? I thought they were
(c) AT&T.  I too had many problems with bison and would like to get an
implementation closer to the original.

--
==============================================================================
Leif Kornstaedt                     Excellent time to become a missing person.
         email: [e-mail]
==============================================================================

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From: [e-mail] (Kurt M. Alonso)
Subject: Expert advice needed
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:31:53 GMT


I am trying to write a device driver for a parallel port
soundcard (if the term applies to this type of device :-)).
Being this the first time that I give such a task a try, any
advice would be welcome.

Basically, what the thing has to do is to output bytes to the
parallel port at a fixed rate, starting from 8000 samples per
second and up. There is no protocol to observe or anything else so,
at least conceptually, the driver should be very easy to write.
However, the high output rates (less than 1 byte every 125 usecs)
implies that I can not use the kernel timer stuff. So the question
remains, how can I control the output rate (without eating up too
much CPU time)?


Kurt.

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From: [e-mail] (Lennart Benschop)
Subject: Re: need help with permissions
Date: 6 Nov 92 08:41:09 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Vern Nichols) writes:
|Last night I compiled the l3 kernel and it went very well, then I played
|with the zafix.taz and zbfix.taz using sysinstall -install and now
|when I log in as anybody other than root I get
|
|   shell-init: Permission denied

Did you check the permissions of the root directory itself? I had the same
problems after such a fix. The root directory was no longer world-readable.
Try:

chmod 755 /


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From: [e-mail] (Jerry van Waardenberg)
Subject: Problems with SLS root disk. HELP!
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:22:59 GMT

Hi,

I've ftp-ed the SLS install version of Linux from nic.funet.fi and copied it onto
DOS formatted floppies. At home I have rawritten files a1 and a2 to formatted
floppies. Floppy `A1` boots without problems. It asks for the display type and
after that it displays the following message:

  "Insert root disk and press <Enter>"

I then insert disk 'A2' (that is, the rawritten A2 file). The computer reads
something from floppy and then goes brain-dead.

Am I doing something wrong or doesn't it work on my computer? I have a 40 Mhz 386
(AMD) with 64 kB cache and 4 MB RAM. My harddisk is a Seagate ST1239A with IDE
interface. Trident VGA card (T8900). AMI BIOS (05/05/91). PC-Chips M321(?)
mainboard.

I've tried to disable turbo, cache and shadow, but it still didn't work.

What can be the problem?


Jerry

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Jerry van Waardenberg                                ______ ____  _____   _____
Tele Informatics and Open Systems                      /     /   /    /  /_
Department of Computer Science                        /     /   /    /     -_
University of Twente, Enschede, The Netherlands      /   __/_  /____/  _____/
E-mail: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Stefan Tex)
Subject: "mkswap" program wanted
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:32:33 GMT

Hello,

"mkswap" works not correctly on my machine. Therefore I want to recompile
it. Where can I find "mkswap.c". It's not on TSX-11 etc.

Thanks Stefan

---

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       |   /   ..''  | Fax:   [phone]             |
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