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- From: les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell)
- Subject: Re: VI??? GROSS!
- Message-ID: <BxM1z1.2K7@chinet.chi.il.us>
- Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
- References: <1992Oct28.162607.5613@sunvax.sun.ac.za> <1992Oct28.214551.21668@wixer.cactus.org> <LYT86XN@math.fu-berlin.de>
- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:04:11 GMT
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- In article <LYT86XN@math.fu-berlin.de> wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolff) writes:
- >Full screen: in some sense, vi is. But not screen-oriented. Changing
- >or inserting text and not seeing the result unless a finish key is
- >pressed
-
- No wonder you don't like it! This behaviour is optional and only
- desirable for slow connections and terminals that don't have an
- insert character command (i.e. the host has to redraw the whole line
- or screen). It may be that you aren't using the right TERM definition,
- or you need to :set redraw and :set noslowopen to force it.
-
- >... it is not even capable of performing one of the most elementary
- >text editing tasks: marking an arbitrary (!) block of text and by some
- >means copying or moving it to another place.
-
- Right - it just doesn't do arbitrary rectangles, but blocks of lines
- are easy as are characters within a line, and the two operations can
- handle the things you usually need to do to text, especially program
- text.
-
- >As a reaction to my moroseness about the apparent unavailability of a
- >simple text editor for Unix and the monstrous complexity and slowness
- >of the only widely spread alternative (emacs), I captured the source
- >of a freely available editor and turned it into a safe, fast, and easy
- >to use text editor. (I also announced it to this group some time ago.)
- >It is available by ftp from ftp.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.50]:
- >/pub/unix/editor/mined.tar.Z (108841 bytes)
- >/pub/pc/editor/mined_pc.zip (114522 bytes)
-
- Does this one do arbitrary rectangles?
-
- Les Mikesell
- les@chinet.chi.il.us
-